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Nexus Prime

Anyone selling up to get the Nexus Prime? I think I will. Hopefully they've ironed out the little faults with the S2.

I am, if there is expandable memory, and and not the 5m camera but 8m. Love the teaser shots so far and really like the curve screen. I would have the nexus s right now if it had a bigger memory.

It would be nice and I am tempted but I don't think I could cope with vanilla android even if it is ics.
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if it has
8m camera \ 2m
a gpu powerful than PowerVR SGX543MP2 (apple a5)
sdcard slot
I will change my galaxy s2

Here are the most accurate specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/possible_specs_of_the_nexus_prime_surface-news-3237.php

Update: A new batch of rumored specs have surfaced over on GSM Arena, and these seem to be more in line with what we'd expect of a new Nexus. According to an anonymous Google employee, that 4.65-inch Super AMOLED HD display mentioned above is just about the only spec to make the final cut. The processor, however, is more likely to be a dual-core 1.5GHz Exynos (that's right) with an accompanying dual-core PowerVR SGX543MP2 graphics chip. That rear facing camera? Try 8 megapixels with a newly beefed up sensor. The handset should also ship with a girthy 2,050mAh battery fully capable of juicing this apparent LTE / CDMA / GSM Android monster.
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I think the Galaxy S III will be vaguely similar and get a release around February so I might just wait for that. Got a while to go until my contract finishes and perfectly happy with my SGS2 right now.

I'm considering it. Pretty happy with my Galaxy S but that Nexus sure is tempting, for one it looks so sexy.
If it has the rumoured tablet dock I'm definitely sold.

HTC One X -VS- Samsung Galaxy SIII

The flagship of Samsung is now up and whoa! That is some latest piece of tech.
Specifications:
Samsung Galaxy SIII:
4.8" 720p SUPER AMOLED (pentile) Display.
1.4 GHz Quad Core.
8MP rear / 1.9MP front camera.
2100 mAh battery
16/32GB storage (64 coming soon) with sd card slot.
ICS with Touchwiz 4.0
HTC ONE X:
4.7" 720p Super LCD2 Display.
1.5 GHz Quad core.
8MP rear / 1.3MP front camera.
1800mAh battery.
32GB internal storage with no SD Card slot.
ICS with HTC Sense 4.0
My Opinion:
Well, specs ain't the only thing. The overall performance, feel in hand and overall experience of the phone really counts. I don't think it's a big leap forward as we already know HTC ONE X is a beast in itself.
I prefer HOX because I don't like touchwiz UI of Samsung and the build quality is better in HTC ofcourse.
Many people will go against me and that's how it goes in the world.
* Sense 4.0 is better than touchwiz.
* ImageSense is better than SIII camera.
* 1.5 GHz quad core (penta core to be precise) is better than 1.4 GHz Quad Core.
* The shape is actually better than SIII. Didn't like the shape of SIII. The shape is a serious letdown for me.
*I'll vote for One X against SIII*
IMPORTANT NOTE:
Buy the one you like. Vote for the one you admire. This sort of competition is good for the new technology. And at the end of the day THE BEST phone is one which is in your hands.
Enjoy your phone. Enjoy the talks.
Like THIS for a compliment.
Would love to listen from you people.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Have you owned both devices personally yet? Until you've had both side by side doing the same exact things then there is no way to properly determined.which is superior. Benchmarks are worthless. Seems you're already on Team HTC's bandwagon so you're mind is made up. There will be a billion GS3 posts on XDA and they will all won't be worth a ****.

rdubyah said:
Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Have you owned both devices personally yet? Until.you've had both side by side doing the same exact things then there is no way to properly determined.which is superior. Benchmarks are worthless.
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Yeah benchmarks are useless. That's why I didn't bring them into discussion.
I'm comparing the SPECS ONLY and there you see One X smashes SGSIII.
SGIII is built of polycarbonate as well but coated a sort of plastic layer (don't remember the name exactly) and that's ridiculous.
The bright shiny 720p SUPER LCD2 outclasses Pentile 720p Super Amoled.
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mohsinraza said:
Yeah benchmarks are useless. That's why I didn't bring them into discussion.
I'm comparing the SPECS ONLY and there you see One X smashes SGSIII.
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lmao biased much? only thing that is better is the screen.
Polycarbonate comes at the expense of microSD and (smaller) built in battery. Along with better battery you can pull out GS3 has a 32nm SOC instead of 40something which also saves battery and heats less.
Maybe the 7th One X you'll return will be on par with GS3.
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BTW Touchwiz vs Sense is kinda pointless as it depends on user preference, and anyhow were on XDA and you know how easy it is to just flash something different.

HTC..is interesting..very interesting

mohsinraza said:
The flagship of Samsung is now up and whoa! That is some latest piece of tech.
Specifications:
Samsung Galaxy SIII:
4.8" 720p SUPER AMOLED (pentile) Display.
1.4 GHz Quad Core.
8MP rear / 1.9MP front camera.
2100 mAh battery
16/32GB storage (64 coming soon) with sd card slot.
ICS with Touchwiz 4.0
HTC ONE X:
4.7" 720p Super LCD2 Display.
1.5 GHz Quad core.
8MP rear / 1.3MP front camera.
1800mAh battery.
32GB internal storage with no SD Card slot.
ICS with HTC Sense 4.0
My Opinion:
Well, specs ain't the only thing. The overall performance, feel in hand and overall experience of the phone really counts. I don't think it's a big leap forward as we already know HTC ONE X is a beast in itself.
I prefer HOX because I don't like touchwiz UI of Samsung and the build quality is better in HTC ofcourse.
Many people will go against me and that's how it goes in the world.
* Sense 4.0 is better than touchwiz.
* ImageSense is better than SIII camera.
* 1.5 GHz quad core (penta core to be precise) is better than 1.4 GHz Quad Core.
* The shape is actually better than SIII. Didn't like the shape of SIII. The shape is a serious letdown for me.
*I'll vote for One X against SIII*
IMPORTANT NOTE:
Buy the one you like. Vote for the one you admire. This sort of competition is good for the new technology. And at the end of the day THE BEST phone is one which is in your hands.
Enjoy your phone. Enjoy the talks.
Like THIS for a compliment.
Would love to listen from you people.
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Omg. Galaxy S3 GPU and CPU is much much better and best CPU and GPU on a mobile. New GPU is 400mhz. Just WTF. Even screen is best screen until today. I don't care about fancy stuff but new touchwiz is better than sense for me. REMEMBER THIS. Galaxy S with froyo have HW accelerated browser because of touchwiz. No one can touch S3 now. Tell me about glup. Byes.
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mohsinraza said:
Yeah benchmarks are useless. That's why I didn't bring them into discussion.
I'm comparing the SPECS ONLY and there you see One X smashes SGSIII.
SGIII is built of polycarbonate as well but coated a sort of plastic layer (don't remember the name exactly) and that's ridiculous.
The bright shiny 720p SUPER LCD2 outclasses Pentile 720p Super Amoled.
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Really interesting guys! There are 2 chances.
1- You didn't see a amoled screen.
2- You don't know about specs. Because One X doesn't have chance to own SGS3. Like S2 and Sensation. Even my sgs1 is faster and more ram than sensation.
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burakgon said:
Omg. Galaxy S3 GPU and CPU is much much better and best CPU and GPU on a mobile. New GPU is 400mhz. Just WTF. Even screen is best screen until today. I don't care about fancy stuff but new touchwiz is better than sense for me. REMEMBER THIS. Galaxy S with froyo have HW accelerated browser because of touchwiz. No one can touch S3 now. Tell me about glup. Byes.
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CPU & GPU won't make a difference until you play games HD games on the phone all day long. And for daily workings both are more than enough.
Whoa! You're kiddin' me. The pentile display is way too awkward. THIS IS NOT THE BEST SCREEN.
UI may come down to personal preference so not in discussion.
nebsif said:
lmao biased much? only thing that is better is the screen.
Polycarbonate comes at the expense of microSD and (smaller) built in battery. Along with better battery you can pull out GS3 has a 32nm SOC instead of 40something which also saves battery and heats less.
Maybe the 7th One X you'll return will be on par with GS3.
BTW Touchwiz vs Sense is kinda pointless as it depends on user preference, and anyhow were on XDA and you know how easy it is to just flash something different.
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32nm and 40nm actually have NO serious difference. Even S4 Snapdragon being 28mm isn't a outdated product. This actually is a no difference. Fifth core on One X is assigned to do the job as you've mentioned, less heat & longer battery.
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Both of them are great but I prefer Huawei ascend quad XL it has better specs

mohsinraza said:
32nm and 40nm actually have NO serious difference. Even S4 Snapdragon being 28mm isn't a outdated product. This actually is a no difference. Fifth core on One X is assigned to do the job as you've mentioned, less heat & longer battery.
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Sorry, but you're very very very wrong here. The difference between 40 and 32 is 20% less battery power for any given task. Between 40 and 28 is closer to 40% less battery usage.
Fifth core on Tegra 3 is technically retarded. Read Nvidia's white paper. The CPU can't have the fifth core on at the same time as any of the others, so Tegra 3 only saves battery power if you're not actually using your phone and it's only doing background tasks while the screen is off.
Furthermore, Tegra 3 has no dynamic voltage control. So if you were to watch a movie on a T3 device, and your email refreshes in the background, it would use the same processor power and clock speed as watching 2 movies at the same time. Both Krait S4 and Exynos 4 have dynamic voltage control.
Personally, I'd rather not have either device and wait for the LTE Padfone.

I had a SGS2... Moved from that to HTC One X because i just couldn't stand their TouchWiz UI..
The development on the SGS2 haven't been as i hoped, mainly due to their drivers.
Sorry, but i will stick with my HTC One X

sreza said:
Personally, I'd rather not have either device and wait for the LTE Padfone.
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What is the price of the Padphone at the release? I know you can preorder it around 1000 dollars

thatdefault said:
What is the price of the Padphone at the release? I know you can preorder it around 1000 dollars
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If you do a comparison vs what you would pay otherwise, it's actually much cheaper to get a Padfone than the alternatives.
Padfone+Padfone Station+Station Dock+BT stylus= ~$1000
Est. cost for data on ATT: $20-50 depending on plan size, $30 unlimited if you're grandfathered in like me
Apple:
iPhone 4S= $600
iPad 3rd gen= $600
BT keyboard case= $50
Total: $1250
Est. cost for data on ATT: $65 per month
Android:
HTC One X= $650
Transformer Prime+KB Dock= $700
Total: $1350
Est. cost for data on ATT: $65 per month
So you actually save at least $250 initially, and another $360-$1080 from data costs (Calculated using ATT required 5gb plan for data tethering= $65 per month, cheapest alternate for separate data plans is $55 per month).
If you're a particularly frugal data user, the Padfone system will actually pay for itself and leave you $80 further in the black than you were before your purchase compared to the alternatives!

All of these international One X fans need to remember that the dual core AT&T One X beats out the quad core international tegra 3 version in terms of performance. The quad core exynos is going to SMASH the One X! That being said, I still like the One X better. The SGSIII is like the GNEX's ugly little sister.

The problem is phones are very expensive here and the price won't go down anytime soon the price of galaxy S II is higher than neighboring countries and the price went up when the G model was announced Asus products are very expensive here TF 101 + keyboard dock costs more than the prime + dock. Thank God Dubai isn't far

lowandbehold said:
All of these international One X fans need to remember that the dual core AT&T One X beats out the quad core international tegra 3 version in terms of performance. The quad core exynos is going to SMASH the One X! That being said, I still like the One X better. The SGSIII is like the GNEX's ugly little sister.
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Why would the Exynos chip in the SG3 be faster than the Tegra 3 in the One X?
They're both A9 chips, Exynos is clocked at 1.4 while Tegra 3 is clocked at 1.5. Sure, the Exynos chip has wonderful features like the 32nm build and dynamic voltage control, but those only affect how efficiently it uses the battery. What affects speed is your Cortex class (both A9) and your clock speed, in which case Tegra 3 should theoretically perform slightly better.
I'm pretty sure any speed differences are going to come down to the differences between TouchWiz and Sense, not the specs on the phone.
And therefore, ATT One XL with the extended battery and the Krait S4 chip will probably perform better than the SG3 by the same degree that testing shows that it already performs better than the Tegra 3 One X.

Both of these phones have pretty awesome specs, so in that respect, I think personal preference is going to overrule anything else.
BUT, I have the Amaze 4G, and HTC has made it impossible (so far) to make a ROM that isn't based on their own Sense based ROM. As far as what I can see, HTC's One line is going to be even harder to develop. I enjoy trying different ROMs way too much to stick with HTC from this point forward (unless HTC changes their evil ways ).
As far as the different launchers, I haven't ever really liked a stock launcher on Samsung, HTC, or even LG (I think Cyanogenmod finally got it right with Trebuchet in their CM9 builds). I almost always put in a custom launcher.

i like samsung galaxy s3
ram management in htc one x is si bad

Let's take a look at the facts:
Screen :We will see who has the better screen when the reviews are released.
Proccesor :As shown on the becnhmarks the SGS3 is the faster one.
GPU :Again the SGS3 as shown by the recent benchmarks
Battery :SGS3 has an exchangable batter the HTC One X does not.SGS3 has also the bigger battery.
MicroSD :SGS3
Front camera :SGS3 again 1.3 vs 2.0 MPX
Back camera :Still unknown who has the better camera,but that will be revelead soon.
Storage:SGS3 again 64 GB + micro SD ,HTC ONE X 32 GB no microsd
Design :That's a matter of taste.
The SGS3 is obviously the better phone hardware wise plus it has many more features like eye tracking and S voice that the HTC ONE X lacks.

- UI I could care less what each has. I'm an XDA member and never have stock... lol.
- Processors sound like they'll be identical on the US phones, so that's a non-issue for me as well.
- HTC's lack of SD is a bit worrisome for me since the US only has 16 GB. That may limit what I can store, especially as apps get bigger and bigger. So there's one mark against the One X for me.
- Screens, the Galaxy is a tiny bit bigger, but I need to see peoples reviews that have been able to spend time with both to judge. What's on paper doesn't always matter.
- Camera is kind of important to me. I'm sick of my Captivates crappy camera. Reviews of the One X make it sound like it's awesome. I haven't seen much mention of the S3's yet besides "it looks good". Will have to see how reviewers rate it. It also sounded like the models they were showcasing weren't the final product for the camera either or am I just imagining things?
- GPS is important to me too. Again.. Captivate.... OMG!! I've heard nothing bad yet about the One X, and heard nothing about the S3, so we'll see.
- Aesthetics, build quality, etc... meh, whatever. It's a phone. It sits in my pocket. It goes in my hand and I look at the screen. I don't really care all that much what other people think of my phone while I'm mesmerized by the screen. If panels are falling off, buttons breaking etc. yeah that's bad but I'm pretty confident that won't happen on either phone.
So given that the One X already has a mark against it due to the lack of SD card slot and tiny 16 GB storage (I'm on a 2 GB plan, not unlimited so cloud and stuff isn't a very viable option for me) the S3 would have to have a crappy camera and or faulty GPS for me to consider the One X over it I think.

One S vs. Galaxy S2

Hey guys,
I've been using the T-Mobile USA Samsung Galaxy S2 for about 9 months now, but it recently had a screen issue that required a warranty replacement.
T-Mobile has offered to replace it with another S2, or with a One S.
My last HTC was the HD2 and MyTouch 4g, both of which I loved. But having used the S2 for awhile now, it has been a great device.
I could use some help if anyone here has used both phones and cares to offer an opinion. Is there a major difference in the screen?

1s>s2. S3 would be a wobbler

el_smurfo said:
1s>s2.
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Can you expound on that?

Better specs and build all around

el_smurfo said:
Better specs and build all around
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How about the screen? I've read that the SGS2's super amoled is better than the One S. Not sure if that's accurate or not...

1s is great. Go compare for yourself if this concerned with a phone. On the Internet you will only get subjective opinions that are meaningless

One s all the way .... But then again I dont like Samsung much
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maek_it_happen said:
One s all the way .... But then again I dont like Samsung much
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I just finished reading the AnandTech review of the One S, and it's pretty glowing.
Odd as it may seem, I think the biggest hangup I have is how used to TouchWiz I am!
I know many people hate it, but it has grown on me.
That, and I hate to give up the MicroSD card slot. I keep a lot of music and pictures on my phone.
I'm really leaning towards the One S,tho.

nova hands said:
Hey guys,
I've been using the T-Mobile USA Samsung Galaxy S2 for about 9 months now, but it recently had a screen issue that required a warranty replacement.
T-Mobile has offered to replace it with another S2, or with a One S.
My last HTC was the HD2 and MyTouch 4g, both of which I loved. But having used the S2 for awhile now, it has been a great device.
I could use some help if anyone here has used both phones and cares to offer an opinion. Is there a major difference in the screen?
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From my experience. I owed some of your phone and HTC One S never let me down. The screen isn't big compared to SG2, but design is elegant, sexy slim.
If course it offer sense 4.0 and development thread offered option roms.
And you're into big screen and newer tech you best options is SG3.
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nova hands said:
I just finished reading the AnandTech review of the One S, and it's pretty glowing.
Odd as it may seem, I think the biggest hangup I have is how used to TouchWiz I am!
I know many people hate it, but it has grown on me.
That, and I hate to give up the MicroSD card slot. I keep a lot of music and pictures on my phone.
I'm really leaning towards the One S,tho.
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My sis had a Samsung , thing was nothing but problems. Since going to an HTC device and using sense she know realises how much better HTC is .
I must note that the biggest difference is Samsung phones are open to root users .
If HTC only allowed s-off ....:banghead:
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maek_it_happen said:
If HTC only allowed s-off ....:banghead:
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My SGS2 hasn't had a single issue until the line in the screen showed up.
So the HTC can't be rooted? I don't understand what you mean...

No obviously it can be rooted , didn'tean to confuse or mislead . It's just certain HTC devices don't have an exploit for s-off .... Wich means boot IMG need to be flashed separaty in fastboot after you flash your Rom . Once/if we ever get s-off then you could flash normally ,
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S2's Super AMOLED Plus display crushes the One S display. On my One S, I had signal issues. Plus the One S doesn't have a removable battery or expansion slot. Although the One S does have a sleek design and a better S4 SnapDragon processor (assuming the replacement is S4)

The one S is the much better phone.
Advantages of one S, assuming you get the S4 version:
- audio (the best audio there is along with the GS 3 and possibly the iphone 5 now)
- best CPU chipset (CPU is better than the quad in the GS 3 and the X when it comes to performance per core, power efficiency and heat) and it is the fastest device I have used to date, faster than the GS 3 quad etc.
- best battery life excluding the RAZR max and possibly the iphone 5
- better screen than the GS 2 (read anandtech's review, they class it as being the best SAMOLED display they have ever used essentially) The only downside of it is that it isn't 720P and slightly larger, but the calibration of the screen is very good and IMO the overall quality when it comes to the colours etc. is better than the GS 3 SAMOLED screen
- build/perceived quality
- IMO design/looks
- one of the best cameras, although 1080P recording isn't great
- sense V4 IMO (the camera UI and features can't be matched as well as a few other things)
- NLED, although a crap NLED
Disadvantages for some people:
- low internal storage (10GB for videos, photos etc. and 2.21 GB for apps) and no SD slot
- no NFC
- non removable battery
Advantages of the GS 2 over the S:
- removable battery
- SD slot
- better developing community
- 1080P recording in terms of smoothness and light metering
The phone is superb, however, HTC's support for the S with regards to the updates is shocking and is why I might move to one of the new nexus devices if they match or better the S!

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- best CPU chipset (CPU is better than the quad in the GS 3)
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hahaha
Don't compare quadcore A9 with dual core A15.
Our Krait is fast but is a piece of **** comparing with quadcore from exynos.
GPU is sucks here also. We can't even play full 1080p video in desktop mod, because ****ty adreno 225. Games are lags also.
U didn't see that ? No ? Because you do not know the difference
Quadcore is a quadcore son. Don't be stupid.

avetny said:
hahaha
Don't compare quadcore A9 with dual core A15.
Our Krait is fast but is a piece of **** comparing with quadcore from exynos.
GPU is sucks here also. We can't even play full 1080p video in desktop mod, because ****ty adreno 225. Games are lags also.
U didn't see that ? No ? Because you do not know the difference
Quadcore is a quadcore son. Don't be stupid.
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I see you haven't educated yourself any further since I last pwned you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31643039&postcount=14
Back to your nursing home "pa". Leave technology to the younger generation.
PS. Regarding the 1080P not being played back, ever heard of a thing called software optimization? I guess you haven't......
Take those 1080P youtube videos and play them back in BS player and they work flawlessly.
Also what games are these? Poorly optimized games? Every game I have tried has been super smooth on the S.
HTH

Terminator19 said:
I see you haven't educated yourself any further since I last pwned you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31643039&postcount=14
Back to your nursing home "pa". Leave technology to the younger generation.
PS. Regarding the 1080P not being played back, ever heard of a thing called software optimization? I guess you haven't......
Take those 1080P videos and play them back in BS player and they work flawlessly.
Also what games are these? Poorly optimized games? Every game I have tried has been super smooth on the S.
HTH
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S III Release date: 22 May 2012
and your review made in May 01 2012.
Let me guess ATT decided to pay for review, so as a to resist fraud complaints.
Im gonna see later on review when they will release Galaxy note2 with quadcore.
I can say samething like u do....benchmarking is not optimized for quadcore.
And any way Krait A15 it's based on the same instruction set as the new ARM A15 processors"
please be sure to make clear the Qualcomm "Krait" Soc's are NOT full A15 architectures. they are BASED on A9's with heavily modified architectural features from the A15 ARM reference design, but the Krait is NOT a full A15.
Qualcomm lengthened Krait's integer pipeline slightly from 10 stages in Scorpion to 11 stages in Krait. ARM's Cortex A15 design by comparison features a 15-stage integer pipeline. The A15's deeper pipeline should give it a clock speed advantage as well.
there are many differences between Qualcomm's S4 "Krait" architecture and ARM's A15 design.
Just as Qualcomm's "Scorpion" A8-based chips weren't completely A9's either although they were heavily modified to include some A9 features.
Egypt test favors Vertex shading power, and Mali400 is intentionally lacking in that department. If you were to built a test that was pixel shader heavy, the results would be more balanced. You saw this same kind of thing happen in the GeForce 7, Radion X1900 era, when it was nVidia that decided it was better to have more Pixel power than Vertex power. The SGX doesn't haven't to worry about that since it's USA.
Remember how much it had not been optimized it still dual. And it means that you are limited in the maximum load. (DUAL WITH THE DAMN LOW RESOLUTION ! Which is BIG POINTS in benchmarking.)
U never use your phone how I do. Try to run media in car by Bluetooth, and surf the internet. when your google navigation is ON. What u gonna say now ? Is not optimized yet? Now do everything same on quadcore exynos...it will do it "like a boss".
I can give you fact after fact for a long time...but it's no point. U just got HTC one s...and I got cellphone store. I do not need to read reviews, I'm the one who makes them.

Terminator19 said:
The one S is the much better phone.
Advantages of one S, assuming you get the S4 version:
- audio (the best audio there is along with the GS 3 and possibly the iphone 5 now)
- best CPU chipset (CPU is better than the quad in the GS 3 and the X when it comes to performance per core, power efficiency and heat) and it is the fastest device I have used to date, faster than the GS 3 quad etc.
- best battery life excluding the RAZR max and possibly the iphone 5
- better screen than the GS 2 (read anandtech's review, they class it as being the best SAMOLED display they have ever used essentially) The only downside of it is that it isn't 720P and slightly larger, but the calibration of the screen is very good and IMO the overall quality when it comes to the colours etc. is better than the GS 3 SAMOLED screen
- build/perceived quality
- IMO design/looks
- one of the best cameras, although 1080P recording isn't great
- sense V4 IMO (the camera UI and features can't be matched as well as a few other things)
- NLED, although a crap NLED
Disadvantages for some people:
- low internal storage (10GB for videos, photos etc. and 2.21 GB for apps) and no SD slot
- no NFC
- non removable battery
Advantages of the GS 2 over the S:
- removable battery
- SD slot
- better developing community
- 1080P recording in terms of smoothness and light metering
The phone is superb, however, HTC's support for the S with regards to the updates is shocking and is why I might move to one of the new nexus devices if they match or better the S!
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Thanks for the in-depth comparison. This really helps me make a decision.
I hate to give up the quality 1080p recording of the S2, but the One S just seems like the next step in tech.
I'm gonna give it a shot because of the things you've mentioned, and because I'm guaranteed to get a new phone vs. a potentially refurbished S2.

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S III Release date: 22 May 2012
and your review made in May 01 2012.
Let me guess ATT decided to pay for review, so as a to resist fraud complaints.
Im gonna see later on review when they will release Galaxy note2 with quadcore.
I can say samething like u do....benchmarking is not optimized for quadcore.
And any way Krait A15 it's based on the same instruction set as the new ARM A15 processors"
please be sure to make clear the Qualcomm "Krait" Soc's are NOT full A15 architectures. they are BASED on A9's with heavily modified architectural features from the A15 ARM reference design, but the Krait is NOT a full A15.
Qualcomm lengthened Krait's integer pipeline slightly from 10 stages in Scorpion to 11 stages in Krait. ARM's Cortex A15 design by comparison features a 15-stage integer pipeline. The A15's deeper pipeline should give it a clock speed advantage as well.
there are many differences between Qualcomm's S4 "Krait" architecture and ARM's A15 design.
Just as Qualcomm's "Scorpion" A8-based chips weren't completely A9's either although they were heavily modified to include some A9 features.
Egypt test favors Vertex shading power, and Mali400 is intentionally lacking in that department. If you were to built a test that was pixel shader heavy, the results would be more balanced. You saw this same kind of thing happen in the GeForce 7, Radion X1900 era, when it was nVidia that decided it was better to have more Pixel power than Vertex power. The SGX doesn't haven't to worry about that since it's USA.
Remember how much it had not been optimized it still dual. And it means that you are limited in the maximum load. (DUAL WITH THE DAMN LOW RESOLUTION ! Which is BIG POINTS in benchmarking.)
U never use your phone how I do. Try to run media in car by Bluetooth, and surf the internet. when your google navigation is ON. What u gonna say now ? Is not optimized yet? Now do everything same on quadcore exynos...it will do it "like a boss".
I can give you fact after fact for a long time...but it's no point. U just got HTC one s...and I got cellphone store. I do not need to read reviews, I'm the one who makes them.
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What?
Your post makes no sense at all apart from the middle part......Please learn how to write proper English with the correct use of grammar before posting.
Anyway, taking parts of your post that I can just about make out.
What review are you talking about? None of the reviews I have linked to were created on the 1st May and my review was done near the end of April.
Yes, benchmarking apps aren't optimised for quad core, therefore every expert review site will still use it anyway, seems legit.......
Emm, I said to compare the XL instead of the S, due to the S having a lower res. than the GS 3. The XL has the same res. as the GS 3 and it still beats the GS 3 quad in those benchmarks that I posted.....
I have never used my phone for that, so I can't comment from my own experience on that particular usage. What you are referring to is multi-tasking, which HTC have ****ed up on, they even said it is a "feature", therefore that is why you are probably having issues with doing those 3 things at the same time, again down to software optimization, not hardware.
Ok so you have this "cellphone store" of yours, yet you use a HTC one S as your main phone instead of your beloved GS 3, yeah ok........
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Thanks for the in-depth comparison. This really helps me make a decision.
I hate to give up the quality 1080p recording of the S2, but the One S just seems like the next step in tech.
I'm gonna give it a shot because of the things you've mentioned, and because I'm guaranteed to get a new phone vs. a potentially refurbished S2.
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No problem

Got the One S last week.
Absolutely love this phone, but my reception at home and at work has suffered as a result of the switch.
I'm not sure why, but I don't get enough signal in my house to make a call now. I was getting 2 solid bars of service with my Galaxy S2.
Are there different radios for this device that I can try?

Anyone else want to speculate on the Samsung Galaxy S IV?

Just a harmless conversation based on what the next Samsung flagship phone might receive based on trends of the mobile industry. You can offer your own opinions and/or critiques.
With the Nexus 4, sporting a very powerful S4 Snapdragon quad processor, 320 Adreno GPU, 2 GB of RAM and the standard HD display, it's sure to be the strongest thing we have until the HTC Butterfly (now dubbed the HTC DNA) comes (reportedly to Verizon) sporting a 1080p screen, probably the same processor and RAM, as well as a bigger battery.
It's clear that the competition within the Android ecosystem isn't as monopolized by Samsung like it was a year or two ago - at least in terms of quality products. The Galaxy S II stayed not only as the top Android phone, but the top phone period for almost a whole year. It seems that HTC and LG have stepped up their game and are putting out functioning, competitive products. The Galaxy S III kind of fell off the performance radar within 4-5 months. (comparatively speaking)
Samsung has been reportedly testing 3 GB RAM on experiment phone models; if that made it to the final product of the GSIV, that would make it a trend-setter in that regard. It's also going to come with the new-generation 13 megapixel camera module, which is slated to desolate any popular 8 MP camera shooters on the market - such as the HTC One X, Galaxy S III (the worst of the bunch on the front-facing camera) or iPhone 5 with its color-reproduction and low-light performance.
As for the processor, I hope they throw in the ultra-powerful Exynos 5450 (the Cortex-A15 quad-core) rated at around 2 GHz, it will absolutely eat the already unbelievably fast S4 Krait quad in the upcoming megaphones for breakfast. The Mali-658 GPU from the aforementioned would probably also be on par, if not better than that in the iPad 4's A6X's GPU. Last but not least, anyone else hoping we'll see a beautiful Super AMOLED HD Plus display (or whatever they'll call it) with full 1080p?
All of these rumors and speculation sound reasonable at this point, given what we've been seeing in the market place. If it all turned out to be true, the Galaxy S IV would be leaps and bounds above any smartphone upon its release and maybe easily throughout the year subsequent to its release. I'm actually excited that the competition within Android is picking up steam. The harder these companies compete against each other, the more us, as consumers win.

In the next generation phones, most of them would be compatible with nfc payments, like Google wallet or isis.
I expect faster processor and a minimum of 2 gb of ram.
Most likely, every phone will come in different screen sizes. So you can choose a particular phone with your choice of screen size.
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2gb ram
nvidia tegra 3 graphic chipset
5.0inch screen super amoled screen 12mp camera,with burst mode
and maybe some new technolgy

deaddrg said:
2gb ram
nvidia tegra 3 graphic chipset
5.0inch screen super amoled screen 12mp camera,with burst mode
and maybe some new technolgy
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Why would they use Tegra 3 chips - which are only Cortex-A9's and the fact that Samsung develops their own chipset means they would opt for their own before another chipset commonly found in its competitors.

deaddrg said:
2gb ram
nvidia tegra 3 graphic chipset
5.0inch screen super amoled screen 12mp camera,with burst mode
and maybe some new technolgy
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Mhmmm future

megagodx said:
Why would they use Tegra 3 chips - which are only Cortex-A9's and the fact that Samsung develops their own chipset means they would opt for their own before another chipset commonly found in its competitors.
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I sure hope they don't use the tegra chipset. That'll make them depend on nVidia for updates.

more batery life
It's great that a lot of attention is put into adding better specs (RAM, CPU, features like NFC, etc), but my biggest concern is that they' don't pay enough attention to battery life. I don't understand why they don't invest more in this field.
Here's to hoping that Samsung will care more about this and innovate in this area.

The Upcoming Motorola Droid Lineup's Gaming Capabilities

I'm very interested in the potential gaming performances of the upcoming Motorola devices, in light of the fact many people are less than excited for their releases due to their non cutting-edge specs.
The Droid MAXX, Droid Ultra and Droid Mini are all confirmed to be equipped with Motorola's new X8 Mobile Computing System, and the Motorola X is almost guaranteed to come with it as well.
The X8 consists of 8 cores, and they are categorized as:
- 2 application processor cores
- 4 graphics processor cores
- 1 contextual computing processor core
- 1 natural processor core
The overall X8 MCS is exciting for a variety of reasons, with the main one being that because of the highly custom and optimized system, the battery will enjoy a heavily increased lifespan. The gaming capabilities, however, are of course the main focus of this thread.
This is what Motorola has to say about the graphics processor cores:
"Four powerful graphics processors each running at 400 MHz delivering 3.2 million pixel fill rate,16 shader units, 512kb dedicated cached memory and running the Egypt performance benchmark at a blazing 155 frames per second (FPS). Fully compliant with Android Project Butter."
Being (apparently) based off the Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro, the X8 comes with an Adreno 320 GPU.
For a comparison, here are the results of other comparable devices tackling the Egypt GLBenchmark 2.5:
Galaxy S4 - 40 FPS; HTC One - 32 FPS; Optimus G Pro - 27 FPS; Nexus 4 - 44 FPS.
Just ignore the 1080p and 720p aspects here. True, the Nexus 4 cruises through thanks to its 720p display requiring less work. However, this only serves to enhance the X8's power; while it has an Adreno 320 just like all the devices listed above except for the S4, it completely blows them out of the water - all the upcoming Motorola devices will have a 720p display. I know we're talking on a synthetic level here and that real world performance can differ, but surely this is too big a difference to brush aside like that?
What do you guys think? Is there really more to the Motorola X and and new Droid lineup than meets the eye, for those who look at it purely from a specs perspective?
For all the information, this is the link I used: http://www.androidauthority.com/mot...guage-processing-contextual-computing-247346/

Yeah, the thing about upcoming Motorola phones is, that their graphic chips are not midrange at all. Based on benchmarks they are elite. That's similar to Apple strategy - people say their specs are nothing special, but in fact their graphics is far superior compared to Android devices.

Sounds something like Amiga did in the 90's with dedicated chips for various things, alleviating the need for hefty CPU's as the load was shared between the specialist chips - watching the news/reviews on this with interest.

what about the battery life
I think it needs 5000mAh battery:laugh:

ASMI1 said:
what about the battery life
I think it needs 5000mAh battery:laugh:
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Hopefully the battery won't be too much of a problem. The Nexus 4's battery life is probably its weakest point (2100mAh), and the Moto X (as an example) is speculated to be coming with a 2200 mAh battery, and also has a 4.7 inch 720p display. Bear in mind, however, that Moto X has the custom X8 system optimised for battery life, and has a dual-core CPU as opposed to quad-core.

Beplexor said:
Hopefully the battery won't be too much of a problem. The Nexus 4's battery life is probably its weakest point (2100mAh), and the Moto X (as an example) is speculated to be coming with a 2200 mAh battery, and also has a 4.7 inch 720p display. Bear in mind, however, that Moto X has the custom X8 system optimised for battery life, and has a dual-core CPU as opposed to quad-core.
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Yup, but I think with an app like greenify the battery life won't be a problem anymore (or you can reduce the screen density, this help too much)

One thing i've been trying to figure out: Does it come with 4 adreno 320's? Because I have not found any sources that say 1 adreno 320 has 4 cores. Does anyone have a source for this info?

Beplexor said:
I'm very interested in the potential gaming performances of the upcoming Motorola devices, in light of the fact many people are less than excited for their releases due to their non cutting-edge specs.
The Droid MAXX, Droid Ultra and Droid Mini are all confirmed to be equipped with Motorola's new X8 Mobile Computing System, and the Motorola X is almost guaranteed to come with it as well.
The X8 consists of 8 cores, and they are categorized as:
- 2 application processor cores
- 4 graphics processor cores
- 1 contextual computing processor core
- 1 natural processor core
The overall X8 MCS is exciting for a variety of reasons, with the main one being that because of the highly custom and optimized system, the battery will enjoy a heavily increased lifespan. The gaming capabilities, however, are of course the main focus of this thread.
This is what Motorola has to say about the graphics processor cores:
"Four powerful graphics processors each running at 400 MHz delivering 3.2 million pixel fill rate,16 shader units, 512kb dedicated cached memory and running the Egypt performance benchmark at a blazing 155 frames per second (FPS). Fully compliant with Android Project Butter."
Being (apparently) based off the Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro, the X8 comes with an Adreno 320 GPU.
For a comparison, here are the results of other comparable devices tackling the Egypt GLBenchmark 2.5:
Galaxy S4 - 40 FPS; HTC One - 32 FPS; Optimus G Pro - 27 FPS; Nexus 4 - 44 FPS.
Just ignore the 1080p and 720p aspects here. True, the Nexus 4 cruises through thanks to its 720p display requiring less work. However, this only serves to enhance the X8's power; while it has an Adreno 320 just like all the devices listed above except for the S4, it completely blows them out of the water - all the upcoming Motorola devices will have a 720p display. I know we're talking on a synthetic level here and that real world performance can differ, but surely this is too big a difference to brush aside like that?
What do you guys think? Is there really more to the Motorola X and and new Droid lineup than meets the eye, for those who look at it purely from a specs perspective?
For all the information, this is the link I used: http://www.androidauthority.com/mot...guage-processing-contextual-computing-247346/
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Independent benchmarks of the Moto X (same X8) indicate that the "155 fps egpt benchmark" score has a typo. Specifically a freaking addition of a 1.
The moto X got 55 fps on that test. Sure it's enough to beat the S4 and One on graphics specs, but that's still false freaking advertising. Those are old phones (in smartphones 6 months is a whole product cycle).
Guess all the people *****ing about specs were correct.
here's the benchmarks. pathetic. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...he-moto-x-sports-a-great-gpu-respectable-cpu/