perfect middle spec phone, please somebody implement :) - Android General

Dear santa, here is the phone that I would like to have (as a 2nd android phone for festivals, skiing, etc..):
- 1280x720 resolution
- dimensions of max. 64.9mm width and abt. 127mm of height, depth not so important
- which means display of size 4.3 - 4.6 inch
- most power efficient processor available (snapdragon 800 or 801 or equivalent), that has plenty of customROM implementations
- at least 2GB RAM
- flash memory that is fast enough
- removable battery of reasonable size (at least 2100mah)
- water resistant like galaxy S5 mini
- microSD card
- camera whose quality is better than average, not neccessarily top, that includes a flash
- virtual navigation buttons, so no home button rubbish like with samsung or iphone
- reasonably priced
The ones that come closest are Samsung Galaxy S5 mini and Sony Xperia Z1 or Z3 compact, but neither of them fill all of these requirements... S5mini does not have enough RAM and Xperia does not have removable battery... If S5mini was just available with 2GB RAM and had a better processor...
Or another alternative would be even smaller device. Like iphone 5/5S but with a removable battery, android and without home button...

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[C][Info] Samsung Galaxy S5 vs. Sony Xperia Z2

Sony Xperia Z2 Review vs Samsung Galaxy S5 Review
We cannot ignore this; Samsung always has Special thing! (Edit: nothing special for this time! except true OctaCore)
almost all things about Xperia Z2 was not surprise But special.
pnt) please go to source posts to see more info...
Specifications​
​ Galaxy S5; Price
5.1" FHD Display (SuperSensitive TouchPanel) /Super AMOLED (same as S4 & Note3)
2.5GHz QuadCore Snpadragon 801-8974AC & 2.1GHz Exynos (true) OctaCore
2GB RAM
16/32GB Internal (+microSDcard for Media & Apps) ** 16GB >> ~10GB available
16MP rear (1/2.6 lens size ISOCELL + 1.12 µm pixel size + 4K)/2MP front
IP67 (Water-Dust resistant)
2800mAh (+ UltraPowerSaving Mod >> turn phone to black-white!)
Speaker; One Mono speaker
Android KK 4.4
Sensors;
Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, temperature, humidity, gesture, heart rate
Final Specs
MicroSite
>Early Performance Report, Benchmarks
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Xperia Z2; Price
5.2" FHD Display (SuperSensitive TouchPanel) /IPS + X-Reality + LiveColour LED (Triluminos)
2.3GHz QuadCore (Snapdragon-801/8974AB)
16GB Internal (+microSDcard for Media) ** 16GB >> ~12GB available
3GB RAM
20.7 rear(f/2. lens-1/2.3 size + 4K)/2.1MP front >> ExmorRS + G-Lens + BIONZ img process
3200mAh battery (+ new Stamina Mod >> Control Background processes & kill apps during standby)
(Speakers Stereo /2speakers)
Water-Proof/Dust-Resistant IP58
Android KK 4.4.2​>> Screen-Shots & Features Source1 Source2
Sensors;
Accelerometer, Barometer, Geomagnetic rotation vector, Gyroscope, Magnetometer, Step counter, Step detector, Significant motion detector, Proximity
Final Spec
White-Paper
Display Viewing Angle on Xperia Z2 (nothing to say about S5 cause Super AMOLED is awesome enough )
>Early Performance Report, Benchmarks
Sony tried to reduce bezels size and improve their OmniBalance design. It means even if Xperia Z2 is tall But bigger display & Battery. also durability for IP58.
Samsung has great design on Galaxy S4. round phone is always expected from samsung. but Round phone with more bezel than previous flagship is not that cool! It s exactly unlike what Sony done.
For both phone; Durability of Phone force them to design.
In this side Sony did smarter job cause it uses metallic frame and thinner bezel.
BUT first you have to check performance of phone.
This time Sony have better plan for availability.
Xperia Z2 will come in Mid-March But Galaxy S5 in early April.
x102x96x said:
However on Xperia Z, ZL, Z1 & etc we saw lots of new and report about BAD display (Viewing Angle) But this time we can see lots of report about GOOD display.
Now It s about Large Color Gamut.
& maybe it s widest color range support for smartphones.
This Color Gamut is even more than Super-AMOLED displays.
Source
Xperia Z2 vs Z1s; Compare Colors on Display
Xperia Z2 vs Z1 vs Z1c Viewing-Angle
Display On Xperia Z2 is combination of IPS + Triluminos + Live Colour LED + (In Media: X-Reality engine)
Display Source Post
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x102x96x said:
nothing to say about Galaxy S5 sound cause it s not something special it has mono-speakers(Like S4 & Note3)
But 2 Stereo Speaker on Xperia Z2 is very good.
Xperia Z2 VS htc ONE [Sound]
/htc ONE has Dual Speaker-Beats Audio sound enhancement
Xperia Z2 is Louder but still htc one is more clear.
But thr s awesome speakers on XZ2 so they can improve quality by Software update.
Great Improvement from Z1;
Xperia Z1 vs Xperia Z2 [Sound Comparison]
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Note On Flagships Support
x102x96x said:
Previous phones cannot compete with Xperia Z2
Only we can expect that Galaxy S5 with ISOCELL camera and bigger pixel size become real competitor.
More On Galaxy S5 ISOCELL powered Camera
Low-Light Camera test Xperia Z2
Camera Test Tokyo-Night
Outdoor + HDR On/Off Camera test Galaxy S5
Camera Source Post
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x102x96x said:
Snapdragon 801 8974-AB vs Snapdragon 801 8974-AC
Galaxy S5
CPU; 2.5GHz*
GPU; 578MHz
Xperia Z2
CPU; 2.3GHz
GPU; 550MHz**
AnTuTu v4
Galaxy S5: 35145
Xperia Z2: 34986
GFXBench 2.7 T-Rex
Xperia Z2: 27.7
Galaxy S5: 27.5
*CPU on Galaxy S5 clocked 0.2GHz higher than Xperia Z2. and there s just 159points more for Galaxy S5.
**GPU on Galaxy S5 clocked 28MHz higher than Xperia Z2 But in GFXBench 2.7 T-Rex Xperia Z2 got 0.2points more than Galaxy S5
>>These scores are from Demo units. SO we cannot judge according to them.
Final Units with Final Optimization are important.
Source
>> Here u can see 0.2GHz different between Xperia and Galaxy CPU. But Xperia has 1GB more in RAM.
Performance Source Post
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./updating...
please write your opinion about these two flagships...
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S5 just have FHD display with Snap S800 and 2Gig of RAM
May be souce is wrong,
Samsung Galaxy S5 will be using Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 chipset in MSM8974-AC variant, clocked at 2.5 GHz. Sony D6503 will be also using Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 chipset in MSM8974-AB variant, clocked at 2.3 GHz.
El.Guaje said:
S5 just have FHD display with Snap S800 and 2Gig of RAM
May be souce is wrong,
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yes the source is wrong, the screen is not 1080p its at least 2k
anyone own a Sony will regret it...Sony will be bankrupt in the next 3 years guarantee it, crappy phones, crappy tv, crappy headphone. Its hard to believe Sony is a Japanese company.
There's multiple versions of S5, Exynos and Snapdragon, FullHD and QHD, I guess only the exynos version will have QHD, or it might be a mix... Samsung doesn't have LTE modem compatible with everywhere that's why they're using Qualcomm in some cases ( S4 LTE used Qualcomm, while S4 3G used Exynos ).. the reason of why there's two screen resolution I guess is duo to low QHD production, Samsung can't sustain the required demand for these so they're going after FHD as a backup...
In most cases, we might get Exynos with QHD and Qualcomm with FullHD...
Sony's flagship will have 3300mAh according to latest rumor, it also has stereo speakers
8974AC
rency_0722 said:
Samsung Galaxy S5 will be using Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 chipset in MSM8974-AC variant, clocked at 2.5 GHz. Sony D6503 will be also using Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 chipset in MSM8974-AB variant, clocked at 2.3 GHz.
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SD-800
according to wikipedia and sources below wiki page SD800-8974AC max speed is 2.4GHz
however they can modify it for 2.5GHz but that s wht we know.
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Galaxy S5 might be water-dust resistant
According to O2 Germany via AndroidAuthority
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Or we could see an GS5 Active or O2 could be using "water" to hide the GS5 since they have no clue what it looks like.
RaptorMD said:
Or we could see an GS5 Active or O2 could be using "water" to hide the GS5 since they have no clue what it looks like.
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it s ur opinion But when they mentions sentences like samsung even can do more and etc it can have another meaning!
:good:
NOW Sony have too difficult battle.
cause S5 probably support IP67
and 16MP camera with bigger sensor with aqua mod
Source
If only the Sony would be widespread in the US like the S5.
x102x96x said:
it s ur opinion But when they mentions sentences like samsung even can do more and etc it can have another meaning!
:good:
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You're right it's my opinion and so is everything else on the net regarding the GS5. No one knows for sure until next Monday. That is FACT.
Something Extraordinary vs. Life-5
Samsung released Galaxy Unpacked 5 trailer
everything marked 5 include Wet 5 (that can prove this galaxy is water proof)
Source
Sony mentioned Something Extraordinary is coming
Source
Xperia Z2
We saw Xperia Z2 and now waiting for Galaxy S5
Samsung doesn't have difficult way to win battle !
:good:
Xperia Z2 Display powered by both Live Color algorithm & X-Reality engine
IPS /TRILUMINOS FullHD
It can be positive point for new Xperia...
Galaxy S5
NOW I have to say Samsung had so difficult battle!
and i my opinion Samsung cannot win!
after successful S4 & Note3
this S5 is not that impressive!
everything about it
Xperia Z2 is winner of MWC14
The ugliest device of 2014: Samsung galaxy S5!
Xperia Z2 aperature is 2.0 not 2.3
The Sony is too tall. The GS4 is already tall enough. I don't want a taller phone with a lot of bezel.
x102x96x said:
Hi
pnt.) We cannot ignore this; Samsung always has Special thing! (Edit: nothing special for this time!)
First Different:
We know exact name of this flagship from Samsung and little bit about its feature (thats because XDA made GS5 forums so soon)
But we know almost spec & feature of new Xperia But don't know what will be its name!
Expected Specifications
Galaxy S5;
5.25" FHD Display (SuperSensitive TouchPanel)
2.5GHz
2GB RAM
16/32GB Internal
16MP rear (that might be f/2.2 lens + 4K)/2MP front More on Camera
IP67
2800mAh
Android KK 4.4
Source
Final Specs
Xperia Flagship (D6503);
5.2" FHD Display (SuperSensitive TouchPanel)
2.3GHz QuadCore (SD-800/8974AB)
16GB Internal
3GB RAM
20.7 rear(that might be f/2. lens-1/2.3 size + 4K)/2.1MP front
3200mAh battery + new Stamina Mod)
(Speakers Stereo /2speakers)
Water-Proof/Dust-Resistance IP58
Android KK 4.4.2​Look almost Screen-Shots & Features Source1 Source2
Final Spec
(but there might be Exynos version of Galaxy S5.
the most thing I love to see is new innovations of Samsung in chipsets.: edited>> NOTHING about Exynos!)
pnt.) idk! in my opinion S5 design is not like premium phone at all and so not like Flagship!
please write your opinion about these two flagships...
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Dont ever doubt.. Xperia is winner!

Design Your Nexus Phone - Let's Discuss

Now that the rumors of Nexus devices have gone completely insane and terribly misleading I have thought about what I would like to see in a Nexus phone. Since Nexus devices are designed to be developer devices we have to keep in mind that hardware is the only thing you can really look at. Absolutely stock Android with no frills is our OS obviously. What kind of hardware should Google be encouraging development for? What manufacturer and what kind of specs would you want.
I'd like to see Motorola get a shot at the Nexus line. My bet is it would be called the Nexus X or the Moto Nexus.
Since its a Nexus device it has to be built completely open source. I'd like to see Moto open the X8 System up to allow developers to utilize the motion core and listening core. Anybody who has used a Moto X will agree that Active Display is probably the best feature ever. Unfortunately, it might fall outside the scope of Nexus to have this chipset in the phone as it is Motorola's silicon. It would likely have to be built on the Qualcomm chipset which tries to implement listening but fails miserably thus far. Basically I would love to see a Nexus device that is contextually aware of its surroundings without draining battery. Contextual awareness is the new wave in tech, allowing Devs to play around with that would be great.
Other Specs:
-5" Screen (at most) - I don't want a huge phone, that's why I have a tablet
-All day battery life - for the power user though because nobody else buys Nexus phones
-Rounded back
-Camera can be average, I don't care too much
This is based on the assumption that Nexus isn't dead so don't bring up Android Silver.
For me, I want a phone, not a flipping TV
- 4.5 Inch max. Now that screen sizes are getting close to tab/phablets, whats going to fill in the 'smaller' phone sizes?
- I know it wont happen but SD Card slot
- Aluminum body, probably the number one reason why HTC made a comeback
- Spec wise, I dont think it matters anymore to have the best CPU, or RAM
For me,I would love a bigger screen to 5",Not 4.9"....
4.5"-5" Screen,Liked nexus 4 on big screen with beautiful UI
SD card slot with App2SD(Why not google?)
3000+maH Battery
Snapdragon 400/S4 Pro(Quad Core)(Please no MTK.)S800 is too powerful.
LTE but...Certificated??
Note function?
Also most important,Cheaper(lol)
Assuming we're talking about the Nexus 6...
Screen no bigger than 5".
OIS 13mp camera or 16mp+ w/o OIS.
Bigass battery.
MicroSD slot, or storage option of 64gb (or even 128gb).
I'm sure the other specs will be up to snuff, so I won't wish and want with those.
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Install Xposed Installer
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Download Gravity Box And Customize Your Phone...:thumbup:
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N6 5.5 screen with little bezel works for me...
5" 1080p display
Snapdragon 801
3gb ram
3000mah battery (removable)
16mp OIS camera
Micro sd up to 128gb
This would be a perfect nexus phone in my opinion
Ok It should be like the following :-
1- 5" to 5.5" Super AMOLED screen with the ability to turn it to Black & White mode for Ultra power saving.
2- Polycarbonate like the Nokia Lumia's design or any other type of good and high quality plastic.
3- more than 3000 mAh battery, at least 3500 mAh, with removable back cover and battery, I think that also it better and more secure in Airports and in general.
4- High quality camera with the ability of manual controls.
5- Front facing speakers (small one's for more compact size) like in HTC One M8.
6- 64-bit hardware, 4 GB Ram, Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 or above, 128 GB internal storage.
I think that phone will be enough for what I'm looking in 2014/2015 smartphone .
5 inch full HD screen
Snapdragon 805
8 MP UltraPixel camera
3 GB of RAM
Android L
Fingeprint scanner
Aluminium built body
3000 MaH battery minimum
IR blaster
Sent from my Nexus 5 running AICP 5.0
Removable battery would be great
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Real flagship compact phones for 2015?

Excited about the Z4 Compact, assuming it comes to market. But will there be any other such compact devices on the market with top-end specs?
Talking... fully-clocked CPU, 3GB RAM, 1080p, 3000 mAh battery, top camera with OIS, SD card
I wish OnePlus would make a compact version, but apparently the OnePlus Two will have a 5.5" screen.
The ~4.7" size seems like an abandoned market for Android if one seeks true flagship specs.
droydr said:
Excited about the Z4 Compact, assuming it comes to market. But will there be any other such compact devices on the market with top-end specs?
Talking... fully-clocked CPU, 3GB RAM, 1080p, 3000 mAh battery, top camera with OIS, SD card
I wish OnePlus would make a compact version, but apparently the OnePlus Two will have a 5.5" screen.
The ~4.7" size seems like an abandoned market for Android if one seeks true flagship specs.
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out of curiosity, what is a fully clocked CPU ??
Now for answering, well it depends, samsung may do another alpha(there are some that are high ends),and you can maybe call the one m9 a compact since its a 5'' screen (2015 seems 5.2'' + standard)
opssemnik said:
out of curiosity, what is a fully clocked CPU ??
Now for answering, well it depends, samsung may do another alpha(there are some that are high ends),and you can maybe call the one m9 a compact since its a 5'' screen (2015 seems 5.2'' + standard)
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As in a CPU that is not underclocked, like most "compact" devices' (~4.7" screen size) CPU's normally are. For an example, compare the specs of the Z3 vs. the Z3 Compact - they're identical outside of the smaller screen size and more compact design of the Z3 C.
Samsung's Alpha had a totally different CPU, chipset, GPU, lower screen resolution, lower end camera, and smaller battery than the S5. So it didn't have flagship specs. This stripped-down device is similar to what most other OEMs have been doing recently when they release "mini" versions of their flagships. Problem is, these "mini" versions come with mini specs throughout.
M9 is not compact. True, its 5" screen isn't considered huge these days, but its design is still quite large. (5.7" tall vs. Z3 Compact 5.0" tall, big difference)
Right now, it looks like Sony is the only OEM who puts real flagship specs in a true compact device. I'd have no problem buying the Z4 Compact, but am just wondering whether it'll have any real competition this year.

Small smartphone working with CyanogenMod ?

Hi guys !
I'm looking for advice.
I want to get rid of my Apple iphone5, because I want an OS that is less "linked" to the "big ones" (Apple, Google, Microsoft)
So the obvious choice is CyanogenMod (Ubuntu does not look ready)
Now it gets complicated
I need a small smartphone that you can use in one hand (4,7 inch max for screen size), with features at least equivalent (if not better) to my current iPhone5
- memory : at least 16GB, possibility of adding SD card (128 GB)
- Primary Camera : 8MP at least ( i don’t care about the 2nd one)
- 4G (european frequencies)
- battery > 1800 mAh
- good sound quality for headphones
- screen resolution : 1280x720 is better, but not mandatory
- good protection of screen (corning Gorilla class or equivalent… sorry Xperia Zx phones
It’s quite hard to gather complete and reliable information, and I confess I’m a bit lazy. So welcome to suggestions :good:
(Sorry If I’m not in the right sub-forum)

Tab S2 or Note Pro

I can get a Tab S2 from t-mobile or a used Note pro from ebay or something...The screen real estate of the note pro is enticing. they both have 3GB or ram, but the s2 is Octa-core. Not much use for the S-pen when I had a regular Note, but occasionally used it. I know the note pro has been out for a while, just wonder how future proof it is. is the quad-core snap 800 enough?
The difference between a Tab S2 Exynos Octa and a NotePro Snapdragon Quadcore is in what you intend to use it for.
CPU: Cores can't be merged or share speed. The max speed of a single core is all it can achieve.
The Exynos has a Quad-core 1.9 GHz and a quad-core 1.3 GHz, together making it an Octacore. (It's not a real Octacore, just two Quads on different speeds.)
The Snapdragon has four cores less, but those remaining four are 2.4 GHz each.
So if an app requires 2.1GHz, the Exynos can only supply 1.9GHz. Doesn't matter how many cores it has, they're not going to powerranger themselves into a giant 7.6GHz core. (Oh, how I wish they could do that....)
In my experience the Snapdragon 800 is still one of the most powerful chips in the market.
GPU: Keep in mind that an Exynos always comes with a low-end Mali GPU, and a Snapdragon comes with a high-end Adreno. If you plan to game or render 2K/4K films, you'll find the Mali to be insufficient. If you don't, it is entirely irrelevant. (It's basically the whole IntelHD vs Nvidia Geforce story.)
Batterylife. If you want it to last very long, go with the 9500mAh NotePro. If you intend to charge it every (other) day anyway, the 4000mAh Tab S2 is more than sufficient.
My NotePro (the Snapdragon version) lasts around 80 days in standby, or 25 hours of 1080p bingewatching. Doesn't mean they all do, I'm a bit of a controlfreak, but I do run Stock.
Screen. The Tab S2 has an AMOLED screen. Deeper colours, true black. The NotePro has an LCD screen, which means no true back and a bit more natural colours. (AMOLED on a 12.2" screen would make the device around 2000 quid, which is why they used LCD.)
On a second note regarding screen, the Tab S2 is 4:3, whereas the NotePro is 16:10. If you intend to use it for films and series, you'll find quite a bit of letterboxing(big black bars) on the Tab S2 as films and series are always in 16:10.
Oh, if you read comics or magazines, the NotePro screen is the exact size of a page. (In Europe where A(4) is the standard, anyway)
Weight. The NotePro is a beast, but it weighs like one, too. It's fairly light for its size (750 grams), but the Tab S2 is a whole 500 grams lighter. (270 grams). If you intend to carry it with you a lot, that might matter.
(It never did to me, as I used it to replace the 5kg laptop I lugged about, but not everyone favours usability over weight. I'm the (proud)weirdo who'd rather extend her jeans pockets than buy a smaller phone. (Note 3.) :silly: )
Size. The Tab S2 is small enough to fit inside a regular bag. The NotePro has the size of an A4 paper, meaning you'll need a bigger bag. On the other hand, a bigger screen means bigger screen realestate. The bigger screen also allows 4-way Multiwindow, instead of 2.
Futureproof hardware wise: The Snapdragon variant is literally a Note 3 with a bigger screen, so as for future proof.. The Note 3 is about equal to the Note 5 in terms of performance.
I expect it to run strong for about 4-5 more years, if the innovation remains as stuck as it is. (Most devices are actually a step backwards these days)
Futureproof Software wise: In terms of official firmware updates, you're better off with the Tab S2. The NotePro is a very niche model, and it's passed its maximum support age of 18 months, so it won't be getting any more updates, and it's not getting 6.0.
The Spen... It's a personal preference. The one in the NotePro is bigger than the one in the regular Notes, but the tech is the same. Pen Window, which allows you to draw resizable, floating apps anywhere on the screen( and with root every app can be enabled), is absolutely brilliant, and the pen keeps smudges off your screen.
But unless you're an artist and/or need the pressure sensitivity, that's where the advantages stop. Every other task can also be done with a regular stylus.
If you are an artist or a designer, you can use the NotePro as a Wacom drawing tablet (using a free app), which is bloody useful.
So, long answer short:
If you
+ Intend to do a lot of multitasking lighter tasks
+ Prefer a more manageable size and weight
+ Want a more beautiful screen
+ Want to receive future software updates
+ Want a more 'on the go/everyday use' tablet
- Don't need ages of battery life,
- Don't mind 4:3 or a smaller screen
The Tab S2 is the way to go.
If you
+ Intend to game/run heavy apps
+ Watch a lot of films
+ Intend to use it as a laptop replacement/for productivity
+ Want a bigger screen
+ Need longer battery life
+ Want an Spen
- Don't care much about updates
- Don't care about its weight and dimensions in terms of handling
The (Snapdragon) NotePro might be more your thing.
Unfortunately my Note Pro fell and I had to replace it. I got the S2 and it is a smaller screen at 9.7. super light weight (by comparison to the note pro !) and updated to 6.01.
The fingerprint recognition was pretty fast, and I thought I could just live with the smaller screen. Then I watched a movie. Huge letterboxing.... like really big. I dont like the 4:3.
Back in the box it goes, I am returning it and bought another Note Pro 12.2

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