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According to this article: http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/12/10/s...2-2-might-be-released-later-in-december-2010/
We may see Froyo later in December. But if you are like me who have been waiting for the official release and not the leaked roms, and have been searching "when, when, when, when." It may just be here. But just like the past, Samsung has failed to deliver on the date when they said: October, November, December. Now it is late December.
I will be waiting.
Keep in mind this is for Canadian carriers.
also keep in mind samsung always says one day and it ends up being forever later!
Also keep in mind that the article used the word "MIGHT"... not "WILL".
well it's already officialy out for Bell (Vibrant)... so I'm guessing Rogers (Captivate) should make the move soon...
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Also keep in mind that the article used the word "MIGHT"... not "WILL".
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“If you are an owner of a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate (SGH-i896) or Samsung Galaxy S Fascinate 3G+ (SGH-T959), the upgrade software for these phones is currently being tested and we are working on a release for later in December 2010.”
Sounds like "will" to me. Only thing missing is when.
I would actually be impressed with Rogers if they got it done before AT&T did as AT&T has had the phone a few months longer. I'm on Rogers, with an AT&T phone, I'll take whichever release comes first.
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“If you are an owner of a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate (SGH-i896) or Samsung Galaxy S Fascinate 3G+ (SGH-T959), the upgrade software for these phones is currently being tested and we are working on a release for later in December 2010.”
Sounds like "will" to me. Only thing missing is when.
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my MIGHT vs WILL is for "later in December" as stated in the title of the article - Samsung Galaxy S Fascinate OS 2.2 might be released “later in December 2010″
Samsung always said "By the end of the year" for US Galaxy S phones. They never promised any month for US phones.
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Samsung always said "By the end of the year" for US Galaxy S phones. They never promised any month for US phones.
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This statement contradicts itself.
I think if we get Froyo by Dec 31 at 11:59pm we will be very lucky. As to Gingerbread that might come in 2012 if at all. I really dont understand the foot dragging by the US carriers. Unless ATT is locking out more functions
I'm thinking how we can all aim our fireworks for New Years at Samsung's headquarter. Or AT&T as well.
We will just have to wait and see, If history holds true, (like they did with WM builds) the Offical update from ATT will be nothing more then the leaked rom we have been using for months with a few things removed or added. Like the lock out for tethering without a tethering plan and such.
AT&T is like,
"hey look, Google just sent us froyo, should we roll out the update to our payed customers?"
"No. We have to add our bloatware first, that is the most important thing"
"Well they've been waiting awhile now..."
"So? We'll have it done in a couple months"
"The captivate will be obsolete by then..."
"Oh ya...oh well, this isn't Burger King, you don't "have it your way"
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I'll give odds that it won't be out til next year.
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I just want to get some sort of leaked 2.2.1 build so we can get some epic levels of custom roms that are stable...
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AT&T is like,
"hey look, Google just sent us froyo, should we roll out the update to our payed customers?"
"No. We have to add our bloatware first, that is the most important thing"
"Well they've been waiting awhile now..."
"So? We'll have it done in a couple months"
"The captivate will be obsolete by then..."
"Oh ya...oh well, this isn't Burger King, you don't "have it your way"
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HAHAHAHA oh wait.... Dun worry it gon be K. Canada's Cappys have it.
This is extremely old (and reposted news)...lol.
On another note, AT&T doesn't add the bloatware. Samsung, based on the handset requirements they get from AT&T add the bloatware.
emuneee said:
This is extremely old (and reposted news)...lol.
On another note, AT&T doesn't add the bloatware. Samsung, based on the handset requirements they get from AT&T add the bloatware.
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You are splitting hairs - AT&T is the driver behind the added bloatware. Samsung only does because AT&T requires it. If they had their way, they would have one ROM that worked on all carriers. They would still add Touchwiz to differentiate themselves from vanilla Android - and for average joe consumer this is a successful strategy. AT&T wouldn't add the bloatware (force Samsung to add it) if they didn't generate a decent amount of revenue on it.
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We may see Froyo later in December. But if you are like me who have been waiting for the official release and not the leaked roms, and have been searching "when, when, when, when." It may just be here. But just like the past, Samsung has failed to deliver on the date when they said: October, November, December. Now it is late December.
I will be waiting.
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Im not to excited anymore about froyo(Don't get me wrong i absolutely love the captivate). Samsung just needs to go ahead and roll out their new phone with Gingerbread. I am am waiting for that day... I just dont see anything else happening with the captivate besides froyo.
Well looks like theres a galaxy s 3 with full jelly bean.... no leaks or nothing!!! lol well its not out yet but its the galaxy s 3 mini!!! If you read the last paragraph it says all variants of s 3 will get jelly at the end of this quarter!!! LMAO yeah we shall see!!!!!
http://www.popherald.com/20121023_samsung_galaxy_s3_jelly_bean_update_keyboard_rumor-20246
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Well looks like theres a galaxy s 3 with full jelly bean.... no leaks or nothing!!! lol well its not out yet but its the galaxy s 3 mini!!! If you read the last paragraph it says all variants of s 3 will get jelly at the end of this quarter!!! LMAO yeah we shall see!!!!!
http://www.popherald.com/20121023_samsung_galaxy_s3_jelly_bean_update_keyboard_rumor-20246
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We gotta wait longer for VZW to give it to use officially. Don't get your hopes up.
Definitely thread worthy news.
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Definitely thread worthy news.
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lulz
1 star thread.
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Yeah Verizon sucks no telling when we will see an update
Even a VZW leak would be useful.
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JB won't be coming out officially any time soon.
I'd post a link but not allowed to since I am under 10 posts.
well it is a galaxy s 3 but its a mini.... it is coming with jelly bean on it...go figure a new phone for verizon with jelly and the original s 3 still without it!!
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well it is a galaxy s 3 but its a mini.... it is coming with jelly bean on it...go figure a new phone for verizon with jelly and the original s 3 still without it!!
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Guess you never owned a new RAZR. ICS took forever and JB is a pipe dream. The new RAZR M just got JB so this is nothing new. Their focus is on selling new to market units, not throwing money at upgrading the OS on already sold units.
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Guess you never owned a new RAZR. ICS took forever and JB is a pipe dream. The new RAZR M just got JB so this is nothing new. Their focus is on selling new to market units, not throwing money at upgrading the OS on already sold units.
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Funny thing is the S3 is still Verizon's best phone and well continue to be for now. Putting JB on it will just help sell more units as well as keep current customers happy.
Unfortunately Verizon does not care about keeping customers happy as long as they continue to hit their numbers every quarter.
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Funny thing is the S3 is still Verizon's best phone and well continue to be for now. Putting JB on it will just help sell more units as well as keep current customers happy.
Unfortunately Verizon does not care about keeping customers happy as long as they continue to hit their numbers every quarter.
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Thats because Verizon prefers to push their "Droid" branded phones IMO.
They will eventually have to release a JB update. I'm just hoping source doesn't take too long to drop after it.
Samsung Galaxy S3
I'm really really really hoping I'm wrong but based on Verizon's history, I'm not holding out hope that we will see JellyBean on our GS3s anytime soon.
Take for example the Galaxy Nexus, by all logic the Verizon version should have gotten JB update at the same time as the GSM version.
However from what I understand(I don't own one) the GSM Nexus got the JB update the last week of June (~27th), while Verizon Nexus owners didn't receive it till Sept 27th, almost 2 months later.
Even if you argue that it takes a little longer to create CDMA/LTE-JB compared to a GSM/LTE-JB that doesn't account for the 2 month time lag. Not when you have access to all of the source code and hardware roadmaps the Samsung does.
In fact, I don't think it has anything to do with Samsung at all. According to what I've recently read, Sprint GS3's are getting JB starting tomorrow.
That means Samsung has already created an acceptable Official CDMA/LTE-JB update that has already been vetted by Sprint that is set to start being pushed out tomorrow with absolutely no evidence of one even existing for Verizon(not even a whiff of a leak or anything)
I don't know why it takes so long, but I do know that it seems like Verizon never gets anything first, in fact they usually get everything last(not counting T-mobile)
At this point I've stopped checking the forum. I'm just hopping that I'll wake up one morning and see an update notification on my phone.
Rumor has it Sprint might be getting OTA JB update starting tomorrow. If that is true, way to go Sprint. That is how updates should roll out.
Guess we will see tomorrow.
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Funny thing is the S3 is still Verizon's best phone and well continue to be for now. Putting JB on it will just help sell more units as well as keep current customers happy.
Unfortunately Verizon does not care about keeping customers happy as long as they continue to hit their numbers every quarter.
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Putting JB on it won't sell more units. Most people don't know the difference and couldn't tell you the difference if they did a side by side comparison.
Google created this monster when it decided to make it open source with little control over how it's utilized. Apple devices cost more to the carrier and the carrier has little to no input on how the phone functions.
Apple made face time open for use over data where before it was wifi only. What did the carriers do, cry and get over it. Apple introduces imessage which circumvents regular texting lowering revenue from text messaging. What do the carriers do? Nada. Had it been android it wouldn't make it to our devices because they have no control over it. They release the OS, manufacturer builds it to the phones specs and then it's sent off to the carrier for bloating and restricting. Verizon is a service provider they have no business diddling around in an operating system.
Verizon as a customer centric business does have a great customer service. They're more responsive than most other carriers. However, they are in the business to make money and they want to maintain control of the very devices that could either make or break them. We phone enthusiasts are just a drop in the bucket to the millions of other customers that don't care what version OS their phone is on.
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RCITNet said:
Guess you never owned a new RAZR. ICS took forever and JB is a pipe dream. The new RAZR M just got JB so this is nothing new. Their focus is on selling new to market units, not throwing money at upgrading the OS on already sold units.
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This is what draws people to Apple though. They should take a lesson if they want to compete on the long-term.
I'll never, ever, buy another Motorola phone again. They come out with a new phone every other month, and drop support entirely for their existing phones.
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Rumor has it Sprint might be getting OTA JB update starting tomorrow. If that is true, way to go Sprint. That is how updates should roll out.
Guess we will see tomorrow.
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Sprint is pretty good about updates but sometimes they are to quick on the draw. The S2 had some serious issues with one of the updates that would cause it to hard brick.
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This is what draws people to Apple though. They should take a lesson if they want to compete on the long-term.
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Dude you are wrong.
Most people don't know about & don't care about JB. Only the fanatics(ie people on XDA, me included) care one way or the other what version of Android is running on their phone.
This is even more true for IOS users. If OEMs didn't push updates to phones OTA most phones would never get updated. There are plenty of people who have there phones set up pretty much exactly the way it was coming out of the box.
I'd argue that your average Android user is a little bit more savvy about customizing his experience but mostly because there are more options, not necessarily because they are more tech savvy. Overall that average user isn't significantly more advanced than an average IOS user.
You would be surprised how many people purchase phones based on either the salesman's advice or the advice of a friend.
All of the talk of specs, fragmentation, OS updates is purely for the phone geek crowd.
Probably 1% of people are going to make their decision based on update version.
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Rumor has it Sprint might be getting OTA JB update starting tomorrow. If that is true, way to go Sprint. That is how updates should roll out.
Guess we will see tomorrow.
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I would much rather be on Verizons network running ICS as opposed to Sprints with JellyBean...I need service more than timely updates. We will get a update, until then im perfectly content with what development is currently active on this device. we dont need jellybean source to get the ril perfected anyway. all we need is a dev like jt1134 that wrote the mtd filesystem for the fascinate and hacked the ril to near perfection...he also was the main reason cm7 ever made it to the fascinate. That device barely got a gingerbread ota and that didnt happen till way after cm7 was released. point is, support your devs folks! they are the ones that will keep this device up to date after the carriers drop it. I never log on to xda for news on ota updates...things are so much different now than it use to be here and there is alot less dense information in these forums. Now 1 in 3 threads is about ota or root...lol
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I would much rather be on Verizons network running ICS as opposed to Sprints with JellyBean...I need service more than timely updates. We will get a update, until then im perfectly content with what development is currently active on this device. we dont need jellybean source to get the ril perfected anyway. all we need is a dev like jt1134 that wrote the mtd filesystem for the fascinate and hacked the ril to near perfection...he also was the main reason cm7 ever made it to the fascinate. That device barely got a gingerbread ota and that didnt happen till way after cm7 was released. point is, support your devs folks! they are the ones that will keep this device up to date after the carriers drop it. I never log on to xda for news on ota updates...things are so much different now than it use to be here and there is alot less dense information in these forums. Now 1 in 3 threads is about ota or root...lol
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I never said I would rather be on Sprint. I left Sprint about 8 months ago after being with them for 15 years. I am just saying I am pretty surprised to see this update come out so quick for them. Would have guessed we would have seen it on AT&T or T-Mobile first. Whether you like Sprint or not is irrelevant, I do think it is kind of cool to see JB released already for them though. It shows that there head is in the right place.
To be honest, if Verizon's network was not leaps and bounds better then others I do not even think the company would exist right now. Choosing to lock bootloaders, blocking apps like Google Wallet, worst data plans, the slowest updates ever and basically not caring about what the customer wants does not sound to enticing. Once the other providers catch up they better start to change their tude or they will begin to see a huge decline in numbers.
I do think Sprint really f'd up and now they are trying to be the good guy. While their network was going to the ****ter instead of giving their customers reasons to stay they continued to remove features at a rapid pace. They removed the Premier program, removed discounts from any line but the first, raised their ETF fee, raised their insurance prices and I am sure I am missing a few other things. Maybe now they are realizing with a network as ****ty as theirs they need reasons to actually keep customers and not scare them away.
Hi All,
hope you all just fine, and rocking with your tabs.
I just want to share the news that samsung starts rolling Android 4.2.2 update for Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 (GT-P3100), with features from GS4 and so on.
I think we have the chance to get updated too, we much premuim software.
as for P6810, samsung might passed 4.1.2 to update you with 4.2.2 .. I know that all of you are pissed, but i think it's possible for you too.
Have a great time with your Tabs all :good:
Source:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/02...pdates-galaxy-tab-2-7-0/#.Ufucq4VVI-M.twitter
I love how they are pushing all these updates for the 2nd biggest turd of a tablet they make...... Yet they took a shovel and covered up the 6810 with a pile of dirt. Ya know, while they are at it..........Why dont they revive the Samsung Moment slider phone and shove JellyBean on it too. Hooray for that!!!!
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I love how they are pushing all these updates for the 2nd biggest turd of a tablet they make...... Yet they took a shovel and covered up the 6810 with a pile of dirt. Ya know, while they are at it..........Why dont they revive the Samsung Moment slider phone and shove JellyBean on it too. Hooray for that!!!!
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We have not even got Jelly Bean for the 6810 yet. Samsung are hopeless.
I dont think that we will see further updates for the Galaxy Tab 7.7.
I assume that neither JB for 6810 nor some other JB Versions for 6800 wil be released by Samsung.
Really poor...
thommygay24 said:
I dont think that we will see further updates for the Galaxy Tab 7.7.
I assume that neither JB for 6810 nor some other JB Versions for 6800 wil be released by Samsung.
Really poor...
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The 4.1.2 they released for the 6800 caused a number of issues, and seemed rushed out the door.
With the recent upgrades to 4.2.2 (Tab 2 7) , and the fact that Samsung already mentioned that dual-core based system will end with 4.2.2, I'm hoping that they have decided to skip 4.1.2, and provide one last update to 4.2.2
Having said that, I don't see myself buying other Samsung products. For what seems forever, service provider & manufacturer's blame each other, for the slow pace of updates.
This and other issues (Apple injunctions, etc.) are not valid arguments, where Wi-Fi only devices are concerned. If you sell a premium product for a premium price, then you should support it.
FWIW I've been running the 4.1.2 ROM for some time now and it's been fine. Yes, the 7.7 is EOL. But then even as is I still use it daily. Fine tab. Does everything I require for entertainment. Actually, while I'm sure I'll go through many tabs in the future I somehow doubt I'll part with the "little tab that scared Apple". lol
Sure, 4.2.2 or even 4.3 would be cool but really. Some slick extras, yes, but anything "killer"? IMHO, not really. If a device does what I need it to in a manner that I find satisfying,it's a "win". Do I agree with Samsung "flooding" the market with ten and one half dozen versions of the Note, Tab or whatever? Not really but then I ain't in charge there. Let form follow function. Get a device that does what you want and when/if upgrades come down the pike...all the better!
Just my two cents.
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FWIW I've been running the 4.1.2 ROM for some time now and it's been fine. Yes, the 7.7 is EOL. But then even as is I still use it daily. Fine tab. Does everything I require for entertainment. Actually, while I'm sure I'll go through many tabs in the future I somehow doubt I'll part with the "little tab that scared Apple". lol
Sure, 4.2.2 or even 4.3 would be cool but really. Some slick extras, yes, but anything "killer"? IMHO, not really. If a device does what I need it to in a manner that I find satisfying,it's a "win". Do I agree with Samsung "flooding" the market with ten and one half dozen versions of the Note, Tab or whatever? Not really but then I ain't in charge there. Let form follow function. Get a device that does what you want and when/if upgrades come down the pike...all the better!
Just my two cents.
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Yeah, as someone who just took the plunge to do a self-update to 4.1.2 I can say that the Tablet is still absolutely great to use, even if not the latest Android version.
However, as it was sold as such a premium product, Samsung SHOULD have kept it up to date with Android releases. The JB 4.1.2 is pretty much unofficial and is an 'at your own risk' option for most users (and some have experienced real problems).
Whilst I love the hardware dearly, seeing Samsung abandon it like they did has given me pause about buying more Samsung Android devices. I recently upgraded my phone and chose a Sony product instead of the various Samsung offerings (e.g. S4 mini in my case) specifically because I just do not trust Samsung to issue timely updates or even keep supporting their devices properly. Also it doesn't help that Touchwiz is not a great UI customisation - the Sony effort is much better - and frankly I'd have went for something pure Android like a Moto G if it had supported MicroSD. I'm about to buy a large 10" tablet and I won't even consider Samsung, it'll be between the Sony Tablet Z and probably the new Nexus 10 if Google ever release it....
Samsung really owe it to the 7.7 userbase to do one last update to at least 4.3, preferably 4.4 KitKat. Remember that the Tab should really have shipped with ICS but it wasn't ready so Honeycomb 3.2 was just a placeholder, ergo I wouldn't even count the long-delayed 4.0.4 release as an update. Given that 4.1.2 was only for a few Aisan markets, for most global users the 7.7 has never received a true update. Shame on you Samsung!!!!
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Yeah, as someone who just took the plunge to do a self-update to 4.1.2 I can say that the Tablet is still absolutely great to use, even if not the latest Android version.
However, as it was sold as such a premium product, Samsung SHOULD have kept it up to date with Android releases. The JB 4.1.2 is pretty much unofficial and is an 'at your own risk' option for most users (and some have experienced real problems).
Whilst I love the hardware dearly, seeing Samsung abandon it like they did has given me pause about buying more Samsung Android devices. I recently upgraded my phone and chose a Sony product instead of the various Samsung offerings (e.g. S4 mini in my case) specifically because I just do not trust Samsung to issue timely updates or even keep supporting their devices properly. Also it doesn't help that Touchwiz is not a great UI customisation - the Sony effort is much better - and frankly I'd have went for something pure Android like a Moto G if it had supported MicroSD. I'm about to buy a large 10" tablet and I won't even consider Samsung, it'll be between the Sony Tablet Z and probably the new Nexus 10 if Google ever release it....
Samsung really owe it to the 7.7 userbase to do one last update to at least 4.3, preferably 4.4 KitKat. Remember that the Tab should really have shipped with ICS but it wasn't ready so Honeycomb 3.2 was just a placeholder, ergo I wouldn't even count the long-delayed 4.0.4 release as an update. Given that 4.1.2 was only for a few Aisan markets, for most global users the 7.7 has never received a true update. Shame on you Samsung!!!!
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Absolutely agree! Have you tried Danielhk's 4.4 ROM? Installed in a few days ago and it's pretty awesome!
As far as updates if I recall correctly the 7.7 was THE tab that scared hell outta Apple moving them to ramp up suing Samsung. I can imagine Samsung pulling back on updates for that reason possibly? Still screws over the people who shelled out $500-$600+ for the tablet though.
But then now with the 4.4 port from Daneilhk.....the GTab 7.7 just shines!!!
Its interesting comments which I think many agree with. To get ourselves to 4.1.2 most people around the world
with a few exceptions of the Asian counties, had to do a manual flash. Our device is still very capable as compared
to older and current devices. Yet we need some movement with the software.
My recent email to Samsung didn't offer much help. They said that no planned software update is known for this tab
and that my tab should still be using Android 3.2.
I didn't bother to make further contact, in fact my tab is supposed to be on Official ICS. As far as I've been
able to gather, 4.2.2 seems the most stable as reported below. I'm hoping to replacement my current 4.1.2
with this soon. Most of all I want stability, without much missing functions or problems and of course
having a p6800 device, we need sim access, calls and mobile data.
4.3 / 4.4 just seems to far away for the near future. Maybe we'll have a final kit kat for christmas
next year before everyone retires from the 7.7 development. We can hope (but our prayers won't change samsung's minds)
[ROM][4.2.2r1]p6800/p6810/i815](5OCT2013)PAC-Man ROM 4.2 Milestone1 release
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2330651
bassem.mohsen said:
Hi All,
hope you all just fine, and rocking with your tabs.
I just want to share the news that samsung starts rolling Android 4.2.2 update for Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 (GT-P3100), with features from GS4 and so on.
I think we have the chance to get updated too, we much premuim software.
as for P6810, samsung might passed 4.1.2 to update you with 4.2.2 .. I know that all of you are pissed, but i think it's possible for you too.
Have a great time with your Tabs all :good:
Source:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/02...pdates-galaxy-tab-2-7-0/#.Ufucq4VVI-M.twitter
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An advice: stay calm and wait for January 2014. Let's start with complaints
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An advice: stay calm and wait for January 2014. Let's start with complaints
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i saw a list that samsung wanted to develope 4.2.2 fot them and there were no 7.7 between them,
i dont know why samsung daesnt like 7.7,
its has more power that tab 2 and even tab 3,
its lighter,thiner,and powerfull, and even the samsung alled it amazing,a diffrent magic,
every body that has this tab loves it and it cant sell it,so do i,
i wanted to sell my tab and buy a tab 3 but when i saw that, it was so thick like a book, and with a 1.2 Ghz dual core cpu it was like a 800mhz singel, i hated,
when i saw (( UpInTheAir )) developed a rom with multi window with 4 app on the screen at the same time and floating mod,
i changed my mind, i wont ever sell my tab,
it actuall is a part of me, my life,
i really cant live without it,
but i cant understand samsung's problem with tab 7.7,
why?????
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rezadentevil said:
i saw a list that samsung wanted to develope 4.2.2 fot them and there were no 7.7 between them,
i dont know why samsung daesnt like 7.7,
its has more power that tab 2 and even tab 3,
its lighter,thiner,and powerfull, and even the samsung alled it amazing,a diffrent magic,
every body that has this tab loves it and it cant sell it,so do i,
i wanted to sell my tab and buy a tab 3 but when i saw that, it was so thick like a book, and with a 1.2 Ghz dual core cpu it was like a 800mhz singel, i hated,
when i saw (( UpInTheAir )) developed a rom with multi window with 4 app on the screen at the same time and floating mod,
i changed my mind, i wont ever sell my tab,
it actuall is a part of me, my life,
i really cant live without it,
but i cant understand samsung's problem with tab 7.7,
why?????
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no problem, with the litigation with Apple, Samsung has discontinued development.
Then when it was decided that Samsung could continue to sell the device, it was too late.
My opinion is that it promises to take legal action. In January I will start. I'm not used to being fooled in this way.
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no problem, with the litigation with Apple, Samsung has discontinued development.
Then when it was decided that Samsung could continue to sell the device, it was too late.
My opinion is that it promises to take legal action. In January I will start. I'm not used to being fooled in this way.
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why Jan. 2014 specifically?
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i will let myself be suprised
There are lots of regions which Samsung have ignored. We can wait but if not new Official Jellybean for 7.7 Users by August 2014 then I think its safe to assume samsung will leave its customers out in the cold. Do we really want wait 8 months for Jellybean though?
I suspect that if Daniel's 4.4 becomes fully functional and stable we might just say you know what, Samsung... don't bother. Still if you can live with custom roms 4.2.2 is stable but you certainly need an additional memory mod like Pure performances to help speed it up and avoid lag, its where I'm @, Might be keeping still for now.
xaadilhx said:
There are lots of regions which Samsung have ignored. We can wait but if not new Official Jellybean for 7.7 Users by August 2014 then I think its safe to assume samsung will leave its customers out in the cold. Do we really want wait 8 months for Jellybean though?
I suspect that if Daniel's 4.4 becomes fully functional and stable we might just say you know what, Samsung... don't bother. Still if you can live with custom roms 4.2.2 is stable but you certainly need an additional memory mod like Pure performances to help speed it up and avoid lag, its where I'm @, Might be keeping still for now.
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Not just regions, but whole device models !.......... P6810 & Verizon models left out in the cold
I'm over it. Samsung's track record indicates there won't be any 4.2.2 update for any model.
For those still procrastinating (don't mean you @xaadilhx, just move on and appreciate what users in our forum make with what we've got to work with.
XiliX said:
no problem, with the litigation with Apple, Samsung has discontinued development.
Then when it was decided that Samsung could continue to sell the device, it was too late.
My opinion is that it promises to take legal action. In January I will start. I'm not used to being fooled in this way.
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Don't you find it funny that after 2 years from the 7.7 release. Apple came out with the mini which is a blatant ripoff of the 7.7.
And now they have the iPad Air which is just a bigger version of the 7.7. COPYCAT!
Exactly my feeling. Samsung should be brave and release a 7.7 2. But in the android update market Samsung sucks big time.
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Arobase40 said:
Your 7.7.2 already exists and is called Galaxy Tab pro 8.4 and the cost is about $400 or 386 € for the Wifi only model.
Actual size is slightly bigger than 7.7, so too big for me, so I'll wait after the Huawei Mediapad X1 which offers LTE for the same price as a 7" device.
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No AMOLED on the Tab Pro makes it an imperfect replacement. If you want a LCD screen, you can think about the Tab Pro or the Xperia Z Ultra (called a phablet, but at 6.4 inches it's a very good small tablet)
Samsung Android V4.2.2 for GT-P6810?
Yep, and we are still waiting.
Any news on the V4.2.2 front ?
bassem.mohsen said:
Hi All,
hope you all just fine, and rocking with your tabs.
I just want to share the news that samsung starts rolling Android 4.2.2 update for Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 (GT-P3100), with features from GS4 and so on.
I think we have the chance to get updated too, we much premuim software.
as for P6810, samsung might passed 4.1.2 to update you with 4.2.2 .. I know that all of you are pissed, but i think it's possible for you too.
Have a great time with your Tabs all :good:
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http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/02...pdates-galaxy-tab-2-7-0/#.Ufucq4VVI-M.twitter
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Apparently Samsung's getting ready to roll-out the announced N3 Knox improvements (consumer use vs. corporate device management) to the SGS4. One of the new Knox features allows device owners to prevent the wiping of the device in the event it's stolen. That's pretty cool. But apparently there are some pretty big security and permission changes that are being put in place to make it work based on a 9/4 SGS4 update Samsung pushed out. These are the changes from Chainfire the creator of SuperSU and Triangle Away.
SELinux enabled and set to "restrictive"
A more secure bootloader
A new warranty status indicator inside the bootloader
Inability to downgrade once the new bootloader's installed
What does it mean? The N3's locked down pretty tight and not at a carrier's direction. It's too early to say what the long-term impact will be but the devs are working on getting the flexibility that's gone back.
Follow this thread for more info...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432100
Here's Chainfire's post on G+...
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Chainfire/posts/5ggu7naWtaW#+Chainfire/posts/5ggu7naWtaW
Yeah,Knox security and locked bootloader is probably going to be a major headache.
Hope there is a permanent solution for this, time will tell
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I hope someone is going to figure it out. Im stuck with Verizon so if i buy it i don't have the option to buy it unlocked. But I'm not going to knowingly buy a locked device and then whine and complain about not being able to unlock it. Not being unlocked could be a deal breaker for me.
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If thats true, then its a big blow to the dev community
i already preordered mine out of contract. This is really something that concerns me. Coming from the note 1 I really only care about the screen size/ quality/ camera/ and snapdragon 800. i got 15 days to return and this might be the reason why. I find flashing to be fun.(phones and self=) 21 days of pondering after being pretty dam sure on next phone.
Is Knox included by default for all N3? or is it just for business customers?
CLARiiON said:
Is Knox included by default for all N3? or is it just for business customers?
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I don't know for sure if Samsung has said one way or the other, but from a production standpoint, it would be easier to include it on all phones.
My main concern is that with a locked bootloader, adding a custom recovery is much more difficult. I prefer being able to create my own phone backups and use them as-needed. Android's stock recovery hasn't changed since at least the OG Droid, and therefore lacks this ability. Otherwise, my personal reasons for wanting to flash have significantly reduced since my first Android device.
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Not being unlocked could be a deal breaker for me. Sent from my XT926 using Tapatalk 4
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daraj said:
If thats true, then its a big blow to the dev community
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joverclock said:
This is really something that concerns me. I find flashing to be fun.
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This is indeed a concern and could be a deal breaker for me too. As joverclock said, I too really enjoy tinkering with my phone and have missed the active development activities with my EVO 4G LTE that I enjoyed with the original EVO.
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DCLocal said:
This is indeed a concern and could be a deal breaker for me too. As joverclock said, I too really enjoy tinkering with my phone and have missed the active development activities with my EVO 4G LTE that I enjoyed with the original EVO.
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Them ( CFO Shamwow VZW) selling phones at retail price locked is a joke. Full price I want to do whatever with the phone. vzw s4 seems pretty well locked on the MDK (latest) revision without the possib to odin downgrade.
Any rumors of a dev version ( unlocked bootloader ) in similar way with this?
Not unlocked no note 3 for me. I have preordered i605-note 2 and Adam Outler unlocked it in 7 days ( including ordering the phone). maybe he can help again.
Many thanks
Abe
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It's on my att S4
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CLARiiON said:
Is Knox included by default for all N3? or is it just for business customers?
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Samsung KNOX & Find My Mobile
The new GALAXY Note 3 comes with enhanced privacy and security protection provided by Samsung KNOX. Users can activate Samsung KNOX with ease which allows them to run and store security-sensitive applications and data inside a protected execution environment called “container.” The security inside the container is strengthened by system-level protection of Samsung KNOX against malware and phishing attacks as well as hacking attempts on physical devices when devices are stolen or lost. For instance, important personal pictures or video can be stored in the container with no worries for data leakage due to hacking. In addition, users may choose to store enterprise applications and data such as corporate email, contacts and calendar and allow the IT department to manage the container through EAS (Exchange ActiveSync Server). These features make the GALAXY Note 3 an ideal device for BYOD (Bring-Your-Own-Device to work)
Furthermore, the GALAXY Note 3 is equipped with an improved Find My Mobile feature that allows users to disable the phone when it is stolen or lost. With the enhanced user authentication, the technology prevents stolen mobile phones from being reset to factory settings, and allows users to remotely track or erase the data from their lost or stolen mobile phones.
A user doesn't have to activate it but the hooks it needs and control over the bootloader it requires will be on every N3. The same hooks and bootloader changes were just pushed out to the SGS4 which is what has their forum up in arms. I'm guessing Knox was inert on consumer SGS4's originally because it required corporate device management s/w to enable it. Now that it's being aimed at consumers it's going to be on all Samsung's devices that can support it. The devs on the SGS4 forum are still trying to understand what the changes mean and how to work around them. It broke all Chainfire's apps (One Click Root, SuperSU, Triangle Away, Mobile Odin) so he's especially keen at addressing Knox's new "features."
Samsung had a big presence here at the Atlanta Airwatch Connect conference. They mention the new Knox capable hardware "burns in on hardware" when it is rooted and cannot be undone.
I'm not enough of a techie to ask them more specifics about how they accomplish this. But thought I would pass it on here so someone smarter than I can valid this claim.
I might just cancel my preorder if this is true.
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jetjock said:
Samsung had a big presence here at the Atlanta Airwatch Connect conference. They mention the new Knox capable hardware "burns in on hardware" when it is rooted and cannot be undone.
I'm not enough of a techie to ask them more specifics about how they accomplish this. But thought I would pass it on here so someone smarter than I can valid this claim.
I might just cancel my preorder if this is true.
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Yes if this is true I will be getting back form 739 from best buy and giving it to someone else.
We have been lucky with the s4 here in canada..non locked bootloader. The last at&t ota locked theirs down and they have root but thats all.now it seems the international devices are being locked down also.
I hope the CAN version of the N3 continues the no lock trend but I kind of doubt it. I planned or pre ordering but I think ill wait and see first.
I refuse to spend $800 on a device and not be able to do what I want with it.
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Samsung is gonna be hurting if they shy away the regular Joe consumer to try and get enterprise customers. I would think consumers outnumber enterprise people but even if not true, Samsung won't get all thebeneterprise with apple, Microsoft and blackberry in the running also. I am hoping for an unlocked USA LTE band compatible with unlocked bootloader. My next phone needs to hold me until 64bit chips makebwaves on android and I think the note3 can do that in the meantime. The note2 probably could but I am smartphone techno nerd and the note 2 will be ancient history to me if I owned it more than 15 months.
Just thought I'd let you all know:
I have the new MH8 firmware on my S4 that has the new locked bootloader and Knox security.
I had no trouble rooting it, installing CWM Recovery and flashing CM10.2. All works fine.
The downside is that once you're on this new bootloader you cannot downgrade stock firmware using Odin.
That's the only limitation I've come across.
I can still flash any custom ROM, any custom Kernel and any custom recovery
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Samsung is gonna be hurting if they shy away the regular Joe consumer to try and get enterprise customers. I would think consumers outnumber enterprise people but even if not true, Samsung won't get all thebeneterprise with apple, Microsoft and blackberry in the running also. I am hoping for an unlocked USA LTE band compatible with unlocked bootloader. My next phone needs to hold me until 64bit chips makebwaves on android and I think the note3 can do that in the meantime. The note2 probably could but I am smartphone techno nerd and the note 2 will be ancient history to me if I owned it more than 15 months.
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XDA looks at Knox's impact to customization and shivers. The masses look at it as a safe and unique place to store their porn and a way of increasing the chances of getting their lost/stolen device back. We're 5% of the market and the masses are 95%. Samsung losing 5% of their sales is about equal to all the devices HTC will sell in 2013. We're opinion leaders and early adopters but we're not indispensable.
P.S. - I'm not agreeing with what Samsung's doing so please don't shoot the messenger.
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XDA looks at Knox's impact to customization and shivers. The masses look at it as a safe and unique place to store their porn and a way of increasing the chances of getting their lost/stolen device back. We're 5% of the market and the masses are 95%. Samsung losing 5% of their sales is about equal to all the devices HTC will sell in 2013. We're opinion leaders and early adopters but we're not indispensable.
P.S. - I'm not agreeing with what Samsung's doing so please don't shoot the messenger.
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I'm sure the 5% are capable to influence another 30% of the masses not to buy Note 3
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when will we know its locked? how long does it take for hackers/devs to find out that it can be unlocked..?
still not sure if i should pull the trigger for the pre order.. im assuming its a 50/50 chance because if i get it now and it can be unlocked and later they update it and it ships with that new update ill be bum and locked out on the fun
i need my root.. dont like ads/crapware
markysd said:
when will we know its locked? how long does it take for hackers/devs to find out that it can be unlocked..?
still not sure if i should pull the trigger for the pre order.. im assuming its a 50/50 chance because if i get it now and it can be unlocked and later they update it and it ships with that new update ill be bum and locked out on the fun
i need my root.. dont like ads/crapware
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I just realized how much I use Root lol, def gonna need that at a min if I want to switch
Samsung is apparently getting closer and closer to releasing its first software versions based on Android 4.4.3.
The first devices to get an Android 4.4.3 build from the Korean company are going to be the Galaxy S5 and the Galaxy Note 3, it seems. That would make perfect sense, given how these are right now Samsung's flagships in their respective market segments.
According to a purportedly leaked internal document, the Android 4.4.3 updates for both Snapdragon and Exynos versions of the Galaxy S5 have been finalized and are due out before the end of this month.
In the case of the Galaxy Note 3, development has reached the final testing stage. If all goes well, the new bits should be ready to roll out to users sometime in July.
Previous such leaked documents surfaced last month, when the Galaxy S5's update was still being worked on. Now that it's finalized, the guessing game begins - which will be the first territory (or carrier) to get Android 4.4.3?
One thing to note is that the document pictured above has some odd font differences in it, which may indicate a bad Photoshop job. So do take this with a pinch of salt.
Further complicating things is the fact that Google has just released Android 4.4.4 to its Nexus devices, a version that seems to contain a pretty important security fix.
That leads us to wonder: will Samsung first release 4.4.3 for its devices only to then start working on what is now the latest version of the OS? Or will it choose to skip 4.4.3 altogether and simply come out with a 4.4.4 build, even if that means delaying the release for a short while?
Since the newest iteration of Android isn't bringing new things to the table, just fixing bugs, the latter hypothesis isn't completely implausible.
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good news !
Wonder if this update will contain the new TW theme (S5). It looks very nice on a note 3, running a S5 port now on my device
I bet it will be on note 4 only
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Samsung should migrate the Note 3 to the S5 Touchwiz and not keep it where it is. They have no reason not to and hopefully they do it by September/October.
LOL! i remember seeing that picture like a month ago even before 4.4.3 was officially released with S4 on top and S5 at the bottom, that's obvious photoshop job to the image to add Note 3 there
I'd rather they didn't. The Android 5.0 announcement is today, and if we get 4.4.3 now, it means we probably won't get 5.0 (the 2 version-number changing updates maximum policy in the contracts with Google.)
zat0x said:
Wonder if this update will contain the new TW theme (S5). It looks very nice on a note 3, running a S5 port now on my device
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Where did you get that???
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dodgebizkit said:
Where did you get that???
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Look here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771454
ShadowLea said:
I'd rather they didn't. The Android 5.0 announcement is today, and if we get 4.4.3 now, it means we probably won't get 5.0 (the 2 version-number changing updates maximum policy in the contracts with Google.)
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Yip L was announced today, and factory images for N5 and N7 are available tomorrow..
ShadowLea said:
I'd rather they didn't. The Android 5.0 announcement is today, and if we get 4.4.3 now, it means we probably won't get 5.0 (the 2 version-number changing updates maximum policy in the contracts with Google.)
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Someone who works for t mobile (Raziel) has said that the note 3 will receive 4.4.3 and android L update. He's been right before and I'm betting he'll be right again when the time comes.
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d12unk13astard said:
Someone who works for t mobile (Raziel) has said that the note 3 will receive 4.4.3 and android L update. He's been right before and I'm betting he'll be right again when the time comes.
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Oh I know. I'm just saying I'd rather they skipped the middle update, because there's a limit as to how many larger updates a device will get.
And he's not the only one working for T-Mobile (Except I'm not with T-Mobile USA, but rather T-Mobile NL & it's mother company, Deutsche Telekom, as their Samsung expert.)
The point is that the US Branded devices have an entirely different schedule, since their devices also have their own device codes. The N900T has nothing to do with the N9005. And as such, the S3 in the US will get KitKAt, where the EU S3 will not, even the identical-to-the-NA-version 4G variant.