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New Nexus 5 Owner, Stock VS Custom ROM

I bought a nexus 5, should arrive this week, to be activated on straight talk. Being a nexus 7 owner, I already know how custom Roms and kernels can help the device be more speedy.
Since the nexus 5 is already a fast device, is a custom ROM really needed? Or would xposed framework modules be sufficient enough along with optimized bionic and dalvik patches.
As for kernels, same question. I don't intend on over clocking, but is there any other advantage?
Thanks.
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datallboy said:
I bought a nexus 5, should arrive this week, to be activated on straight talk. Being a nexus 7 owner, I already know how custom Roms and kernels can help the device be more speedy.
Since the nexus 5 is already a fast device, is a custom ROM really needed? Or would xposed framework modules be sufficient enough along with optimized bionic and dalvik patches.
As for kernels, same question. I don't intend on over clocking, but is there any other advantage?
Thanks.
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For me I'm happy with stock rooted plus xposed. I removed the optimized bionic and dalvik patches as I couldn't run asphalt 8 without it.

I use custom ROM but close to stock as possible, with a custom kernel for additional controls over hardware and xposed Gravity to customize layouts.

If you're going to change ROMS for speed, there's honestly no point. The battery, speed, etc, are all great on stock .
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It's the same thing, xposed or custom, I prefer full package

I think the moderators will see this thread as a "best ROM thread"

mistahseller said:
I think the moderators will see this thread as a "best ROM thread"
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Because it pretty much is.
Just check out the roms and read the first post and see which one has the features you want.
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After getting the device a couple months ago, I was on stock with xposed and franco for the first month. I decided to try out some custom ROMs but ultimately came back to stock. Xposed gives me all the customization I need.

Xpose FTW!
datallboy said:
I bought a nexus 5, should arrive this week, to be activated on straight talk. Being a nexus 7 owner, I already know how custom Roms and kernels can help the device be more speedy.
Since the nexus 5 is already a fast device, is a custom ROM really needed? Or would xposed framework modules be sufficient enough along with optimized bionic and dalvik patches.
As for kernels, same question. I don't intend on over clocking, but is there any other advantage?
Thanks.
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I've had my Nexus 5 for about 2 weeks now. I previously had a Samsung Galaxy S4 that was rooted with Xposed & Wanam Xposed and several other modules. When I came to Nexus 5, I unlocked the bootloader, but haven't flashed any other ROMs yet. I am running stock KitKat with Xposed & GravityBox installed. I am loving it. Also using a few other xposed modules like Crappalinks, etc. Gravitybox does about everything I need and I think I am about to donate to get the newly added "light flow" like features. Great Module!
I am also running the Franco Kernel & have installed the optimized Dalvik & Bionic. Phone is smooth as butter. Of course I'm using the Donation version of Greenify also. I've read up on quite a few Custom ROMs, but right now I don't see any major advantage to flashing one. Gravitybox & other Xposed modules give me all I need. Samsungs Knox & and AT&T's locked bootloader drove me away from the S4. Even though I don't have a custom ROM right, I always have the option if something great comes out. N5 is great because it's so open. Custom Recovery was a big deal for me also. TWRP all the way! Good luck with the phone when it arrives. You are going to love it!
- Jeremy

Thanks for all the feedback.
Not really trying to initiate a "best ROM" thread, just seeing if custom Roms are worth it.
On my nexus 7 I've found stock, elementalx kernel for OC, xposed, and the optimized patches worked best. Wasn't sure if this was also true for the nexus 5.
Looking forward to the phone!
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Switch from lg ROM to asop?

I have had many phones in the past and I always root and flash cm/aokp/etc roms. But for some reason I love the stock lg ROM. The only problem I am haven't is no one is making kernels for the 4.4.2. Rom and I don't want to back track too 4.2.2.
Has anyone switch to the asop ROM and has been happy with it?
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dondadah88 said:
I have had many phones in the past and I always root and flash cm/aokp/etc roms. But for some reason I love the stock lg ROM. The only problem I am haven't is no one is making kernels for the 4.4.2. Rom and I don't want to back track too 4.2.2.
Has anyone switch to the asop ROM and has been happy with it?
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well you do need to remember that 4.4 just came out about a month ago but it rolled out slowly and even now there are devices which haven't been updated yet plus the kernel needs to be modified to support the old boot and thus supporting custom recovery so people would need to incorporate that and the stuff they used in there previous kernels so we must be patient, plus today I saw the first kk kernel surface sadly it was for t-mo but that means can get one soon too
Edit: seems dorimanx might finally start working on kk kernel

Yea having a nexus 4 spoiled me by bad. But the nexus 5 is "half" the phone the g2 is. I'm currently looking at the cloudy roms something that doesn't have a lot of bloat in it but I can't live with out these features lg has incorporated in this rom
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dondadah88 said:
Yea having a nexus 4 spoiled me by bad. But the nexus 5 is "half" the phone the g2 is. I'm currently looking at the cloudy roms something that doesn't have a lot of bloat in it but I can't live with out these features lg has incorporated in this rom
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I've read a lot of good feedback on the the cloudystock and cloudypro plus I think the nexus is kinda bland in development sure it has a lot roms but there all the same aosp here there is variety flex/pro 2 and good devs/people
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I've always run CM (since OG Evo) but I was pretty impressed with the G2 stock system. LG has one of the most bloated interfaces on the market, but the camera app was really good.
I pretty much immediately put CM on it, and I'm pretty happy. For one thing, the very important knock-on and knock-off work very well with CM11 M4. The camera isn't quite as good as it is from the stock rom, but it is solid. Certainly a step up from my Nexus 4 on CM.
I might go back and try the LG rom again some more, good luck.

[Q] System updates with custom kernel?

Hi guys,
With i.e. Franco kernel installed, will I be able to have official updates on stock ROM?
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No.

To further elaborate, any changes to /system will render updates useless. A custom kernel, having root, etc. You can however flash a stock ROM over your current install and it'll essentially have the same effect as updating.

So what would you suggest - in case of me going to root it and use custom kernel and dalvik, should I go fully custom or at least stick to atock rom and eventualy update it with fastboot?
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unster said:
So what would you suggest - in case of me going to root it and use custom kernel and dalvik, should I go fully custom or at least stick to atock rom and eventualy update it with fastboot?
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I recommend fully customized. You'll have complete control over your device, be able to do things like multi boot ROMs through MultiROM, use the latest GPU drivers and the custom dalvik patches and kernels you are referring to.

It depends what you wanted. There are pretty rooted stock ROMs as flashable zips. This would be a Mich better (and easier) method than official OTA updates
Buy also, try custom ROMs too. There's a lot of variation out there.
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6.0 aosp rom w sprint support

I've tried a couple AOSP-based Marshmallow ROMs and none of them have the option to update Profile and Prl for Sprint. I know by definition AOSP shouldn't have this, since it's something propietary however is there a zip out there one can flash to bring this capability? I don't know if it's possible to take whatever allows this in the Factory Image and make it an add-on for all devs to possibly offer for their ROMs. But that would be .

Every aosp ROM I've used has it. Even the one marshmallow ROM I tried.
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Really? Well damn. But can you point me to one?
Thanks.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3218330
This is the one I tried
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jasonevil said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3218330
This is the one I tried
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That's stock based. AOSP based is the custom roms people build. I tried the chroma beta marshmallow rom and I couldnt even get data on sprint so i'm assuming there was an apn issue as usual. I'm waiting on Twisted Team to release their marshmallow rom because their lollipop rom worked pretty damn good on sprint.

Yea AOSP-based is what I meant.
Thanks for recommending Twisted!
I'm waiting for their M release.

uodii said:
That's stock based. AOSP based is the custom roms people build.
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People build custom ROM's based on stock and AOSP.
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Update on a stock rom. The prl and profile stick. Only caveat is if you have trouble you have to flash back to stock to do it again. The only reason to have to do this is if your data stops working for some reason.
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i just updated to cataclysm mm and it has the prl and profile update under more-cellular network-carrier settings. nice rom.

Jonnyredcorn said:
People build custom ROM's based on stock and AOSP.
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To be fair I think people add apks to most roms based on stock image and actually modify it very little, with the exception of cataclysm, which is heavily modded. AOSP based roms dont have Update Prl/Profile functionality by default because that comes with Sprint's proprietary software (just some additional apks) that needs to be added in.

What's the latest greatest ROM everyone is using for the Idol 3?

I rooted my 6045O last night and I'm excited to try a ROM on this phone. I seen the big thread on the CyanogenMod 12.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/ido...om-cyanogenmod-12-1-alcatel-onetouch-t3225533
But I wanna make sure it's the best ROM for this phone.

you cant read idol 3 section?

Wow thanks for being friendly to the new guy. As I stated, I seen the big thread on the CyanogenMod 12.1. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't a better ROM that you guys might know of before I put time into learning about that one.
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rlugo29 said:
I rooted my 6045O last night and I'm excited to try a ROM on this phone. I seen the big thread on the CyanogenMod 12.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/ido...om-cyanogenmod-12-1-alcatel-onetouch-t3225533
But I wanna make sure it's the best ROM for this phone.
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I'm not for sure either.great work on all though.I'm leaning toward the dcz rom cause from my understanding its fast,smooth and I like stock style roms.

I didn't see a DCZ thread?
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If you gonna flash a ROM know that besides dcz, only fully working ROM is cm12.1 also I'm using 60450

Ok so those are my options. Thanks. Do you know any pros/cons of one vs the other?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/development/rom-6045-i806-dcz-stock-oc-kernel-root-t3257511

Link is invalid
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rlugo29 said:
Ok so those are my options. Thanks. Do you know any pros/cons of one vs the other?
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Well do you want stock ROM with overclock kernel(DCZ) vs the beauty and customization of cyanogenmod?
All dcz rom is a almost fully debloated stock ROM and custom kernel made by team adrv.

903tex said:
Well do you want stock ROM with overclock kernel(DCZ) vs the beauty and customization of cyanogenmod?
All dcz rom is a almost fully debloated stock ROM and custom kernel made by team adrv.
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If the stock rom did not have such lag I'd suggest the majority stick with it unless you had a specific reason not to. Since it DOES have lag, I'd suggest the i806/DCZ rom since it is a version of stock that should eliminate the lag and work fully with the hardware. All the other rom's have issues of one type or another.
Resurrection Remix still has several things wrong..the camera off the top of my head. CM12.1 still has issues. Currently the cm12.1 dev does not have the device in hand...neither does the resurrection remix dev....working on rom's without the device is similar to driving blindfolded. You are guaranteed to get SOMEWHERE but it may not be where you want to be.
There are only 3 real roms available other than original stock and I HIGHLY recommend you backup your stock with twrp so you can go back to it for system updates. Why are the system updates so important if you are on another rom? They are the only way you can get modem driver mods/improvements among other things.

I'm not sure which I'd prefer at the moment. Guess I'll just read lol
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Cm 12.1 (10/29) is most stable on my idol 3 (6045i). Resurrection Remix is not stable. Random reboots, lag and speakers and cam don't work.
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Thanks for the tips. I do like performance and stability over anything. So I'll check out DCZ. I've already backed up stock.
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famewolf said:
If the stock rom did not have such lag I'd suggest the majority stick with it unless you had a specific reason not to. Since it DOES have lag, I'd suggest the i806/DCZ rom since it is a version of stock that should eliminate the lag and work fully with the hardware. All the other rom's have issues of one type or another.
Resurrection Remix still has several things wrong..the camera off the top of my head. CM12.1 still has issues. Currently the cm12.1 dev does not have the device in hand...neither does the resurrection remix dev....working on rom's without the device is similar to driving blindfolded. You are guaranteed to get SOMEWHERE but it may not be where you want to be.
There are only 3 real roms available other than original stock and I HIGHLY recommend you backup your stock with twrp so you can go back to it for system updates. Why are the system updates so important if you are on another rom? They are the only way you can get modem driver mods/improvements among other things.
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Are you talking about me?

903tex said:
Are you talking about me?
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Are you paranoid?

famewolf said:
Are you paranoid?
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Are you?

Sorry, wrong thread.