Has samsung released when they are planning on releasing the ICS update for the wifi version? Or is it possible to make an ICS rom for p6210 from what they have released?
Best to wait for an official release. From what I've seen, there is a lot of bugginess in the current CM9 builds. It can't be too far off now.
...I hope
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There has not been any specific date announced for Samsung's US 6210 release. Apparently at least one UK user has it already.
CM9 is really close. WIFI should be working now.
Samsung US is the slowest of the slow
It always takes Samsung US the longest to release updates. They are horrifically slow so just hang in there. A concept Samsung (overall) has never grasped is that these user forums do not differentiate between the the different country models when they create a forum for a device (which the forums shouldn't have to do anyway). The problem that Samsung seems oblivious to is that if you perform upgrades to the devices for Asian countries but neglect to do so for Europe or the United States in any type of timely matter, it just creates very ill will on the parts of the world that they seem to be ignoring. It becomes a case of the "have's" and the "have not's". Unfortunately the upper management at Samsung are "have not's" when it comes to brains and I doubt they will ever figure out that they give the appearance of screwing over some of their customers. This is not to say that the P6210 will not get its upgrade. I am sure it will. You just have to wait for the incredibly slow and somewhat brain dead people at Samsung. Isn't their company motto...."We love your money, we could just care-a-less about you?
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There has not been any specific date announced for Samsung's US 6210 release. Apparently at least one UK user has it already.
CM9 is really close. WIFI should be working now.
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Where did you read that a UK user has it already? I'm in the UK and my P6210 is decidedly un-ICSed!
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Where did you read that a UK user has it already? I'm in the UK and my P6210 is decidedly un-ICSed!
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See this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28725729
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i connected P6210 in both UK and Austria today and update wasnt available in either location
lol at this POS branded tablet. i would buy nexus 7 if it was availble in this region (it isnt)
ccpotato said:
i connected P6210 in both UK and Austria today and update wasnt available in either location
lol at this POS branded tablet. i would buy nexus 7 if it was availble in this region (it isnt)
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Really? Its not even that big a deal. If you are going to lose your cool, just Odin the stock firmware that has been posted. The stock ICS experience is awesome.
yep... used Odin to put on posted firmware and this thing is NICE now
finally it matches the experience of my phone (galaxy nexus on 4.x)
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Has anyone looked at what it would take to port CM9 to this tablet yet?
I would love "ICS" on my 7.0 plus!! Please!!
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As I understand Samsung is releasing ICS during the fist quarter, no release date yet.
I don't think developers are interesting in working on it until it's released. I'm running ICS on my phone, Samsung hasn't released the drivers so the developers have put in a lot of hours and hard work, it's not perfect but getting close. The battery life was terrible at first due to not having the proper drivers but over time it has gotten pretty decent. A working GPS is also an issue, again due to lack of proper drivers. I think the main difference ICS will never be released for my phone unlike our tabs.
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As I understand Samsung is releasing ICS during the fist quarter, no release date yet.
I don't think developers are interesting in working on it until it's released. I'm running ICS on my phone, Samsung hasn't released the drivers so the developers have put in a lot of hours and hard work, it's not perfect but getting close. The battery life was terrible at first due to not having the proper drivers but over time it has gotten pretty decent. A working GPS is also an issue, again due to lack of proper drivers. I think the main difference ICS will never be released for my phone unlike our tabs.
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I agree, it would be a waste of time for the devs. Patience....
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Agree. Am running the port of CM9 on my NC and while it's sweet and interesting...waiting for the official release is the way to go as its so close.
I seriously doubt samsung will release ICS for our g-tab Q1. If we're lucky it will be Q2, but i'm thinking worst case scenario Q3.
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I seriously doubt samsung will release ICS for our g-tab Q1. If we're lucky it will be Q2, but i'm thinking worst case scenario Q3.
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I believe they have stated q1 numerous times I'm new to samsungs so I'm not completely sure if they are true on their release dates. It seems to me it would be a waste of time for the devs to even bother until ics is officially released
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I believe they have stated q1 numerous times I'm new to samsungs so I'm not completely sure if they are true on their release dates. It seems to me it would be a waste of time for the devs to even bother until ics is officially released
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Samsung has a laughably bad reputation as far as updates go, if they aren't the worse then they are close to it. I would like to see ICS hit Q1 but I will expect it sometime this summer or fall.
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Samsung has a laughably bad reputation as far as updates go, if they aren't the worse then they are close to it. I would like to see ICS hit Q1 but I will expect it sometime this summer or fall.
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Not to derail but you can argue that all android manufacturers are slow with updates, Samsung gets a lot of attention because they sell a lot of phones.
With that said, Samsung is painfully slow and I think this device stands little to no chance of a Q1 update, just my opinion.
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Whenever a carrier, (e.g. AT&T, TMobile, Sprint, Verizon) gets involved, the updates slow to a crawl. In all fairness to Samsung, they've been pretty good with updates to the 10.1. I've seen an update to 3.1 and 3.2 since I bought mine on launch day, and they were fairly quick. Mind you, I'm taking into account the fact that Samsung had to put touchwiz on Honeycomb and fix some of the issues that were left behind when Honeycomb launched. We've also seen Samsung move rather quickly to resolve issues on the 7Plus, including an update that dropped last night that is supposed to fix the SOD issue. All in all, Samsung has been good about updating its wifi-only devices, so while I'm confident that the phones will miss that Q1 deadline, I have high hopes for the tablets.
I hear you but talk to original galaxy tab wifi owners who are still rocking GB.
Hmmm, there was an ota last night?
On topic, I would cm9 on this device. Fingers crossed.
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The reason I asked this is not so much that I can't wait for ICS. It is more derived from wanting an ASOP-ish experience. I am also thinking about the future. OEMs are usually good for the first year of supporting the devices they make. Then they start to fail claiming that the device is not "compatable" with the latest version. I have an old HTC hero that my son uses as an MP3 player. It is running CM7 and the OEM claimed that it would not support gingerbread, heck they even have an ICS port for it.
CM seems to have a good record of keeping supported devices working. I am sure that once ICS is released for the 7 plus there will be custom builds available.
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I hear you but talk to original galaxy tab wifi owners who are still rocking GB.
Hmmm, there was an ota last night?
On topic, I would cm9 on this device. Fingers crossed.
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I am an original galaxy tab owner still rocking GB. (I've flashed ICS, but I decided to rollback until the camera issues have been solved and more of my Gameloft purchases are updated for ICS compatibility,) I'm not overly upset that Samsung didn't update it to ICS, but that may just be a personal thing.
Samsung started rolling out an OTA last night that will be pushed to all devices over the next two weeks.
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I am an original galaxy tab owner still rocking GB. (I've flashed ICS, but I decided to rollback until the camera issues have been solved and more of my Gameloft purchases are updated for ICS compatibility,) I'm not overly upset that Samsung didn't update it to ICS, but that may just be a personal thing.
Samsung started rolling out an OTA last night that will be pushed to all devices over the next two weeks.
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Official GB? Last I checked the original galaxy tab 7 owners were still rocking Froyo, officially.
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Official GB? Last I checked the original galaxy tab 7 owners were still rocking Froyo, officially.
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Official GB. If I were still on Froyo, then I'd be quite upset at Samsung.
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Not to derail but you can argue that all android manufacturers are slow with updates, Samsung gets a lot of attention because they sell a lot of phones.
With that said, Samsung is painfully slow and I think this device stands little to no chance of a Q1 update, just my opinion.
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They are not only slow but also the updates themselves are notoriously bad and it usually takes a long time for bug fixes. Samsung's software development side is really not that great.
You are right though, as of right now all of the manufacturers suck pretty hardcore. It's pretty ridiculous really, hopefully they get better with releasing fewer devices.
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Whenever a carrier, (e.g. AT&T, TMobile, Sprint, Verizon) gets involved, the updates slow to a crawl. In all fairness to Samsung, they've been pretty good with updates to the 10.1. I've seen an update to 3.1 and 3.2 since I bought mine on launch day, and they were fairly quick. Mind you, I'm taking into account the fact that Samsung had to put touchwiz on Honeycomb and fix some of the issues that were left behind when Honeycomb launched. We've also seen Samsung move rather quickly to resolve issues on the 7Plus, including an update that dropped last night that is supposed to fix the SOD issue. All in all, Samsung has been good about updating its wifi-only devices, so while I'm confident that the phones will miss that Q1 deadline, I have high hopes for the tablets.
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Yes, it is key to not forget the carrier influences and also bear in mind that carrier-specific variants of, e.g., the Galaxy S2 were not within the scope of Samsung's ICS in Q1 announcement.
My previous phone was the Epic 4G. It was the first US carrier variant to receive official Froyo and Gingerbread updates but it received them well after the "stock" Galaxy S model (GT-I9000, I believe) received them.
So in other words, when looking at Samsung's update record, remember to compare apples to apples. Nexus One got its official Froyo upgrade in May of 2010, I think. The GT-I9000 got its official Froyo upgrade in August. Gingerbread was released in December of 2010 on the Nexus S. I believe the Nexus One got its upgrade in January of 2011 and the GT-I9000 got its GB upgrade in March of 2011.
All in all, not too shabby for Samsung. It's only when you factor in variants (which have all been customized to various degrees which require OS customization) and carrier agendas (I believe AT&T let its phones languish on 2.1 for a good while to not have them be competitive with the iPhone, which was AT&T exclusive at the time) that Samsung's rep starts to take a turn.
The I9000 vs Captivate is probably the clearest example of the negative effect a carrier can have on update releases.
The I9000 and Captivate were close enough that it took developers here very little time (days maybe? weeks at most...) to begin running I9000 releases on the Captivate. However, it took on the order of nine months from the I9000's GB release before the Captivate officially received Gingerbread.
Similarly, Samsung has only been slightly behind other tablet vendors in Honeycomb updates for the Tab 10.1, mainly due to being the first vendor to include a custom skin - but "behind" has usually been at worst 1-2 months of delay.
Similarly, the I9100 is scheduled to receive ICS in March and Sammy seems on track with that. However, the I777 (AT&T variant) probably won't see official ICS until 2013...
For the 7.0 Plus - for the developers the Tab does have, I think polishing the current HC releases is the top priority. Honestly, ICS offers far less compared to HC than it does compared to GB, and right now, there's some major work to be done on the 7.0 Plus thanks to Samsung being asshats with regards to AR6000 driver source code.
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Official GB. If I were still on Froyo, then I'd be quite upset at Samsung.
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Yep, mine was GB right out of the box! Love this little device!
Mines has 3.2 with honeycomb. Not sure what version that is.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/04/30/s...de-will-be-available-today-on-select-devices/
Good news for some Canadian Samsung Galaxy owners today. I just received an email that Samsung and respective carriers will start to push out the long awaited upgrade to Android OS 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich today. Samsung stated that “the upgrade will be available today on select devices in Canada and will continue rolling out to devices and carriers throughout the quarter.” There’s no word on which carriers or devices will be getting ICS today, just a confirmed list of devices, including various smartphone and tablets. We’ve reached out to Samsung for a bit more clarity, but they do note that “The availability and scheduling of the software upgrade and specific models upgradable to Android 4.0 will vary by market and wireless carriers’ requirements. For carrier specific details, please visit your nearest carrier retailer.”
Here’s the complete list of devices that will be graced with Android OS 4.0:
- GALAXY S II
- GALAXY S II LTE
- GALAXY S II LTE HD
- GALAXY S II X
- GALAXY Note
- GALAXY Tab 7.0
- GALAXY Tab 7.0 Plus
- GALAXY Tab 8.9
- GALAXY Tab 10.1
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Would I be able to update if I'm rooted? Thx.
i would say yes. thank you for this.
Let us know
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Made my day.
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Would be nice if one of our Canadian friends posted the stock ICS ROM if they receive it today *hint*hint*
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That is a very odd statement for alleged updated that are landing "today" with no details on which devices are being updated "today".
We would have at least expect them to say which devices are starting the roll out today and which are "coming soon".
Is the P6200 being sold in Canada or is it the Wifi P6210?
I think its just the 6210.
the best good news!
well, at least we are getting some "roll".. though the "soon" is still there, it's stil a much better news than before.
What doesn't sit well with me though is that it has Galaxy Tab 7.0 in the list. I thought the regular 7.0 wasn't getting the update or am I terribly mistaken?
Update: We’ve heard back from Samsung and it looks like the rollout will start later this week: “The ICS update will be available this week and will continue rolling out to devices and carriers throughout the quarter.”
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What doesn't sit well with me though is that it has Galaxy Tab 7.0 in the list. I thought the regular 7.0 wasn't getting the update or am I terribly mistaken?
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I agree. It was always pretty clear that the original Tab's hardware would keep it out of the running for an official upgrade to ICS (or so said Samsung). Something seems not quite right here.
By the way, at my local Best Buy, as of last weekend, all the Samsung tablets are on clearance.
But the update is rolling out:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/30/samsung-canada-ics-touchwiz-rollout/
Ah that is a bit more definitive that something is happening. Guess that is good news in general though.
No updates available as yet.
My build is Canadian: P6210XXLb2
If I can't update, which stock ROM do you guys suggest I install before trying update? Screenshot of "about device" attached. Thx.
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I agree. It was always pretty clear that the original Tab's hardware would keep it out of the running for an official upgrade to ICS (or so said Samsung). Something seems not quite right here.
By the way, at my local Best Buy, as of last weekend, all the Samsung tablets are on clearance.
But the update is rolling out:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/30/samsung-canada-ics-touchwiz-rollout/
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That's probably the 7.7. The GTab 7.0 was never on any of the lists for upgrade I've seen.
Not to ruin the party, but they will probably start with updating the Galaxy S II (like they did in Europe) and then slowly, through the end of quarter add additional devices.
If you read the press release closely that's what it probably means.
Don't expect to see an update before the European unlocked (of Hong Kong) version get it.
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-galaxy TAB 7 (P1000 2010 VERSION) = ICS will not released (maybe a ginger value pack)
-galaxy TAB 7.7 (P6800) = ICS will be released (probably te last on the list...)
Where are the custom ROMS?????
I like ANDROID stock ROMS like Gingerbread, Honeycomb and ICS , but how about the custom roms for this device?? I do not know what happen to the developers of the devices to build a nice one. I have installed at least 20 different custom ROMS for my SAMSUNG GALAXY ACE smarthphone, but I only found a custom Rom for the galaxy tab plus that is called OMGBQROM. Where is the cyanongemod 7 or MIUI Roms????? That is a pity because this device is excellent for a person who wants to carry it into a pocket or small bag.
Oh god, so excited! When will this come in europe then? Anybody know that?
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Well.. maybe someday we'll get it since available now to most everyone else. Anyone wondering besides me if they delayed it to maybe integrate Jelly Bean???
I severely doubt its because of some Samsung plot to surprise us with JB.
What you are seeing is smaller markets than the US being used to beta test a software release for free. Thats all.
Also, just install the UK ROM dump. Seriously. Its that good.
I agree. Have the UK version and will switch to the US version when it becomes available.
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My theory is that the reason for the U.S. delay is Government regulations and the <blank> patent office. It's been two weeks since the first ICS 4.0.4 was released for the UK folks which runs fine on the U.S. 6210, so it probably has to go through the layers long approval process first before us customers get anything which will probably make it more broken down than the UK version to boot.
So, I had idea, and I don't know if it's been done. I wondered if it would be useful to create a list of as many phones made by each manufacturer as possible, include the launch date, and determine the date of the last update provided. Based on this, we could take an average of how long each manufacturer provides updates for their devices before EOLing hardware (even though it's usually an artificial EOL since the devices are more than capable of running current releases). Would anyone be interested in this data, and would anyone like to assist me in this pursuit?
Interesting idea and it may take a lot of data analysis to figure that out.
Also something to consider is that does it differ by region? I spoke to one of my friends who works in Hong Kong Fortress (a big box store like Best Buy) and for HK, supposedly Sony and Samsung get the quickest updates. Him mentioning Sony definitely surprised me. After that it's HTC and then LG. except for the Nexus 4 of course.. I can attest to LG since my last phone Optimux 2X took forever to get updates available.
Also note that in HK, Motorola has pretty much given up on the market, so I don't think any of their phones get updates here anymore.
Your biggest issue will be that the OEMs dont control updates in alot of places. The carriers have most of the power when it comes to updates. The OEM may send them an update but the carrier can refuse to push the update to handsets.
of course,sony and samsung privde updates the fastest and newer versions of android(samsung updates its 2 year old dual cores to 4.2.2 adn some of them come from 2.3).Htc is also up with updates,but a bit slower.Well,lg is out of the list.They never update their phones.The promised a ics update for my e730 last summer and i still run on gb
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of course,sony and samsung privde updates the fastest and newer versions of android(samsung updates its 2 year old dual cores to 4.2.2 adn some of them come from 2.3).Htc is also up with updates,but a bit slower.Well,lg is out of the list.They never update their phones.The promised a ics update for my e730 last summer and i still run on gb
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This sounds about right. Those "Dual-core" phones were the Galaxy i9100 and the S2 Skyrocket variant for AT&T for 4.1.2. Instead of Sony: I would put ASUS next. Their TF300 got the 4.2 update back in March. In-fact: ASUS Support has no restrictions about recommending Custom ROMs and will even link you to a few.
Sony and LG are like....eh. I'd even add HTC to the list. They put out a list, but it's ages before we hear from them again.
I dream of a future when we have open platforms and we can update devices at our will...
the best is samsung and the worst is LG
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the best is samsung and the worst is LG
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Yes LG is indeed the worst. The official GINGERBREAD update came out for the Optimus 2X in December 2012... and it was extremely buggy, pretty much unusable. Needless to say I ditched the phone in March.
Hello I am looking to get the 7.7 tab but then I noticed this one is almost 2 years old now. I want it to work on the Verizon network like this does. I have searched all over and cannot find anywhere that says if Samsung will be releasing an updated version. Does anyone possibly know?
The only model thus far with JB released is the P6800 (SEA firmware). It's been sadly 2 months since, and no other model, including my P6810 has a JB update (for any region). Many are losing hope....
But to answer your question directly, I have not seen any information anywhere for JB update for any model except P6800. I search on almost a daily basis. No one knows.
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Yeah, it does seem like you are in for a long wait for an official update from Samsung for a Verizon 7.7.
It would appear your best bet would be to install a customs ROM for Jellybean.
I'd recommend this one and you may wish to read up on it to determine if the update would work on the device on the Verizon network. I believe it does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2139747