Excited about the Z4 Compact, assuming it comes to market. But will there be any other such compact devices on the market with top-end specs?
Talking... fully-clocked CPU, 3GB RAM, 1080p, 3000 mAh battery, top camera with OIS, SD card
I wish OnePlus would make a compact version, but apparently the OnePlus Two will have a 5.5" screen.
The ~4.7" size seems like an abandoned market for Android if one seeks true flagship specs.
droydr said:
Excited about the Z4 Compact, assuming it comes to market. But will there be any other such compact devices on the market with top-end specs?
Talking... fully-clocked CPU, 3GB RAM, 1080p, 3000 mAh battery, top camera with OIS, SD card
I wish OnePlus would make a compact version, but apparently the OnePlus Two will have a 5.5" screen.
The ~4.7" size seems like an abandoned market for Android if one seeks true flagship specs.
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out of curiosity, what is a fully clocked CPU ??
Now for answering, well it depends, samsung may do another alpha(there are some that are high ends),and you can maybe call the one m9 a compact since its a 5'' screen (2015 seems 5.2'' + standard)
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out of curiosity, what is a fully clocked CPU ??
Now for answering, well it depends, samsung may do another alpha(there are some that are high ends),and you can maybe call the one m9 a compact since its a 5'' screen (2015 seems 5.2'' + standard)
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As in a CPU that is not underclocked, like most "compact" devices' (~4.7" screen size) CPU's normally are. For an example, compare the specs of the Z3 vs. the Z3 Compact - they're identical outside of the smaller screen size and more compact design of the Z3 C.
Samsung's Alpha had a totally different CPU, chipset, GPU, lower screen resolution, lower end camera, and smaller battery than the S5. So it didn't have flagship specs. This stripped-down device is similar to what most other OEMs have been doing recently when they release "mini" versions of their flagships. Problem is, these "mini" versions come with mini specs throughout.
M9 is not compact. True, its 5" screen isn't considered huge these days, but its design is still quite large. (5.7" tall vs. Z3 Compact 5.0" tall, big difference)
Right now, it looks like Sony is the only OEM who puts real flagship specs in a true compact device. I'd have no problem buying the Z4 Compact, but am just wondering whether it'll have any real competition this year.
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Please list which 5 upcoming android phones interest you the most. I compiled a list of possibilities below, but other new phones may be accepted. Discuss why if you want, add to the pros and cons.
Galaxy S3:
Pros – Exynos quad core 32nm processor that’s LTE capable, Ceramic casing, bezel-less design, ICS (rumoured to be stock vanilla not TW) 4.6+"large screen.
Cons – It’s all one big rumour for now. Plus will likely have TW.
HTC One X:
Pros – Tegra3 quin core, large 4.7” screen, 32GB storage plus 23GB dropbox, Bluetooth 4, 8MP 1080p recording. ICS, Available Now. Excellent Camera features.
Cons – No micro sd support, look of camera, heard dropbox only valid for 2 years. Debatable whether sense 4 falls in here.
LG 4x HD:
Pros – Tegra3 quin core, large 4.7” screen, 8MP camera w/1080p recording, good battery 2140mAh, NFC, Bluetooth 4, micro sd card ICS
Cons –MWC video demo seemed laggy
Asus Pad phone:
Pros – Versatile new phone concept that can fit in a tablet, dual core 1.5 GHz Krait a15 28nm processor, desirable 4.3 screen . Q2 release.
Cons – Possibly a pricy combo.
Droid Fighter:
Pros - Large 3300mAh battery, big 4.6 MP 720p screen, LTE, Bluetooth 4, ICS
Cons – possible rumour, nothing really known. Motoblur.
Motorola Atrix 3:
Pros – Tegra3 quin core, large 3300mAh battery, desirable 4.3” 720p screen, 10 MP camera. ICS
Cons – Almost all based on rumour with very little confirmed. Motoblur.
Fujitsu F12arc:
Pros – Tegra3 quin processor, highly water and dust resistant, Big 4.6” screen, 13 MP camera , 4GLTE (??? Thought it was incompatible with tegra 3 so far.)ICS
Cons – Unknown battery life, still ironing out ICS development glitches, maybe Q3 release or later.
Panasonic Eluga Power:
Pros - A fairly good processor 1.5GHz dual core Snapdragon S4 processor, Big 5” screen, water and dust proof, 8 MP camera, Fast Charge, ICS
Cons –Mediocre battery 1800 mAh, global launch details still speculated.
Hauwei Ascend D Quad:
Pros – Fast quad core, lovely 4.5” screen 1080p recording, good size 2500mAh battery ICS
Cons – Quality unproven, GPU unknown, might be a bit late to the game Q3-Q4
Because I'm on att, I would have to pick Galaxy s3, atrix 3, HTC one x, LG 4x HD, and Asus padfone in that order. nice gathering of all the rumors btw!
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Those are good choices. Tegra 3 is lovely and I hold a lot of respect for it, but the Exynos really intrigues me and 32nm will likely provide good power efficiency.
My list is similar Galaxy S3, Atrix 3, Fujitsu F12arc, HTC One X, Asus Padfone. Although the LG4x HD could easily be swapped for HTC One X. Optus didn't get any of the Atrix series though so I have to see what ends up here in Australia.
Im eager to see the eluga power.
Some more pros and cons for it:
Pro: Small form factor: As big as a galaxy nexus but with 5" Display, On Screen Buttons
Con: apparantly no LED Flash, no MHL or other video out, fixed battery
I have to add, that the device is ip57 certified - that means it is actually waterproof not only water resistant.
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Im eager to see the eluga power.
Some more pros and cons for it:
Pro: Small form factor: As big as a galaxy nexus but with 5" Display, On Screen Buttons
Con: apparantly no LED Flash, no MHL or other video out, fixed battery
I have to add, that the device is ip57 certified - that means it is actually waterproof not only water resistant.
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Good to see others adding additional info.
So voting for a tougher version, water proof version of the galaxy note with what should be a greater a15 version duo core s4 snapdragon processor is a great choice. A processor that is suppose to stand toe to toe with tegra 3. Or surpass it if certain benchmarks are to be believed.
The waterproof phones (I believed the F12arc also says waterproof, I don't list until I know it is) are now getting competitive processors, unlike the defy. Phones with great build and processors should always rank high on our lists. Glad to see someone voting that way. Just hope we get to see it. Aussie land hasn't seen the Razr Maxx yet, so I can only pray for the Eluga power or F12arc.
I have an LG Nitro HD. I like it fine, but I have been wanting another device to play around with. I will be getting a Samsung Galaxy S4 eventually, so I'd like my tinkering device to be something other than a large screen. I would love something that has a really small screen, but not a really crappy device.
Most things that I look at have had single core, 800 MHZ (or worse) CPU's. I think what I am going to end up with will be the Sony Ericson Xperia mini Pro. It has 1 GHZ Scorpion processor, 512 MB of RAM, and supports USB-OTG which is all pretty cool. http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_mini-3947.php
Does anyone have any experience with this phone? Does anyone know of a phone that is better or smaller? Also, does anyone know of any other cool, unique android devices?
I think u wont find any devices below 4' with decent enough hardware by today's standard. Either its big with full blown hardware or small but crappy and limited hardware. Yeah its sucks with current trend of bigger is better. Phone 4' and below is still much, much easier to handle with one hand than those humongous giants.
Sony Xperia U
1GHz dual-core processor, 5MP camera, 3.5″ Reality Display, 3D surround sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7FUGZiKIX8
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Sony Xperia U
1GHz dual-core processor, 5MP camera, 3.5″ Reality Display, 3D surround sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7FUGZiKIX8
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Currently using xperia mini pro and its a nice little phone. no complaints so far.
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i would strongly recommend the Xperia Mini Pro. U wont regret it.
Sorry to bump thread but it's #1 forum link for "best small phone" on google
I have a htc wildfire s on android 2.3.6, as it only has 512mb rom so it can't do 4.x
Really smooth, lasts 2 days / charge (with cheap ebay battery).Glass touchscreen. Rarely notice which pocket it's in...
Also worth mention, my Desire C.
Can handle 4.x, yet no open wifi driver, works, but kinda "hacky" when not on stock rom. cheap touchscreen made of plastic. Aldo really small, but a bit longer. Battery can last 3 days.
Both phones can be bought used for under 100$.
Still waiting, I'd be willing to pay 400$ on a 720p 3.5" with a dual 1ghz, 1gb ram, that lasts 2 days on a charge, in the wildfire's size !
Is there an android phone with spec similar to iphone 5S?
- 4" screen (or max 4.3")
- lightweight: 130grams or less
- Slim 8.5mm or less, not too big
- FAST user interface. Fast photos. Fast opening apps.
Thanks
The closest thing to that is moto g. And it costs only 1/3 of an iPhone.
the closest that you will get is the Motorola Moto G, which is considered a low-end device in contrast to the iPhone. So the price for the Moto G is much lower, but I assume you won't get the same great performance as on iOS.
There's also the HTC One Mini or the Galaxy S4 mini. Both feature a mid-range processor and over 1GB RAM. Because Samsung and HTC use their own customizations and User Interfaces I'd recommend using a custom ROM, like cyanogenmod. There is currently no official CM support for either devices, but I'm sure there are many ports available. These would offer a smoother user experience compared to the stock ROMs.
The best choice is to wait for the devices releasing early 2014. The Sony Xperia Z1S is said to arrive 2014 and this one beats all the "Mini"-Versions of other manufacturers, at least spec wise. It is said to offer a Snapdragon 800, 2GB RAM and an outstanding 20.7 megapixel camera. If price doesn't matter, what I assume when you're searching an iPhone-alternative, I'd wait for that one. I will probably consider it myself.
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There's also the HTC One Mini or the Galaxy S4 mini.
The Sony Xperia Z1S is said to arrive 2014, offer a Snapdragon 800, 2GB RAM and an outstanding 20.7 megapixel camera.
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thanks error,
kind of disturbing how superior the iphone 5s is to the S4 mini...
http://versus.com/en/apple-iphone-5-vs-samsung-galaxy-s4-mini
How can there not be a superior android phone with the same compact form factor???
edit: the huawei ascend p6 is slimmer, but taller. higher resolution i think.
fatjoez said:
thanks error,
kind of disturbing how superior the iphone 5s is to the S4 mini...
http://versus.com/en/apple-iphone-5-vs-samsung-galaxy-s4-mini
How can there not be a superior android phone with the same compact form factor???
edit: the huawei ascend p6 is slimmer, but taller. higher resolution i think.
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The mini versions have always been inferior to their flagship counterparts. Sony will release the Xperia Z1 mini next year though, same procesor and camera as its big brother but with a 4.3" screen.
Z1 mini has good specs,
But is bigger and bulkier
Not really a true competitor
I'm trying to find a phone that suits my needs, but it's proved difficult.
Currently I have a Galaxy SIII GSM phone.
I'd like a newer phone that's of similar size, 4.7 - 5.1 in or so, nothing remotely close to a Note3 in size. Also 2gb+ of RAM is mandatory, 1gb phones have all been ridiculously slow regardless of CPU. And rootable so I can install CM11+ on it.
Any suggestions?
phazei said:
I'm trying to find a phone that suits my needs, but it's proved difficult.
Currently I have a Galaxy SIII GSM phone.
I'd like a newer phone that's of similar size, 4.7 - 5.1 in or so, nothing remotely close to a Note3 in size. Also 2gb+ of RAM is mandatory, 1gb phones have all been ridiculously slow regardless of CPU. And rootable so I can install CM11+ on it.
Any suggestions?
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All the current flagships "phones". are 5.0-5.2". I say "phones" because I'm not including phablets like the Note or One Plus One or LG G3, HTC One M8 is 5.0", but is a pretty large phone because of the front speakers, ditto the 5.2" Sony Z2. The G2 is small for its 5.2" screen, and the smallest flagship, without going too far down in specs, is the Nexus 5. Smaller than that, and you're going to be compromising on processors. The Moto X has a 4.7" screen, as does the HTC One M7, but the specs aren't the latest or even the second latest. 2GB of RAM on each though, and both do run smooth and snappy. The Moto X is very compact despite the 4.7" screen.
The one exception to this is the Sony Xperia Z1 Compact. It has the same internals as the full size Z1 (Snapdragon 800 2.2GHz, 2GB RAM), but in a smaller size with a 4.3" screen. Personally though, I'd wait a month or two for the Z3 Compact (they skipped the Z2), which'll have the same height and width (but be a bit thinner) yet pack a bigger 4.6" screen. And front facing speakers and it's waterproof. One hell of a phone.
There are 3 threads already established that are devoted to discussions about devices, please read, and if necessary, repost your question in one of these threads: The what should I buy thread or the The Device Suggestion Thread or the The Device Comparison Thread.
There are also several other discussion threads that you probably should review to help you. They are What phone do you wish you had? or
The Worst Android Device That You've Ever Had & Why or even this place that talks about The best phone you ever owned.
Hi, I'm due for a new phone and need something high-functioning, - been on a N4mako for the past 2 years. It seems that the latest high end devices are all the size of nexus6 or Galaxy 5 which is huge. Is there anything around 4.5 inches diagonal that delivers?
Nexus5 is the obvious answer but i don't like switching devices often, and it's been around for a while. Will it hold for the next 2 years, or is there something better around that size?
Thx
PHP:
ctakah27 said:
Hi, I'm due for a new phone and need something high-functioning, - been on a N4mako for the past 2 years. It seems that the latest high end devices are all the size of nexus6 or Galaxy 5 which is huge. Is there anything around 4.5 inches diagonal that delivers?
Nexus5 is the obvious answer but i don't like switching devices often, and it's been around for a while. Will it hold for the next 2 years, or is there something better around that size?
Thx
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Sony Xperia Z3 Compact. Or, the Z1 Compact if you want something cheaper. The Z3 Compact has a 2.5GHz Snapdragon 801, 2GB RAM, 4.6" 720p screen, 16GB ROM/128GB microSD slot, and front-facing speakers. It's also waterproof and has amongst the best battery life of any smartphone. The Z1 Compact is last year's model (they skipped making a Z2 Compact), but is still a very well-built and very capable phone.
The 2013 Moto X is also a very nice, smaller Android phone. Same size screen as your Nexus 4, but with smaller dimensions. Its specs on paper aren't really "flagship", but it has a unique processor combination that makes the phone run without any lag, and you won't find it lacking in performance.
That's exactly what I was thinking ^
As mentioned the Z3 compact...