Hello guys i have a question: is it normal that i can see horizontal and vertical lines forming something like a pixel grid ( maybe it's the pixel grid itself) on the screen especially while watching white images with high brightness? Is it something that every xz premium have or is it just a problem of my Phone?*
Thanks for everyone that Will help me. This thing is Making me pretty sad because the screen look like an old (really old) generation one
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Sounds like a defect, you should RMA that phone asap.
Can you take a picture of what you are seeing with another camera?
I've tryed but my cameras aren't able to focus on such micro details. The lines im talking about are perpendicular to the edges and form micro squares just like a pixel grid; its an hardware thing not some effect showed from the display. I Hope that i have explained it better and sorry for my English. Thanks a lot for helping me.*
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Really strange, I would also suggest returning your phone. I personally can see a slight zig-zag pattern when the screen is at full brightness showing pure white.
Or maybe it's just my brain playing tricks on me...
Yeah it's like a texture on the screen and not only with white, with every light color like green light Grey and light blue for example in Facebook is visible everywhere.
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I got some pics. Look for example at the chrome icon. It's pixellated like in an iPhone 3gs. This is all clearly visible in all the screen just with certain colours is more evident. http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/594ea14fc7c1c/image1-1.JPG
http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/594ea15d154ca/image1.JPG
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I have the same 'problem'. I believe all XZP phones will have it as it is caused by the strange pixel arrangement, so exchanging your phone won't change anything.
MuffinBomber said:
I have the same 'problem'. I believe all XZP phones will have it as it is caused by the strange pixel arrangement, so exchanging your phone won't change anything.
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this make me sad cause i can clearly see it with naked eyes and. i was expecting best display ww and get a pixellated one like an iPhone 3gs lmao such a joke.
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I think if the pixels were completely straight and vertical we wouldn't notice this effect as much. After all this is a 4K display with 806 ppi so our eyes shouldn't be able to distinguish between the individual pixels. I'd like to check out the S8's screen and see if I can notice a similar effect as well.
I see the same thing on my XZ Premium. I can see the pattern quite easily when I browse the internet in bed. My HTC U11 looks far sharper at the same distance. Even my Mate 9 (1080p @ 5.9") looks sharper... I do see some sort of pattern on the HTC U11 and Mate 9, but it is a more subtle pattern that doesn't jump out at you as much as the XZ Premium.
I am assuming this issue is probably just a combination of the odd pixel layout and whatever sub-pixel interpolation Sony is doing to upscale 1080p to 2160p. It is a little disappointing to see this so easily on the screen.
At first I thought I had a defective phone since every review is talking about the insane ppi and how sharp everything is... I guess there are some people like us who see this pattern more easily than others...
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I'd like to look at a LG G6 screen and compare. It also has a zig-zag pixel pattern.
Strange that no reviewers noticed this pattern on the XZP. I've also tried to load a 4k white image and upon close inspection nothing changed, so I don't thing the up-scaling is to blame here.
Here are pictures of my Mate 9 and U11 for comparison's sake. These patterns are difficult to see with the naked eye unless I look close and very carefully.
I only notice the screen resolution being set tp full hd, try a 4k movie and I don't see any grid like stuff anymore
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I only notice the screen resolution being set tp full hd, try a 4k movie and I don't see any grid like stuff anymore
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https://youtu.be/a1qUCspct0w
Look at the skie in this 4k video (yes I've setted it in 4k).i can clearly see the pixellation in light colours like in the skie. What about you?
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I can also see the grid on bright/white colors. Very dissapointing for a 4k display with high ppi
I've tried all test device in stores and also see the lines. Even with my own device
remember there is a digitiser in there guys,
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remember there is a digitiser in there guys,
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I don't think it's from the digitizer.
deguzman.maru said:
I don't think it's from the digitizer.
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Maybe, maybe not
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Im wondering if the Samsung Infuse 4G suffers the same issue with the Galaxy S2's screen issues..
1.) Yellow tinting
2.) Left side is darker than the right
3.) Huge color temperature swings from unit to unit
4.) Difference of white brightness
5.) Visible suction cup marks
6.) White blotches on the screen when a gray image is displayed
7.) Color banding
Any input is appreciated, pictures are also welcome especially if its the notification tray dropped down.
I personally have not had any of those issues that i can recall or that i can tell.
At the very very bottom of my screen on the Infuse there is a noticeable tearing or bending...whatever you want to call it. I have seen 4 with this small imperfection. Maybe it was a bad batch.
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I think it is an intended effect. (bottom of screen) It's really noticeable when you scroll through text.
The issues the OP mentioned, I've seen none of.
It's clearly not an intended effect. It's only the bottom row of pixels anyway.
None of those other problems I have in the slightest.
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Can you read this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079444
No problems of any sort here.
Yes! Finally a reason to have zero doubts about not waiting for the SGSII . My screen looks great
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Yes! Finally a reason to have zero doubts about not waiting for the SGSII . My screen looks great
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Can you post a photo?
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At the very very bottom of my screen on the Infuse there is a noticeable tearing or bending...whatever you want to call it. I have seen 4 with this small imperfection. Maybe it was a bad batch.
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I have that on mine.
I don't mind it enough to replace my phone.
Leggenda said:
Can you read this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079444
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tried that page. I do not get the yellow tint at any brightness from what I can tell.
Of my phone?
No. I have had none of the issues you stated on 2 of the infuse's I have owned.
hwaters said:
I have that on mine.
I don't mind it enough to replace my phone.
tried that page. I do not get the yellow tint at any brightness from what I can tell.
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Yes, but can you post a photo of that?
not at the moment. maybe later when I am at home.
I also could just not be seeing it. so *shrugs* Not entirely sure.
ok. Here are a couple of photos trying to see the banding.
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here's a picture of the stuff it does to text at the very bottom. It's a small sliver and is hard to see in a photo. Look at the bottom of the lower case Es, Os, and B and V
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At the very very bottom of my screen on the Infuse there is a noticeable tearing or bending...whatever you want to call it. I have seen 4 with this small imperfection. Maybe it was a bad batch.
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to my knowledge, they all have this.
Hopefully it I just a software defect that can be resolved latter.
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I had a light spot on my first Infuse. It was only noticeable on dark gray backgrounds. Exchanged because of it and my second and third Infuses didn't have it.
Haven't noticed the other issues mentioned by the OP and I'm pretty particular about screens. Color balance is much better than my old Captivate.
@hwaters
I may just be seeing things but there also looks like a yellowish tint captured by the camera, would be you able to zoom out a bit on the photos something that shows the entire phone but not further away. Thanks!
For those who are willing to contribute pictures please post a picture of the notification tray dropped down with the full phone in view.
My camera was having focusing issues from farther away but I did take a few other pictures earlier today.
If there is some yellow tinting oh well. It may just be an issue with how they may the super amoled plus screens.
I have seen countless praise of the SLCD screen of the One X, but I just got mine and noticed that although screen looks nice, its a bit warm in colors making it look yellowish. Same thing with the display models I looked at in the store. Are all One X screens like this? Not really complaining, just curious
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There is a warmer and cooler version of the LCD. All I can say is that my One X has the most accurate colors of any mobile device I have ever owned.
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There seem to be at least three panel suppliers.
Warm tones often abate after a few hours of run time.
A recent firmware update reduced warmness greatly in the One X forum (international).
Some people seem to like the warmer ones and some people seem to like the cooler. I saw both side by side in the store today and prefer the cooler one because it makes text sharper. The warmer one is suggested to give better contrast, blacks and more accurate colors. The cooler one (Acer) seems to show gridlines according to the other forum.
My understanding is there are two different companies who are making the screens sharp and I believe the other is acer one is warmer and the other is cooler. I've looked at two stores and they both looked like mine kinda yellow (warm) especially near the bottom of the screen. Some people I have showed it to said they didn't see anything while others could see it. It really shows the most when in the settings menu. The colors over all are spectacular. So I figured I would get used to it and since both my local stores looked the same as mine I figured it would be difficult to get them to exchange in hopes of getting one with the cooler screen.
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Anandtech had a Sony panel which might be exclusive to the XL.
The color accuracy is certainly better than my Note. It may not have the deep black levels, but that's all it lacks. And the blacks are still great.
I also haven't ran into any color banding or crushed blacks
I have seen both the tones
This is my third replacement. First one had flicker issue but the display was cooler (serial number began with HT23). Second one was warm display Serial number began with HT24. I exclusively requested the O2 shop guy to find HT24 (did a bit of reading before I went to shop) but that had charging issue...loll
The third one which I am using now is again HT23 from same stock but not a cooler display in fact warmer. I think there is no proper way to find out what display is what unless you open a brand new unit.
But certainly like all you have said, the tone is warmer on some devices (i prefer the cooler). If the brightness is turned to full it does take the warmness away but that is certainly not an option since it will drain the battery big style.
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Anandtech had a Sony panel which might be exclusive to the XL.
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I don't think anyone in the U.S. or Canada's reported anything other than the Sony panel. I saw one in an AT&T story and I described it as dingy, maybe that's what people are referring to as warm. It could just be variations between different Sony panels. No one can produce millions of 312PPI small screens and have them all be identical.
Also on my third one...first one had a screen that went from warm to cool...it was really whacked out and especially noticeable when comparing to store unit. second had light bleed and a scratched/dead pixel under the glass (was hard to see but combined with light bleed at the bottom really ticked me off)...3rd one is great. screen is a bit warm but looks fantastic..and no other issues. I am surprised to hear to many issues with the screens on these phones.
Nice! Looks like the glue or something had to dry up, because im noticing the warmness wearing off and screen is starting to look better and better in my eyes. No banding nor light leaks. Looks like im one of the lucky ones
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Mine is definitely warm, but its because I'm comparing it to my Sensation which is definitely on the cooler side. Here's a few side-by-side comparisons (taken with iPad3):
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DL: http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6244/img001fri.jpg
Light blue colors and white background
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I posted these on the S3 forum, but thought HTC folks will be interested with the size comparison also.
Different wallpapers (S3 has the live wallpaper).
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The wallpaper on the Galaxy Note is actually grey, and not black (meaning, it's not washing out the color, etc.)
Same wallpaper, and I also took out the cases on the both the One X and S3.
Another one, and just for kicks I added the iPhone 4 for size comparison.
It's tough to pick which one, and as they all look good (1000% better in person, than in picture). In the end I picked the One X for my daily driver for now. Although, I noticed the One X having a pinkish tint (noticeable on the clock). Both of the Samsung's showing better whites.
edit: Took out the "color" on the title to better represent the comparison.
that's relaly really weird. the most gripable thing about the gs3 screen and amoled screens are the whites as they appear bluish. the most praised thing about s-lcd2 are the whites. lol you might have a defective screen or something cuz you got that all backwards
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that's relaly really weird. the most gripable thing about the gs3 screen and amoled screens are the whites as they appear bluish. the most praised thing about s-lcd2 are the whites. lol you might have a defective screen or something cuz you got that all backwards
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Thank goodness, I have pictures to show that I actually am physically comparing these devices, or else you might say I'm completely crazy for saying those things.
Thank you very much.
My one x had crazy white whites lol my S3 displays nice whites but not as good as the HOX.
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Yeah the whites on my phone are completely white, as in hold it up next to a piece of paper and its comparable.
lol.
Dang, you guys are funny.
You guys win.
thanks for trying, but to compare screens with the photos you took is kinda pointless, the colors are all off and the clarity is sub-par. You really need a calibrated monitor, a decent digital camera and the knowledge how to adjust to image to be correctly displayed if you want to compare screens over the internet.
Thanks tho
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thanks for trying, but to compare screens with the photos you took is kinda pointless, the colors are all off and the clarity is sub-par. You really need a calibrated monitor, a decent digital camera and the knowledge how to adjust to image to be correctly displayed if you want to compare screens over the internet.
Thanks tho
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You do realized I took this picture, right? Meaning, I'm looking at it with my own eyes. Although, I do have a calibrated monitor/decent camera as I shoot weddings on the side.
But you are right. For you guys, the color wont come across correctly. I should've taken out out "color" comparison on the title, and just keep the "SIZE" comparison.
Thank you for you comment.
And yes, I prefer the One X over the S3.
Awesome pic, you're a lucky man having all those awesome devices!
bringing back an old thread haha! what clock widget is that?
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bringing back an old thread haha! what clock widget is that?
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might be hd widgets
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might be hd widgets
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sweet thanks!
bloodrain954 said:
thanks for trying, but to compare screens with the photos you took is kinda pointless, the colors are all off and the clarity is sub-par. You really need a calibrated monitor, a decent digital camera and the knowledge how to adjust to image to be correctly displayed if you want to compare screens over the internet.
Thanks tho
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Oh look. Yet another negative remark from bloodrain. What a surprise. Yeah.
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From the previews around the web, the screen looks way too blue. I wonder if LG borrowed the RGBW sub-pixel arrangement that they use for their OLED TVs? I am not a purist who lives and die by color accuracy, but it would be interesting to know how LG's OLED perform and differ compared to Samsung's AMOLED.
its not that different. Also, LCD's don't have the kind of pixel death issue and thus higher resale than OLEDs. The wallpapers look nice on the G-Flex 2: i hope someone uploads them (in full resolution) sometime soon.
For the love of everything holy, call it by its real name P-OLED.
LG didn't say anything about WRGB, and they usually boast about such things, so I assume it'll be like the original G Flex and be RGB. At least it's not pentile.
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For the love of everything holy, call it by its real name P-OLED.
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LOL-ED I laughed so hard hahaha
Hahaha is POLED, Plastic-OLED.
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it is not as blue as you are expecting..may be its the environment of the CES or crappy camera performance but see this video and you'll understand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tjqIW85FVg
Yes, you are right. It's usually the same as we've saw.
wow
nice
i think that is nice too
A certain website take a few close-up photo on LG G Flex 2's screen. http://m.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4531/200987/1/rv/lg-g-flex-2-review/ While those photo aren't close enough to show sub pixel arrangememt and the article say nothing about this, edge of those icon on screens look like the effect of diamond pentile arrangment to me.
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While those photo aren't close enough to show sub pixel arrangememt and the article say nothing about this, edge of those icon on screens look like the effect of diamond pentile arrangment to me.
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Pretty sure it is. If I get real close I can see jaggies.
is this screen(OLED) gonna burn-in like Samsung's amoled ??????
I do not know if this is true or not but I remember reading somewhere that the G Flex 2 has 4 sub-pixels per pixel instead of the usual 2 sub-pixels found on pentile arrangement. I find that hard to believe but I am throwing it out there since it is not totally outside of imagination. But you would think LG would have gone for 2560x1440 if that is the case.. you know, at least for marketing. I know that the GPU will have to work harder at higher resolution (thus higher power consumption), but my general impression is that the display itself consumes more power than GPU, especially for non-3D workloads.
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is this screen(OLED) gonna burn-in like Samsung's amoled ??????
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There will be uneven wear amongst different sub-pixels. That is the nature of OLED tech, and every tech in general. Once you start using electronic devices they all start to wear. The question is always the matter of degree and kind, and how it is mitigated.
So far next to my g3 this screen looks more colorful and just as sharp. Remind me of a Samsung device. Screen is pretty good if you worried no blue tint aleast from mine
Agreed. One of the best screens i have seen.
Does anyone else seem to have the grainy issue that the original g flex had
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No grain on sprint Model looks just as good as my nexus 6 i had but the colors pop more on this phone.
Only complaint I have on the screen is that the brightness doesn't go that low
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Does anyone else seem to have the grainy issue that the original g flex had
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I do. On low britghness i see almost the same grainy issue that Flex1
We all getting the phones soon, share ur best pics taken with this awesome cam
i will once mine gets delivered been out on truck since 8am...
First photo is P3XL and second is iPhone XS Max. Both nearly full zoom from across a pitch black room cause I'm too lazy to walk over to this thing
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Wow. Very nice!
First photo taken off my girl
Will test zoomed in photo in a bit
https://m.imgur.com/a/GxGmcEp
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First photo is P3XL and second is iPhone XS Max. Both nearly full zoom from across a pitch black room cause I'm too lazy to walk over to this thing View attachment 4621283View attachment 4621284
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Which one is it supposed to look like? I like the one on the left better, but, I obviously have no idea which color is accurate.
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Which one is it supposed to look like? I like the one on the left better, but, I obviously have no idea which color is accurate.
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They’re both pretty accurate honestly, neither captured it perfectly and it also carried slightly when I was looking at both pictures on each phone due to the screen having different characteristics. All that said, iPhone came out more accurately on this one.
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Which one is it supposed to look like? I like the one on the left better, but, I obviously have no idea which color is accurate.
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Also the pixel is a bit sharper, but for me the color accuracy is a bit more important on this particular shot
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Sadly, this is all I have right now. Wanted to test low light so just took a picture of my pixel boxes with the light off and just the computer screen glare...
Just got my new charging station setup up at work and had to snap a quick pic. Changed the aspect ration to 16x9 and threw one of the stock photo app filters to something that fits my tonal taste better but otherwise untouched. I'm really excited about my charging station though!
I love the quality but I'm disappointed they did away with numerical zoom level on the slider. I like to know how much I've zoomed (1.3, 2X etc)
Here is the first one I took out of the box
Pictures in order
1: iPhone XS Max w/ Flash
2: iPhone XS Max w/o Flash
3: Pixel 3 XL w/ Flash
4: Pixel 3 XL w/o Flash
I’ll reserve my comments for the most part though I think one is a clear winner. Disappointed with the other.
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Took this to see how well it does at a concert. This is also using the zoom
Here's a few I just took at 3:00 am while walking my dog.
All the way zoomed in.
Impressed with the low light performance so far.
Does it happen to anyone? When I tske close up pictures, it struggled to focus far more than my old pixel 2xl.
Impressed with the zoom quality too. This is zoomed in pretty far and still looks pretty crisp.
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Here is the first one I took out of the box
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That's definitely wallpaper material, very good photo
Here is a couple I took. These were edited with the photos app.