hello together,
i receveid my mi4c yesterday and noticed that the display has the above said issues, i think most of you should know what i mean, i come from a moto G (2015) and never had these problems on it...
both are IPS LCD, scrolling text is horrible on the xioami.. looks like the display has very high reaction and transition times...
so do i have a faulty unit or is this standard on this phone?
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i made the perfect test : www.testufo.com/#test=chase&background=404040&leading=FFFFFF&trail ing=00FFFF&distance=38&pps=600&height=180
i adjusted it so the trail of the white box touches the blue box wich is 38 distance in my case (moto g has 25)
if you have the same result on your phone than i know my phone is not faulty
i think it should be moved in q/a. you have a faulty unit, contact your seller as soon as possible !
alexvv said:
i think it should be moved in q/a. you have a faulty unit, contact your seller as soon as possible !
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do you actually have a mi4c or used one ?
Treach1 said:
hello together,
i receveid my mi4c yesterday and noticed that the display has the above said issues, i think most of you should know what i mean, i come from a moto G (2015) and never had these problems on it...
both are IPS LCD, scrolling text is horrible on the xioami.. looks like the display has very high reaction and transition times...
so do i have a faulty unit or is this standard on this phone?
if somebody has both phones, could you do a side by side comparison and tell me your results?
edit: if im in the wrong forum feel free to remove the thread admins and mods
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Doesn't seem to be blurred in any way... Of course I am using it with TS 12.1 PAC rom, not the def miui that had it in the 1st place.
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Treach1 said:
hello together,
i receveid my mi4c yesterday and noticed that the display has the above said issues, i think most of you should know what i mean, i come from a moto G (2015) and never had these problems on it...
both are IPS LCD, scrolling text is horrible on the xioami.. looks like the display has very high reaction and transition times...
so do i have a faulty unit or is this standard on this phone?
if somebody has both phones, could you do a side by side comparison and tell me your results?
edit: if im in the wrong forum feel free to remove the thread admins and mods
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Mind creating some videos? I believe most of us here don't have such a problem, it's very likely you have a faulty unit.
leledumbo said:
Mind creating some videos? I believe most of us here don't have such a problem, it's very likely you have a faulty unit.
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videos didnt capture it good so i made photos
top is moto g, bottom mi4c
imgur.com/a/GsYn3
you can see the mi4c has 1 ufo more trailing behind
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i made the perfect test : .testufo.com/#test=chase&background=404040&leading=FFFFFF&trailing=00FFFF&distance=38&pps=600&height=180
i adjusted it so the trail of the white box touches the blue box wich is 38 distance in my case, you have to do the test at full brightness (moto g has 25)
if you have the same result on your phone than i know my phone is not faulty
you have to type www infront of the URL because i am new here and i cant post them
Treach1 said:
videos didnt capture it good so i made photos
top is moto g, bottom mi4c
imgur.com/a/GsYn3
you can see the mi4c has 1 ufo more trailing behind
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i made the perfect test : .testufo.com/#test=chase&background=404040&leading=FFFFFF&trailing=00FFFF&distance=46&pps=600&height=180
i adjusted it so the trail of the white box touches the blue box wich is 46 distance in my case (moto g has 25)
if you have the same result on your phone than i know my phone is not faulty
you have to type www infront of the URL because i am new here and i cant post them
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i've tried the link and i need 20 as distance to make the boxes touch
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i've tried the link and i need 20 as distance to make the boxes touch
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Did you do it at full brightness?
My white box hits the blue box at about 38 also, running CM12.1 and using chrome. I've never noticed this before and don't really see it when scrolling text.
Not ruling out faulty units but everyone is going to say theirs is different because everyone's eyes are different. Similar argument on computer monitors with TN/IPS and refresh rates etc some people cant stand the ghosting and others say they cannot see it.
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just thought I'd add I have run the authenticator app when I was on miui and all came back ok.
Weird how there seem to be different results.. Am I mistaken or did I read that different models might have different LCD panels? Like one was Sharp.. Would there be any way to find this out?
38 here too.
Good job tho. You should post this test to the MIUI Forum. Probably in the mi4c section.
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i've tried the link and i need 20 as distance to make the boxes touch
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i highly doubt your result to be honest.. since 2 people already had around 38 also
The refresh rate of the screen is 60Hz (although sometimes it scales dynamically in order to save power) so it can display 60 frames per second with vsync which are a lot for a human eye to process without blurring. So I think that the blurring happens because of our eyes not the screen, therefore this test is not valid.
Doesn't touch even at 20:
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A screenshot won't show it, when it's running you are looking for the faint white ghosting behind the white box to touch the blue box.
Ydraulikos said:
The refresh rate of the screen is 60Hz (although sometimes it scales dynamically in order to save power) so it can display 60 frames per second with vsync which are a lot for a human eye to process without blurring. So I think that the blurring happens because of our eyes not the screen, therefore this test is not valid.
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My god you are so dense its not even funny anymore... You have not the slightest idea what is happening here so please....
Treach1 said:
i highly doubt your result to be honest.. since 2 people already had around 38 also
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sorry, forgot to turn off adaptive backlight...
however my results from mi4c (first) and moto g
we need to compare to another 5" fullhd for the test to be honest
ice-it said:
sorry, forgot to turn off adaptive backlight...
however my results from mi4c (first) and moto g
we need to compare to another 5" fullhd for the test to be honest
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Dude a digital camera cant capture the difference, only a old analog one can do it
You can test, but its confirmed...the display is crap in terms of motion clarity most 100$ phones beat it...
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Dude a digital camera cant capture the difference, only a old analog one can do it
You can test, but its confirmed...the display is crap in terms of motion clarity most 100$ phones beat it...
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can i ask you a simple question? Are you stupid or crazy? maybe you're just a TROLL
digital camera CAN capture the difference and you can see it from my pics
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can i ask you a simple question? Are you stupid or crazy? maybe you're just a TROLL
digital camera CAN capture the difference and you can see it from my pics
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No im not a troll, did u even capture it in hi-speed mode?
Did you see the pictures i took in my posts?
Who do you think you are calling me stupid???
Do so even have the slightest idea how displays work? Do you know that OLED and CRT have no blur at all? Do you know that CSMOS camera Sensors work different than old analog ones?
You ran both phones side by side, wich one was better? The moto g right?
Edit: what i mean is an analog camera would take the picture like you see it with your eyes, you would See 1 square with a trail, not 3-4 shifted squares
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Just got my TP today, I like it very much but what I don't like is the Yelowish display.
I had a Kaiser before and the display was lovely Blueish and very bright.
Is this normal for TP to have Yelowish display? or should I take it back for exchange?
Pleas advice
Best Regards
shafez said:
Just got my TP today, I like it very much but what I don't like is the Yelowish display.
I had a Kaiser before and the display was lovely Blueish and very bright.
Is this normal for TP to have Yelowish display? or should I take it back for exchange?
Pleas advice
Best Regards
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Does not sound normal to me, better have it exchanged!
branko.savic said:
Does not sound normal to me, better have it exchanged!
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Just read the following thread in the diamond forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411487
It seems that some of the Diamond have Yellowish display and some with the Blueish display.
Very confusing.
Regards
Seems that I am the only one with this problem since there are 41 views and only one reply
Thank you
My new TP is surprisingly being the same condition as you. It attracted me cos its VGA screen. However, compare with my old 818pro, it does not get bit advantage on screen, but come out yellowish.
Do you seem to feel excessive overheating with your phone?
Do you leave it on the charger for a long time?
Do you use non-OEM batteries?
Kraize92 said:
Do you seem to feel excessive overheating with your phone?
Do you leave it on the charger for a long time?
Do you use non-OEM batteries?
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What is all the above got to do with a Yellowish display tint?
no yellow tint here... I mean this sounds strange...
It's probably the same situation as with the Diamond- 2 different suppliers for the screens. If more people chime in then maybe we can see if there are more people who've stayed silent but also have yellowish screens. Mine is white and bright, but I've had my TP for a month and it's probably from a different batch.
Mine is slightly more yellow compared to my Tytn, but nothing annoying.
Hmm mine isn't yellowish, but i do have other screen problems, like teksts that seem to "Burn in" or are still visible on the volume control screen...
Do you also have that problem or only the yellowish ?
A picture is worth a million words, let us see what your talking about. A yellowish screen could be cause by a bad or broken screen cable like it would happen on some laptops after time but that on the phone doesn't sound normal at all especially a new one. If you post a picture maybe we can see your problem. I haven't got mine yet so I have no idea what users are talking about when they say mine is sometimes yellowish or blue.
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Hmm mine isn't yellowish, but i do have other screen problems, like teksts that seem to "Burn in" or are still visible on the volume control screen...
Do you also have that problem or only the yellowish ?
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This is not a screen problem, only the volumescreen that is semi transparant.
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This is not a screen problem, only the volumescreen that is semi transparant.
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its also visible on the boot screen that says "Touch Pro" so it must be a screen / software problem
Thank you all for your replies, I took the phone to HTC and compared it with other phones there and they were all the same.
Seems that they use different types of display or from another manufacturer.
So I just returned it to them and got my mony back as I discovered this before I use the phone.
I did notice that the device they had there as a demo evice was different than mine and the display was like the Kaiser display but they refused to give me another device as the phone is working properly.
Best regards
Um, better get it exchanged then pal...
Yellowish LCD and terrible in different angle-viewing
Yellowish LCD and terrible in different Viewing-angle!
Noam23 said:
I know that I'm not the only one reporting this, but I'm the first one to provide pictures and video that prove that the problem is not so small as some might think.
It seems HTC started to use lower quality LCD screens with some (maybe all) of the newer Diamond units. These screens have a yellowish tint, and seem to have lower contrast.
Here is the proof (it's a comparison with my old Kaiser):
(both devices are at maximum backlight, and the Diamond's "auto backlight" option is off)
Pictures:
http://img45.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=10590_Picture_003_122_764lo.jpg
http://img24.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=10597_Picture_005_122_672lo.jpg
The difference seen in the picture is a bit exaggarated in comparison to what I see in real life (even though I did not touch the picture with any editing software, this is right from the camera), so I've included a video too, which more accurately portray the differences:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cVGORLm-Qc
(in real life the difference is just a bit more pronounced than in this video)
It is important to notice that without a direct comparison to a unit like the Kaiser (or the first batch of Diamonds), it might be hard to know that your Diamond has this phenomena, because even with this phenomena the screen look decent.
My fear is that both types of LCD screens are going to sell with new Diamond units from now on, making those who bought the yellowish screen unable to ever sell the unit for a decent amount of money (when they feel like upgrading).
We need a formal answer from HTC regarding this issue.
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Here are two Diamonds I have on me right now. Notice the color washout on one of it. Both are having the same ROM and brightness settings.
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ou2mame said:
i just received my replacement touch pro, and the screen is very yellowish, compared to the crisp white screen of my older one... anyone else experience this? i'm going to have to call sprint and have them mail me another one.
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Me too, I was sending my TP to repair after using it for 2 months, due some really dissapointed problem like the LCD screen bottom corner peeling off and sliding keyboard starting to become not align with the body.
So they said they're going to replace the LCD 1st and return to me while waiting for the new stock of sliding keyboard. So I just got back my TP from SIS (HTC Malaysian Distributor) today, and found that the screen became VERY yellowish and terrible in different angle-viewing, besides, the new LCD screen viewing angle is terrible, some more fading off and cloudy, like covered with a greyish+yellowish cloud like that!
I did complain to the girl @ SIS, but she said she can't do anything! "this is the NEW BATCH of original screen from HTC!"
But after 'google' thru the net, I've found a lot of other country Touch Pro/Diamond has this issue. And get replaced a new one for them by HTC. Then why Malaysian can't?! This is unfair!!!!!
DON'T BE SILENT! LET'S SHOUT THIS OUT LOUD TILL THEY REPLACE IT FOR US!!! Check this out, more others has this dissapointing & terrible quality problem for this expensive device!!!
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/785754/+2080
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=50388
I was going to suggest getting an eye test, but there's an obvious difference.
It's scandalous (for Diamond owners anyway)
Like almost everyone, I had to wait 3 weeks for my moto g to come in, and when it finally did...one week later I had to send it back for repair. :/
The screen was really bad in certain areas, mainly the top 1/2 inch all the way across and the bottom left corner, about a thumb size portion of the screen. When ever I would view a picture in FB or IG, watch a movie or pictures from my gallery, if there was a bright spot "bright white" in particular, it would display yellow pixels or lines in just that area.
It had no problem rendering colors, just bright white. Like a light bulb, sky, snow things like that in any sort of media, pics, videos or apps. I used the screen overlay in the developers option to show the areas that have problems with rendering and sure enough the areas I mentioned before show up with an overlay of red to show that those parts of the screen do indeed have problems.
I don't know how this problem passed quality control. Maybe because they where so backed up with orders, they wanted to get them out asap. I dont know, but now im out a phone for at least a week maybe more.
thankfully they paid for shipping both ways. lets just hope they dont send my phone back saying there is nothing wrong with it. Just thought I'd share my story in case anyone else had the same problem. Thanxs.
Same here
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I've seen this problem on 3 MotoGs'. The lower left corner brightness can be slightly fixed by unscrewing a little the corresponding screw inside the case. Apparently not all people notice this. And another problem, the earspeaker is buzzing on high volume when the other party is talking, to a certain degree, on all units I've checked.
rioachim said:
I've seen this problem on 3 MotoGs'. The lower left corner brightness can be slightly fixed by unscrewing a little the corresponding screw inside the case. Apparently not all people notice this. And another problem, the earspeaker is buzzing on high volume when the other party is talking, to a certain degree, on all units I've checked.
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So loosening the screen will fix the display?
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Walliser said:
The phenomenon of death often arise during use, due to component quality has decreased over time. In theory, could not overcome, or limit the phenomenon of dead spots appear on the screen. However, in many cases you can restore the dead center for a massage by screen. How do fairly simple, you need to remove the cover, protective glass screen that can be exposed directly to the screen. Now, remember the dead pixel position, then turn off the phone. Use your fingers lightly rubbing the area dead center, then press and hold the power on the phone. Wait for the screen to light up and slowly drop your finger off the screen. Make a couple of times so constantly, that pixel can be recovered.
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I'm sorry but this is Google translate at its worse lol :laugh:
Are You talking about this?? The icon is full white but you can see a yellow line just on the white fades into letters
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hell_awaits said:
Are You talking about this?? The icon is full white but you can see a yellow line just on the white fades into letters
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This is the same problem I have. I've returned one unit back to the seller and now I have this on the new one they've sent as a replacement. As if some shade of white has a problem and then turns into yellow. Also some icons (e.g blue google icon) display a green line over them (blue and yellow mix?) i You will notice this the best when there is a lot of black color on the display (e.g. applications menu). Try swiping the application menu pages slowly and see how this yellowness comes and goes. I'm giving up on Moto G because of this.
Just send that one back as well. Don't blame the phone as a whole because you got unlucky twice. My friend had to send his back too and they just gave him a new one.
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KabelGuy said:
Just send that one back as well. Don't blame the phone as a whole because you got unlucky twice. My friend had to send his back too and they just gave him a new one.
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I'm not blaming the phone. I still think it's a great deal. But two times is enough for me to realize that less money means less quality. They obviously didn't reduce the price by kicking out the charger and the earphones.
rmpalija01 said:
I'm not blaming the phone. I still think it's a great deal. But two times is enough for me to realize that less money means less quality. They obviously didn't reduce the price by kicking out the charger and the earphones.
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That's fair enough. I still disagree but I see your point.
(I haven't had issues of any kind with my device, so for me it's just been a super great deal.)
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I had the same problem with my first device, but so far so good on the second one.
In india they are shipping it with charger nd headphones...makes you wonder hmm
So I found out that my Moto G had the same issue. I didn't do anything about it, I thought it was a software bug. But when the same bug was on CM, I realized it's my device. It got pretty frustrating to see all these yellow spots on perfectly white displays. The good news is that I managed to fix it.
In case anyone else has this same problem, I recommend that you send it back if possible. If not, here's a solution that worked for me
1. Install this : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.haxor
2. Set it to 80%
There will be absolutely no more of these annoying yellow patches anymore. I guarantee it.
I, too, have seen this issue. In the brightest highlights of white, yellow replaces white. My best guess is that this is a sign of a failing GPU or video memory. It is either a hardware issue or a very low-level software issue. It is definitely not the normal behavior for the Moto G. The workaround by Vedarshi will allow you not to see the yellow, but also lowers the maximum brightness available to you, so it is not a true solution. For those who have seen this problem, has it always been on receipt of the devices or has this shown up over time for anyone?
It's been there from day 1. I personally do not feel that my screen looks dim. It is still readable, even in sunlight.
Me too have the same prob.
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Hello guys , i too have to the same issue, right from the 1st day. today i received the fone and heres the stuff. The phone has some problem with the shades of white. and it appears Yellow while swiping. heres some screen shots of my Moto G.
Have a look at some of the White Pics with the yellow color effect. !!
I'm sorry but, why complain on here? Send it back to your retailer. They have to either offer to repair..( iwouldnt personally go for a repair job with screens cause it can be 10000 things causing it and replacing the screen and digilizer might not work) or replace...
I Have similar issue
With any white or brightly coloured aspect of the screen, I always see blue lines go from the brightly coloured shape and up to the top of the screen if I have my keyboard open for example (android lollipop or google keyboard with material light skin) it would leave one big line up the screen giving it a blueish haze, the for a clock on my homescreen, there are blue lines that come off the top to the top of the screen. This also occurs in the boot animation, the whole screen is left with a blue haze. Maybe this is something to do with Motorola making a budget device and so they give it a display that is easily damaged by its own brightness? Maybe? I don't know. Are there any known fixes for this?
Thanks
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Clarkiieh said:
I'm sorry but, why complain on here? Send it back to your retailer. They have to either offer to repair..( iwouldnt personally go for a repair job with screens cause it can be 10000 things causing it and replacing the screen and digilizer might not work) or replace...
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That's all great getting a replacement unit but this seems to be a very common issue, therefore, there is a high chance that the new one will have the same issue. Also, everyone is posting here because we wish to know how widespread the issue is, which is now apparant and if anyone knows of a reason or potential fix for the issue. Hope that cleared things up for you
I've seen a few threads discussing this issue and even xperiablog picked it up today.
But in the end, I think what's most important is how general users see and feel about it.
So I'd like to hear your voice.
Note: No need to prove anything. You can be completely subjective
Added: XZs has the same camera and the same issue, so XZs users are also welcome to participate. as well!
yyiimm said:
I've seen a few threads discussing this issue and even xperiablog picked it up today.
But in the end, I think what's most important is how general users see and feel about it.
So I'd like to hear your voice.
Note: No need to prove anything. You can be completely subjective
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I personally haven't noticed it in any of the pictures I've taken so far, but I don't take a ton of pictures either. I have noticed that if you don't give it ample time to focus the pictures turn out terrible. The focus isn't as fast as advertised in my experience.
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Hi!
I call this one a scene from Inception
The middle building is falling same with those on the left
Take a look at this post:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2017/06/2...d&utm_campaign=Feed:+XperiaBlog+(Xperia+Blog)
There are some interesting explainations about this.
Haven't seen any distortion whatsoever. I tried taking shots of grids to reproduce. Do you have to be a certain distance? I'm very happy with the camera so far.
Does anyone know a way to minimize distortion?
Quote from XperiaBlog comment:
I recently became the proud owner of an Xperia XZ Premium. I spent this morning trying to fix distorted images of a lighthouse with what should have been a straight horizon. Then I read this article.
I contacted Sony and told them about the problem, and they gave me a fix. I've been told in the settings, under Superior auto, scroll down to the More options. On Auto-capturing select Smile Shutter. (Actually, they asked me to reduce the resolution to 17Mp 16:9 before setting to Smile Shutter - then I could change back to 19Mp 4:3 - not sure this is necessary.)
I'm very sceptical, but over the next couple of days I shall try and get back to the coast for a decent horizon with which to test it.
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Take a look at this post:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2017/06/2...d&utm_campaign=Feed:+XperiaBlog+(Xperia+Blog)
There are some interesting explainations about this.
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hardware issue for sure ,sony should at least fix as much as possible like Samsung
Forwarding:
samsung start selling their S7&S7e model in March last year, some users feedback camera with distortion issue to the samsung official forum, which is the pincushion distortion just like XZP ,but not bad as XZP level. And samsung developer wrote quick reply which said they will study to fix the problem ,After three weeks the S7&S7E received a new FW upgrade which come with a new camera options SHAPE CORRECTION. Yes,when you focusing still can see the distortion on screen,but saved photo has been corrected close to perfect.
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Found this issue few days ago when four guys joint photo every one have distortion head and shortened body. Swap back iphone ,much better.
[email protected] said:
Found this issue few days ago when four guys joint photo every one have distortion head and shortened body. Swap back iphone ,much better.
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Yeah, I've seen a few photos with person. The distortion is sometimes obvious with even no-liner object.
I do have this issue....
SONY needs to fix it.
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Lol. This is really bad....
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yyiimm said:
Does anyone know a way to minimize distortion?
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Found this issue few days ago when four guys joint photo every one have distortion head and shortened body. Swap back iphone ,much better.
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You mean like my one
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I swear I tried various angles,the best effect I can get.Actualy the middle ladies and holding kid has lengthened head too.You will not feel easily because you are not familiar with.Try shoot a picture similar this one and move head up a little bit,OMG!!!
I got confus, someone said sony looking into it and fix it ,some one said sony will not, which one is it?
If it is not I will get refund, go for a S8 ,I tried it really great quality without distortion.
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You mean like my one
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I swear I tried various angles,the best effect I can get.Actualy the middle ladies and holding kid has lengthened head too.You will not feel easily because you are not familiar with.Try shoot a picture similar this one and move head up a little bit,OMG!!!
I got confus, someone said sony looking into it and fix it ,some one said sony will not, which one is it?
If it is not I will get refund, go for a S8 ,I tried it really great quality without distortion.
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Omg, this is far beyond acceptable level of distortion....
Very unacceptable
They definitely CAN fix this with software and hopefully they will, although I wouldn't get my hopes up as the XZs has the same problem and it still isn't fixed.
phoneArena picked up the issue as well.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/User...emium-camera-distortion-Sony-responds_id95285
Hope other sites follow so that SONY reconsider their response.
I have taken lots of photos, I can reproduce it when trying, like taking a close up photo of my black framed posters, they look bent. But normal everyday photos I was taking look great to me, one I took I thought would be a good example, the flags are pretty straight as they were in real life (they are in the ground at a sort of "U" not lined up straight in real life also as seen in the photo), while other people photos they would of been tilted. Another phtos shows the trees and stuff in the background look as they were in real life also, everything seems normal. I know It is unacceptable from what others are experiencing and I'm pretty sure Sony will get some sort of fix out for people, but it seems others are more affected than other people. I really cant complain about the photos I got out of it so far.
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I have taken lots of photos, I can reproduce it when trying, like taking a close up photo of my black framed posters, they look bent. But normal everyday photos I was taking look great to me, one I took I thought would be a good example, the flags are pretty straight as they were in real life (they are in the ground at a sort of "U" not lined up straight in real life also as seen in the photo), while other people photos they would of been tilted. Another phtos shows the trees and stuff in the background look as they were in real life also, everything seems normal. I know It is unacceptable from what others are experiencing and I'm pretty sure Sony will get some sort of fix out for people, but it seems others are more affected than other people. I really cant complain about the photos I got out of it so far.
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see this you will know
see this sony official dancing woman's photos (above photo)from XZP you can find in your phone,The distortion has been already there very serious, just that wall have bad workmanship make you think it is.Do a anti color you will see the serious distortion just absolutely same as XZP distortion map below .( borrowed from other user analysi post)
look at the merger photo here you will see the coincide curve line.You know what is the most coincidence part that this little woman's head and body just inside the blue box area where have less distortion.XZP review online they all took photo from long distant landscape,no close-range or people so we can see the issue very coincidental .S PHONE and IPHONE review usually have close range shoot and close portrait.
See this official photos.Whether use any angle to shoot these light bulbs should be regular spherical,rgiht ?! But the one closest to the yellow safe area has been distort absolutely serious already.I'm not saying that wide angle don't have distortion, But this level ..........!This is definitely not a photographer and perspective problem.Also the "curve line" certainly affected distortion.
Now the light bulb photo and map explained why my photo will be seriously deformed ,and also explained that no matter what angle and composition I try I can't get one normal photo .Explained that why I use a 4:3 scale will have even more elongate head,also more and more in single person photo like below. (borrow from other user) Exactly same issue like my traveler's photos,which they Complained about.
This is not an ordinary perspective and wide-angle problem or what ever industry standards is.More like a failed lens design ,what is the point to use the lens like that ? Mobile phone camera should be to allow users to take pictures more easily than professional camera.Most users will not use the phone to shoot master style landscape photos. Most of them are normal shooting for ordinary live photo.If this phone designed for some landscape and flowers which are random shape please put it in the ad and packaging.Also even the landscape you can see the distortion easily than other phone.
My old note5 and the new S8 I tried ,Safe area it is roughly in green box see above photo.
I see the user here said that if cut some pixels may be able to get less distortion.If so, I would agree and accept too.And also like Samsung make a late correct option on software would be grateful.
Can you post the link to the original SONY photo? Just wanna make sure if it's from XZP
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Can you post the link to the original SONY photo? Just wanna make sure if it's from XZP
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It's come from the XZP mobile built-in memory,only find light bulbs one reight ,here on sony Sony official website.
https://www.sonymobile.com/us/products/phones/xperia-xz-premium/
Before I bought it see some where they post all the sample before,trying to find the link.
Hello guys i have a question: is it normal that i can see horizontal and vertical lines forming something like a pixel grid ( maybe it's the pixel grid itself) on the screen especially while watching white images with high brightness? Is it something that every xz premium have or is it just a problem of my Phone?*
Thanks for everyone that Will help me. This thing is Making me pretty sad because the screen look like an old (really old) generation one
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Sounds like a defect, you should RMA that phone asap.
Can you take a picture of what you are seeing with another camera?
I've tryed but my cameras aren't able to focus on such micro details. The lines im talking about are perpendicular to the edges and form micro squares just like a pixel grid; its an hardware thing not some effect showed from the display. I Hope that i have explained it better and sorry for my English. Thanks a lot for helping me.*
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Really strange, I would also suggest returning your phone. I personally can see a slight zig-zag pattern when the screen is at full brightness showing pure white.
Or maybe it's just my brain playing tricks on me...
Yeah it's like a texture on the screen and not only with white, with every light color like green light Grey and light blue for example in Facebook is visible everywhere.
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I got some pics. Look for example at the chrome icon. It's pixellated like in an iPhone 3gs. This is all clearly visible in all the screen just with certain colours is more evident. http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/594ea14fc7c1c/image1-1.JPG
http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/594ea15d154ca/image1.JPG
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I have the same 'problem'. I believe all XZP phones will have it as it is caused by the strange pixel arrangement, so exchanging your phone won't change anything.
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I have the same 'problem'. I believe all XZP phones will have it as it is caused by the strange pixel arrangement, so exchanging your phone won't change anything.
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this make me sad cause i can clearly see it with naked eyes and. i was expecting best display ww and get a pixellated one like an iPhone 3gs lmao such a joke.
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I think if the pixels were completely straight and vertical we wouldn't notice this effect as much. After all this is a 4K display with 806 ppi so our eyes shouldn't be able to distinguish between the individual pixels. I'd like to check out the S8's screen and see if I can notice a similar effect as well.
I see the same thing on my XZ Premium. I can see the pattern quite easily when I browse the internet in bed. My HTC U11 looks far sharper at the same distance. Even my Mate 9 (1080p @ 5.9") looks sharper... I do see some sort of pattern on the HTC U11 and Mate 9, but it is a more subtle pattern that doesn't jump out at you as much as the XZ Premium.
I am assuming this issue is probably just a combination of the odd pixel layout and whatever sub-pixel interpolation Sony is doing to upscale 1080p to 2160p. It is a little disappointing to see this so easily on the screen.
At first I thought I had a defective phone since every review is talking about the insane ppi and how sharp everything is... I guess there are some people like us who see this pattern more easily than others...
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I'd like to look at a LG G6 screen and compare. It also has a zig-zag pixel pattern.
Strange that no reviewers noticed this pattern on the XZP. I've also tried to load a 4k white image and upon close inspection nothing changed, so I don't thing the up-scaling is to blame here.
Here are pictures of my Mate 9 and U11 for comparison's sake. These patterns are difficult to see with the naked eye unless I look close and very carefully.
I only notice the screen resolution being set tp full hd, try a 4k movie and I don't see any grid like stuff anymore
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I only notice the screen resolution being set tp full hd, try a 4k movie and I don't see any grid like stuff anymore
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https://youtu.be/a1qUCspct0w
Look at the skie in this 4k video (yes I've setted it in 4k).i can clearly see the pixellation in light colours like in the skie. What about you?
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I can also see the grid on bright/white colors. Very dissapointing for a 4k display with high ppi
I've tried all test device in stores and also see the lines. Even with my own device
remember there is a digitiser in there guys,
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remember there is a digitiser in there guys,
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I don't think it's from the digitizer.
deguzman.maru said:
I don't think it's from the digitizer.
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Maybe, maybe not
Hello fellow XDA people.
I recently acquired a second Honor 9 unit which is the Midnight Black. My first one is a Blue. There seem to be a few hardware differences between these two units. First of all is the screen and I seriously doubt they are made by the same manufacturer because of their obvious differences. The main difference is the viewing angles that differs hugely. My blue unit has really amazing viewing angles for being an LCD while the black unit loses a lot of its brightness very quickly and looks way more dull from an angle. Also the white balance differ a lot between the two the blue one has a more blur/green shift to it while the black untit has a much more warm and "fuller" white balance to it. It's impossible to calibrate them to look the same they are just different. The blue units screen look somewhat duller in comparison even though it wins easily in viewing angles. The black unit has more contrast and just generally looks more "lifelike" and warmer. It's also the most even screen I have ever seen in terms of uniformity (not that the blue one is bad). The glas front also has a different "texture" across the screen. On the blue I can really only see the digitizer marks but on the black I have this other small faint "sparkling dots" effect that some screen protectors can give at times. Nothing serious but it's there and the glas on the blue unit looks a little clearer.
The second difference is the fingerprint reader. It's waay faster on the blue unit while it's much much slower on the black one when I compare. One the blue it's instant I can't even make it fault even if I try to tap very fast. The one on the black unit has this delay and it's clearly not as fast to read my finger. The black unit also has a small delay when pressing it to go back to the homescreen while it does it instantly on the blue one which makes it feels faster in operation.
Both has touch screen issues and both run B130 firmware. The black one unfortunately shipped with B130. However there are differences here too the black one has more severe touch problems than the blue. The touch is seriously borked on the black one with both delays and lags and it's harder to use because of this. To the border of unusable really. Something must be seriously wrong with the software that makes the touch go bonkers I doubt I have hardware fault with both of them that makes them behave a little differently. Guessing this is mainly why updates have been pulled by Huawei.
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Return the black one and ask for a replacement immediately
For sure this is a prove that they use different factorys for screens but this is not a news because many brands to this ( xiaomi is the first I could mention ), to me this is a case of bad or not perfect gluing of digitizer on the black one. Was a different font used between the two too or?
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Return the black one and ask for a replacement immediately
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In fact I prefer the display on the black one it looks much better so I don't want to get rid of it specially not when I have gotten such a perfect screen regarding uniformity I never get very lucky with this historically. I will wait for software update and see if it fixes things in the end they both have the same problem that I haven't seen on any of the 4 units I have tested in store with B100.
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For sure this is a prove that they use different factorys for screens but this is not a news because many brands to this ( xiaomi is the first I could mention ), to me this is a case of bad or not perfect gluing of digitizer on the black one. Was a different font used between the two too or?
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It feels like it's software issue how the touch behaves really and not hardware. Both has same problem with delay when I scroll but it differs some between the two in feeling. Will wait for software update.
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I'm running on B130 and don't have any lags
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It's not really lag. It's some thing were it takes the screen a few millimeters of swiping before content starts moving. Taps and such are instant while typing on keyoard so the digitizer doesn't lag in itself. We are many with this problem and for most the issue apperared after updating to B130 while it was fine on B100.
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It's not really lag. It's some thing were it takes the screen a few millimeters of swiping before content starts moving. Taps and such are instant while typing on keyoard so the digitizer doesn't lag in itself. We are many with this problem and for most the issue apperared after updating to B130 while it was fine on B100.
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B130 got pulled apparently
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B130 got pulled apparently
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As well as B120. They must have problems with the updates and their reasons for pulling them.
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As well as B120. They must have problems with the updates and their reasons for pulling them.
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Yes, as lots of users were complaining about it.
What makes me wonder is, why they didn't provide a rollback package to b100?!
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Yes, as lots of users were complaining about it.
What makes me wonder is, why they didn't provide a rollback package to b100?!
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Good question I would really like one.
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Good question I would really like one.
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Unfortunately, it looks honor didn't think about users who updated to b120 or b130
How to delete a XDA post?... I read something wrong here and my post got really off topic due to my mistake - I'm sorry ?
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How to delete a XDA post?... I read something wrong here and my post got really off topic due to my mistake - I'm sorry ?
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I definitely have a little better battery life on the black one. It just seems more energy efficient. Perhaps the screen is more power efficient than the other variant I don't know. But something it is as I feel it has about 10-20% better battery life than the blue unit.
Also, today out of nowhere the delay went away when pressing the fingerprint reader to go back to the homescreen. It's just instant on the black unit now too. Didn't change a thing which seems weird. Oh well I don't complain.
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So which one is better in your opinion
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-battery
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-Screen: definitely the black unit. It has way better contrast and much better whites. The screen just "pops" more on the black. The screen on the blue looks a bit dull in comparison. However the viewing angles on the blue are much much better. Don't really care though because it's me who's gonna use the unit and not someone beside me.
-Battery: the black one seems to have some kind of advantage. The same usage that gives me 5 hour SOT on the blue gives me around 6 hours on the black. I'm guessing the display is a little more power efficient perhaps.
-Fingerprint reader: the one on the blue is much faster to read my fingers. It definitely wins this one.
Besides those points I have not really noticed anything more that seems to differ.