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Is there a way to get around the pentile display?

I really love my Captivate... but the screen is annoying me. Sitting next to my Evo, the pixellation on the Captivate is EXTREMELY noticeable and makes the phone look like it has a crappier resolution even though its .3inches smaller.
I imagine that I'm just stuck with this? Why would they do this? It makes the phone's display, which is a premium display, look like its cheap!
I've noticed it almost looks like the pentile pixels move around so I wonder if its a software feature and not just the screen or is that just wishful thinking?

man... you have a VERY good eyes... but the cappy screen is VERY good...

I have noticed that too my friend samsung mesmerise or whstever its called look better and less pixely but i guess its just the scrren you csnt do nothing about it
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Yuna said:
man... you have a VERY good eyes... but the cappy screen is VERY good...
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Well I used the Evo for ... well when did it come out, june? So I've used it since then... so its really easy for me to spot the pentile effect on the Captivate.
Don't get me wrong, I love my Captivate... but actually having to zoom in the browser now to read things is not my most favorite thing in the world. On my Evo, I would hardly ever zoom in landscape... and I wouldn't have to with the Captivate either but for the stupid pentile matrix on the display. I don't notice it so much with videos and things (which are absolutely phenomenal), just with white screens or when I'm browsing or holding the phone too close to my face. And the pentiles DO move - I'm guessing this is to prevent the AMOLED burn-in?

pentile = pixelization? or my english is too bad to understand you?

Pentile is different on the pixel level than LCD's. Here's a visual...
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okay, and why is it bad?

Yuna said:
okay, and why is it bad?
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Read the picture. It says there's 33% fewer subpixels, therefore less detail in the end (especially with text). The LCD displays have S-AMOLED beat by a pretty good margin with detail. Personally though, I love it because of the contrast ratios and color reproduction. It's the KING of black levels, with 100,000:1 static contrast ratio.

Guess we're just hosed on it... feels like 33% less resolution which is unacceptable...

I have a DroidX and a SGS, the SGS blows away the Droid X screen. But one thing I noticed is with the stock screen protector on it would make text look funny. You should try removing it and see if it helps. It was like my screen protector was reflecting light or something. Switched it out with a universal one and poof all better.

G2x vs EVO vs Nexus S screen pics

I happen to have these 3 amazing devices in my possession, and so I feel obligated to snap some comparison photos. Most interestingly is the last few demonstrating the bleeding LCD issue. This is the best I could do without a tripod. Order left to right: EVO, G2x, Nexus S.
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G2x and Nexus Home:
Youtube (demoing blacks) EVO and G2x:
Youtube G2x and Nexus S:
Market (for greens):
And now the moment, all phones showing black image:
Angle view showing bad LCD bleed:
So here's my conclusion. G2x has most natural colors, the OLED on the Nexus just seems artificially vivid, but really there's not much difference until you hit the blacks. G2x has same LCD bleed as EVO, but 1000x better colors. So there you go, if you're used to OLED I can see why you're disappointed, but if you've been on an EVO LCD, the G2x is quite a treat. You can go wrong with any of these phones.

Wow. Thanks
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Screen looks great. Whats the problem.
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mr.orange303 said:
Screen looks great. Whats the problem.
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I've just seen reviews on the screen all over the place so I thought this would be more objective. That and lots of LCD bleed complaints. I love it personally.

x-ravin said:
I've just seen reviews on the screen all over the place so I thought this would be more objective. That and lots of LCD bleed complaints. I love it personally.
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Well thanks. Best thread all day.
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I actually thought the screen was pretty nice....not as rich as the super amoled screens but definitely way better than The other LCD screens out there like the ones on evo
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Personally I think the G2X looks better in all cases. Sure there is some bleed on the complete black, but to be honest, I am probably not the only one that uses their phone in normal lighting, every issue I have seen posted regarding bleed problems are in a pitch black room. Hardly a situation that I would even come close to on a daily basis.
I think the G2X is great as is across the board. And I am coming from a Fascinate (Galaxy S phone).

Well done Ravin! Thanks for that comparison.

wierd
in the pics the 2 screens look on while the third is black. i dotn see it like that maybe its just the way the camera pics up the bleed. But i think this is back to the old plama lcd arguments. my blacks on lcd and phone are black enough for me maybe i have my mind convinced they are black

eagle1967 said:
in the pics the 2 screens look on while the third is black. i dotn see it like that maybe its just the way the camera pics up the bleed. But i think this is back to the old plama lcd arguments. my blacks on lcd and phone are black enough for me maybe i have my mind convinced they are black
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Well you're right, OLED is off when it's displaying black, that's why it has a massive contrast ratio. The camera isn't lying in those pics.

I have used both the NS and the G2X and I prefer the G2X over the NS. I sold my used NS the day I bought the new G2X and I am not looking back.
I haven't had any of the balcklight bleeding issues everyone is talking about and the speed of the phone is superior to that of the NS. The phone feels more solid in my hand then the NS did, the build quality to me is allot better then the plastic NS.
I haven't rooted mine yet, I will wait until a stable release of CM7 comes out and then I will take the plunge. I think once a nice stable ROM is released and the recovery flashing issue are resolved, allot of folks will make the switch.

Do you know what I take away from this? Seeing that 3 different high profile Android devices, all have the same 4 buttons, but they're all in a different order. Why can't someone say 'lets standardize on a single order for these buttons'?

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Do you know what I take away from this? Seeing that 3 different high profile Android devices, all have the same 4 buttons, but they're all in a different order. Why can't someone say 'lets standardize on a single order for these buttons'?
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The sad thing is the NS doesn't even have the same layout as the Vibrant...same company!

Colors washed?

I got my HOX yesterday to substitute my galaxy note. Loving it so far. However, the screen seems to have the colors washed away. I realize that I moved from an amoled display to a LCD, but I just want to make sure this is to be expected and I don't have a faulty unit.
This is mostly noticeable on the xda app, where the colors on the threads page seem to be very washed out compared to my galaxy note.
See third post for pictures of the screen.
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I think you would need to take a picture to actually show the screen issues you are talking about. With a pic, it may still be hard to see it. Screenshots will not show any defects with the screen hardware.

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You're right, I will upload a pic later today.
Thanks
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Here are the pics. You're right, it is hard to notice, but hopefully somebody has seen both devices first hand and can share their opinion.
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AMOLED screens are going to be a bit cold (blueish) so when comparing a LCD screen to an AMOLED screen, the LCD screen will appear to be warmer (yellow). But now compare it to another LCD screen from another phone and see what color it looks like then.
To be honest, I prefer the color of my LCD2 screen to my Galaxy S II SAMOLED+ screen.

Thanks for the info, will compare it to another LCD screen to get some perspective.
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I think the colors are just fine. But to be sure you can take it to local at & t store and do some comparison with the display units that they have out there.
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I had the Note for about 3 1/2 weeks, went back to my iPhone 4 for about 3 1/2 weeks, and then to the One X last week. I think the colors are just more accurate on the One X than what was on the Note. You're One X looks fine to me. I know you realize that the Amoled screens are all over the place with color accuracy and can really skew ones idea of what colors are supposed to look like. The colors are super oversaturated, often times the wrong hue, and everything has a blue cast to it.

If it's any comfort, I too, moved from a Samsung AMOLED screen and thought the HTC one x was experiencing issues with color. Too me, it all seems very warm and yellowish...but looks like that's pretty normal when I compare it to any other LCD.

Thank you all for your feedback. I have a record of bad luck when it comes to getting new cellphones, there is always an issue with the one I get.
This one is looking very, very solid so far. The only thing bothering me was the screen, but now I know it's supposed to be that way. I guess my mind got used to interpret blue as white due to the amoled screen of the note.
I imagine time will make it look better and better as I adapt to it.
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My screen looks exactly like yours, its somewhat warm (yellow) and I'm not a fan. The demo unit at my local store looks perfect so I'm just waiting for inventory to flush a little maybe before trying to swap.

Loled (LG OLED)

From the previews around the web, the screen looks way too blue. I wonder if LG borrowed the RGBW sub-pixel arrangement that they use for their OLED TVs? I am not a purist who lives and die by color accuracy, but it would be interesting to know how LG's OLED perform and differ compared to Samsung's AMOLED.

its not that different. Also, LCD's don't have the kind of pixel death issue and thus higher resale than OLEDs. The wallpapers look nice on the G-Flex 2: i hope someone uploads them (in full resolution) sometime soon.

For the love of everything holy, call it by its real name P-OLED.
LG didn't say anything about WRGB, and they usually boast about such things, so I assume it'll be like the original G Flex and be RGB. At least it's not pentile.

wargreymon89 said:
For the love of everything holy, call it by its real name P-OLED.
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LOL-ED I laughed so hard hahaha

Hahaha is POLED, Plastic-OLED.
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it is not as blue as you are expecting..may be its the environment of the CES or crappy camera performance but see this video and you'll understand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tjqIW85FVg

Yes, you are right. It's usually the same as we've saw.

wow
nice

i think that is nice too

A certain website take a few close-up photo on LG G Flex 2's screen. http://m.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4531/200987/1/rv/lg-g-flex-2-review/ While those photo aren't close enough to show sub pixel arrangememt and the article say nothing about this, edge of those icon on screens look like the effect of diamond pentile arrangment to me.

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While those photo aren't close enough to show sub pixel arrangememt and the article say nothing about this, edge of those icon on screens look like the effect of diamond pentile arrangment to me.
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Pretty sure it is. If I get real close I can see jaggies.

is this screen(OLED) gonna burn-in like Samsung's amoled ??????

I do not know if this is true or not but I remember reading somewhere that the G Flex 2 has 4 sub-pixels per pixel instead of the usual 2 sub-pixels found on pentile arrangement. I find that hard to believe but I am throwing it out there since it is not totally outside of imagination. But you would think LG would have gone for 2560x1440 if that is the case.. you know, at least for marketing. I know that the GPU will have to work harder at higher resolution (thus higher power consumption), but my general impression is that the display itself consumes more power than GPU, especially for non-3D workloads.

komsa said:
is this screen(OLED) gonna burn-in like Samsung's amoled ??????
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There will be uneven wear amongst different sub-pixels. That is the nature of OLED tech, and every tech in general. Once you start using electronic devices they all start to wear. The question is always the matter of degree and kind, and how it is mitigated.

So far next to my g3 this screen looks more colorful and just as sharp. Remind me of a Samsung device. Screen is pretty good if you worried no blue tint aleast from mine

Agreed. One of the best screens i have seen.

Does anyone else seem to have the grainy issue that the original g flex had
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No grain on sprint Model looks just as good as my nexus 6 i had but the colors pop more on this phone.

Only complaint I have on the screen is that the brightness doesn't go that low

SAMVREMIX said:
Does anyone else seem to have the grainy issue that the original g flex had
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I do. On low britghness i see almost the same grainy issue that Flex1

Share your pictures taken with Pixel 3 XL

We all getting the phones soon, share ur best pics taken with this awesome cam

i will once mine gets delivered been out on truck since 8am...

First photo is P3XL and second is iPhone XS Max. Both nearly full zoom from across a pitch black room cause I'm too lazy to walk over to this thing
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Wow. Very nice!

First photo taken off my girl
Will test zoomed in photo in a bit
https://m.imgur.com/a/GxGmcEp

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First photo is P3XL and second is iPhone XS Max. Both nearly full zoom from across a pitch black room cause I'm too lazy to walk over to this thing View attachment 4621283View attachment 4621284
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Which one is it supposed to look like? I like the one on the left better, but, I obviously have no idea which color is accurate.

gettinwicked said:
Which one is it supposed to look like? I like the one on the left better, but, I obviously have no idea which color is accurate.
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They’re both pretty accurate honestly, neither captured it perfectly and it also carried slightly when I was looking at both pictures on each phone due to the screen having different characteristics. All that said, iPhone came out more accurately on this one.
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gettinwicked said:
Which one is it supposed to look like? I like the one on the left better, but, I obviously have no idea which color is accurate.
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Also the pixel is a bit sharper, but for me the color accuracy is a bit more important on this particular shot
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Sadly, this is all I have right now. Wanted to test low light so just took a picture of my pixel boxes with the light off and just the computer screen glare...

Just got my new charging station setup up at work and had to snap a quick pic. Changed the aspect ration to 16x9 and threw one of the stock photo app filters to something that fits my tonal taste better but otherwise untouched. I'm really excited about my charging station though!

I love the quality but I'm disappointed they did away with numerical zoom level on the slider. I like to know how much I've zoomed (1.3, 2X etc)

Here is the first one I took out of the box

Pictures in order
1: iPhone XS Max w/ Flash
2: iPhone XS Max w/o Flash
3: Pixel 3 XL w/ Flash
4: Pixel 3 XL w/o Flash
I’ll reserve my comments for the most part though I think one is a clear winner. Disappointed with the other.
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Took this to see how well it does at a concert. This is also using the zoom

Here's a few I just took at 3:00 am while walking my dog.

All the way zoomed in.

Impressed with the low light performance so far.

Does it happen to anyone? When I tske close up pictures, it struggled to focus far more than my old pixel 2xl.

Impressed with the zoom quality too. This is zoomed in pretty far and still looks pretty crisp.

NICEGYPT said:
Here is the first one I took out of the box
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That's definitely wallpaper material, very good photo

Here is a couple I took. These were edited with the photos app.