Hi all. New to XDA but have finally joined. I have taken the step away from Samsung's bloatware and been using the UK version of Droid Turbo 2... The Moto X force. Have to say is a fantastic beast of a phone but have recently been experiencing overheating and the phone reaching 45°c (gsam battery monitor). Literally heats up in 3 minutes of Clash of Clan on about 20% screen brightness. I thought this version of snapdragon 810 was the "revised" version which had no overheating. Should I be concerned about this or is it normal? I'll be sending phone back to Motorola anyway to fix a stuck pixel so was wondering if this is something that should be mentioned. Thanks in advance all :good: sorry if this thread is in the wrong place.
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Hi all. New to XDA but have finally joined. I have taken the step away from Samsung's bloatware and been using the UK version of Droid Turbo 2... The Moto X force. Have to say is a fantastic beast of a phone but have recently been experiencing overheating and the phone reaching 45°c (gsam battery monitor). Literally heats up in 3 minutes of Clash of Clan on about 20% screen brightness. I thought this version of snapdragon 810 was the "revised" version which had no overheating. Should I be concerned about this or is it normal? I'll be sending phone back to Motorola anyway to fix a stuck pixel so was wondering if this is something that should be mentioned. Thanks in advance all :good: sorry if this thread is in the wrong place.
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You probably want this forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo-2
Moto X Force/Droid Turbo 2 released in late 2015/early 2016 is "Kinzie". Even though it's called the "Droid Turbo 2" forum, it's really an all-in-one Kinzie forum.
This forum is for the late 2014/early 2015 "Quark" -- Moto Maxx (XT1225, XT1250)/Moto Turbo (XT1225)/Droid Turbo 1 (XT1254), even though confusingly there's also another dedicated Droid Turbo XT1254 forum. (But most of the dev work for all the Quarks are in this forum.)
The Quark released about the same time as the Moto Nexus 6, and was the closest thing to a 5.2" version of the too-big Moto Nexus 6 -- with 95% same specs except for size.
Same manufacturer,
same CPU,
GPU,
RAM,
1440p resolution,
turbo charging,
Qi wireless charging.
It was what the gen6 Nexus should have been -- and Google/Motorola was testing a 5.2" version of the Nexus 6 as late as mid-August 2014... Note smaller, more reasonable size, yet BIGGER battery?
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Yeah, I need to update the software portion -- BOTH have Marshmallow now. (We have Marshmallow custom ROM, if not stock.)
"Kinzie", then, is the successor to "Quark" -- but in our opinions isn't that much better, other than going from Snapdragon 805 to the problematic Snapdragon 810 and supposed "unbreakable" screen display (which has had green glitching issues). If Motorola had wanted to really improve the phone, they would have given it rear camera OIS and stereo speakers -- like their Moto Nexus 6 had. Those were the only two things missing from the Quark that would have made it PERFECT!
When the Moto X Force was first announced, we had high hopes and there was a thread discussing the upcoming phone, but the real forum is in the link above.
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Shah1989 said:
Hi all. New to XDA but have finally joined. I have taken the step away from Samsung's bloatware and been using the UK version of Droid Turbo 2... The Moto X force. Have to say is a fantastic beast of a phone but have recently been experiencing overheating and the phone reaching 45°c (gsam battery monitor). Literally heats up in 3 minutes of Clash of Clan on about 20% screen brightness. I thought this version of snapdragon 810 was the "revised" version which had no overheating. Should I be concerned about this or is it normal? I'll be sending phone back to Motorola anyway to fix a stuck pixel so was wondering if this is something that should be mentioned. Thanks in advance all :good: sorry if this thread is in the wrong place.
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I read somewhere that people were having issues with the moto x force overheating due to improperly installed SIM cards. If they aren't trimmed properly they short things out. You got a grounded pad man?
Sorry what do you mean by grounded pad? And I have checked my sim and it is properly installed
Grounded pad
If your SIM card isn't cut properly or, it's too thick it can cause a short leading to overheating issues. There was some mention of a known issue with cards and certain Motorola phones under the comment section of gsmarena.com . Sorry, your issue didn't turn out to be that simple. Good luck! Hope you find a solution.
got my xt1580 from netherlands 2 weeks ago yeah it does overheat about 45° celsius and even above but only when turbo charging mode conected and yes for me is acceptable , turbo charge and a good battery life ( 2 days ) dont worry it's not an nuclear reactor core its just a small problem but in other conditions like intense usage my x force its in normal limits
I got my Moto X Force in September 2016. At the beginning, it was overheating here and there, but remained acceptable overall. In November 2016 I Installed the September security patches, just as they became available for my device. And ever since, It's become a nightmare - once on either Wi-Fi or 3g/4g, the phone would eat up 1% of the battery per minute. And it is constantly VERY hot, approx 102-104 F. In the Airplane mode, with no WiFi, the consumption remains acceptable, yet higher than it used to be. Other than that the phone is practically unusable due to the heat and the speed at which it looses battery. Please signal if any of you has got the same issues.
I haven't installed any new apps ever since the problems started.
The other change was that I installed a new 200Gb (Sandisk) microSD instead of a 64Gb I used previously. I formatted the disk as Internal memory. I strongly doubt this may have been the root cause of the phone constant overheating though.
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I got my Moto X Force in September 2016. At the beginning, it was overheating here and there, but remained acceptable overall. In November 2016 I Installed the September security patches, just as they became available for my device. And ever since, It's become a nightmare - once on either Wi-Fi or 3g/4g, the phone would eat up 1% of the battery per minute. And it is constantly VERY hot, approx 102-104 F. In the Airplane mode, with no WiFi, the consumption remains acceptable, yet higher than it used to be. Other than that the phone is practically unusable due to the heat and the speed at which it looses battery. Please signal if any of you has got the same issues.
I haven't installed any new apps ever since the problems started.
The other change was that I installed a new 200Gb (Sandisk) microSD instead of a 64Gb I used previously. I formatted the disk as Internal memory. I strongly doubt this may have been the root cause of the phone constant overheating though.
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Sorry for your problems, but as we mentioned up top, this is the wrong forum for Moto X Force (2015 Kinzie). This is the 2014 Quark forum, the predecessor to Kinzie. We don't have microSD cards.
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Like the title say.
Is it worth it over the htc desire, dell streak and the nexus one?
I need a phone that support umts 1900 mhz and I'm deciding between those at the moment.
For the moment I'm inclining myself more to the d2g for the faster cpu, but in close second is the nexus one just for the better updates.
Well spec wise the d2g is the best of the bunch. Are you in the US? If you are, chances are you won't be able to use this with gsm technology, its locked from US carriers, but you can use it with international gsm carriers.
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No I'll be using outside the US. I know is block to US carriers. The only thing concerning me about this phone is some of the complains I have seen about the battery life and some heat issues.
The phone can last you a day and then some with moderate use, my d2g never gets hotter than 100F, or 35C
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After reading a lot on the heating issues. It looks like the problem is when you are using 3g data that heats the cellphone.
I'm deciding between this and the nexus one.
Haha, I'm always on 3g and I'm always in the range I specified, I guess some people might think that's too hot, but I guess they've never used an amd laptop
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lol maybe.
I have seen some pretty scary temps, some guy even got 118 f. It looks like the problem is software relate it. Maybe you don't have the problem because you have root and you are using fission.
I use my D2G in GSM/UMTS mode only outside US. The highest temperature I've seen reported in logs is 41 deg C. Battery lasts between 8 hours (heavy use), 12 hours (moderate-light use) and 20+ hours very light use. Under moderate use I mean normal activity with screen on for aprox 2.5 hours. These numbers I get since the recent OTA update. Before that - about 15-20% lower numbers. Update increased battery life.
I would be worried.. I was one of the persons who reported the heat issue and battery life. Here is the thread:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/293031
I switched to the DX and I can safely say it doesn't get as hot after 1hr of 3G data..the D2G would reach 104F in 10mins after just streaming a online radio at 128kbps ..all my findings are in the thread above. Just read through it and make your decision. It's a great phone though, I just had minor problems.
Nexus is a year old. It wouldn't be a step in the right direction. D2G is great and will exceed your expectations.
Heat/battery life/etc. are all user-specific symptoms. You'll experience things based on how you use your phone.
Expect a 1.2Ghz chip to get warm. There's not a heatsink or fan in there!
nexus one overclocked to 200mhz doesnt get so warm...oh well I suggest a Nexus S if you gonna sign that dotted line.
my d2g lasts me all day with ease, and ive never seen the temp above 37C, usually right at 35C
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my d2g lasts me all day with ease, and ive never seen the temp above 37C, usually right at 35C
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What are your usage stats? This is mine on my DX:
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My D2G died after 5hours with this usage..
5 hrs of voice calls is quite a bit for one day, youre usually only awake like 16 hours a day...jesus lol.
mine goes like this:
display:32%
android system:15%
adwlauncher ex:11%
beautiful widgets:10%
phone idle:7%
Cell standby:7%
pure messenger widget:5%
android os:3%
handcent sms:3%
facebook:2%
media:2%
phones been running for 9 hours and im at 30% battery.
done alot of messaging and phone calls today so this is actually atypical for my phone. usually after 9 hours it would still be around 50%
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5 hrs of voice calls is quite a bit for one day, youre usually only awake like 16 hours a day...jesus lol.
mine goes like this:
display:32%
android system:15%
adwlauncher ex:11%
beautiful widgets:10%
phone idle:7%
Cell standby:7%
pure messenger widget:5%
android os:3%
handcent sms:3%
facebook:2%
media:2%
phones been running for 9 hours and im at 30% battery.
done alot of messaging and phone calls today so this is actually atypical for my phone. usually after 9 hours it would still be around 50%
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I had alot of calls that day..plus conference calls for business meeting.. I slept like a baby the following night lol..On avg, it's 3-4hr display on time, 1hr voice calls and the phone is dead after 20hrs..
But yea, your usage seem minimal..you should select Display and Cell Stand by so we have an idea of how long your screen has been on. Maybe media, facebook as well...
display on:2h 1m 20s
cell standby on time:10hr12m42s
time w/o signal:0%
im still on 30% battery btw
fb:
cpu total:1m44s
cpu foreground:1m15s
data sent: 139.35kb
received: 1.00mb
media:
cpu total:1m31s
foreground:1m14s
So besides the overheating issues some have seen, is there anything else wrong with this phone. I'm thinking of switching over from a HTC Droid Incredible.
I've been having too many issues with the Incredible that I want off of it. And this phone looks to be the best Android phone on Verizon with a keyboard that I have seen.
Well, there are few issues that D2g has that you must be aware of before taking the plunge:
1. Exchange push email is broken. Motorola is working on fix, but its been quite a while (months) and still not fixed;
2. Battery life is not great. Be prepared to recharge mid day if you are heavy user. Or buy ext.battery which partially addresses this issue.
3. MP3 playback suffers popping and skipping. Issue is still not recognized by Motorola. There is still no good and free workaround for this;
4. Phone doesn't really perform great in UMTS mode, even update Motorola issued mid December breaks it even more.
Sorry if this sound discouraging but I believe everyone should be aware of these facts before making purchasing decision.
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Well, there are few issues that D2g has that you must be aware of before taking the plunge:
1. Exchange push email is broken. Motorola is working on fix, but its been quite a while (months) and still not fixed;
2. Battery life is not great. Be prepared to recharge mid day if you are heavy user. Or buy ext.battery which partially addresses this issue.
3. MP3 playback suffers popping and skipping. Issue is still not recognized by Motorola. There is still no good and free workaround for this;
4. Phone doesn't really perform great in UMTS mode, even update Motorola issued mid December breaks it even more.
Sorry if this sound discouraging but I believe everyone should be aware of these facts before making purchasing decision.
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I've never noticed #1 and 3 on my d2g, maybe its just the stock music player that does this, im using the connected media player made by motorola and I absolutely love it, I use it to play music when im at the gym. I also use push mail for my .edu address no problem.
The battery life improved with motorola's update, that and using set cpu and droid overclock to underclock and undervolt, you can get a lot of battery life out of this thing, I get a little over 3 days on one charge, and I have 2 batteries so that's almost a week I can go with no charging. I hate the fact that signal strength sucks in gsm mode, I don't know if motorola can fix it, might be a hardware issue.
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1 - push email works unreliably. Sometimes it works, others- phone can go for hours without receiving email unless manually refresh. Email poll works fine, it is PUSH that's broken. There are plenty of discussion about this especially on Motorola's official forum.
3. It is the built in player that sucks. PowerAMP from market does not have issue, but costs money.
Update 2.4.330 does not really do anything good for battery life. At least I haven't noticed difference. It surely breaks GSM support, at least in my case - using Unlocked on Rogers Canada.
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Good to see Android winning i love it.
My request to the manufacturers is to concentrate on a higher capacity for the battery which they are providing with the phone.
And a proper case like a flip one would be better.Some countries they sell only mobiles not the accessories.We dont mind paying a little extra for that if you include it in the package.
Suggestion to Google:I am not a software developer i dont know if you are doing this but as a user i would like to upgrade my android os version along with you when you release it i hate waiting for the manufacturers to realease an update.
Android by default has an UI right give the option for the end user to choose if they want to go with the default Android UI or wait for their device manufacturer to realease an update.
Example like Windows OS can run on any branded pc/laptop or an assembled desktop and for the drivers people can go to their manufacturers website and download it.
Also Google please release the minimum hardware requirements corresponding to the version of Android.
I appreciate google for its continuos effort in fixing/upgrading the android versions we end users also want to enjoy the newer versions.
Example HTC Desire was released last year and better specs than Nexus 1 and Ginger bread was released in December 2010 i guess till date more than 5 months i am waiting for Gingerbread from HTC or i have to choose a Mod which the XDA developers are working hard in porting it and fixing issues.
Please Google dont let the end users behind.Google and the android phone manufacturers remember you are nothing without the End buyers.
You satisfy us we will buy your products.Also manufacturers concentrate on middle east because these are the oil rich countries we have enough money to buy any damn smart phone/Tablet what ever price it is.
I sold my HTC Desire just because i hated waiting for updates i will buy my next Android phone only if i get a minimum of 2400 mah battery as a default from the manufacturer and a direct android os UI / manufacturer UI option other wise i will not buy it.I have the money to buy any android phone/tablet out there today but i will not buy it.
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get the nexus it is the only phone that gets all the updates because essentially it is a developers phone.
Then you can root and then get a kernel that is undervolt and you will get all the battery life you ever desired.
I hear ya. The 4g and the Thunderbolt don't mix very well.
The 'HTC Thunderbolt aka Mecha' and 'HTC Evo 'Lightspeed' are the same phone except antenna, the Thunderbolt suffers from the same issue as the ADR-6200 HTC Incredible, the battery is under sized for the phone thus you get about 6 hours max usage anything above that is luck and or careful management of battery usage. It is a well known issue with both phones.
As far as Android OS in general 'background data' and various accounts syncing are the biggest issues I think in regards to battery. It can do so much but, it will drain battery. It's a fair trade off Android does so much more which makes sense it would suck the life out of any battery. Think of a laptop, it gets maybe 2 hours max on a single charge.
Instead of more processor power and RAM, I wish they'd work on hardware acceleration and battery power.
Yeah I agree battery technology should be really worked on, I would love to be able to get a week out of my battery before charge!!
Alexanderbooth said:
Yeah I agree battery technology should be really worked on, I would love to be able to get a week out of my battery before charge!!
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I'd be more happy with just a guaranteed day to start.
Still rocking the Incredible with the XDA Premium App.
android is a very capable platform im loving my nexus s glad i chose android for its freedom and customizability although im a minimalistic kind of person.
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I'd be more happy with just a guaranteed day to start.
Still rocking the Incredible with the XDA Premium App.
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I can easy get a day out of my streak, more than a day really.
a higher capacity for the battery 。。。
how i wish so~~
Not just higher capacity but a tweak to the os to make it less
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based on nano technologhy, battery capacities will be higher and dimensions lower at near feature..
nexus s 4g mounting as disk drive option
having trouble mounting sd card as a disk drive on a windows 7 64bit machine...... tried using device manager..... i need to transfer some files to my sd to root...
I agree it sucks sometimes that the battery just drains soooo fast.
You can obviously try an SD Card adapter, but do you have the necessary drivers for your device.?
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having trouble mounting sd card as a disk drive on a windows 7 64bit machine...... tried using device manager..... i need to transfer some files to my sd to root...
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Calkulin's ROM completely screwed my Evo. ive been working non-stop for almost 2 months trying to get it back to normal. At first, it killed my recieving of calls and texts. I fixed that, and now it will only charge when turned off, it has a terrible battery life (like 2 hours) and it wont recognize my SD card....My advice..Calkulin, either fix the the problems with the ROM or, Evo users, DO NOT DOWNLOAD this ROM. its caused me nothing but problems.
If the manufactures would divert some of the money they are spending on the processers and other things in our phones to battery technology we wouldn't be asking for this, its sad we have to.
Battery tech is what we need to better save the whole world!
They need better battery batteries, out of thinnner batteries, if that made any sense. So they can make phones super thin.
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My big excitement for 6.0 was Doze and I think many other people felt the same. So I thought I'd post my experience thus far here.
I sideloaded the US 6.0 ROM yesterday around 10AM with 67% left on my phone. At 11PM I had 27% left, usually going that long would have me somewhere around the mid teens at 11PM.
I don't have a lot of screen on time, but when it is on I'm usually playing a game (Hearthstone) or watching a video. My SoT varies between 1.5 to 2.5 hours on a normal day. I have a Moto 360 (2015) that I use for all of my notification checking and such so my phone usually sits on a desk or in a pocket. I leave GPS on high accuracy all the time and am usually running on wifi but stream Google Play music over LTE for about 2 hours while driving throughout the day.
You'd think that using a smartwatch would give me better battery life, but at least with Lollipop my battery life was actually worse when my smartwatch is synced. By about 5%
I am using the 6.0 ROM and cell standby yet again is what is using most battery.
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It shows day and something because inhad it unplugged overnight
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patt2k said:
I am using the 6.0 ROM and cell standby yet again is what is using most battery.
It shows day and something because inhad it unplugged overnight
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What's your screen on time? And what are the details of your cell standby?
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What's your screen on time? And what are the details of your cell standby?
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Did you ever consider you need to give the new rom time to settle?
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Did you ever consider you need to give the new rom time to settle?
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Maybe time will tell
Personally, I've never really noticed the settling in of a ROM, as far as battery life is concerned.
As far as the OP, I've also noticed a slight increase in battery life, particularly standby, so it seems doze is working as advertised. I'm going to leave my phone off the charger tonight and see how much juice I lose. It's usually around 10-15%.
I flashed the deodexed debloated rooted MM from the development thread last night, so far battery life is worse than TruePureX LP for me. On TruePureX LP, my idle drain is close to 0%, but now the drain is -10%/hr to -20%/hr... I wonder if the phone is doing the internal memory encryption? (I don't have an sd card inserted). Hopefully it will get better...
Battery drain was worse when I first updated to MM, but today battery use has been great. Much better standby time than lollipop.
Can I just say...my phone was at 100% at 8:50am this morning. Right now (9pm) at 33%. And it promises me it has 7 more hours in it. Coming from a Galaxy S4 where I changed battery halfway through the day, I am beyond impressed. This is better than I expected. At first didn't get into the big Doze hype, but now. Wow.
Nevermind... DERP
Please delete mods
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Make sure you go to: Settings/ Apps/ then select the settings icon and then Battery Optimization and change the toggle to All Apps.
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Pretty sure all that does is change the filter. For me, the default was "Not optimized", so it only showed the 3 apps that aren't optimized (DMService, Google Play services, and Motorola Notification). Apparently these 3 apps cannot be optimized since they all say "Battery optimization not available".
Toggling to "All apps" just switches the filter to show (you guessed it) all apps.
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Pretty sure all that does is change the filter. For me, the default was "Not optimized", so it only showed the 3 apps that aren't optimized (DMService, Google Play services, and Motorola Notification). Apparently these 3 apps cannot be optimized since they all say "Battery optimization not available".
Toggling to "All apps" just switches the filter to show (you guessed it) all apps.
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hahaha... that's hilarious. Derp!
Here is an update I turned off scanning in location, didn't listen to any music since I fully charged my phone. Much better battery life however I usually listen to music via bt everyday. Oh and cell standby is much better.
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I'm happy with the doze effect... i get very little battery drain while its on stand by.... maybe 1 percent over 3 hours... but while using it i do see a steep drop in the battery while playing games/videos... which is fine....
patt2k said:
Here is an update I turned off scanning in location, didn't listen to any music since I fully charged my phone. Much better battery life however I usually listen to music via bt everyday. Oh and cell standby is much better.
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Hmm...I turned scanning off as well but it didn't help with drain from Cell Standby much (probably because Im on WiFi all day anyway) but Doze seems to work now (I turned off "keep WiFi on during sleep"). I can't really complain though because I'm pretty happy with these numbers. If Cell Standby is actually reporting accurately, my battery life would be beyond phenomenal if drain from it were to be fixed.
FYI, this is on the completely stock OTA.
You get better battery life by far using LTE more often. For some this isn't an option because of tiered data but I'm unlimited. Qualcomm's.power envelope for LTE is a much more noticeable improvement on battery in the moto x. And WiFi range isn't as good as my note4. LTE on the note4 is marginally better than WiFi with power envelope tech, but still a noticeable improvement on battery. I exclusively use LTE on my note4 and moto x because of this. Less charging because I get better battery and better for the battery life long term as I'm using less charging cycles. And moto needs to hurry up on the marshmallow update. I want my band 12 activated so I can try using it again asy daily driver. The note4 is still a beast and longest I've used a phone as daily driver at 14+ months. Tmobile dropped the ball skipping the 5.1.1 update. Terrible terrible because 5.0.1 is half assed on Samsung and tmobile's part. 6.0 for marshmallow doesnt excite me because I'm still stuck on 4.4.4.because 5.0.1 is soooo bad.
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You get better battery life by far using LTE more often. For some this isn't an option because of tiered data but I'm unlimited. Qualcomm's.power envelope for LTE is a much more noticeable improvement on battery in the moto x. And WiFi range isn't as good as my note4. LTE on the note4 is marginally better than WiFi with power envelope tech, but still a noticeable improvement on battery. I exclusively use LTE on my note4 and moto x because of this. Less charging because I get better battery and better for the battery life long term as I'm using less charging cycles. And moto needs to hurry up on the marshmallow update. I want my band 12 activated so I can try using it again asy daily driver. The note4 is still a beast and longest I've used a phone as daily driver at 14+ months. Tmobile dropped the ball skipping the 5.1.1 update. Terrible terrible because 5.0.1 is half assed on Samsung and tmobile's part. 6.0 for marshmallow doesnt excite me because I'm still stuck on 4.4.4.because 5.0.1 is soooo bad.
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The longest you've used a phone as a DD is 14 months and you're worried about the number of charging cycles you have on your MXPE? I'd understand if you're looking to get 3 years out of it.
I'm on day three, and so far it's been better for me too. Outstanding when left untouched, slightly better when using it. Doze is really that good, it's just hard to leave my phone alone long enough for it to work LOL. Performance was great for me on LP but is noticeably quicker on MM. I will say that after the initial OTA update, it wasn't what I expected so did a factory reset.. after the reset, was tons better. Beyond impressed!
I cracked 4hrs SOT for the first time since I got my MXPE thanks to MM. High accuracy location and Bluetooth on the whole time.
Hello.
I pre-ordered my S22 Ultra on February 11th and received it on the 15th, I don't know why but Samsung decided to send it to me before the 24th.
I've had it for more than 24 hours now and I'd like to share a first opinion with you.
I specify that it is an Exynos 8Gb 128GB model
A big update from samsung is needed.
I don't feel like I have a phone over 1000€, lots of bugs, the phone run very slowly sometimes and gets a little warm.
Ram management is very bad, many applications close in the background
Regarding the battery, it's a disaster, barely 4 hours SOT and I have 20% left.
I am in dual Sim and almost all the time in WIFI and no 5G, I will try a new cycle with a single SIM card.
For the photography part I didn't do a lot of tests but my first opinion is positive, the photos seem to be of very good quality.
The night shots are great too.
I hope that samsung will soon bring updates because for the moment I'm disappointed.
Congrats on receiving it early! Hopefully the bugs can be resolved with an update. Which phone did you upgrade from as a comparison?
keebfox said:
Congrats on receiving it early! Hopefully the bugs can be resolved with an update. Which phone did you upgrade from as a comparison?
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I come from a oneplus 8 pro and he is faster than the S22.
You're one lucky man to have it already!
Can you try to enter developer mode and check how low it goes in terms of refresh rate in different scenarios (e. G. home screen, static image, aod)
Thanks in advance!
xdocent said:
You're one lucky man to have it already!
Can you try to enter developer mode and check how low it goes in terms of refresh rate in different scenarios (e. G. home screen, static image, aod)
Thanks in advance!
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It's simple there are only 2.
As soon as I touch the screen it's 120hz and otherwise it goes down to 24hz, it never goes below.
edit : on AOD it's 60hz all the time
SamFR said:
It's simple there are only 2.
As soon as I touch the screen it's 120hz and otherwise it goes down to 24hz, it never goes below.
edit : on AOD it's 60hz all the time
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Thanks. I've been looking for such straightforward answer for few days!
I received mine on February 11th. It's the 256gb/12gb EU version.
The phone have soft (when I spam the lock button, it eventually recovers) frozen twice in this period but I think this was caused by Nova Launcher, haven't froze since I went back to OneUI launcher.
I previously had S20+ and the battery is much better on S22U. Same heavy usage through the day but when I hit the bed its still at 50%. S20+ was at 0% couple of hours before bedtime. Haven't noticed any other slowdowns, heat problems or RAM management errors. Camera feels OK but the colours look better on S21U when compared side-by-side.
But for adaptive refreshrate - Using the default keyboard and writing an email or something, the refreshrate really comes way down to a point when the keyboard feels really sluggish lol. Nothing that an update couldn't fix.
SamFR said:
Hello.
I pre-ordered my S22 Ultra on February 11th and received it on the 15th, I don't know why but Samsung decided to send it to me before the 24th.
I've had it for more than 24 hours now and I'd like to share a first opinion with you.
I specify that it is an Exynos 8Gb 128GB model
A big update from samsung is needed.
I don't feel like I have a phone over 1000€, lots of bugs, the phone run very slowly sometimes and gets a little warm.
Ram management is very bad, many applications close in the background
Regarding the battery, it's a disaster, barely 4 hours SOT and I have 20% left.
I am in dual Sim and almost all the time in WIFI and no 5G, I will try a new cycle with a single SIM card.
For the photography part I didn't do a lot of tests but my first opinion is positive, the photos seem to be of very good quality.
The night shots are great too.
I hope that samsung will soon bring updates because for the moment I'm disappointed.
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possible you could have a bad phone with hardware issue's?
tvos
SamFR said:
Hello.
I pre-ordered my S22 Ultra on February 11th and received it on the 15th, I don't know why but Samsung decided to send it to me before the 24th.
Regarding the battery, it's a disaster, barely 4 hours SOT and I have 20% left.
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You've had the phone for a day. Battery tests are complete nonsense and inaccurate until at least a week into using the device.
Somehow I think that most people forget that when a device is just fresh out of the oven it takes about a week to learn your usage patterns and charging patterns. ALso most manufacturers publish a OS update almost when it is launched due to bugs and whatnot. I remember when S21 ultra came out it was buggy as hell. Give it a week and you might be surprised. Also remember that there are lots of settings that need to be tweaked like power management, charging optimization, etc.
SamFR said:
It's simple there are only 2.
As soon as I touch the screen it's 120hz and otherwise it goes down to 24hz, it never goes below.
edit : on AOD it's 60hz all the time
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Put the screen brightness to max for a moment and see if the refresh rate goes down to 1 hertz. Please
You guys might have got production models U weren't supposed to get via some glitzch. I'd check it out.
Since last night I'm starting to have a problem with OneUI launcher.
When I'm on the home screen or app drawer, the screen goes black and the phone locks.
It happens approximately every 2 minutes and I don't have this problem with any other launcher.
See the attached video.
EDIT : the problem was related to a specific app (crypto.com). I uninstalled it and I no longer have this problem.
There is always a big OTA when the device launches. It has always been this way with Samsung devices. Trust me. Had the same on my S5, S7, S8, S9+, S10+, S20+ and S21 Ultra.
Got mine this morning, 12/256 exynos, already having some bugs
SamFR said:
Since last night I'm starting to have a problem with OneUI launcher.
When I'm on the home screen or app drawer, the screen goes black and the phone locks.
It happens approximately every 2 minutes and I don't have this problem with any other launcher.
See the attached video.
EDIT : the problem was related to a specific app (crypto.com). I uninstalled it and I no longer have this problem.
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Same here, the crypto. Com app requires the fingerprint and when it does it takes me to the lockscreen, I need the app though and can't uninstall it
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Put the screen brightness to max for a moment and see if the refresh rate goes down to 1 hertz. Please
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The screen never drops below 24hz, even when setting the brightness to maximum.
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The screen never drops below 24hz, even when setting the brightness to maximum.
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Can you try the Galaxy Hz app and check whether we can force display for lower frequency?
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Can you try the Galaxy Hz app and check whether we can force display for lower frequency?
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With the app i can force 10Hz on AOD.
I don't have the premium version, I can only test in AOD
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With the app i can force 10Hz on AOD.
I don't have the premium version, I can only test in AOD
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Thanks! If you feel like trying you might use free 7 day trial
After 24 h. Anyone have/seen a problem with coloring the rounded line after even a slight tilt of the phone? The information there becomes unusable due to illegibility.
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So you know where I'm coming from, I upgraded from a 3a, but so far...?
The fingerprint reader is ace, and works no matter how sweaty my finger might be. No issues at all. It just works.
Screen is great, and far better than the 3a when it comes to colour temp.
Battery is big! From 100% to 15% today, day 2, and I've managed 7.5 hours SOT. That's with YouTube videos, browsing, a few hours of podcasts over Bluetooth.
Tensor is fast. I mean an abacus is fast compared to the 3a, but still, this thing is smooth, and the phone isn't even notably warm https://nox.tips/ https://xender.vip/.
And finally, this thing feels big compared to the 3a, but way more premium. It doesn't feel cheap.
So while there's lots of negative reviews out there from tech reviewers, hopefully you can find balance in the voice of a normal phone user.
Also coming from a 3a (XL though) I agree on how premium this feels (and is) comparatively. The screen is absolutely improved and the SOC is night an day better.
Thats said, FP under the screen sucks....I REALLY wish this still had the rear mount physical sensor. While I havent had the same nightmare stories others have this is no where near as good a FPR as the 3a was.
Battery is less vs my 3a XL but that had a lot bigger batter vs the normal 3a. Heat is a mixed bag, sometimes its unnoticed and sometimes it gets very toasty. Its a lot better now with my current kernel vs stock, but with added power comes added heat.
All in all though, yes depending on what device youre coming from this is a LOT better. This isnt a premium, flagship device and people need to stop comparing it with them. Its also not a cheap Chinese brand with questionable everything. This is the nicest "A" series device Ive seen/used.
had pixel 6a for 2 weeks, coming from a rugged phone with 5800mah battery, so for me pixel6a battery looks ridiculous, sorry google
DJBlaster-303 said:
had pixel 6a for 2 weeks, coming from a rugged phone with 5800mah battery, so for me pixel6a battery looks ridiculous, sorry google
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I've found battery to be mediocre at best. 6-6.5 hrs onscreen over 12 hours or so. Low brightness, just flipping around social media and web and chat. But that is with LTE only, with some or all WiFi would be different story. Deep sleeping fine. Deep sleep drain is pretty crappy as well.
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I've found battery to be mediocre at best. 6-6.5 hrs onscreen over 12 hours or so. Low brightness, just flipping around social media and web and chat. But that is with LTE only, with some or all WiFi would be different story. Deep sleeping fine. Deep sleep drain is pretty crappy as well.
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me with normal use, always 5g with optimal reception, lasted 12h from 100% to 10%. Good point with wifi but I had not the possibility to compare
12 hours on 5g is pretty good with this device stock. Make sure if you havent already, to disable adaptive connectivity, and try LTE vs 5G.
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me with normal use, always 5g with optimal reception, lasted 12h from 100% to 10%. Good point with wifi but I had not the possibility to compare
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Screen on time with 6a? Unbelievable. Wouldn't even come close. All reports, reviews, anecdotal user reports show this isn't possible. I've been testing it thoroughly for last month and definitely impossible.
No screen on time, just my normal phone use, and Google says It lasts 24h, it's not true
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12 hours on 5g is pretty good with this device stock. Make sure if you havent already, to disable adaptive connectivity, and try LTE vs 5G.
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I did, thanks
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No screen on time, just my normal phone use, and Google says It lasts 24h, it's not true
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Ahhh sorry. Didn't mean to sound like a ****. I could have just asked if you meant screen on time. Thanks for confirming. Yeah LTE and WiFi when possible, if screen on/battery drain is important should make a big difference.
Out of the box this is one of the worst devices I've used in a LONG time. However, my old OnePlus 8 (dd) had to go. Just to charge I had to hold the cord at an angle, and quick charge stopped working. Then random reboots and freezes killed me. I could tell the phone was on its last legs. Same glitches regardless on stock/custom. Battery lost a lot of charge in one year.
Either way after trade in I paid $188. It's a sidegrade, which is totally fine. Most CPUs perform about the same outside of benchmarks. Battery and heat are my only complaints. Hopefully the 8a/9a are better because the rectangular shape, and camera visor have really grown on me.
Deep sleep 2 hours. Use 20 minutes, battery down to 83% :/ Honestly it's just terrible. The phone gets hot just flipping around FB. Otherwise it's fine. I'll hang onto it for a year and trade it in for 7a hoping they get these issues solved somewhat. We'll have a clue with 7 and 7 Pro. The heat I can deal with but battery life is weak. That also I can deal with but just disappointing given the device is great otherwise.
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24 hours off the charger with 4h screen on including 50 min of gps, browsing, YouTube, and some music streaming. Battery down to 43% which is acceptable for my needs.
Have found that PIA VPN was burning huge amount of battery... Much better battery life without it. Looking at about 8 hours onscreen over a 20 hours with LTE.