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I'm torn between all these choices. Please tell me what you're using and why.
Make sure to mention battery life, performance, and useful features please.
Also, how does the rom mount the sd internal and external sd? Stock - as in there's a folder called _ExternalSD, or like how CM7 does it, using External as primary and having the emmc folder as secondary?
Trigger 2x...because I can make my clock blue to match my Steel Blue CM7 theme, lol. No, seriously...that's why.
Plain CM7 rom. The ability to have a relatively stock look, hide the clock and change the battery indicator to a percentage rather than just an icon.
I used to use Bionix2, but it still suffered instability issues (random reboots) etc.
Only complaint between both roms is that the pictures in my contact screen have a small little white bar underneath with thre little suqare dots which kind of irritates me.
I dislike the market that comes with CM7, but it seems that's the new stock look. (Which blows.)
I prioritize customization and battery life, and this rom gives me both.
CM7 -- Most stable and stock looking. I also like the fact that everything is customizable and nothing looks "cheap". Also battery life is important to me. If a rom drains my battery it's pretty much nixed.
I use CM7 because it just works great.
However I've been liking MIUI. I have Nandroids of both that I flip back and forth, and update where possible. So I have 2 current builds of Miui and CM7 that I run.
MIUI isn't quite where it needs to be for a final daily driver but with that I had, I made it work. The downfall was APN Cell data was hit or miss requiring resets, it would get blazing hot, the battery drain was horrible. I did 3 full charges through the day just to get by (morning wake up, around 2pm, around 7pm, then bed). I was hammering it though but shouldn't drain that bad. I did install a MIUI Digital Clock Widget which I'm thinking is causing the extra battery drain. Next time I boot into it I'll remove it and see where it gets me.
MIUI is ascetically pleasing to the eye. It is very pretty and fun to use. I love the dialer and the big icons and the Settings menu colors.
MIUI is based off CM7 so eventually it will be ironed out where it is just as stable but until then it is just my play OS.
I have just found out that I can replace Launcher Pro with Go Launcher or ADW EX finally because I found a LP Widget replacement called "Colorized Widgets". They work and feel just like the LP versions but work on GO and ADW.
So now I'm running CM7 with the Captivated theme, GO Launcher with a "Blue Theme" that has iPhone/MIUI icons and a glass look, and Colorized Widgets with the "Transparent" theme.
MIUI, I'm running Stock Launcher, Colorized Widgets, iTap Keyboard (iPhone themed Gingerbread keyboard).
Nice Setup.
So everyone using CM7 are you using RC1 or nightlies? Is there even a big difference? Would it be worth it to do the nightlies?
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I use CM7 because it just works great.
However I've been liking MIUI. I have Nandroids of both that I flip back and forth, and update where possible. So I have 2 current builds of Miui and CM7 that I run.
MIUI isn't quite where it needs to be for a final daily driver but with that I had, I made it work. The downfall was APN Cell data was hit or miss requiring resets, it would get blazing hot, the battery drain was horrible. I did 3 full charges through the day just to get by (morning wake up, around 2pm, around 7pm, then bed). I was hammering it though but shouldn't drain that bad. I did install a MIUI Digital Clock Widget which I'm thinking is causing the extra battery drain. Next time I boot into it I'll remove it and see where it gets me.
MIUI is ascetically pleasing to the eye. It is very pretty and fun to use. I love the dialer and the big icons and the Settings menu colors.
MIUI is based off CM7 so eventually it will be ironed out where it is just as stable but until then it is just my play OS.
I have just found out that I can replace Launcher Pro with Go Launcher or ADW EX finally because I found a LP Widget replacement called "Colorized Widgets". They work and feel just like the LP versions but work on GO and ADW.
So now I'm running CM7 with the Captivated theme, GO Launcher with a "Blue Theme" that has iPhone/MIUI icons and a glass look, and Colorized Widgets with the "Transparent" theme.
MIUI, I'm running Stock Launcher, Colorized Widgets, iTap Keyboard (iPhone themed Gingerbread keyboard).
Nice Setup.
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Damn, you should setup my g2x! Lol I'm using miui, stock with faux kernel and xboarders rom ...I also switch between all three...miui is my favorite to play with, stock is the best for GPS, xboarders has bits of cm7 and stock...so basically im loving my g2x, even with all its bugs!
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... MIUI is based off CM7 so ...
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Really?
You sure about that?
I always thought that MIUI was custom done by some Chinese developers?
Flashing each stock CM7 nightly has been incredibly stable for me and the battery usage for the past couple of weeks has been amazing. Then again, I'm not overly hard on my phone by using the screen a lot like some folks do, I'm more prone to using my Transformer for gaming and general web browsing than I am my phone. I've never had any major bugs on CM7, but most of the general bugs that people complain about being on the phone are also completely foreign to me. I've also never used a fully stock G2x rom, my phone was shipped to me by another XDA user with a custom rom based on the GB release that I replaced with CM7 within a day or two, so my experience with with stock issues is absolutely non-existent.
I use CM7 because it was far less buggy than every other rom I tried in the dev section, and I used an iPhone against my will for almost a month, so MIUI is hideous to me by now aside from the bugs it still has. My first Android device was a first week release G1 and I still love stock Android. I've never been a fan of most of the UI overlays that vendors make (althogh the newer Sense is nice and some of the Touchwiz for 3.0 features are tempting) and I prefer to be allowed the choice of what I want my phone to look like. CM7 is the most stock rom I've seen that's also very stable. Also, I enjoy reading the CM changelogs. I'm trying to relearn how to code again and the diffs that the CM changelogs give are very enlightening and enjoyable to read.
I usually keep my phone underclocked a bit to 800Mhz max and screen off is underclocked quite a bit more. When I'm at home I leave data off and WiFi on (goes to sleep when the screen is off) and the battery can last for almost 3 days that way without hardly moving at all. When on data I get 8-20 hours or more depending on how much I'm traveling (switching towers drains battery) and how much I have the screen on. On full blast the shortest I've had the battery run was 4-6 hours of playing a game like Zenonia 3 without stopping. Using WiFi tethering the battery usually lasts 4-8 hours depending on how much I tax the phone's modem. Even underclocked the phone performs exceptionally well and I've never had any slowdowns during games or programs. I haven't had to reboot my phone, pull the battery, any random reboots or shutdowns, no APN issues, anything. Then again, I do reboot my phone every time a nightly is released which can be several days in a row or a lull for a few days at a time. I haven't had much luck running custom kernels but I haven't tried much other than faux's UV kernel so that's not much to go on. The stock CM7 kernel is just too stable for me for me to feel like changing it much.
I can only say that now that an official 2.3 release is out for this phone that roms will only get more interesting and hopefully more stable than they already are.. It already seems that there is a glut of developer interest in this device. Just one look in the development subforum shows the better part of a dozen choices in roms and much more activity than many places I've visited on XDA for a while.
I used CM7 if I had a second G2X to put other roms on.
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Cm7 nightlies ftw..... Mounts to emmc bit men don't bother me... stable rom and good battery life..
Eagle blood 2.3.5. The most stable and coolest one I've tried.
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Really?
You sure about that?
I always thought that MIUI was custom done by some Chinese developers?
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Yes, it's 100% based off cm7 source. (If you don't believe me, go to their forums, and look. Right now they are caught up to about nightly 85 I believe.)
JaiaV said:
Flashing each stock CM7 nightly has been incredibly stable for me and the battery usage for the past couple of weeks has been amazing. Then again, I'm not overly hard on my phone by using the screen a lot like some folks do, I'm more prone to using my Transformer for gaming and general web browsing than I am my phone. I've never had any major bugs on CM7, but most of the general bugs that people complain about being on the phone are also completely foreign to me. I've also never used a fully stock G2x rom, my phone was shipped to me by another XDA user with a custom rom based on the GB release that I replaced with CM7 within a day or two, so my experience with with stock issues is absolutely non-existent.
I use CM7 because it was far less buggy than every other rom I tried in the dev section, and I used an iPhone against my will for almost a month, so MIUI is hideous to me by now aside from the bugs it still has. My first Android device was a first week release G1 and I still love stock Android. I've never been a fan of most of the UI overlays that vendors make (althogh the newer Sense is nice and some of the Touchwiz for 3.0 features are tempting) and I prefer to be allowed the choice of what I want my phone to look like. CM7 is the most stock rom I've seen that's also very stable. Also, I enjoy reading the CM changelogs. I'm trying to relearn how to code again and the diffs that the CM changelogs give are very enlightening and enjoyable to read.
I usually keep my phone underclocked a bit to 800Mhz max and screen off is underclocked quite a bit more. When I'm at home I leave data off and WiFi on (goes to sleep when the screen is off) and the battery can last for almost 3 days that way without hardly moving at all. When on data I get 8-20 hours or more depending on how much I'm traveling (switching towers drains battery) and how much I have the screen on. On full blast the shortest I've had the battery run was 4-6 hours of playing a game like Zenonia 3 without stopping. Using WiFi tethering the battery usually lasts 4-8 hours depending on how much I tax the phone's modem. Even underclocked the phone performs exceptionally well and I've never had any slowdowns during games or programs. I haven't had to reboot my phone, pull the battery, any random reboots or shutdowns, no APN issues, anything. Then again, I do reboot my phone every time a nightly is released which can be several days in a row or a lull for a few days at a time. I haven't had much luck running custom kernels but I haven't tried much other than faux's UV kernel so that's not much to go on. The stock CM7 kernel is just too stable for me for me to feel like changing it much.
I can only say that now that an official 2.3 release is out for this phone that roms will only get more interesting and hopefully more stable than they already are.. It already seems that there is a glut of developer interest in this device. Just one look in the development subforum shows the better part of a dozen choices in roms and much more activity than many places I've visited on XDA for a while.
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Wow, that was very detailed! Thanks. Quick question, what are some main advantages of the nightlies vs RC1?
EaglesBlood CM7 + Faux's OC/UV kernel + launcherpro
it's fast, it's stable, has the notification power widget, runs netflix.. nothing more i could ask for
except maybe the LG cam.. but either that or the notification widget.. i chose the widget
E: from the post above I underclocked it to 800mhz.. will see how much battery life i get so far no noticeable slowdown
Trigger 2x
It's been the most stable and feature full experience on my G2x. I've been using it since build 11, I just flashed build 14, and am loving it.
MIUI/cm7 practically the same, love all the features.
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Wow, that was very detailed! Thanks. Quick question, what are some main advantages of the nightlies vs RC1?
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The nightlies are more up to date and actually more stable than the RC. I'm running 93 right now and it's been going smooth all night.
I'm still rockin froyo with Fauxs kernel on ultimate rom.
Those plus adw launcher equal silk. Lol
I would go with GB but im gonna wait a while till all this baseband and camera app get ported by the guru's. Still can't believe they dumbed down the functionality of the camera on an update lol
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Xboarders 2.3.3 tweaked because I like everything to work... cough.a2dp.cough
And the guy updates like a madman
Runs like hot knife thru butter and battery life is about 17 hrs
I follow the development thread every now and again. Recently so much stuff has sprung up i am confused. Reading it tells me so much and I don't want to install every single one to find out properly.
I currently have
[ROM]MiuiXt_Final_V2 optimize english pack (update 29/6/2011)
which is pretty good.
But now there is Wanhus, CyanogenMod variations, XDA special?
Whats the difference, whats the most improved one? Help!
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I follow the development thread every now and again. Recently so much stuff has sprung up i am confused. Reading it tells me so much and I don't want to install every single one to find out properly.
I currently have
[ROM]MiuiXt_Final_V2 optimize english pack (update 29/6/2011)
which is pretty good.
But now there is Wanhus, CyanogenMod variations, XDA special?
Whats the difference, whats the most improved one? Help!
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The Wanhu and Special are similar but different. The Special is the way to go (but not yet b/c Hellmonger is working on the stuck at M problem). Wanhu with MZ patch works very well according to Libertymonger. CM6 is also very good-customizable, but it is still in development and may not be what you are looking for quite yet.
My suggestion is to go to front page of all three and see specs and what you want out of them. Most of us can't really stay on a ROM for more than a week anyways, so we are constantly flashing over and over to tweak this or mess with that.
Good Luck and always make back ups.
If I had to choose between any of the 2.2 ROMs it'd have to be WanHU stock, no patches. But I have to say my priorities have changed a lil after trying out each and every ROM. Stability issues have bothered me alot with most of the ROM's and I found coming from the 2.1 signapore SBF with Wanhu over it was the most stable. Not to mention the stock look, improved battery life and overall functionality. But people's tastes might be different. The special is based on WanHU with alot of customizations, from the theme to the inner workings of the ROM, and it is still in developement so there are some boot problems. Also people don't like the korean number format which is fixed in the special. CM6 is pretty cool too, loads of customizations right from the settings but its not without its problems, eg the stock google camera app doesnt take pictures at full resolution and there are also other tiny bugs here and there. I'd say try the special, or wanhu and watch the CM6 development.
I actually don't know when I will be content with the version of ROM on my phone. Theres always new ROMS released for any phones, and I always have an urge to update it to the latest. I think its becoming an obsession almost.
as a guideline, I wouldn't recommend any 2.3 roms from experience. I don't think our phones have the overall capacity and stability for 2.3.
And its also true about the battery life. 2.2 seems to drain battery on my phone faster.
Khalpowers WanHU
I would have to say for now, until Hellmonger releases his Special Hellmonger edition, Khalpower's WhanHU steelblue is the best, Very Very stable, ram is very stable between 50-85 constant, and when you kill apps it holds steady instead of just dropping again. Only downfall with it is 20% battery increments(being worked on) and phone number format( also may be fixed). If we didn't have Hellmongers Special after it is made stable, Khal's would be my choice for now. It is fully functional with fm radio and tv out and whatever else. I think Hellmonger's mod's to it is more to do with the whole phone like camera and recording and things too maybe. I know CM6 is super super fast but khal's is fast enough for me plus can handle the games and things. I will take fast and functionality over superfast with half functionality. My 2 cents! stick it in yo pocket or cash it in! lol
The CM6 rom is a potential rom to be the best... However there are several issues to fix like the camera/camcorder application(8mp/hd recording), FM etc....
As of now, I'm using the original Wanhu stock rom with the latest update from Mioze, Dark Froyo Theme and ADW-Ex launcher... overclock at 1200 MHz, 75 vsel, this rom rocks..... very fast and snappy.
After been useing cm6 its the best.
No memory leaks.
Its very compatiable with ardoidiani openrecovery.
You have reboot the phone everyday.
It blazing fast.
No radio support who cares its a crapy radio any way.
I have test them all and CM6 is by far the best.
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Cm6 is very competent in my opinion. Was on miui before this and I must say cm6 has beaten our miui rom in stability and speed. With stability I mean the general absense of force closes and reboots.
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I'm looking for the exact same answer and I thinking I leaning towards the stock roms.
Because most of those I have tried proved to be unstable at some point. One made my camera lose some features, the other made the fm radio stop working altogether.
And finally the last I've tried couldn't run Skype well, it would crash misteriously. Now I'm back to the stock rom, only this time is rooted and a newer version. So far so good, happy to have a stable phone again. I get enough headaches and crashes from my laptop and pc.
CM6.
My reason its the best.
1. Have not had reboot fot five days.
2.you can under clock it to 650 and fast as hell.
3. Memory avg aound 70 but it can go high 110 i have had this high.
4. When under clock much better battery life.
5. The most staible rom i have used on xt720.
Many more reason picking this rom.
You need to use ardoidiani openrecovery with cm6.
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That's weird.. I don't overclock cm6 and it runs smooth at default 720 mhz. I then overclock it to 1 ghz, and back to 720 mhz, and its sluggish. I cannot imagine running it lower than 720. Not to mention by average free memory has gone down since i installed it a week ago. Average was 70-80, now its like: 20-30. I use autokiller memory optomizer and advanced task killer, but it still stays at 20-30 free mbs.
On the brighter side, battery seems to be extended a couple of hours for me on this rom. I can get 2+hours of phone call, texting all day, and some web surfing and game playing in for about 14 hours and have 20% battery left. It has yet to crash and restart, and I love the themes. It is really fast for me at 1 ghz. This is all updated over top the Cincinnati Bell froyo 2.2 "update".
I dont use minifree or any taskmanagers their a wast of memory.
I manage program memory through ardroidiani openrecovery.
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I also agree that CM6 is the best. I only have reboots every few days. FM radio and Camera as well are things I can live without.
so its between wanhu and CM6.. interesting, no-one has the miui rom as their top choice....i really like the sync, brigtness, data, gps switching on the fly on the notification bar.
Do wanhu or cm6 have this features? saves space and reduces amount of widgets needed. Also anyone know if MIUI has a push messaging problem?
IronMit said:
i really like the sync, brigtness, data, gps switching on the fly on the notification bar.
Do wanhu or cm6 have this features?
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CM6 has this. You can select/choose from up to 6 buttons in CM settings.
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I also agree that CM6 is the best. I only have reboots every few days. FM radio and Camera as well are things I can live without.
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jus when i thought cm6 was going to be perfect for me...cm6 has a camera limitation?
what is it?
Miui's camera seems faster and less memory hungry that moto stock so thats a big plus for me
I had [ROM]MiuiXt_Final_V2 optimize english pack (update 29/6/2011) (my favorite)
Yestarday I installed Wanhus but I had problems with my signal, APN, etc. It is so fast, but I prefer SteelEpicBlue V4.
Today I'm gonna try with CM6.
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jus when i thought cm6 was going to be perfect for me...cm6 has a camera limitation?
what is it?
Miui's camera seems faster and less memory hungry that moto stock so thats a big plus for me
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Some things about camera on CM6: the menu that pops up for setting preferences (the top most of the six icons) actually scrolls, but it's impossible to have known that because it doesn't look like that at all. Also, milaq's CM 6.3.0 has updates to the camera--6.3.0 for XT720 should be out today or tomorrow depending on how testing goes this evening (it's built and sitting on my disk ). Mostly the CM camera doesn't offer to crop images to widescreen format by chopping off the top and bottom--so people expecting 8MP to be widescreen maybe get confused (I haven't tested this yet because of the camera updates that are in 6.3.0).
The other somewhat hassle with CM6 at the moment is that video playback isn't on par with WanHu/XDAspecial yet. Software decoding works as a workaround to playback some files, but WanHu/XDAspecial seems to be the media king. I also don't think HDMI output works yet on CM6, but it supposedly works well on WanHu/XDAspecial.
I agree with mchlbenner on the pluses of CM6 having tested Dexter 1.3, MIUI V2-V4, WanHu and the Cincinati Bell Froyo.I personally find that CM6 has the least Forced close and reboots and better power consumption of the ROMS I have tried.
IMHO, I reckon we cannot expect these modded ROMS to be 100% perfect since it is the work of the community as there will always be some small lingering issues - just try all the ROMS and then decide which ones suit your needs the best or closest.
haha jus as i was about to flash cm6 ..the final xda special hellmonger has been released...spoilt for choice again!
I have a feeling i might spend the whole day just flashing roms
I have S7 right now. If anyone has switched, or used both, if you could answer the following...
-Battery Life, how does it compare between the two?
-Smoothness, once again, how does it compare? I normally run 1.4Ghz OC, so I know that might help butter things up.
-Stability, any problems besides the no sound first call? It seems to be getting updated regularly, which is awesome.
That's all for now
Dlev is the best
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Dlev is the best
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... Can you expand on that at all? The OP had three specific questions and you didn't answer any. You just stated your opinion and who knows if you've even tried Serendipity to compare the two.
I really liked S7 but it just decided one day that it was not gonna work. Everything started force closing. So I moved to CM7 but it was good. As for Dlev I didn't like the looks of it. So I was on it like maybe 1 hour or so didn't have issue with in that hour.
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I've been on both and I like things about both.
S7 - Good battery life, great stability, great performance..
--It is outdated, sometimes has the battery drain bug.
Dlev - Excellent battery life, like the theme, great stability, is sometimes "choppy", is newer version the S7.
--The developer is active and fixing problems.
If S7 was 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 JVT/JVT it would definitely be my choice of ROM.
I would go for DLEV since it's 2.3.4 and doesn't have the battery drain bug, and has a lot of great features.
MIUI ftw...much better in my opinion. Battery life can be tweaked with setCPU settings so that pretty much fixes that...only issue is that 3d in rendered like 10000000000 times slower so games WILL lag A LOT. other than that...every other category you can think of is A+. Unbeatable in smoothness,theme management and eye candy. It is stable too I have not encountered any situations where it got unstable unless u overclock it to 1600 at 1600mV! That will kill it right away, but yeah...MIUI rocks. One more thing i dont like is that it like half the themes are chinese and there is no AOSP theme all of them have wierdo icons and stuff so that is pretty much really annoying.
Only problem for me is usb connectivity. Tried it without debugging on and all I got was a kies screen with no recognition from my pc (win7). With debugging on it just goes to a charge. I'm gonna play around with it some more, but everything else is super clean and smooth.
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MIUI ftw...much better in my opinion. Battery life can be tweaked with setCPU settings so that pretty much fixes that...only issue is that 3d in rendered like 10000000000 times slower so games WILL lag A LOT. other than that...every other category you can think of is A+. Unbeatable in smoothness,theme management and eye candy. It is stable too I have not encountered any situations where it got unstable unless u overclock it to 1600 at 1600mV! That will kill it right away, but yeah...MIUI rocks. One more thing i dont like is that it like half the themes are chinese and there is no AOSP theme all of them have wierdo icons and stuff so that is pretty much really annoying.
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I don't want MIUI on account of the bluetooth issue, and I play games so there is that too. But thank you for the suggestion.
Anyone else on S7 vs. Dlev?
Mohammad_Adib said:
MIUI ftw...much better in my opinion. Battery life can be tweaked with setCPU settings so that pretty much fixes that...only issue is that 3d in rendered like 10000000000 times slower so games WILL lag A LOT. other than that...every other category you can think of is A+. Unbeatable in smoothness,theme management and eye candy. It is stable too I have not encountered any situations where it got unstable unless u overclock it to 1600 at 1600mV! That will kill it right away, but yeah...MIUI rocks. One more thing i dont like is that it like half the themes are chinese and there is no AOSP theme all of them have wierdo icons and stuff so that is pretty much really annoying.
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This guy ^^ really loves his MIUI lol but yes I've had both...Dlev, didn't like the theme of it and for some reason was choppy every other boot or so, and had data issues, got tired of it and flashed S7 and haven't changed since. Great battery, stability, speed, only negative is its still 2.3.3, not really a big deal for me.
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I have S7 right now. If anyone has switched, or used both, if you could answer the following...
-Battery Life, how does it compare between the two?
-Smoothness, once again, how does it compare? I normally run 1.4Ghz OC, so I know that might help butter things up.
-Stability, any problems besides the no sound first call? It seems to be getting updated regularly, which is awesome.
That's all for now
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I came from S7 to Dlev about a week ago. I had HUGE battery drain problems with S7 that weren't being fixed with a reboot, or uninstalling apps. I've been extremely happy with Dlev, paired with the Daily Driver kernel the battery life is very good, and the kernel makes charging faster. I have had no stability problems with the new update, I had some problems with the first one and the Touch Wiz launcher (fixed with a re-install). The new version has Go Launcher EX installed, which is an excellent theme-able launcher with lots of eye candy tweaks. Smoothness even at stock speed with all animations is good, would be even better if overclocked.
Dlev is the best for me, which has been running great all the time. I have not tried CM7, but since Dlev is actually based off of the captivate (very like the Infuse if you did not know), which seems like it would work better with the Fuse. Ha Mohammad_Adib knows I like it so much this from Android Forums ha. I would probably be running Infused though, because I just like the feel of running a rom that is actually meant for the Infuse, but with no updates for now I just have nothing to look forward to on that rom, where Dlev may just be my fav now.
First off, I apologize if this the wrong spot. First thread and this category seemed appropriate. Now the main question. My PACman ROM I really love but the battery life is horrendous! I really like the ultimate customization but honestly the battery life is irritating. Now I want to switch to Viper. I was also planning to flash a custom kernel. ElementalX I believe it's called. Now I need help if I should switch. Many thanks!
EDIT 1: I installed Viper, it ran smoothly, but what I like to call "self plug-ins" are way to much from Venom. They have to many Venom/Viper apps and they are probably useless. So uninstalled and hopefully I'll research more of the tweaks for a better experience next time.
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First off, I apologize if this the wrong spot. First thread and this category seemed appropriate. Now the main question. My PACman ROM I really love but the battery life is horrendous! I really like the ultimate customization but honestly the battery life is irritating. Now I want to switch to Viper. I was also planning to flash a custom kernel. ElementalX I believe it's called. Now I need help if I should switch. Many thanks!
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I haven't used PACman, but I'm a huge fan of CM10 (not 10.1 for me yet).
I used ViperOneS for about 7 months and enjoyed it, but it definitely still felt a little bloated (and that was using a custom kernel with the system overclocked and undervolted). The customization was nice, it had few bugs, and the sense camera is hard to beat. I have limited experience with Viper 2.0 - so someone else may need to chime in about it specifically. I used the de-Sensed installer and it still felt slightly bloated.
CM10 is a much cleaner experience in my opinion. Even without a custom kernel that has the chip overclocked, the ROM runs much more smoothly. It is nearly a perfect ROM except for the camera. It's not bad, but it's definitely nowhere near as good as Sense. I would also say that CM is more stable than Viper, but only slightly so.
It really comes down to what you value.
@ OP, what do you expect from this question? There are people who say Viper is great (including me) and others who will say it isn't worth it to switch. Just try and flash and see for yourself to get the best inside info about this ROM. After that you can tell us if it was worth it
Nit trying to be rude or something, but if you got a battery drain problem, then its probably not the ROM(although I use JellyBAM - not from xda), but something else. I used pacman in the past, and it was similar to Stoxk sense, or maybe a little better. Try a clean install, and try not to restore any settings. If battery life still isn't right, then its probably an app behaving poorly.
Boes40 said:
@ OP, what do you expect from this question? There are people who say Viper is great (including me) and others who will say it isn't worth it to switch. Just try and flash and see for yourself to get the best inside info about this ROM. After that you can tell us if it was worth it
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I'm just looking for a better battery life, smooth performance, and a just an overall easy experience. I'm used to Jellybean ROMs the most, so sense type are kinda new for me.
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Nit trying to be rude or something, but if you got a battery drain problem, then its probably not the ROM(although I use JellyBAM - not from xda), but something else. I used pacman in the past, and it was similar to Stoxk sense, or maybe a little better. Try a clean install, and try not to restore any settings. If battery life still isn't right, then its probably an app behaving poorly.
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I've done so many reinstalls. Maybe in the past week I'll say 10. I played the pretty CPU and GPU demanding game ago. But I haven't played in awhile and it's not running.
Hi all
i had my OPO for 2 months now
and i decided to root my phone and try some custom ROMs and kernels since they're so popular , so last month i rooted my phone and take a spin on those famous ROMs and kernels ( partly is also the touchscreen issue and random reboots are driving me nuts ) i won't specify what ROM or kernel i am using though
first impressions when i had a new ROMs is that , there's nothing much that is different i though things would be faster snappier with a new kernel built in but ...my OPO did not , my phone did get more stable but it did suffer from multigesture issue once and force rebooted 3 times in the span of 1 month , but the biggest issue is that my phone keeps getting systemui has stopped working , multitasking button gets bugged one too many times , wallpapers constantly missing when i unlock my phone and animations are very clunky
so yesterday i decided to go back to stock just to remind myself how stock feels , using NANdroid backup i restored everything and...
stock 44s feels so much better compared to custom ROMs which begs the question
why do people deviate from stock ROM on OPO ? stock cm is pretty sweet , I understand rooting the phone to get xposed etc but custom ROMs just don't feel right on the OPO ...so is it just me ?
still props to all the devs out there , no offense just my 2 cents
I think if varies for the phones and locations, but I was getting some pretty beastly battery life, smooth/fast experience with vanir and Franco. For some reason I just didn't like stock and was not getting as great battery life. I've tried many things and some are good, but there are better (to me at least). I'm just running Lollipop now and can't seem to go back to kk.
It all comes down to ones preference really...
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wait , isn't cm12 for OPO currently a little unstable? i really wanted to give it a shot but i fear that it is too unstable for a daily driver
Working fine for me; I don't think it is to the point where it can't be a daily driver. I'm really liking it so far, the Lollipop experience feels really nice and smooth.
Check comments from others on the threads to see the kind of issues they're having. Devs are doing daily builds so as days pass it gets better and better.
Sent from bacon with lollipop!
tohno said:
Hi all
i had my OPO for 2 months now
and i decided to root my phone and try some custom ROMs and kernels since they're so popular , so last month i rooted my phone and take a spin on those famous ROMs and kernels ( partly is also the touchscreen issue and random reboots are driving me nuts ) i won't specify what ROM or kernel i am using though
first impressions when i had a new ROMs is that , there's nothing much that is different i though things would be faster snappier with a new kernel built in but ...my OPO did not , my phone did get more stable but it did suffer from multigesture issue once and force rebooted 3 times in the span of 1 month , but the biggest issue is that my phone keeps getting systemui has stopped working , multitasking button gets bugged one too many times , wallpapers constantly missing when i unlock my phone and animations are very clunky
so yesterday i decided to go back to stock just to remind myself how stock feels , using NANdroid backup i restored everything and...
stock 44s feels so much better compared to custom ROMs which begs the question
why do people deviate from stock ROM on OPO ? stock cm is pretty sweet , I understand rooting the phone to get xposed etc but custom ROMs just don't feel right on the OPO ...so is it just me ?
still props to all the devs out there , no offense just my 2 cents
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Sounds like you didn't do any kernel configurations at all to experience changes.
On AK, with Synapse and UKM, you can change numerical values to configure how the phone handles processes. Default kernel settings aren't optimum for every phone.
My settings consist of: slim (300-2457), CPU boost driver (10ms, 1574MHz, 30ms, 1190MHz), CPU Volt (-35mV), I/O sio @ 1536KB read ahead, drop caches, laptop mode, Vibrator at 25, Fast Charge at 1500mA, C1 (Retention) disabled, 120 second Wifi Scan interval.
With those settings, it makes a HUGE difference compared to stock, as well as fix bugs (screen artifact/tearing) before they were fixed on the latest firmware, and increases battery life by 1.5 times stock.
tohno said:
Hi all
why do people deviate from stock ROM on OPO ? stock cm is pretty sweet , I understand rooting the phone to get xposed etc but custom ROMs just don't feel right on the OPO ...so is it just me ?
still props to all the devs out there , no offense just my 2 cents
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I have the same questioning but without any problems that you had/have/ My phone works perfectly ( crossing fingers ) and i've had it since July. I always used to ROM my S3-S4-S5 to get a new feel of the phone, but with the Oppo i don't see the reason to. Maybe it's because CM is pretty near pure stock Android, and that's what we get when we switch ROMs on big brands.
tohno said:
Hi all
i had my OPO for 2 months now
why do people deviate from stock ROM on OPO ? stock cm is pretty sweet , I understand rooting the phone to get xposed etc but custom ROMs just don't feel right on the OPO ...so is it just me ?
still props to all the devs out there , no offense just my 2 cents
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OP, it is not just you. Folks who mess about with custom ROMS, as the other posts here share, do so because they can customize the total phone experience, leaving things off, and putting other items on, to their liking. Giving that the background OS is stable, and the apps a person selects are stable, there should be little to no difference in 'performance', overall, due to the apps. However, you may get performance differences because there are less TSR's currently running in your system, so more memory is available, etc, which can make mainline apps run faster.
So many reasons to do custom apps.
As you said, and I agree, CM is a nice, generally smooth OS/ROM. I am coming from an LG G3, which I like very much, but to customize (remove all the junk), and fine tune (remove Google calling home = less battery live, etc), it take's some time to setup those conditions. With CM, most of the junk is not present at the onset (AT&T largely). Much more clean. I would like Google to be disassociated from CM completely, so that it is an add on only, providing better control of the base CM. I would like this in an official CM ROM/official variation.
That is the reason I have/am switching over to the OnePlus. I have tried a few custom ROMs as well, and the stock CM seems to have the best stability, reliability and consistency, to date. I suspect that will change when a large update comes out, such as L, and a great amount of energy goes into that development. I just changed from 38 to 44 last night on three OPO's. It took 5 minutes, or so, a piece, and all of the data/previous apps, setup etc, stayed with the updates, making for an all too easy update.
Awesome. Next will be "L". I will wait for the CM official, as that will likely be the most stable, as I suspect it is getting the most attention from the CM team, at this time. CM is a pretty nice OS.