Is there a way to get around the pentile display? - Captivate General

I really love my Captivate... but the screen is annoying me. Sitting next to my Evo, the pixellation on the Captivate is EXTREMELY noticeable and makes the phone look like it has a crappier resolution even though its .3inches smaller.
I imagine that I'm just stuck with this? Why would they do this? It makes the phone's display, which is a premium display, look like its cheap!
I've noticed it almost looks like the pentile pixels move around so I wonder if its a software feature and not just the screen or is that just wishful thinking?

man... you have a VERY good eyes... but the cappy screen is VERY good...

I have noticed that too my friend samsung mesmerise or whstever its called look better and less pixely but i guess its just the scrren you csnt do nothing about it
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Yuna said:
man... you have a VERY good eyes... but the cappy screen is VERY good...
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Well I used the Evo for ... well when did it come out, june? So I've used it since then... so its really easy for me to spot the pentile effect on the Captivate.
Don't get me wrong, I love my Captivate... but actually having to zoom in the browser now to read things is not my most favorite thing in the world. On my Evo, I would hardly ever zoom in landscape... and I wouldn't have to with the Captivate either but for the stupid pentile matrix on the display. I don't notice it so much with videos and things (which are absolutely phenomenal), just with white screens or when I'm browsing or holding the phone too close to my face. And the pentiles DO move - I'm guessing this is to prevent the AMOLED burn-in?

pentile = pixelization? or my english is too bad to understand you?

Pentile is different on the pixel level than LCD's. Here's a visual...
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okay, and why is it bad?

Yuna said:
okay, and why is it bad?
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Read the picture. It says there's 33% fewer subpixels, therefore less detail in the end (especially with text). The LCD displays have S-AMOLED beat by a pretty good margin with detail. Personally though, I love it because of the contrast ratios and color reproduction. It's the KING of black levels, with 100,000:1 static contrast ratio.

Guess we're just hosed on it... feels like 33% less resolution which is unacceptable...

I have a DroidX and a SGS, the SGS blows away the Droid X screen. But one thing I noticed is with the stock screen protector on it would make text look funny. You should try removing it and see if it helps. It was like my screen protector was reflecting light or something. Switched it out with a universal one and poof all better.

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New leaked pics of Nexus Prime

Here is a possible picture of Nexus Prime and his 1,280x72 display screen resolution:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20115325-251/might-this-be-the-nexus-prime/
That's 320dpi on 4.5" screen vs Apple's 326dpi on a 3.7" screen. I'll take that in the Super AMOLED plus please.
They better have a huge battery to last! Notice the touch on-screen buttons
My prediction is that the size of the phone will be just about the same as Nexus s but the extra space for buttons and probably little more on top makes the extra .5" of screen.
And when you think about it, it makes total sense because for movie watching, you can just get those buttons out of the way and have a bigger screen.
I wish it's not only released under Verizon as rumor said so.. it would be great if it is a GSM/CDMA compatible device
goodtom said:
I wish it's not only released under Verizon as rumor said so.. it would be great if it is a GSM/CDMA compatible device
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That would be an asinine move figuring iPhone is on the big 3 now. And I don't know where you read that. (I didn't read the cnet article there so if it was there...)
I like that leak better than the last that everyone believes. And that's just some words with Honeycomb buttons.
Of course this could just be the Honeycomb launcher theme with a background image of what appears to be info about the phone.
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Here is a possible picture of Nexus Prime and his 1,280x72 display screen resolution:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20115325-251/might-this-be-the-nexus-prime/
That's 320dpi on 4.5" screen vs Apple's 326dpi on a 3.7" screen. I'll take that in the Super AMOLED plus please.
They better have a huge battery to last! Notice the touch on-screen buttons
My prediction is that the size of the phone will be just about the same as Nexus s but the extra space for buttons and probably little more on top makes the extra .5" of screen.
And when you think about it, it makes total sense because for movie watching, you can just get those buttons out of the way and have a bigger screen.
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I really hope your prediction comes true about the size of the new Nexus because if it's not, I won't be buying a phone that's over 4,3 and if i can't upgrade to a Nexus phone than i might just test uncharted water...
Releasing on locked cdma carrier is bad move should stick to the traditional unlocked GSM that's if it is true about verizon
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They need to release on all carriers. Also, they better stick to one version/name for all carriers like they did with the nexus s
love samsung displays
My wife got the Epic when I got my EVO. I envy her display. The colors are so much more rich. A co-worker just got the new Galaxy 2...WOW.
Not sure I like the idea of zero physical buttons. Though that might just be PTSD from the Blackberry Storm 2.
wow 4.6inch screen lol. this thing is gonna be a monster
whoooooa
I hope it isn't as curved at the picture makes it look
Love these leaks, the iphone 5 looked so cool
Oh that's cool! 2
other than the LTE features, its no real different than whats already available. Also why the 1.2Ghz processor. Most are releasing with 1.5
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Colors washed?

I got my HOX yesterday to substitute my galaxy note. Loving it so far. However, the screen seems to have the colors washed away. I realize that I moved from an amoled display to a LCD, but I just want to make sure this is to be expected and I don't have a faulty unit.
This is mostly noticeable on the xda app, where the colors on the threads page seem to be very washed out compared to my galaxy note.
See third post for pictures of the screen.
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I think you would need to take a picture to actually show the screen issues you are talking about. With a pic, it may still be hard to see it. Screenshots will not show any defects with the screen hardware.
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You're right, I will upload a pic later today.
Thanks
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Here are the pics. You're right, it is hard to notice, but hopefully somebody has seen both devices first hand and can share their opinion.
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AMOLED screens are going to be a bit cold (blueish) so when comparing a LCD screen to an AMOLED screen, the LCD screen will appear to be warmer (yellow). But now compare it to another LCD screen from another phone and see what color it looks like then.
To be honest, I prefer the color of my LCD2 screen to my Galaxy S II SAMOLED+ screen.
Thanks for the info, will compare it to another LCD screen to get some perspective.
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I think the colors are just fine. But to be sure you can take it to local at & t store and do some comparison with the display units that they have out there.
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I had the Note for about 3 1/2 weeks, went back to my iPhone 4 for about 3 1/2 weeks, and then to the One X last week. I think the colors are just more accurate on the One X than what was on the Note. You're One X looks fine to me. I know you realize that the Amoled screens are all over the place with color accuracy and can really skew ones idea of what colors are supposed to look like. The colors are super oversaturated, often times the wrong hue, and everything has a blue cast to it.
If it's any comfort, I too, moved from a Samsung AMOLED screen and thought the HTC one x was experiencing issues with color. Too me, it all seems very warm and yellowish...but looks like that's pretty normal when I compare it to any other LCD.
Thank you all for your feedback. I have a record of bad luck when it comes to getting new cellphones, there is always an issue with the one I get.
This one is looking very, very solid so far. The only thing bothering me was the screen, but now I know it's supposed to be that way. I guess my mind got used to interpret blue as white due to the amoled screen of the note.
I imagine time will make it look better and better as I adapt to it.
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My screen looks exactly like yours, its somewhat warm (yellow) and I'm not a fan. The demo unit at my local store looks perfect so I'm just waiting for inventory to flush a little maybe before trying to swap.

Size comparison between Galaxy S3, One X, Galaxy Note

I posted these on the S3 forum, but thought HTC folks will be interested with the size comparison also.
Different wallpapers (S3 has the live wallpaper).
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The wallpaper on the Galaxy Note is actually grey, and not black (meaning, it's not washing out the color, etc.)
Same wallpaper, and I also took out the cases on the both the One X and S3.
Another one, and just for kicks I added the iPhone 4 for size comparison.
It's tough to pick which one, and as they all look good (1000% better in person, than in picture). In the end I picked the One X for my daily driver for now. Although, I noticed the One X having a pinkish tint (noticeable on the clock). Both of the Samsung's showing better whites.
edit: Took out the "color" on the title to better represent the comparison.
that's relaly really weird. the most gripable thing about the gs3 screen and amoled screens are the whites as they appear bluish. the most praised thing about s-lcd2 are the whites. lol you might have a defective screen or something cuz you got that all backwards
ethantarheels123 said:
that's relaly really weird. the most gripable thing about the gs3 screen and amoled screens are the whites as they appear bluish. the most praised thing about s-lcd2 are the whites. lol you might have a defective screen or something cuz you got that all backwards
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Thank goodness, I have pictures to show that I actually am physically comparing these devices, or else you might say I'm completely crazy for saying those things.
Thank you very much.
My one x had crazy white whites lol my S3 displays nice whites but not as good as the HOX.
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Yeah the whites on my phone are completely white, as in hold it up next to a piece of paper and its comparable.
lol.
Dang, you guys are funny.
You guys win.
thanks for trying, but to compare screens with the photos you took is kinda pointless, the colors are all off and the clarity is sub-par. You really need a calibrated monitor, a decent digital camera and the knowledge how to adjust to image to be correctly displayed if you want to compare screens over the internet.
Thanks tho
bloodrain954 said:
thanks for trying, but to compare screens with the photos you took is kinda pointless, the colors are all off and the clarity is sub-par. You really need a calibrated monitor, a decent digital camera and the knowledge how to adjust to image to be correctly displayed if you want to compare screens over the internet.
Thanks tho
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You do realized I took this picture, right? Meaning, I'm looking at it with my own eyes. Although, I do have a calibrated monitor/decent camera as I shoot weddings on the side.
But you are right. For you guys, the color wont come across correctly. I should've taken out out "color" comparison on the title, and just keep the "SIZE" comparison.
Thank you for you comment.
And yes, I prefer the One X over the S3.
Awesome pic, you're a lucky man having all those awesome devices!
bringing back an old thread haha! what clock widget is that?
bog3nator said:
bringing back an old thread haha! what clock widget is that?
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might be hd widgets
s1l3nt said:
might be hd widgets
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sweet thanks!
bloodrain954 said:
thanks for trying, but to compare screens with the photos you took is kinda pointless, the colors are all off and the clarity is sub-par. You really need a calibrated monitor, a decent digital camera and the knowledge how to adjust to image to be correctly displayed if you want to compare screens over the internet.
Thanks tho
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Oh look. Yet another negative remark from bloodrain. What a surprise. Yeah.
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Loled (LG OLED)

From the previews around the web, the screen looks way too blue. I wonder if LG borrowed the RGBW sub-pixel arrangement that they use for their OLED TVs? I am not a purist who lives and die by color accuracy, but it would be interesting to know how LG's OLED perform and differ compared to Samsung's AMOLED.
its not that different. Also, LCD's don't have the kind of pixel death issue and thus higher resale than OLEDs. The wallpapers look nice on the G-Flex 2: i hope someone uploads them (in full resolution) sometime soon.
For the love of everything holy, call it by its real name P-OLED.
LG didn't say anything about WRGB, and they usually boast about such things, so I assume it'll be like the original G Flex and be RGB. At least it's not pentile.
wargreymon89 said:
For the love of everything holy, call it by its real name P-OLED.
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LOL-ED I laughed so hard hahaha
Hahaha is POLED, Plastic-OLED.
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it is not as blue as you are expecting..may be its the environment of the CES or crappy camera performance but see this video and you'll understand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tjqIW85FVg
Yes, you are right. It's usually the same as we've saw.
wow
nice
i think that is nice too
A certain website take a few close-up photo on LG G Flex 2's screen. http://m.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4531/200987/1/rv/lg-g-flex-2-review/ While those photo aren't close enough to show sub pixel arrangememt and the article say nothing about this, edge of those icon on screens look like the effect of diamond pentile arrangment to me.
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While those photo aren't close enough to show sub pixel arrangememt and the article say nothing about this, edge of those icon on screens look like the effect of diamond pentile arrangment to me.
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Pretty sure it is. If I get real close I can see jaggies.
is this screen(OLED) gonna burn-in like Samsung's amoled ??????
I do not know if this is true or not but I remember reading somewhere that the G Flex 2 has 4 sub-pixels per pixel instead of the usual 2 sub-pixels found on pentile arrangement. I find that hard to believe but I am throwing it out there since it is not totally outside of imagination. But you would think LG would have gone for 2560x1440 if that is the case.. you know, at least for marketing. I know that the GPU will have to work harder at higher resolution (thus higher power consumption), but my general impression is that the display itself consumes more power than GPU, especially for non-3D workloads.
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is this screen(OLED) gonna burn-in like Samsung's amoled ??????
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There will be uneven wear amongst different sub-pixels. That is the nature of OLED tech, and every tech in general. Once you start using electronic devices they all start to wear. The question is always the matter of degree and kind, and how it is mitigated.
So far next to my g3 this screen looks more colorful and just as sharp. Remind me of a Samsung device. Screen is pretty good if you worried no blue tint aleast from mine
Agreed. One of the best screens i have seen.
Does anyone else seem to have the grainy issue that the original g flex had
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No grain on sprint Model looks just as good as my nexus 6 i had but the colors pop more on this phone.
Only complaint I have on the screen is that the brightness doesn't go that low
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Does anyone else seem to have the grainy issue that the original g flex had
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I do. On low britghness i see almost the same grainy issue that Flex1

Screen issue

Last night while using my phone in the dark, the brightness set down low, I noticed on sites that were darker themed that there is an odd anomaly in my screen. There is a line (that reminds me of a hair, maybe an eyelash) that only shows when the brightness is low. I was able to take a picture of it with my girlfriends G3, though it's much more noticeable when you're using the phone, as it's stationary when you scroll.
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This is my first Super AMOLED screen in a while, but I don't remember anything like this before.
If it truly bothers you i'd see if your carrier will exchange it for you. I had a notification light go out and tmobile exchanged it forb $5. You'Lloyd get a refurbished device, but eliminate this issue.
audscott said:
If it truly bothers you i'd see if your carrier will exchange it for you. I had a notification light go out and tmobile exchanged it forb $5. You'Lloyd get a refurbished device, but eliminate this issue.
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I'm more interested in finding out if this is more widespread than just me.
Elysian893 said:
I'm more interested in finding out if this is more widespread than just me.
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Mine has a red tint on the left side of the screen. But it's getting replaced today.
This happens to smoked screen it's how Samsung makes them it's been happening since the s3 & s4 it was called ink spots
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t= http://m.forrent.com/apartment-community-profile/1000060878
Galaxy S3 BLACK INK Spots HELP!!
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Just exchange. Next time look at the one you are getting in the store more carefully.
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Just exchange. Next time look at the one you are getting in the store more carefully.
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You realize the lights are so bright in store something like this would never show up, right?
Actually, those spots are not considered a defect in Samsung's eyes. The spots are the nature of producing amoled screens. My old PSVita(3g wifi) model are riddled with these ink spots that are only visible on a black background in a very dark environment. Also my s3 and s4 had them. Not all of them has these spots and some are more prevalent than others. It's just the luck of the draw when it comes to this matter.
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