I follow the development thread every now and again. Recently so much stuff has sprung up i am confused. Reading it tells me so much and I don't want to install every single one to find out properly.
I currently have
[ROM]MiuiXt_Final_V2 optimize english pack (update 29/6/2011)
which is pretty good.
But now there is Wanhus, CyanogenMod variations, XDA special?
Whats the difference, whats the most improved one? Help!
IronMit said:
I follow the development thread every now and again. Recently so much stuff has sprung up i am confused. Reading it tells me so much and I don't want to install every single one to find out properly.
I currently have
[ROM]MiuiXt_Final_V2 optimize english pack (update 29/6/2011)
which is pretty good.
But now there is Wanhus, CyanogenMod variations, XDA special?
Whats the difference, whats the most improved one? Help!
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The Wanhu and Special are similar but different. The Special is the way to go (but not yet b/c Hellmonger is working on the stuck at M problem). Wanhu with MZ patch works very well according to Libertymonger. CM6 is also very good-customizable, but it is still in development and may not be what you are looking for quite yet.
My suggestion is to go to front page of all three and see specs and what you want out of them. Most of us can't really stay on a ROM for more than a week anyways, so we are constantly flashing over and over to tweak this or mess with that.
Good Luck and always make back ups.
If I had to choose between any of the 2.2 ROMs it'd have to be WanHU stock, no patches. But I have to say my priorities have changed a lil after trying out each and every ROM. Stability issues have bothered me alot with most of the ROM's and I found coming from the 2.1 signapore SBF with Wanhu over it was the most stable. Not to mention the stock look, improved battery life and overall functionality. But people's tastes might be different. The special is based on WanHU with alot of customizations, from the theme to the inner workings of the ROM, and it is still in developement so there are some boot problems. Also people don't like the korean number format which is fixed in the special. CM6 is pretty cool too, loads of customizations right from the settings but its not without its problems, eg the stock google camera app doesnt take pictures at full resolution and there are also other tiny bugs here and there. I'd say try the special, or wanhu and watch the CM6 development.
I actually don't know when I will be content with the version of ROM on my phone. Theres always new ROMS released for any phones, and I always have an urge to update it to the latest. I think its becoming an obsession almost.
as a guideline, I wouldn't recommend any 2.3 roms from experience. I don't think our phones have the overall capacity and stability for 2.3.
And its also true about the battery life. 2.2 seems to drain battery on my phone faster.
Khalpowers WanHU
I would have to say for now, until Hellmonger releases his Special Hellmonger edition, Khalpower's WhanHU steelblue is the best, Very Very stable, ram is very stable between 50-85 constant, and when you kill apps it holds steady instead of just dropping again. Only downfall with it is 20% battery increments(being worked on) and phone number format( also may be fixed). If we didn't have Hellmongers Special after it is made stable, Khal's would be my choice for now. It is fully functional with fm radio and tv out and whatever else. I think Hellmonger's mod's to it is more to do with the whole phone like camera and recording and things too maybe. I know CM6 is super super fast but khal's is fast enough for me plus can handle the games and things. I will take fast and functionality over superfast with half functionality. My 2 cents! stick it in yo pocket or cash it in! lol
The CM6 rom is a potential rom to be the best... However there are several issues to fix like the camera/camcorder application(8mp/hd recording), FM etc....
As of now, I'm using the original Wanhu stock rom with the latest update from Mioze, Dark Froyo Theme and ADW-Ex launcher... overclock at 1200 MHz, 75 vsel, this rom rocks..... very fast and snappy.
After been useing cm6 its the best.
No memory leaks.
Its very compatiable with ardoidiani openrecovery.
You have reboot the phone everyday.
It blazing fast.
No radio support who cares its a crapy radio any way.
I have test them all and CM6 is by far the best.
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Cm6 is very competent in my opinion. Was on miui before this and I must say cm6 has beaten our miui rom in stability and speed. With stability I mean the general absense of force closes and reboots.
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I'm looking for the exact same answer and I thinking I leaning towards the stock roms.
Because most of those I have tried proved to be unstable at some point. One made my camera lose some features, the other made the fm radio stop working altogether.
And finally the last I've tried couldn't run Skype well, it would crash misteriously. Now I'm back to the stock rom, only this time is rooted and a newer version. So far so good, happy to have a stable phone again. I get enough headaches and crashes from my laptop and pc.
CM6.
My reason its the best.
1. Have not had reboot fot five days.
2.you can under clock it to 650 and fast as hell.
3. Memory avg aound 70 but it can go high 110 i have had this high.
4. When under clock much better battery life.
5. The most staible rom i have used on xt720.
Many more reason picking this rom.
You need to use ardoidiani openrecovery with cm6.
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That's weird.. I don't overclock cm6 and it runs smooth at default 720 mhz. I then overclock it to 1 ghz, and back to 720 mhz, and its sluggish. I cannot imagine running it lower than 720. Not to mention by average free memory has gone down since i installed it a week ago. Average was 70-80, now its like: 20-30. I use autokiller memory optomizer and advanced task killer, but it still stays at 20-30 free mbs.
On the brighter side, battery seems to be extended a couple of hours for me on this rom. I can get 2+hours of phone call, texting all day, and some web surfing and game playing in for about 14 hours and have 20% battery left. It has yet to crash and restart, and I love the themes. It is really fast for me at 1 ghz. This is all updated over top the Cincinnati Bell froyo 2.2 "update".
I dont use minifree or any taskmanagers their a wast of memory.
I manage program memory through ardroidiani openrecovery.
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I also agree that CM6 is the best. I only have reboots every few days. FM radio and Camera as well are things I can live without.
so its between wanhu and CM6.. interesting, no-one has the miui rom as their top choice....i really like the sync, brigtness, data, gps switching on the fly on the notification bar.
Do wanhu or cm6 have this features? saves space and reduces amount of widgets needed. Also anyone know if MIUI has a push messaging problem?
IronMit said:
i really like the sync, brigtness, data, gps switching on the fly on the notification bar.
Do wanhu or cm6 have this features?
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CM6 has this. You can select/choose from up to 6 buttons in CM settings.
firzen_net said:
I also agree that CM6 is the best. I only have reboots every few days. FM radio and Camera as well are things I can live without.
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jus when i thought cm6 was going to be perfect for me...cm6 has a camera limitation?
what is it?
Miui's camera seems faster and less memory hungry that moto stock so thats a big plus for me
I had [ROM]MiuiXt_Final_V2 optimize english pack (update 29/6/2011) (my favorite)
Yestarday I installed Wanhus but I had problems with my signal, APN, etc. It is so fast, but I prefer SteelEpicBlue V4.
Today I'm gonna try with CM6.
IronMit said:
jus when i thought cm6 was going to be perfect for me...cm6 has a camera limitation?
what is it?
Miui's camera seems faster and less memory hungry that moto stock so thats a big plus for me
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Some things about camera on CM6: the menu that pops up for setting preferences (the top most of the six icons) actually scrolls, but it's impossible to have known that because it doesn't look like that at all. Also, milaq's CM 6.3.0 has updates to the camera--6.3.0 for XT720 should be out today or tomorrow depending on how testing goes this evening (it's built and sitting on my disk ). Mostly the CM camera doesn't offer to crop images to widescreen format by chopping off the top and bottom--so people expecting 8MP to be widescreen maybe get confused (I haven't tested this yet because of the camera updates that are in 6.3.0).
The other somewhat hassle with CM6 at the moment is that video playback isn't on par with WanHu/XDAspecial yet. Software decoding works as a workaround to playback some files, but WanHu/XDAspecial seems to be the media king. I also don't think HDMI output works yet on CM6, but it supposedly works well on WanHu/XDAspecial.
I agree with mchlbenner on the pluses of CM6 having tested Dexter 1.3, MIUI V2-V4, WanHu and the Cincinati Bell Froyo.I personally find that CM6 has the least Forced close and reboots and better power consumption of the ROMS I have tried.
IMHO, I reckon we cannot expect these modded ROMS to be 100% perfect since it is the work of the community as there will always be some small lingering issues - just try all the ROMS and then decide which ones suit your needs the best or closest.
haha jus as i was about to flash cm6 ..the final xda special hellmonger has been released...spoilt for choice again!
I have a feeling i might spend the whole day just flashing roms
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I got my Inspire on release day at 11:00am when BB opened and by 3pm i ran the ace hack kit and it was rooted and had a DHD ROM flashed on the phone. For the first week there was not a whole lot of ROM's or options, but week 2 and 3, they popped up like a bag of popcorn.
The first set of ROM's and kernels (Desire HD ROM's) left people with dingy sound, no you-tube or any video support at all for that matter. Other people experienced Wi-Fi problems as well. Different fixes and patches came out fixing most problems, except sound seems to be the biggest headache trying to find the right combination of audio settings, drivers, etc.
My favorite ROM was CoreDroid, basically because the theme is beautiful, but no matter what radio/kernel I used It took literally 15 minutes to get a satellite lock. I tried faster fix from the market, I went into the system to make sure it was set to North-America and not Europe nothing worked.
Android Revolution is another awesome ROM, however, I had Wi-Fi issues. "Obtaining IP Address" is as far as it would get before finally disconnecting. Once again I flashed different radios and kernels and still no go.
What I finally kept is the Stock ROM Optimized Rooted and to make this ROM super responsive I used LeeDroid's 1.8Ghz Kernel. I use SetCPU and keep it at 1.267Mhz. (1.6Mhz when playing games or multitasking. Never locked up) I can open my app drawer and give it one flick, and i can watch 90 apps zoom by in less then a second with no hesitation ever. It's very fast, very smooth, no force closes, Gps hits 9 satellites in less then 15 seconds we have full lock, mobile data is 3.8 down, 2.2 up (average) bluetooth file transfer works, and voice activated dialing, sound is perfect, and for people looking to tether, just get wireless tether from the market. It does Wi-Fi and bluetooth. I tethered to my playstation 3 just to see how well it would do a HD netflix stream, and it was flawless. Never had to stop to buffer.
I'm also on the stock radio which is 06.04.06_m, Everything is so smooth and perfect I see no need to change until AT&T releases there version of gingerbread and it has ROOT access. The problems I have had with different ROM's are isolated and doesn't mean your going to have the same problem. It's weird but that's how it works. 2 exact phones, both running same setup, can have 2 totally different problems. Just the way it is in Flashing Land.
I'm no Pro, just giving my opinion and facts with my particular unit. The different ROM's seems to be like the captivate. You gain something, you lose something.
Super Circle Battery Icon works great as well. Get it here
3/16/2011 - Version 2 flashed without a glitch. Wireless, Gps, mobile data, all work as well or better. I also flashed LeeDroid's 2.2. 6 o/c kernel and everything is dead on. Great Job
That's all I want to do it root it, increase the volume and get wifi tether working. Right now if you want to not have any drivers issues it seems like the current on the phone works best Thanks for the info!
I also wanted to increase the cpu speed, did you take much of a hit on the battery?
tom504 said:
That's all I want to do it root it, increase the volume and get wifi tether working. Right now if you want to not have any drivers issues it seems like the current on the phone works best Thanks for the info!
I also wanted to increase the cpu speed, did you take much of a hit on the battery?
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Not at all, it last all day. Put SetCPU on "ondemand" and when I'm not using phone for awhile I simply type *#*#4636#*#* and set is to GSM only and that's another way to save a lot of battery. I also use a app called easy switch where I can turn off mobile data completely when not in use. I have awesome battery life.
i've been using the cm7 nightlies. i don't particularly enjoy htc sense and rather prefer the aosp style android.
I too am loving the Stock ROM Optimized-Rooted-etc. I've only tried it and a build of CM7, which seemed not quite as smooth as the aforementioned ROM. Additionally, whenever I played the game Rush Hour and got a perfect score, it would always force close [not a problem with the stock-optimized ROM].
I am considering trying LeeDroid's kernel on top of Stock-optimized ROM to boost performance a little more, but I'm a little unsure about the process. Do I just copy his kernel to my sd card and then flash it in CWM Recovery using the "install zip from sdcard" command? I assume a similar technique is used to install the super circle battery mentioned in the OP?
I don't see RCMix HD in the OP. I've been using 3.4 and it's solid. If you look at the thread there's hardly any complaints.
Great write-up. I've been thinking about starting a thread asking developers/users to give a quick description of popular ROMs and go over the pros/cons. It's kind of difficult to sift through 200+ pages of discussions about each ROM and get a clear idea what it's like. Thanks for throwing your 2 cents in. I've been happy with the stock rooted ROM, but I've thought about trying out a couple of others, maybe Revolution, if anyone wants to through 2 more cents into the pot.
budco2000 said:
. . . What I finally kept is the Stock ROM Optimized Rooted and to make this ROM super responsive I used LeeDroid's 1.8Ghz Kernel. I use SetCPU and keep it at 1.267Mhz. (1.6Mhz when playing games or multitasking. Never locked up) I can open my app drawer and give it one flick, and i can watch 90 apps zoom by in less then a second with no hesitation ever. It's very fast, very smooth, no force closes, Gps hits 9 satellites in less then 15 seconds we have full lock, mobile data is 3.8 down, 2.2 up (average) bluetooth file transfer works, and voice activated dialing, sound is perfect, and for people looking to tether, just get wireless tether from the market. It does Wi-Fi and bluetooth. I tethered to my playstation 3 just to see how well it would do a HD netflix stream, and it was flawless. Never had to stop to buffer.
I'm also on the stock radio which is 06.04.06_m, Everything is so smooth and perfect I see no need to change until AT&T releases there version of gingerbread and it has ROOT access. The problems I have had with different ROM's are isolated and doesn't mean your going to have the same problem. It's weird but that's how it works. 2 exact phones, both running same setup, can have 2 totally different problems. Just the way it is in Flashing Land.
I'm no Pro, just giving my opinion and facts with my particular unit. The different ROM's seems to be like the captivate. You gain something, you lose something.
Super Circle Battery Icon works great as well. Get it here
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I really like the Stock Rom Optimized Rooted as well. I'm not getting as high upload speed as you are, but about 4 times higher than I was getting out of the box. And everything is very smooth onscreen as you mention.
I like Hybrid1.72.zip battery icon with it.
I haven't tried overclocking yet, but after reading your post, that is my next project!
substance12 said:
I don't see RCMix HD in the OP. I've been using 3.4 and it's solid. If you look at the thread there's hardly any complaints.
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this 4.2 Gingerbread version is pretty good IMO, its GPS is accurate, WIFI no problem.
[ROM]Mar 10[NewSense]RCMix HD v4.2 Blazingly GingerBread | Now with Transparency
Yep, Both are are flashed in recovery, kernel takes about 5 seconds
mattbollenbach said:
i've been using the cm7 nightlies. i don't particularly enjoy htc sense and rather prefer the aosp style android.
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I disable sense desktop in titanium and use zeme, or adw
Could you post a screen shot of this Rom the way you have it setup>?>
does mobile hotspot work right off the spot without any setting changes?
Im building a rom/kernel now based off stock Rom and compiling kernel from inspire source. Already got the extended power menu done, hopefully it'll be out in a few days. Not sure if the kernel will be done or not but hopefully I can get it out at the same time as the Rom.
+1 for Optimized Stock Rom. I liked Android Revolution, but my Inspire would take 10-15 minutes to get a GPS lock. With OSR, I get lock in 15-30 seconds. No downside to this ROM at all for me!
di11igaf said:
Im building a rom/kernel now based off stock Rom and compiling kernel from inspire source. Already got the extended power menu done, hopefully it'll be out in a few days. Not sure if the kernel will be done or not but hopefully I can get it out at the same time as the Rom.
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Nice. I used your Captivate ROMs and had great results. I guess I know the next ROM I will be flashing.
di11igaf said:
Im building a rom/kernel now based off stock Rom and compiling kernel from inspire source. Already got the extended power menu done, hopefully it'll be out in a few days. Not sure if the kernel will be done or not but hopefully I can get it out at the same time as the Rom.
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I also still use one of your Roms and will without fail try one in the Inspire when you finish cooking!
Right now I'm undecided and switching between Revolution 4 Beta 2 Gingerbread and twopumpchump's Stock optimized with LeeDroid kernel. I'm getting better download speeds with the latter option but both are exceptionally good roms.
SNadler said:
I also still use one of your Roms and will without fail try one in the Inspire when you finish cooking!
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Any chance Call Record will work in the Inspire as it does in some of your other roms?
Have you tried the gingerbread test radio?
I'm torn between all these choices. Please tell me what you're using and why.
Make sure to mention battery life, performance, and useful features please.
Also, how does the rom mount the sd internal and external sd? Stock - as in there's a folder called _ExternalSD, or like how CM7 does it, using External as primary and having the emmc folder as secondary?
Trigger 2x...because I can make my clock blue to match my Steel Blue CM7 theme, lol. No, seriously...that's why.
Plain CM7 rom. The ability to have a relatively stock look, hide the clock and change the battery indicator to a percentage rather than just an icon.
I used to use Bionix2, but it still suffered instability issues (random reboots) etc.
Only complaint between both roms is that the pictures in my contact screen have a small little white bar underneath with thre little suqare dots which kind of irritates me.
I dislike the market that comes with CM7, but it seems that's the new stock look. (Which blows.)
I prioritize customization and battery life, and this rom gives me both.
CM7 -- Most stable and stock looking. I also like the fact that everything is customizable and nothing looks "cheap". Also battery life is important to me. If a rom drains my battery it's pretty much nixed.
I use CM7 because it just works great.
However I've been liking MIUI. I have Nandroids of both that I flip back and forth, and update where possible. So I have 2 current builds of Miui and CM7 that I run.
MIUI isn't quite where it needs to be for a final daily driver but with that I had, I made it work. The downfall was APN Cell data was hit or miss requiring resets, it would get blazing hot, the battery drain was horrible. I did 3 full charges through the day just to get by (morning wake up, around 2pm, around 7pm, then bed). I was hammering it though but shouldn't drain that bad. I did install a MIUI Digital Clock Widget which I'm thinking is causing the extra battery drain. Next time I boot into it I'll remove it and see where it gets me.
MIUI is ascetically pleasing to the eye. It is very pretty and fun to use. I love the dialer and the big icons and the Settings menu colors.
MIUI is based off CM7 so eventually it will be ironed out where it is just as stable but until then it is just my play OS.
I have just found out that I can replace Launcher Pro with Go Launcher or ADW EX finally because I found a LP Widget replacement called "Colorized Widgets". They work and feel just like the LP versions but work on GO and ADW.
So now I'm running CM7 with the Captivated theme, GO Launcher with a "Blue Theme" that has iPhone/MIUI icons and a glass look, and Colorized Widgets with the "Transparent" theme.
MIUI, I'm running Stock Launcher, Colorized Widgets, iTap Keyboard (iPhone themed Gingerbread keyboard).
Nice Setup.
So everyone using CM7 are you using RC1 or nightlies? Is there even a big difference? Would it be worth it to do the nightlies?
player911 said:
I use CM7 because it just works great.
However I've been liking MIUI. I have Nandroids of both that I flip back and forth, and update where possible. So I have 2 current builds of Miui and CM7 that I run.
MIUI isn't quite where it needs to be for a final daily driver but with that I had, I made it work. The downfall was APN Cell data was hit or miss requiring resets, it would get blazing hot, the battery drain was horrible. I did 3 full charges through the day just to get by (morning wake up, around 2pm, around 7pm, then bed). I was hammering it though but shouldn't drain that bad. I did install a MIUI Digital Clock Widget which I'm thinking is causing the extra battery drain. Next time I boot into it I'll remove it and see where it gets me.
MIUI is ascetically pleasing to the eye. It is very pretty and fun to use. I love the dialer and the big icons and the Settings menu colors.
MIUI is based off CM7 so eventually it will be ironed out where it is just as stable but until then it is just my play OS.
I have just found out that I can replace Launcher Pro with Go Launcher or ADW EX finally because I found a LP Widget replacement called "Colorized Widgets". They work and feel just like the LP versions but work on GO and ADW.
So now I'm running CM7 with the Captivated theme, GO Launcher with a "Blue Theme" that has iPhone/MIUI icons and a glass look, and Colorized Widgets with the "Transparent" theme.
MIUI, I'm running Stock Launcher, Colorized Widgets, iTap Keyboard (iPhone themed Gingerbread keyboard).
Nice Setup.
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Damn, you should setup my g2x! Lol I'm using miui, stock with faux kernel and xboarders rom ...I also switch between all three...miui is my favorite to play with, stock is the best for GPS, xboarders has bits of cm7 and stock...so basically im loving my g2x, even with all its bugs!
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player911 said:
... MIUI is based off CM7 so ...
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Really?
You sure about that?
I always thought that MIUI was custom done by some Chinese developers?
Flashing each stock CM7 nightly has been incredibly stable for me and the battery usage for the past couple of weeks has been amazing. Then again, I'm not overly hard on my phone by using the screen a lot like some folks do, I'm more prone to using my Transformer for gaming and general web browsing than I am my phone. I've never had any major bugs on CM7, but most of the general bugs that people complain about being on the phone are also completely foreign to me. I've also never used a fully stock G2x rom, my phone was shipped to me by another XDA user with a custom rom based on the GB release that I replaced with CM7 within a day or two, so my experience with with stock issues is absolutely non-existent.
I use CM7 because it was far less buggy than every other rom I tried in the dev section, and I used an iPhone against my will for almost a month, so MIUI is hideous to me by now aside from the bugs it still has. My first Android device was a first week release G1 and I still love stock Android. I've never been a fan of most of the UI overlays that vendors make (althogh the newer Sense is nice and some of the Touchwiz for 3.0 features are tempting) and I prefer to be allowed the choice of what I want my phone to look like. CM7 is the most stock rom I've seen that's also very stable. Also, I enjoy reading the CM changelogs. I'm trying to relearn how to code again and the diffs that the CM changelogs give are very enlightening and enjoyable to read.
I usually keep my phone underclocked a bit to 800Mhz max and screen off is underclocked quite a bit more. When I'm at home I leave data off and WiFi on (goes to sleep when the screen is off) and the battery can last for almost 3 days that way without hardly moving at all. When on data I get 8-20 hours or more depending on how much I'm traveling (switching towers drains battery) and how much I have the screen on. On full blast the shortest I've had the battery run was 4-6 hours of playing a game like Zenonia 3 without stopping. Using WiFi tethering the battery usually lasts 4-8 hours depending on how much I tax the phone's modem. Even underclocked the phone performs exceptionally well and I've never had any slowdowns during games or programs. I haven't had to reboot my phone, pull the battery, any random reboots or shutdowns, no APN issues, anything. Then again, I do reboot my phone every time a nightly is released which can be several days in a row or a lull for a few days at a time. I haven't had much luck running custom kernels but I haven't tried much other than faux's UV kernel so that's not much to go on. The stock CM7 kernel is just too stable for me for me to feel like changing it much.
I can only say that now that an official 2.3 release is out for this phone that roms will only get more interesting and hopefully more stable than they already are.. It already seems that there is a glut of developer interest in this device. Just one look in the development subforum shows the better part of a dozen choices in roms and much more activity than many places I've visited on XDA for a while.
I used CM7 if I had a second G2X to put other roms on.
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Cm7 nightlies ftw..... Mounts to emmc bit men don't bother me... stable rom and good battery life..
Eagle blood 2.3.5. The most stable and coolest one I've tried.
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Really?
You sure about that?
I always thought that MIUI was custom done by some Chinese developers?
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Yes, it's 100% based off cm7 source. (If you don't believe me, go to their forums, and look. Right now they are caught up to about nightly 85 I believe.)
JaiaV said:
Flashing each stock CM7 nightly has been incredibly stable for me and the battery usage for the past couple of weeks has been amazing. Then again, I'm not overly hard on my phone by using the screen a lot like some folks do, I'm more prone to using my Transformer for gaming and general web browsing than I am my phone. I've never had any major bugs on CM7, but most of the general bugs that people complain about being on the phone are also completely foreign to me. I've also never used a fully stock G2x rom, my phone was shipped to me by another XDA user with a custom rom based on the GB release that I replaced with CM7 within a day or two, so my experience with with stock issues is absolutely non-existent.
I use CM7 because it was far less buggy than every other rom I tried in the dev section, and I used an iPhone against my will for almost a month, so MIUI is hideous to me by now aside from the bugs it still has. My first Android device was a first week release G1 and I still love stock Android. I've never been a fan of most of the UI overlays that vendors make (althogh the newer Sense is nice and some of the Touchwiz for 3.0 features are tempting) and I prefer to be allowed the choice of what I want my phone to look like. CM7 is the most stock rom I've seen that's also very stable. Also, I enjoy reading the CM changelogs. I'm trying to relearn how to code again and the diffs that the CM changelogs give are very enlightening and enjoyable to read.
I usually keep my phone underclocked a bit to 800Mhz max and screen off is underclocked quite a bit more. When I'm at home I leave data off and WiFi on (goes to sleep when the screen is off) and the battery can last for almost 3 days that way without hardly moving at all. When on data I get 8-20 hours or more depending on how much I'm traveling (switching towers drains battery) and how much I have the screen on. On full blast the shortest I've had the battery run was 4-6 hours of playing a game like Zenonia 3 without stopping. Using WiFi tethering the battery usually lasts 4-8 hours depending on how much I tax the phone's modem. Even underclocked the phone performs exceptionally well and I've never had any slowdowns during games or programs. I haven't had to reboot my phone, pull the battery, any random reboots or shutdowns, no APN issues, anything. Then again, I do reboot my phone every time a nightly is released which can be several days in a row or a lull for a few days at a time. I haven't had much luck running custom kernels but I haven't tried much other than faux's UV kernel so that's not much to go on. The stock CM7 kernel is just too stable for me for me to feel like changing it much.
I can only say that now that an official 2.3 release is out for this phone that roms will only get more interesting and hopefully more stable than they already are.. It already seems that there is a glut of developer interest in this device. Just one look in the development subforum shows the better part of a dozen choices in roms and much more activity than many places I've visited on XDA for a while.
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Wow, that was very detailed! Thanks. Quick question, what are some main advantages of the nightlies vs RC1?
EaglesBlood CM7 + Faux's OC/UV kernel + launcherpro
it's fast, it's stable, has the notification power widget, runs netflix.. nothing more i could ask for
except maybe the LG cam.. but either that or the notification widget.. i chose the widget
E: from the post above I underclocked it to 800mhz.. will see how much battery life i get so far no noticeable slowdown
Trigger 2x
It's been the most stable and feature full experience on my G2x. I've been using it since build 11, I just flashed build 14, and am loving it.
MIUI/cm7 practically the same, love all the features.
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Wow, that was very detailed! Thanks. Quick question, what are some main advantages of the nightlies vs RC1?
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The nightlies are more up to date and actually more stable than the RC. I'm running 93 right now and it's been going smooth all night.
I'm still rockin froyo with Fauxs kernel on ultimate rom.
Those plus adw launcher equal silk. Lol
I would go with GB but im gonna wait a while till all this baseband and camera app get ported by the guru's. Still can't believe they dumbed down the functionality of the camera on an update lol
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Xboarders 2.3.3 tweaked because I like everything to work... cough.a2dp.cough
And the guy updates like a madman
Runs like hot knife thru butter and battery life is about 17 hrs
Hello Defy fellows!
I'm new here and to all Android ROM flashing thing. I own a Defy for a couple of weeks now, it runs Android Éclair and I'm looking forward to put on a nicer ROM on it. It is my first Android smartphone, I've come from a sad Symbian 2.3 Nokia.
So: I'm not familiar with any of the ROMs that lots of users here have been playing around and I believe that there could be really interesting inputs for the interested who are new to those developments.
I've been reading on the procedures and what's involved to flash new ROMs to the Defy and I couldn't help to notice that there are quite a few custom ROMs available.
I wonder which ones are the most stable and reliable. Also, which ones have the best performance and deliver higher battery autonomy. I would not like much experimental things, but mostly one with less bugs and problems, to carry on with it and don't bother for a while, until there is a major update or something.
I will use it here on Brazil and I expect it to not lose any functionality regarding GSM, 3G and GPS. I don't know exactly what is involved on this aspect and what are the limitations but I can say to you that my network uses 850 and 2100 MHz for 3G and 1800 MHz for GSM.
It should also support portuguese, even that there's just the spelling dictionary.
I'm sorry if there are dumb questions above, I simply don't know what can be a problem if I change the native ROM to a customized/tweaked one.
I believe that there are patches to do almost anything, but I would like to not need to worry about how to fix issues on my phone's system...
At first, I am tempted to get the main CM7 ROM but I'm creating this thread really to explore the differences and comparisons among the available options.
I am also strongly considering undervolting/overclocking the CPU
Looking forward to your thoughts!
Regards!
BTW: my Defy has Bayer Green lenses!
ursoouindio said:
BTW: my Defy has Bayer Green lenses!
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bayer is red lense
SOC is green
remuseu said:
bayer is red lense
SOC is green
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looking against the light I see green and yellow shinning... and Catlog reports is as being Bayer.
But that's ok, I wont rely that much on which color it seems to me without having something different on my other hand to compare with.
So, you have Bayer Yellow lens.
Well, thanks...
I didn't even know that there were a third color for the lenses....
But I think that isn't important , its all about the module, Bayer or SOC.
i will recomend you to use ms2ginger... it's a fully operational rom with gingerbread + motoblur, can record at 720p (HD), it's fast and have dlna option to share things with pc, laptops and LED tv.... ohh, it's have support for portuguese language too
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i will recomend you to use ms2ginger... it's a fully operational rom with gingerbread + motoblur, can record at 720p (HD), it's fast and have dlna option to share things with pc, laptops and LED tv.... ohh, it's have support for portuguese language too
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MS2Ginger is a very nice ROM. It's my current ROM.
ursoouindio said:
I wonder which ones are the most stable and reliable. Also, which ones have the best performance and deliver higher battery autonomy. I would not like much experimental things, but mostly one with less bugs and problems, to carry on with it and don't bother for a while, until there is a major update or something.
I am also strongly considering undervolting/overclocking the CPU
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As I see, here two common options for you:
I will vote for Barebones Froyo,
-stable Froyo, have no bugs
-without Blur
-best battery (1-2% per night, 2-3 days of average using 3g
-you can overclock it with bootmenu preinstaled
-as good bonus, u'll have many other little things which will make your every day use more enjoyable (720p playing, widescreen recording etc)
CM7 - bleeding edge, you'll have latest software, and latest bugs.
Actually, for me, CM7 give no advantage in every day use.
Someone will say perfomance, but its only syntetic tests (cheating), you'll have no real improvments, cuz hardware stays same.
You've given me an idea.
Would it be useful if I made a spreadsheet/googledoc listing all available roms which os they using, stable, major bugs etc?
what is ms2ginger?
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what is ms2ginger?
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check yourself....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140839
If u need better battery life(in stand by mode) u must use Barebones froyo ROM.
If u need better performance u can consider using WIUI or cm7.
If u need more new feature u can use cm7.
If u need more moto staff u can use ms2ginger.
For me I am using WIUI and i would say it is a great rom if u like miui's interface and the battery life is good for me(1-2 days) also I don't need new features except crystal talk plus . But I guess MIUI's guys will be add it soon.
My friends, thanks for the replies so far!
Can you enlighten me on what are these tweaks that gets better performance for CM7 over barebones?
As I understood, ms2ginger has the motoblur thing, right? I don't care much about it and I think that I probably would be happier without it as I believe it impacts considerably on the overall performance.
Comparing CM7 and MIUI, which are the most elementary differences?
Sorry for the lots of questions, but there it is hard to someone new keep track on all those developments.
Don't forget to give a try to MS2Ginger, it's a very good ROM and it's in RC2 phase. It has very good battery perfomance and also gives you 720p recording and the new motoblur. Right now it's the ROM I am using and I feel very good with it.
miui
why no one say something bout MIUI?
i've been using it since i got my Defy.
and so far, its a great ROM and nice also.
and good to showoff to iPhone fag
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My friends, thanks for the replies so far!
Can you enlighten me on what are these tweaks that gets better performance for CM7 over barebones?
As I understood, ms2ginger has the motoblur thing, right? I don't care much about it and I think that I probably would be happier without it as I believe it impacts considerably on the overall performance.
Comparing CM7 and MIUI, which are the most elementary differences?
Sorry for the lots of questions, but there it is hard to someone new keep track on all those developments.
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CM7 have no moto staff that improve performance also gingerbread have a better performance. I guess CM7's developers optimized drivers to get much better performance over CM7. MIUI is base on CM7 so there are no much difference of performance. The differences of CM7 and MIUI is they use the different shell(you can read as UI) and also MIUI doesn't use the latest source of CM7 so it may have more bugs and do not have some newest features. I perfer WIUI (mod of MIUI) because it is stable and it's easy to use
Barebones is really insane in battery life !!! it has been 12 hours ..... since and still i m on 90% but though it seems that the older or newer sim it really has a greater impact on battery life .... older seems eats up quickly whereas newer sim they use a lot less battery
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Barebones is really insane in battery life !!! it has been 12 hours ..... since and still i m on 90% but though it seems that the older or newer sim it really has a greater impact on battery life .... older seems eats up quickly whereas newer sim they use a lot less battery
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can confirm the sim effect...i too have lot better battery life after change of sim...am on bbfroyo...amazing rom...15 hours..lot of smses...few calls...an hour of chess plus quite a bit of aimless playing around with the phone...still 78% battery left...amazing
kevin_diu, thanks for the answer, I was wondering on this kind of relation between them...
Wouldn't it be possible to get the same shell as MIUI while using CM7?
joydeep1985, that is really incredible if you get that much battery from this smartphone. How's the performance on it?
I just don't get the sim issue, what is that?
Confused!
joydeep1985 said:
Barebones is really insane in battery life !!! it has been 12 hours ..... since and still i m on 90% but though it seems that the older or newer sim it really has a greater impact on battery life .... older seems eats up quickly whereas newer sim they use a lot less battery
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Wow! BB Froyo 157 gave me 12 hours of life from 100%-0% I can't believe how all of you get so much battery life! I'm back on WIUI and I get 18 hours from full to zero now.
I have S7 right now. If anyone has switched, or used both, if you could answer the following...
-Battery Life, how does it compare between the two?
-Smoothness, once again, how does it compare? I normally run 1.4Ghz OC, so I know that might help butter things up.
-Stability, any problems besides the no sound first call? It seems to be getting updated regularly, which is awesome.
That's all for now
Dlev is the best
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Dlev is the best
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... Can you expand on that at all? The OP had three specific questions and you didn't answer any. You just stated your opinion and who knows if you've even tried Serendipity to compare the two.
I really liked S7 but it just decided one day that it was not gonna work. Everything started force closing. So I moved to CM7 but it was good. As for Dlev I didn't like the looks of it. So I was on it like maybe 1 hour or so didn't have issue with in that hour.
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I've been on both and I like things about both.
S7 - Good battery life, great stability, great performance..
--It is outdated, sometimes has the battery drain bug.
Dlev - Excellent battery life, like the theme, great stability, is sometimes "choppy", is newer version the S7.
--The developer is active and fixing problems.
If S7 was 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 JVT/JVT it would definitely be my choice of ROM.
I would go for DLEV since it's 2.3.4 and doesn't have the battery drain bug, and has a lot of great features.
MIUI ftw...much better in my opinion. Battery life can be tweaked with setCPU settings so that pretty much fixes that...only issue is that 3d in rendered like 10000000000 times slower so games WILL lag A LOT. other than that...every other category you can think of is A+. Unbeatable in smoothness,theme management and eye candy. It is stable too I have not encountered any situations where it got unstable unless u overclock it to 1600 at 1600mV! That will kill it right away, but yeah...MIUI rocks. One more thing i dont like is that it like half the themes are chinese and there is no AOSP theme all of them have wierdo icons and stuff so that is pretty much really annoying.
Only problem for me is usb connectivity. Tried it without debugging on and all I got was a kies screen with no recognition from my pc (win7). With debugging on it just goes to a charge. I'm gonna play around with it some more, but everything else is super clean and smooth.
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MIUI ftw...much better in my opinion. Battery life can be tweaked with setCPU settings so that pretty much fixes that...only issue is that 3d in rendered like 10000000000 times slower so games WILL lag A LOT. other than that...every other category you can think of is A+. Unbeatable in smoothness,theme management and eye candy. It is stable too I have not encountered any situations where it got unstable unless u overclock it to 1600 at 1600mV! That will kill it right away, but yeah...MIUI rocks. One more thing i dont like is that it like half the themes are chinese and there is no AOSP theme all of them have wierdo icons and stuff so that is pretty much really annoying.
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I don't want MIUI on account of the bluetooth issue, and I play games so there is that too. But thank you for the suggestion.
Anyone else on S7 vs. Dlev?
Mohammad_Adib said:
MIUI ftw...much better in my opinion. Battery life can be tweaked with setCPU settings so that pretty much fixes that...only issue is that 3d in rendered like 10000000000 times slower so games WILL lag A LOT. other than that...every other category you can think of is A+. Unbeatable in smoothness,theme management and eye candy. It is stable too I have not encountered any situations where it got unstable unless u overclock it to 1600 at 1600mV! That will kill it right away, but yeah...MIUI rocks. One more thing i dont like is that it like half the themes are chinese and there is no AOSP theme all of them have wierdo icons and stuff so that is pretty much really annoying.
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This guy ^^ really loves his MIUI lol but yes I've had both...Dlev, didn't like the theme of it and for some reason was choppy every other boot or so, and had data issues, got tired of it and flashed S7 and haven't changed since. Great battery, stability, speed, only negative is its still 2.3.3, not really a big deal for me.
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I have S7 right now. If anyone has switched, or used both, if you could answer the following...
-Battery Life, how does it compare between the two?
-Smoothness, once again, how does it compare? I normally run 1.4Ghz OC, so I know that might help butter things up.
-Stability, any problems besides the no sound first call? It seems to be getting updated regularly, which is awesome.
That's all for now
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I came from S7 to Dlev about a week ago. I had HUGE battery drain problems with S7 that weren't being fixed with a reboot, or uninstalling apps. I've been extremely happy with Dlev, paired with the Daily Driver kernel the battery life is very good, and the kernel makes charging faster. I have had no stability problems with the new update, I had some problems with the first one and the Touch Wiz launcher (fixed with a re-install). The new version has Go Launcher EX installed, which is an excellent theme-able launcher with lots of eye candy tweaks. Smoothness even at stock speed with all animations is good, would be even better if overclocked.
Dlev is the best for me, which has been running great all the time. I have not tried CM7, but since Dlev is actually based off of the captivate (very like the Infuse if you did not know), which seems like it would work better with the Fuse. Ha Mohammad_Adib knows I like it so much this from Android Forums ha. I would probably be running Infused though, because I just like the feel of running a rom that is actually meant for the Infuse, but with no updates for now I just have nothing to look forward to on that rom, where Dlev may just be my fav now.
So, after trying out many other roms, I've come to the conclusion that WeaponG2x is the one that works for me. However, I was also wondering if it was stable and smooth because of the stock kernel or is it the rom?
I've been using Weapon for a week and a half now and it runs smoothly, never crashes on me, never have to pull battery, and I did realize that battery was better than the previous roms.
Now I want to know if I should use any other custom kernel(overclocked or not)? The roms runs great, except I noticed that it lags a bit here and there, but not too much. Like when i'm downloading an app, the screen will be still for like 1 milisecond when it's installing. That's probably the trade off for the decent battery life, but I'm not sure.
So what kernel are you guys using with Weapon? Let me know, I've been thinking about using Faux kernel, overclock it to about 1100 with SetCPU. But im worried it'll have a major impact on battery life.
Thanks.
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So, after trying out many other roms, I've come to the conclusion that WeaponG2x is the one that works for me. However, I was also wondering if it was stable and smooth because of the stock kernel or is it the rom?
I've been using Weapon for a week and a half now and it runs smoothly, never crashes on me, never have to pull battery, and I did realize that battery was better than the previous roms.
Now I want to know if I should use any other custom kernel(overclocked or not)? The roms runs great, except I noticed that it lags a bit here and there, but not too much. Like when i'm downloading an app, the screen will be still for like 1 milisecond when it's installing. That's probably the trade off for the decent battery life, but I'm not sure.
So what kernel are you guys using with Weapon? Let me know, I've been thinking about using Faux kernel, overclock it to about 1100 with SetCPU. But im worried it'll have a major impact on battery life.
Thanks.
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That lag when installing apps is an Android problem, not ROM. I believe Google fixed that in ICS. If it ain't broke no need to fix it is what I believe, so I say just stick with what kernel you already have.
But if you really wanna try something new then try the Dragon Kernel that was repacked by Mr.Apocalypse. Or you can try Faux's. But make sure you try the one that's for the 2.3.3 GB OTA by Faux, not the CM7 version.
Stay with stock kernel. Since no drivers for the kernel were ever released, technically stock is the best aside from the tweaks, but then it becomes a sort of ported kernel.
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Stay with stock kernel. Since no drivers for the kernel were ever released, technically stock is the best aside from the tweaks, but then it becomes a sort of ported kernel.
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Stock kernel is good, I think that's the reason my battery life was great. But I'm gonna stay with Dragon and see how things go.
Wooooooo, im rocking faux's kernel repackaged by loterious for faster boot times.
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You will get best battery life/stability on your stock weapon kernel. If you want to oc go with faux but prepare for noticible bad battery life.
P.s. try pheonix blood on stock kernel way better imo
Making bad decision's one at a time.
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You will get best battery life/stability on your stock weapon kernel. If you want to oc go with faux but prepare for noticible bad battery life.
P.s. try pheonix blood on stock kernel way better imo
Making bad decision's one at a time.
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I love PhoenixBlood, but I like Weapon better, it seems more stable, everything works!
NekoNyapii said:
I love PhoenixBlood, but I like Weapon better, it seems more stable, everything works!
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Wise choice. Weapon is a great rom. Back it up and try "new clip". Follow the instructions and give it time to settle. There is a new updated weapon rom coming soon. In new clip you will get fast GPS locks. Fast/quick interface. Very nice. The one quibble is clock placement.
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Wise choice. Weapon is a great rom. Back it up and try "new click". Follow the instructions and give it time to settle. There is a new updated weapon rom coming soon. In new click you will get fast GPS locks. Fast/quick interface. Very nice. The one quibble is clock placement.
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New Clip*
I ran weapon r1 and new clip and you are right both are the bees knees. The gps fix in new clip was an unreal change in fix time as well! Good luck with the weapon!
Making bad decision's one at a time.
I have always used weapons and Faux is the way to go. I use setcpu and I run my processor at 1.552 when the screens on and. 389 when its off and I get over 15 hours per charge with moderate use. Just customize the profiles in setcpu to your liking.
Weapons for life!
What exactly is this "New click"? Is it a new weapon mod?
Anyways I have been using weapon r1 3.0 for about a week now, everything is stable and smooth, however gps isnt exactly the fastest, often it doesnt even lock indoor (which, my old phone does). Takes roughly 15s-1m to get a lock outdoor too. I personally think that is slow.
Other than the gps, i am fairly satisfied with the WeaponG2x_30_R1_1022.
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What exactly is this "New click"? Is it a new weapon mod?
Anyways I have been using weapon r1 3.0 for about a week now, everything is stable and smooth, however gps isnt exactly the fastest, often it doesnt even lock indoor (which, my old phone does). Takes roughly 15s-1m to get a lock outdoor too. I personally think that is slow.
Other than the gps, i am fairly satisfied with the WeaponG2x_30_R1_1022.
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Sorry for the typo. It is "New Clip". New Clip is new revision by Kwes1020. He has taken ownership of the rom now that the original dev no longer has a G2x. GPS is much improved and the entire interface has been tweaked for a smoother faster response. It is flashed over Weapon from CWM. It retains all your settings, apps etc. It is a worthy upgrade. Soon there will be an all new version of Weapon, but for now it is the best solution.Try it, you will like it.
Yep... I've tried about 3 or 4 roms before I came up weapon.... This is definitely the most stable by far. Have no issues with it in about 3 weeks now. Also don't suffer from the SoD anymore either.
Tried CM7 Stable looked nice but had SOD issues on lock
then i used root explorer to flush out the bloat ware and ran that for a few hours and backed it up and installed
weapon_r, only problem seemed to be if i rebooted i had to re install from backup need for speed and the nova demo. or they would crash boot on start. but
just flashed new clip and after reboot no lockup on need for speed or nova!
love this rom.....everything works and lots of options. nice and fast (maybe too fast) i was used to a ginger lol optimums t that i gave to my mom after disablement of data(she can use wi fi) i'm not paying for a data line for her.
I tried out faux's kernel but I don't like it. Either it's the kernel or setcpu's default values, but my phone keeps turning off randomly over night.
How do I go back to weapon's kernel without flashing the whole rom again?
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I tried out faux's kernel but I don't like it. Either it's the kernel or setcpu's default values, but my phone keeps turning off randomly over night.
How do I go back to weapon's kernel without flashing the whole rom again?
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Boot into CWM
Flash Weapon
Flash New Clip (optional)
Wipe cache
Wipe dalvik cache
Reboot
All settings should be retained. I remember reading somewhere that when you change kernels, you should go into application management and clear data and cache from SetCPU or some of the old settings will be used. Not sure if that's true or not. And actually, maybe that was the original problem for you on faux's kernel. *shrug*
I didn't have SetCPU prior to faux kernel... I wanted to try overclocking and my phone would randomly shut off. So I just left the values at default and it still did it.
Bumping since I have another question.
Every now and then on the home screen, when i try to slide to the next screen, the screen will pan out and show all of my home screens instead. I'm not sure how to change it back without rebooting.
Anyone know what I might have did?
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Bumping since I have another question.
Every now and then on the home screen, when i try to slide to the next screen, the screen will pan out and show all of my home screens instead. I'm not sure how to change it back without rebooting.
Anyone know what I might have did?
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If your using go launcher you can set the swipe up and swipe down on your homescreen to do stuff I disable it cause its annoying.
Edit: On your homescreen (assuming you have go launcher) > preferences > gestures > glide up > select the option 'disable'
Make sure you do the same thing with "glide down" option.
Pin it to Win it.