Apple won a lawsuit against Samsung, thus many of their older devices are now going to be banned from being sold in the US. This includes the Skyrocket.
http://smartphones.reviewed.com/news/apples-lawsuit-win-spells-the-end-of-old-samsung-phones
In fact, it's not even listed on Amazon anymore.
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Apple won a lawsuit against Samsung, thus many of their older devices are now going to be banned from being sold in the US. This includes the Skyrocket.
http://smartphones.reviewed.com/news/apples-lawsuit-win-spells-the-end-of-old-samsung-phones
In fact, it's not even listed on Amazon anymore.
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Kind of pointless for a phone that hasn't been discontinued for years. That phone come out in late 2011 and was a piece of **** anyways.
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Kind of pointless for a phone that hasn't been discontinued for years. That phone come out in late 2011 and was a piece of **** anyways.
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Some people still use it, even if it's just used as a music player. Saying that it was a piece of excrement is merely your opinion. It was about a year ago that I switched from my old Skyrocket to the Moto G 2014 I'm using now, but the switch was a personal choice. It still worked quite well.
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Some people still use it, even if it's just used as a music player. Saying that it was a piece of excrement is merely your opinion. It was about a year ago that I switched from my old Skyrocket to the Moto G 2014 I'm using now, but the switch was a personal choice. It still worked quite well.
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It isn't really opinion. It was so slow that I missed like 75% of calls because it took so long to register the swipe to answer. I would launch even as simple app like the calculator and count to 3 before it even started to show on the screen. Even a factory reset didn't make any difference. The battery life was terrible too. An 1.5 hours screen on time with 8 hours off the charger and the battery was dead and even buying a new battery didn't help. I also had to replace the back cover 3 times because of how easily it wore out.
I'm 32 years old and have made a LOT of purchases in my life. Buying the Skyrocket was literally the worst purchasing decision I ever made. When I replaced it(after .5 years of ok use and 1.5 years of hell) with my Nexus 5 I actually smashed the phone with a hammer.
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Kind of pointless for a phone that hasn't been discontinued for years. That phone come out in late 2011 and was a piece of **** anyways.
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speak for yourself.
mines going onto 4yrs of use, still my dd, everything works, boots up fast to cm10.2, every app works, quick and responsive, original battery, dropped it numerous times and nothing broke, best phone ive ever had.
i read ur other post and maybe you just got a lemon as there are still many users using this phone considering its 4yrs old, not too many phones last that long w/out some kind of failure
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speak for yourself.
mines going onto 4yrs of use, still my dd, everything works, boots up fast to cm10.2, every app works, quick and responsive, original battery, dropped it numerous times and nothing broke, best phone ive ever had.
i read ur other post and maybe you just got a lemon as there are still many users using this phone considering its 4yrs old, not too many phones last that long w/out some kind of failure
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Maybe with a custom ROM it might be a little better. With the stock Samsung ROM it was awful even after factory reset. As far as hardware goes the build quality was still terrible. At the end I almost couldn't charge it any more since the USB port got so damn loose. If I picked up the phone while it was plugged in the USB cable literally fell out of the port. And the back cover, what a joke.
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Maybe with a custom ROM it might be a little better. With the stock Samsung ROM it was awful even after factory reset. As far as hardware goes the build quality was still terrible. At the end I almost couldn't charge it any more since the USB port got so damn loose. If I picked up the phone while it was plugged in the USB cable literally fell out of the port. And the back cover, what a joke.
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Still going strong here! All original parts and rockin marshmallow...who would've thought this phone would make it this far. Glad you were able to find a phone that you like and are now able to move on. Later
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I just fired mine up after being in a drawer for a few months. Still works great.
Pretty snappy for a phone that is nearly 5 years old.
My rocket is still blasting to the sky! On it 10-16 hours daily! Text, email, calls, pictures and games. I had to fix the power button once.
This phone is a rock!
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Kind of pointless for a phone that hasn't been discontinued for years. That phone come out in late 2011 and was a piece of **** anyways.
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Are you sure you aren't thinking about the original Galaxy S2? The Skyrocket got a CPU upgrade along with LTE support, and it definitely wasn't a PoS. My wife and I finally upgraded when the batteries stopped holding much of a charge, but I keep them around and they are still reasonable devices. We certainly never had a problem with not being able to answer a call, or apps taking too long to load.
I have one on Sultan's old KK ROM and the other I'm using as a test-bed for Candy6. I will admit that LP and MM have been poky on these old phones, but hell, they are 5 years old at this point. That's an awfully good run for any device.
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Are you sure you aren't thinking about the original Galaxy S2? The Skyrocket got a CPU upgrade along with LTE support, and it definitely wasn't a PoS. My wife and I finally upgraded when the batteries stopped holding much of a charge, but I keep them around and they are still reasonable devices. We certainly never had a problem with not being able to answer a call, or apps taking too long to load.
I have one on Sultan's old KK ROM and the other I'm using as a test-bed for Candy6. I will admit that LP and MM have been poky on these old phones, but hell, they are 5 years old at this point. That's an awfully good run for any device.
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Nope, I'm thinking of the Skyrocket. I had one. I got it in December of 2011. It was AT&T's first LTE phone. Maybe you had better luck if you had a custom ROM but the stock Samsung software was awful. Even after a factor reset. Worst purchase of any kind I have made......EVER.
Well that was your problem right there. TouchWhiz was particularly awful during those days. It's still not great, but it was absurdly bloated in Android 4 (ICS, JB). If you could revert to Gingerbread, it was actually a decent device with stock, but then you would be running Gingerbread...
CyanogenMod actually ran pretty well, though, and fixed most of the issues Samsung introduced.
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speak for yourself. mines going onto 4yrs of use, still my dd, everything works, boots up fast to cm10.2, every app works, quick and responsive, original battery, dropped it numerous times and nothing broke, best phone ive ever had.
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Here, here
I'm posting from my rocket. What year is it? This thing's a beast.
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I'm posting from my rocket. What year is it? This thing's a beast.
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It's been quite a few years since I retired my Rocket, but I remember it fondly. Today, I'm using a Pixel 2 XL and I love it.
Still using a Skyrocket, just as an mp3 player though. It's running CM 13.0, and its not that bad.
Considering the phone is over 10 years old, It's pretty amazing modern apps still work on it. I would love to push it with an Android 10 ROM, but sadly I've only seen Android 7 being the highest version supported by the community. I think this phone just got lost to time unlike the regular S2.
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http://androidforums.com/t-mobile-g2x/336262-optimistic.html
sounds like the same story with t-mobile with every smartphone, waiting more waiting, then tease, then release the official updates for every other phone but the one i chose. i suspected they were pushing this out to fast. personally i would have waited another couple weeks myself to get a gingerbread/bug free released phone without the 4 returned phones before this 5th g2x. i came from the Vibrant though (great phone, just had a no support from tmobile or samsung and had some hardware bugs) so my opinion is definitely a biased one lol. At least we got some awesome developers for this phone
what do you guys think?
I'd hardly call this news. Confirmed speculation at best. With all of the supposed software issues (battery life for one) I'm not in the least surprised the GB update isnt happening as quickly as some would hope.
Doesn't really say much. Just that it was rushed.
Kills me though. People are always like, "RELEASE IT ALREADY" and are in a hurry to get it and when they do rush devices they get mocked as not being perfect.
Would you rather have a phone that is less then perfect and released months ahead so we can play with it and hack it or pushed back months and bug free?
Me personally, I'd rather get it in my hand and play with it. In a few months, when it "should" have been released, the issues "should" be resolved.
I dunno. Almost a month after it's release and we have tons of roms and kernels. If you are having problems, there is nothing stopping you from fixing them. If you are looking for a bug-free stable phone then don't buy cutting edge devices.
And for what its worth, the only hardware issue is backlight bleeding. The other stuff is just gimpy software which most has already been corrected by custom roms.
G2x + Custom Roms = No complaints.
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And for what its worth, the only hardware issue is backlight bleeding. The other stuff is just gimpy software which most has already been corrected by custom roms.
G2x + Custom Roms = No complaints.
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I have to disagree here. Everyone has been so quick to blame the lockups / reboots on faulty software, but from my experience, it most definitely is related to a hardware problem. I've had three g2x's now, I treat them exactly the same with the exact same programs installed. One locked up multiple times a day. Another locked up once a day. The other seems to only have a weekly hiccup.
Im thinking hardware defect here - maybe too low voltage on the soc? No clue. But there's definitely a difference between hardware on this one.
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Doesn't really say much. Just that it was rushed.
Kills me though. People are always like, "RELEASE IT ALREADY" and are in a hurry to get it and when they do rush devices they get mocked as not being perfect.
Would you rather have a phone that is less then perfect and released months ahead so we can play with it and hack it or pushed back months and bug free?
Me personally, I'd rather get it in my hand and play with it. In a few months, when it "should" have been released, the issues "should" be resolved.
I dunno. Almost a month after it's release and we have tons of roms and kernels. If you are having problems, there is nothing stopping you from fixing them. If you are looking for a bug-free stable phone then don't buy cutting edge devices.
And for what its worth, the only hardware issue is backlight bleeding. The other stuff is just gimpy software which most has already been corrected by custom roms.
G2x + Custom Roms = No complaints.
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Agreed!
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I'm just hoping they can pull the fix from the O2x and apply it to our phones.
They = Devs
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/16/lg-...-rolling-out-to-europe-to-fix-random-reboots/
I do wish they would have put off the release of the phone a few more weeks to work out kinks, but overall I don't think things have been that bad.
The light leakage thing is interesting because I think tons of devices have this, only people like us notice. Mine is pretty minor and so far everything else is great, so I'm gonna stick with it for now. I don't ding LG/T-Mobile that much for the light leaks
Random reboots however are bad, but at least it looks like they have identified the issue, and we should get it pretty soon on the G2x. I do wonder how a software issue is worse on some devices than others though.
The update to Gingerbread will be nice, but it isn't a ton of difference. I like bleeding edge stuff as much as the next guy, and ran CM7 nightlies when they were first available for my Evo, but I would much rather they take a few weeks longer and clean up any issues than rush it out.
Based on what people say about the Atrix (I know it has a 30% bigger battery) I expect the battery life is pretty bad on this phone, and might see a huge improvement with an update. I'd much rather have that vs. getting 2.3 sooner.
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Doesn't really say much. Just that it was rushed.
Kills me though. People are always like, "RELEASE IT ALREADY" and are in a hurry to get it and when they do rush devices they get mocked as not being perfect.
Would you rather have a phone that is less then perfect and released months ahead so we can play with it and hack it or pushed back months and bug free?
Me personally, I'd rather get it in my hand and play with it. In a few months, when it "should" have been released, the issues "should" be resolved.
I dunno. Almost a month after it's release and we have tons of roms and kernels. If you are having problems, there is nothing stopping you from fixing them. If you are looking for a bug-free stable phone then don't buy cutting edge devices.
And for what its worth, the only hardware issue is backlight bleeding. The other stuff is just gimpy software which most has already been corrected by custom roms.
G2x + Custom Roms = No complaints.
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Agreed. I've had no issues as well except really minor bleed that doedn't bother me a bit.
After installed xiialive, streaming issue resloved.
The ONLY issue left is ogg vorbis tag problem.
I may try CM7 to see whether this problem is fixed.
This is my 5th g2x, all of them had issues from rebooting, overheating, or having to pull the battery to boot up anytime i charged it. they also all had pretty bad screen bleeding. this one doesn't for the most part. also a couple had a couple with major signal issues. this 5th hasn't had any issues yet and ive had it for a week and a half so looks good. I think its a mixture of both hardware and software. new dual-core cellphone technology with an old Android OS that was surpassed almost a year ago. I'm sure Ice Cream sandwich will be completely built for only multi-core devices so hopefully this phone gets it..... in 12 months?
Have you been getting new batteries every time as well? There are murmurings of it being a battery issue.
Im having the same problem with phone rebooting by itself or sometimes it just turns off. An there is time where the screen just goes black, and have 2 remove battery it sux :/. Love the phone and all but if this keeps happening to my phone think might just go ahead and sell it :/
I had the reboot issue and an issue where the device would loop through the LG screen and not boot up (had to do a reset); when I called T-Mobile about this they sent me a new battery. I received the battery last week and have not had any issues since replacement. Moreover, my battery life has increased TREMENDOUSLY. I always thought it was a software issue, but maybe it's the battery - or maybe it's only a matter of time before the phone corrupts this battery.
yup. each time i returned the whole box with all accessories, battery included. i even tried getting new sim cards 3 times.
FWIW I have been able to reproduce the battery freeze bug at will. Use device until battery is drained, attempt to turn it on until it will not even flash the exclamation at you anymore, plug it in and "viola" it won't start again w/o battery pull. I have tested the multiple times with 2 devices
The first device had this random bug "in the wild" so to speak. The second has ONLY exhibited it when I perform the above procedure.
My second likes to randomly reboot, but ONLY when running the stock rom. It's rebooted completely randomly at least 5 times (once when charging, once with screen off sitting on my desk, twice with screen on as I was looking at it, and once moments after turning the screen off and putting it in my pocket. It has NEVER rebooted while running CM7 (as buggy as it still curently is) Eaglesblood (1.2/3 and now 4 or with Other Kernels (though I did have some random shutdowns-- no reboot-- with Faux's Kernel and CM7)
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Doesn't really say much. Just that it was rushed.
Kills me though. People are always like, "RELEASE IT ALREADY" and are in a hurry to get it and when they do rush devices they get mocked as not being perfect.
Would you rather have a phone that is less then perfect and released months ahead so we can play with it and hack it or pushed back months and bug free?
Me personally, I'd rather get it in my hand and play with it. In a few months, when it "should" have been released, the issues "should" be resolved.
I dunno. Almost a month after it's release and we have tons of roms and kernels. If you are having problems, there is nothing stopping you from fixing them. If you are looking for a bug-free stable phone then don't buy cutting edge devices.
And for what its worth, the only hardware issue is backlight bleeding. The other stuff is just gimpy software which most has already been corrected by custom roms.
G2x + Custom Roms = No complaints.
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So you'd rather be the beta tester for the phones you buy? And if the company you bought the phone from can't fix the issues (or choose to ignore it)? Like Tmobile's dealings with the Vibrant. Sorry but bending over and letting these companies take advantage of customers like this... is stupid. By accepting shifty/****ty devices you are giving them the green light to push out devices without proper quality control in the future... And with T-Mobiles reputation of being honest with customers I wouldn't put so much trust in the capacity of these companies to polish phones post release. They are only going to want to focus on their next big project...
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I have a feeling android 2.4 will be out before we even get 2.3. This, "it's coming soon," is getting old. Said the same for the MT4G.
that makes me feel optimistic. similar procedure for rebooting issues with previous phones for myself as well. well if t-mobile ever releases update (LG gave it to them weeks ago LG has said) before our phones all meltdown, fry, or explode then we'll have one bad ass phone
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I have a feeling android 2.4 will be out before we even get 2.3. This, "it's coming soon," is getting old. Said the same for the MT4G.
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That's what they said about the Vibrant too... h'm, I'm sensing a pattern here lol.
This **** would be unacceptable if this happened on an iPhone (though... much could be said of the iPhone userbase's... erm, pickiness. So maybe thats how they ensure results lol.)
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That's what they said about the Vibrant too... h'm, I'm sensing a pattern here lol.
This **** would be unacceptable if this happened on an iPhone (though... much could be said of the iPhone userbase's... erm, pickiness. So maybe thats how they ensure results lol.)
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+1
also i agree with that post a couple above my last. $600 phones should not have problems. that's why we pay so much, convenience/awesomeness/functionality. for the best of the best at the time, otherwise we could just take the cheap smartphones all the carriers release that you never hear about.
I think. anyone here leave the fascinate for charge and happy/unhappy? pros cons? thanks
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Sorry the promotion ended today. I was just told this buy a vzw rep when I went to get my new charge activated.
Still though the patch for missed calls was released today and the fassy is a great phone. Good luck.
And if I were you I'd still try.
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Sorry the promotion ended today. I was just told this buy a vzw rep when I went to get my new charge activated.
Still though the patch for missed calls was released today and the fassy is a great phone. Good luck.
And if I were you I'd still try.
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What are you talking about? It's not a promotion, it's a warranty replacement. You could hold on the the fascinate until the day your 1 year warranty is over and get a replacement phone because the phone is broken.
OP: I did the same thing 2 weeks ago and couldn't be more happy. You're going to love the charge.
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I think. anyone here leave the fascinate for charge and happy/unhappy? pros cons? thanks
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Its pretty awesome I think. Battery life is decent, the screen is amazing, 4G is super fast, touchwiz is easily covered and/or removed (with some awesome roms) the front camera (as well as back) is nice, and speaker quality is loud but top notch... however it has the same internal memory and RAM as the Fassy plus hard buttons on the bottom, also some report problems with output through mini HDMI but this could be due to cables or errors with apps/tv's. All in all a solid upgrade, a notification LED and a little better internal hardware (RAM and memory) and this would be a near perfect phone
blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge 4G
I love everything about this phone, even the little quirks you'll discover...except for the battery life. But there are tons of threads here telling about how to remedy this.
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I have small hands, so to me the phone feels just a tad big, but the awesome screen, huge keyboard, and easy to read texts and web pages more than make up for it. Reception is outstanding, too! It's a noticeable improvement over my old fascinate.
thankyou for the replies! so im getting pretty much all positive? great step up from the fassy? i thought there WAS an LED notification? wah. not that it would be a deal breaker.. ive been dealing with no LED since i got this phone in feb. but i had a D1 and loved the LED. either way. i like the front facing camera.. and if its a replacement and its that much of an upgrade than why not do it if i can? plus my phone does have terrible service. always missing calls and texts.. i thought it was just my phone. didnt realize till this deal took place that it was that widespread. size factor.. is it THAT much bigger than the fassy?
Samsung doesn't put notification LEDs on their new phones. Not on the Charge, not on the Nexus S, and not on the Galaxy S II. Unfortunately we don't even have BLN for the Charge because the code is currently incompatible.
As for size, yes, it's significantly larger than the Fascinate, no matter what anybody tells you. But the size doesn't bother me nearly as much as I thought it would.
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What are you talking about? It's not a promotion, it's a warranty replacement. You could hold on the the fascinate until the day your 1 year warranty is over and get a replacement phone because the phone is broken.
OP: I did the same thing 2 weeks ago and couldn't be more happy. You're going to love the charge.
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I think he means that the tech bulletin no longer allows for a change to a Charge. A buddy of mine who got approved to have his Fascinates changed a few days ago got denied today because they are releasing the OTA that fixes the problem.
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I think he means that the tech bulletin no longer allows for a change to a Charge. A buddy of mine who got approved to have his Fascinates changed a few days ago got denied today because they are releasing the OTA that fixes the problem.
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ah really??? that sucks so should i even bother trying lol i dont want to put my phone back to stock just to get denied. although i do have other issues that im sure werent "fixed" with the update.. ie: unresponsive screen frequently and plenty of freezes/reboots.
I found it ironic that the day receive my Charges, they release the OTA. I was defaulting my Fascinates before sending them back, and *POOF*, ED05 Corporate. So far, I haven't had it running long enough to make an opinion on the Charge, but you can't argue with that speed. I noticed that my screen flickers when it turns on. Anybody else seeing this?
Charge kills the Fascinate...you won't look back trust me. I was expecting worse battery life and have experienced the exact opposite which is a plus. I don't think there's even a comparison when you factor in 4g, build quality, super amoled +. I'm personally loving my Charge right now.
I seem to love my charge I just am sad over no led notification and the bottom buttons don't wake up the phone. But all in all I'm liking it.
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Got my Charge ordered today, I'll be joining y'all when I pickup my phone next weekend.
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Eris _2.1_2010 said:
Got my Charge ordered today, I'll be joining y'all when I pickup my phone next weekend.
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so then theres still a possibility i can get it? everyones saying the offer has been pulled since the ED05 update rolled out today and was supposed to fix all the issues..
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Got my Charge ordered today, I'll be joining y'all when I pickup my phone next weekend.
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Sorry, the bandwagon is full LOL!...Sorry, I couldn't resist! I think its a much better phone then people give it credit for... definitely exceeded my expectations.
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I seem to love my charge I just am sad over no led notification and the bottom buttons don't wake up the phone. But all in all I'm liking it.
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That's for a very good reason. Think about it: if the physical bottom buttons woke up your phone, it would wake up like crazy while in pockets or purses. Those get pressed all the time on my phone just by walking around.
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so then theres still a possibility i can get it? everyones saying the offer has been pulled since the ED05 update rolled out today and was supposed to fix all the issues..
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I called on sunday and they sent out a dinc2. I ended up going to the store today and got it ordered and they did mention an ota was bein sent out. Just wish I could've got my charge today but I left town today and I'll get it when I get back home next weekend.
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Eris _2.1_2010 said:
I called on sunday and they sent out a dinc2. I ended up going to the store today and got it ordered and they did mention an ota was bein sent out. Just wish I could've got my charge today but I left town today and I'll get it when I get back home next weekend.
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hmm.. well maybe ill still attempt it if you went in and got it ordered today..you got the charge as a REPLACEMENT or bought it out?
Very much enjoyed the transition. Missing CM7 and fully customized GB kernels, but they will come in time.
Screen is significantly larger. Phone is noticeably thicker, but nowhere near the brick that the Thunderbolt is. 4G is amazing - and maybe I just got super lucky, but after flashing GC GBE's latest via ODIN right upon getting the phone, I have the most amazing battery life I have ever experience in a smartphone. On a grade of Blackberry (-2921912912) to iPhone (+8239238932) - the Charge has (thus far) been even better than the iPhone on battery. At first I thought it was because I'm on WiFi all the time (now that WiFi actually works, unlike with the Fascinate) - so with the data radios disabled, it was sipping juice... however, out and about and even on 4G/3G border, I still get ridiculous battery life.
I still can't believe I managed to make a 15 minute drive, hang out in a store for 15 minutes (using 4G to product compare the whole time), make a 15 minute drive home.. at it was still at 100%.
My fascinate would've been in the 80s by then.. if not worse.
tl;dr: amazing battery, better radios in ALL aspects compared to fascinate, bigger screen, only missing CM7 and custom GB kernels.. and it's a bit thicker.
I love the Droid Charge's hardware, I really do. Those first-gen Galaxy S PenTile AMOLED displays drove me nuts, LTE is the effing truth, and thankfully, the Wolfson DAC is just as killer as it was last time around -- I came from a Vibrant on T-Mobile.
As you can probably imagine, I'm loathe to give up LTE. And I've got incredible respect for the work that imnuts, imoseyon, the GummyCharged bros, and all the other developers here and at RW are putting into this phone to make it usable -- seriously, you guys are awesome. But the day-to-day with this phone is just wearing on me hard, and I really miss the serene world of stable CyanogenMod. These days, my battery will randomly choose days to die before I'm even home from work, the GPS chip doesn't seem any better than the Vibrant's was, the phone is noticeably less responsive than a CM7 device with similar internals, I still occaisionally get launcher redraws, and though it's improved considerably with EP3HA I still sometimes get data dropouts.
I know it's the same **** you guys all complain about, I guess I just wonder if anyone else has literally gotten so frustrated with it that they gave up the sweet nectar of LTE to get the hell away from this disaster of a software implementation. I joined the Galaxy S party late in the Vibrant's lifespan so I had a really positive experience thanks to all the great development people had done for it. I didn't really get the full flavor of "Samsung Disease" until this phone, and for chrissake, I can see why people were running the hate parade.
Has anyone else here gone back (or thought about going back) to an Ev-DO phone just for a better software experience? We can pretty much guarantee that the resale value of this phone is going to completely tank after the G-Nexus launches so I'm thinking it makes sense to get some cash out of it now. I literally won a clean ESN Fascinate auction on eBay last night for $81, so I'm psyched about that.
Incidentally I'll probably just buy another Charge for 81 dollars at this time next year after it's rocking official CM7. Then again, maybe the Galaxy Nexus will be cheap by then.
Thoughts?
Here's my thought: The grass is always greener. This is the Groundhog Day of phone forums.
If you want to go back to a 3G phone, how about you set your Charge to 3G only? That way it behaves the same as a Fascinate.
Cm7 is far from stable my friend. Try getting a nightly that doesn't play well with your kernal. Once you've bricked from this you will understand. In a year this will all be different. Phones are being released to developers first now to tweak them for the hard release. Think of it this way... The linux command for superuser, or "su" does not hurt the machine, but opens up commands to fine tune to the user's preferences. If we are given the base framework to recover to, there is no harm in supercharging the system, just so long as we can "reset" it in case of a system failure or resource exhaustion. Just wait until google buys MORE into samsung's development.
Speed rules...
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If you want to go back to a 3G phone, how about you set your Charge to 3G only? That way it behaves the same as a Fascinate.
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No kidding.. my thoughts exactly. This phone is without a doubt superior to the fascinate... then again, to each his own.
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As much as I love my rock solid stable fascinate tsm poolparty 1.5 with glitch v13 rc, Im moving on to the charge bought off funzy32. Why? because I got it for $185. I dont plan on having issues with the charge, because ive never had problems with any android device in three years which seems un-realistic, but Im sticking with my good luck reasoning. The charge in terms of development is still in its infancy. Hell, my first verizon device was an htc incredible and over a year later it is still being improved. I have absolute faith that the charge will be continually developed on. The fact is that it is not a low end device or a middle of the road device either. As many problems as the failure device known as the fascinate has. It currently has an Ics sdk port that from my understanding is pretty insane in its infancy. If the fascinate can make it, the charge will be doing the same.
I'd go back in a second! Sadly I had to send in my fassy to get this garbage.
I was thinking the same thing a couple days ago. I miss my fassy a lot, but it had its issues like calls never coming in or texts not going out. 4g is unbelievably fast...didn't expect it to be this fast, it trumps home internet like many have said.
The fassy was the better phone overall though no doubt. I regret getting the charge as a replacement. I don't have any issues with it but it just doesn't feel right.
You guys are quite the whiney lot.
OP, why don't you post what setup you were running so that maybe we could help diagnose your issues.
Obviously battery life on the Fascinate is going to be much better than on the Charge, with its larger screen and battery sucking LTE.
I've found the battery life to be tolerable on the Charge as long as I'm not doing anything ridiculous like streaming audio/video for long periods of time. I live outside of LTE service location so I have my phone set to CDMA only. As of right now, after a typical day of use (probably 30 texts, 30 minutes of Pandora streaming, 20 minutes of phone calls, and probably 3 solid hours of screen-on time while browsing) my battery has 40% charge after 7 hours and 20 minutes unplugged.
If your conscious about how you are using the battery it is pretty manageable. Turn off LTE when you don't need it. Turn off mobile data when you aren't using it. Switch onto a wifi signal when one is available. Turn off GPS when you're not using it. This is pretty common sense stuff.
As far as screen redraws, use V6 Supercharger. I used to be annoyed to no end because of redraws. Since loading the script, I've had maybe 4 redraws in about a month. I don't even notice it anymore.
Also, if you miss TSM, the latest GummyCharged has it. Just have to go over to Rootzwiki to get it, they don't care for xda anymore.
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This. I'm tired of people bashing this phone. Sure, it has some issues, but if you're that fed up with is just get rid of the phone. No sense in continuously *****ing about it.
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This. I'm tired of people bashing this phone. Sure, it has some issues, but if you're that fed up with is just get rid of the phone. No sense in continuously *****ing about it.
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Agreed. I really don't even understand the gripes. I guess its just me, but I believe this is hands down the best smartphone I've ever owned. Sure, I miss CM7 a bit which I too had on my fassy, but as I've heard mentioned before, what can the fassy do that the Charge cannot? Unless I'm being an absolute phone hog, I can easily go 12 hours a day without turning ANYTHING off. I don't get screen redraws, static phone calls, data drop offs, or any of the other complaints. I occasionally have some minor Rom nuances but you get that with just about any Rom and Android phone. I'm seriously loving my Droid Charge experience! I don't get the whining or the constant threads on this topic. If you don't like it, you don't need our approval to move on. Just get rid of the phone and move on already!
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I thought I was pretty clear in my OP, but maybe not. I miss CyanogenMod. That is the main thing that I miss. The Charge doesn't have it. I guess I also miss having a small device, but that's not a fair complaint right now -- LTE radios are chunky, and I recognize that.
The battery life has been a really big sore spot for me, too. I've tried setting the phone to CDMA/Ev-DO only (completely ignoring the ridiculousness of carrying a larger, more expensive device and toggling off its best feature) to get a feel for what I'd be getting into speedwise if I switched to a Fascinate. I rarely use GPS, and leave it turned off.
It doesn't seem to have any effect on the battery; on Wednesday I ran it CDMA-only and barely used the device at all outside of an hour or so of PowerAmp playback and a handful of Google searches and GV messages. I took it off the charger with 100% juice at 7:15 AM, and it was dead by 6:30 PM. The maddening part is that it's crazy inconsistent: there are days where it makes it through the whole day with 30% or so left,even though I've had LTE turned on all day and have been using the phone fairly extensively. I definitely don't think it's a hardware problem -- Engadget swears they got two days in their review of this thing. The best guess I've been able to piece together is that the battery loss has something to do with with the phone's poor tower handoffs, because I've noticed a pattern of having a dead Charge on days where I move from place to place a lot. Days where my only destinations are home and work don't seem to exhibit the issue as much.
I suppose I'm past the point of being interested in solving it, and the device's limited community uptake (relative to something like the Nexus phones, or several of the more popular HTCs) doesn't help. That's the hugely exciting thing about the Galaxy Nexus -- we at least know it'll be crazy popular here, at Rootzwiki, and everywhere else. I just hope it's got a decent DAC and headphone amp, because otherwise the Fascinate and the Charge are still going to be my future.
Someone asked me to post my setup, so I guess I'll repeat myself. I'm running EP3HA debloated. I've tried it with the stock kernel and with imoseyon's kernel -- didn't notice major differences either way. Compared to its predecessors, EP3HA has been an incredible improvement -- I ran the gamut and tried everything before, but I probably spent the most time with assorted builds of GummyCharged FE. I switched to EP3HA once I saw that imoseyon got Voodoo Sound working on his kernel, and I definitely believe that's currently the best way to use the Charge. I get fewer launcher redraws, and data drops less -- but make no mistake, there are still redraws and drops. I do firmly believe that this phone is headed toward greatness; in a year or so it's going to be a really amazing choice if it keeps improving at this rate. So, I'm coming back in a year. I've just grown weary of living with a problematic phone when Android itself has been done so much more gracefully on other devices -- how can any Charge owner deny that? Even if you love the device's hardware (as I do), have somehow had no issues (lol), and intend to keep it... the ability to run AOSP ROMs and to consistently get through the day on a single charge are irrefutably pretty big advantages.
One of my pals got a Droid Charge the same day as me, and has been experiencing all these same issues. In fact, our decisions to switch -- me to the Fascinate and him to the DInc -- were born out of frequent griping to each other about how poor the day-to-day with the Charge has been. Of course we hate losing LTE, it's obnoxious. The biggest reason we're paying Verizon's hilariously awful prices was to get access to LTE 700, and hopefully we'll get to come back to it soon. It's kind of a bummer because this has been his first Android device (he came from an iPhone 3GS). I told him the day we got our phones that I really wished Verizon had a solid LTE device with mature CyanogenMod support, because Samsung puts out a really embarassing version of Android and it's a super ****ty first impression to show him of the platform I've grown to love. "But," we said, "having LTE should make up for it."
It almost does. Almost.
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This. I'm tired of people bashing this phone. Sure, it has some issues, but if you're that fed up with is just get rid of the phone. No sense in continuously *****ing about it.
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Do you work for Samsung? Why on earth could you possibly be bothered by people objectively stating their complaints about a half-baked product? I signed a two-year contract for an overpriced unfinished smartphone too, dude. I'm in the same boat as you.
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If you want to go back to a 3G phone, how about you set your Charge to 3G only? That way it behaves the same as a Fascinate.
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Look how bad your post is. This is a bad, bad post.
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I thought I was pretty clear in my OP, but maybe not. I miss CyanogenMod. That is the main thing that I miss. The Charge doesn't have it. I guess I also miss having a small device, but that's not a fair complaint right now -- LTE radios are chunky, and I recognize that.
The battery life has been a really big sore spot for me, too. I've tried setting the phone to CDMA/Ev-DO only (completely ignoring the ridiculousness of carrying a larger, more expensive device and toggling off its best feature) to get a feel for what I'd be getting into speedwise if I switched to a Fascinate. I rarely use GPS, and leave it turned off.
It doesn't seem to have any effect on the battery; on Wednesday I ran it CDMA-only and barely used the device at all outside of an hour or so of PowerAmp playback and a handful of Google searches and GV messages. I took it off the charger with 100% juice at 7:15 AM, and it was dead by 6:30 PM. The maddening part is that it's crazy inconsistent: there are days where it makes it through the whole day with 30% or so left,even though I've had LTE turned on all day and have been using the phone fairly extensively. I definitely don't think it's a hardware problem -- Engadget swears they got two days in their review of this thing. The best guess I've been able to piece together is that the battery loss has something to do with with the phone's poor tower handoffs, because I've noticed a pattern of having a dead Charge on days where I move from place to place a lot. Days where my only destinations are home and work don't seem to exhibit the issue as much.
I suppose I'm past the point of being interested in solving it, and the device's limited community uptake (relative to something like the Nexus phones, or several of the more popular HTCs) doesn't help. That's the hugely exciting thing about the Galaxy Nexus -- we at least know it'll be crazy popular here, at Rootzwiki, and everywhere else. I just hope it's got a decent DAC and headphone amp, because otherwise the Fascinate and the Charge are still going to be my future.
Someone asked me to post my setup, so I guess I'll repeat myself. I'm running EP3HA debloated. I've tried it with the stock kernel and with imoseyon's kernel -- didn't notice major differences either way. Compared to its predecessors, EP3HA has been an incredible improvement -- I ran the gamut and tried everything before, but I probably spent the most time with assorted builds of GummyCharged FE. I switched to EP3HA once I saw that imoseyon got Voodoo Sound working on his kernel, and I definitely believe that's currently the best way to use the Charge. I get fewer launcher redraws, and data drops less -- but make no mistake, there are still redraws and drops. I do firmly believe that this phone is headed toward greatness; in a year or so it's going to be a really amazing choice if it keeps improving at this rate. So, I'm coming back in a year. I've just grown weary of living with a problematic phone when Android itself has been done so much more gracefully on other devices -- how can any Charge owner deny that? Even if you love the device's hardware (as I do), have somehow had no issues (lol), and intend to keep it... the ability to run AOSP ROMs and to consistently get through the day on a single charge are irrefutably pretty big advantages.
One of my pals got a Droid Charge the same day as me, and has been experiencing all these same issues. In fact, our decisions to switch -- me to the Fascinate and him to the DInc -- were born out of frequent griping to each other about how poor the day-to-day with the Charge has been. Of course we hate losing LTE, it's obnoxious. The biggest reason we're paying Verizon's hilariously awful prices was to get access to LTE 700, and hopefully we'll get to come back to it soon. It's kind of a bummer because this has been his first Android device (he came from an iPhone 3GS). I told him the day we got our phones that I really wished Verizon had a solid LTE device with mature CyanogenMod support, because Samsung puts out a really embarassing version of Android and it's a super ****ty first impression to show him of the platform I've grown to love. "But," we said, "having LTE should make up for it."
It almost does. Almost.
Do you work for Samsung? Why on earth could you possibly be bothered by people objectively stating their complaints about a half-baked product? I signed a two-year contract for an overpriced unfinished smartphone too, dude. I'm in the same boat as you.
Look how bad your post is. This is a bad, bad post.
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... and people wonder why the Gummy team left XDA.
If you wanted a phone that ran CM7, why'd you buy a phone that didn't have it? You should be well aware of how development works, there are no guarantees. I just think it's hilarious that you're going to pay your own hard earned money to downgrade your phone just because your particular favorite toy isn't on there.
I mean sucks that you're having some relatively minor problems with your Charge, but the Fascinate was no angel either. Have fun with your dropped / missed calls, front buttons that push themselves and total garbage GPS lock times.
To be honest, it sounds like you know the game here, so I assume you did your homework before your bought it, so really, you have no one but yourself to blame.
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... and people wonder why the Gummy team left XDA.
If you wanted a phone that ran CM7, why'd you buy a phone that didn't have it? You should be well aware of how development works, there are no guarantees. I just think it's hilarious that you're going to pay your own hard earned money to downgrade your phone just because your particular favorite toy isn't on there.
I mean sucks that you're having some relatively minor problems with your Charge, but the Fascinate was no angel either. Have fun with your dropped / missed calls, front buttons that push themselves and total garbage GPS lock times.
To be honest, it sounds like you know the game here, so I assume you did your homework before your bought it, so really, you have no one but yourself to blame.
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Since when was usability a toy? Maybe it's his fault for buying a phone that doesn't have CM7, but it's not his fault the phone's stock firmware is garbage. Why are you all apologists for this device? Is it because you bought it? Do you guys go around, telling people how your phone is the best phone no matter what, all because you paid money for it and to do otherwise would make you feel stupid?
Just be honest. The phone kinda sucks. It'd be one thing if the battery life was just bad, but the fact that it varies from day to day is like having a car that gets 25mpg on some days and 12mpg on others. It's one thing to tolerate mediocrity, but to defend it is absolutely despicable. You all should be ashamed.
Multiple times, across multiple firmwares (humble, gummy, fe and gbe, infinity beta w/ ep3ha) I've had the phone lag at inappropriate times that resulted in committing an action that I absolutely did not want.
For example, and I think this was on Gummy 2.0 GBE (laughably bad compared to even the release candidates that came before it), one time I pressed the power button to wake the phone, and it didn't wake (I have a case that makes it so you have to push a little harder), so I pressed it again and it did. I then slid to unlock, but instead of that happening, the phone shut off. It was so laggy that it actually did detect the first power button press, and the second one I held slightly too long (which brings up the reboot/poweroff/silent/etc dialog) and when I thought I was sliding to unlock, the phone registered it as pressing the power off option on the popup dialog that hadn't yet appeared when I was trying to unlock the phone. Phone powers off. I tried to unlock my phone and instead got a powered off device.
That's ****ing unacceptable. It's 2011, we should have devices that are responsive and stable. But instead, we get a holocaust. This isn't my fault. This isn't kalibar's fault. It's Samsung's fault. We thought we could count on them to make something with perhaps not the best experience, but a passable one at least. And we weren't just a little wrong, we were really wrong.
If you honestly believe this phone is good, you've never used an iPhone. I'm not trying to start an Android vs iOS argument, but when it comes to having a phone with reliable battery life and a consistently responsive user experience, the iPhone never fails. And although I've heard the 4S has ****ty battery life at the moment, there is no doubt in my mind that it will actually get fixed because Apple actually gives a ****. In a year when you can run AOSP ROMs on this phone, I would bet money that the official offering from Samsung remains an abortion.
Anyone who claims to have no issues with this phone is either a liar, or a good majority of Droid Charges are lemons. Either does not bode well.
And stop called the Fascinate, "Fassy." It immediately reveals that you're a neckbeard virgin.
p.s. The Gummy team left XDA not because people complain about the shortcomings of devices but because people do things like irrationally defend utter crap and spout cringe-inducingly stupid nonsense.
@jhonas, The phone is fairly new and the bugs will be worked out, I have complete faith in our developers.
Someone is an internet tough guy...
The Gummy Team left XDA from people like you just constantly whining about EVERYTHING. I don't have any problems with this phone beyond the battery life. That's it.
It's not like some of us defend our phones just for the hell of it...it's because we know this can be potentially a great phone. Things can take time. Look at how the FASSY (you mad?) was at the very beginning - everyone hated it. Now that it's a mature phone, it can be appreciated. Development for this device is in its infancy-unfortunately some people can't or won't see that and insist on bashing it.
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Since when was usability a toy? Maybe it's his fault for buying a phone that doesn't have CM7, but it's not his fault the phone's stock firmware is garbage. Why are you all apologists for this device? Is it because you bought it? Do you guys go around, telling people how your phone is the best phone no matter what, all because you paid money for it and to do otherwise would make you feel stupid?
Just be honest. The phone kinda sucks. It'd be one thing if the battery life was just bad, but the fact that it varies from day to day is like having a car that gets 25mpg on some days and 12mpg on others. It's one thing to tolerate mediocrity, but to defend it is absolutely despicable. You all should be ashamed.
Multiple times, across multiple firmwares (humble, gummy, fe and gbe, infinity beta w/ ep3ha) I've had the phone lag at inappropriate times that resulted in committing an action that I absolutely did not want.
For example, and I think this was on Gummy 2.0 GBE (laughably bad compared to even the release candidates that came before it), one time I pressed the power button to wake the phone, and it didn't wake (I have a case that makes it so you have to push a little harder), so I pressed it again and it did. I then slid to unlock, but instead of that happening, the phone shut off. It was so laggy that it actually did detect the first power button press, and the second one I held slightly too long (which brings up the reboot/poweroff/silent/etc dialog) and when I thought I was sliding to unlock, the phone registered it as pressing the power off option on the popup dialog that hadn't yet appeared when I was trying to unlock the phone. Phone powers off. I tried to unlock my phone and instead got a powered off device.
That's ****ing unacceptable. It's 2011, we should have devices that are responsive and stable. But instead, we get a holocaust. This isn't my fault. This isn't kalibar's fault. It's Samsung's fault. We thought we could count on them to make something with perhaps not the best experience, but a passable one at least. And we weren't just a little wrong, we were really wrong.
If you honestly believe this phone is good, you've never used an iPhone. I'm not trying to start an Android vs iOS argument, but when it comes to having a phone with reliable battery life and a consistently responsive user experience, the iPhone never fails. And although I've heard the 4S has ****ty battery life at the moment, there is no doubt in my mind that it will actually get fixed because Apple actually gives a ****. In a year when you can run AOSP ROMs on this phone, I would bet money that the official offering from Samsung remains an abortion.
Anyone who claims to have no issues with this phone is either a liar, or a good majority of Droid Charges are lemons. Either does not bode well.
And stop called the Fascinate, "Fassy." It immediately reveals that you're a neckbeard virgin.
p.s. The Gummy team left XDA not because people complain about the shortcomings of devices but because people do things like irrationally defend utter crap and spout cringe-inducingly stupid nonsense.
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First off, there are plenty of decaffeinated brands on the market that taste just as good as the real thing, think about it.
I don't believe fivecent was referring to usability as a toy. He was referring to CM7 as a toy. It didn't come pre-installed on the phone - it's an extra or a "toy." It is well known Samsung is notorious for great hardware and crappy software. If you and kalibar have been around on Android at all, you should have already known this. And if you didn't do enough research to find this out, shame on both of you. Albert Einstein said insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. In this case expecting Samsung to suddenly put out a phone with great software given their track record, I would call naive.
Apple isn't better at fixing things because they care more, it's because they only have on phone to work on. All other phone manufacturers prefer to offer customers options and choices. Apple tells it's sheeple (customers) this is what we make, you will buy it and like it.
The Charge was only the third LTE phone on Verizon. Like davwaman said, there are still bugs and they will be worked out. Verizon and all phone manufacturers are encountering occasional problems related to 4G LTE. No 4G LTE phone has a functional CM7 because of the 4G radios/RIL.
And TeamGummy and several other developers didn't leave XDA for either your reason or the other reason stated. It's not my place to say why they left. You can ask them yourself, which you obviously haven't done based on your post.
And finally, you've been a member here since 2007 and this rant is your first post? Really? Not one productive or helpful post before now?
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Since when was usability a toy? Maybe it's his fault for buying a phone that doesn't have CM7, but it's not his fault the phone's stock firmware is garbage. Why are you all apologists for this device? Is it because you bought it? Do you guys go around, telling people how your phone is the best phone no matter what, all because you paid money for it and to do otherwise would make you feel stupid?
Just be honest. The phone kinda sucks. It'd be one thing if the battery life was just bad, but the fact that it varies from day to day is like having a car that gets 25mpg on some days and 12mpg on others. It's one thing to tolerate mediocrity, but to defend it is absolutely despicable. You all should be ashamed.
Multiple times, across multiple firmwares (humble, gummy, fe and gbe, infinity beta w/ ep3ha) I've had the phone lag at inappropriate times that resulted in committing an action that I absolutely did not want.
For example, and I think this was on Gummy 2.0 GBE (laughably bad compared to even the release candidates that came before it), one time I pressed the power button to wake the phone, and it didn't wake (I have a case that makes it so you have to push a little harder), so I pressed it again and it did. I then slid to unlock, but instead of that happening, the phone shut off. It was so laggy that it actually did detect the first power button press, and the second one I held slightly too long (which brings up the reboot/poweroff/silent/etc dialog) and when I thought I was sliding to unlock, the phone registered it as pressing the power off option on the popup dialog that hadn't yet appeared when I was trying to unlock the phone. Phone powers off. I tried to unlock my phone and instead got a powered off device.
That's ****ing unacceptable. It's 2011, we should have devices that are responsive and stable. But instead, we get a holocaust. This isn't my fault. This isn't kalibar's fault. It's Samsung's fault. We thought we could count on them to make something with perhaps not the best experience, but a passable one at least. And we weren't just a little wrong, we were really wrong.
If you honestly believe this phone is good, you've never used an iPhone. I'm not trying to start an Android vs iOS argument, but when it comes to having a phone with reliable battery life and a consistently responsive user experience, the iPhone never fails. And although I've heard the 4S has ****ty battery life at the moment, there is no doubt in my mind that it will actually get fixed because Apple actually gives a ****. In a year when you can run AOSP ROMs on this phone, I would bet money that the official offering from Samsung remains an abortion.
Anyone who claims to have no issues with this phone is either a liar, or a good majority of Droid Charges are lemons. Either does not bode well.
And stop called the Fascinate, "Fassy." It immediately reveals that you're a neckbeard virgin.
p.s. The Gummy team left XDA not because people complain about the shortcomings of devices but because people do things like irrationally defend utter crap and spout cringe-inducingly stupid nonsense.
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so much BUTTHURT lol
no but seriously I loved my FASSY and I love my Charge, sure they both have issues but are incredible phones none the less.. there are always problems and always will be as no phone is perfect, and this constant whining about how bad it is isn't helping anyone unless its an actual constructive question about how to fix something or why something's happening
Lufc or Scotsman where you at buddies, lock this thread up
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If you honestly believe this phone is good, you've never used an iPhone. I'm not trying to start an Android vs iOS argument, but when it comes to having a phone with reliable battery life and a consistently responsive user experience, the iPhone never fails. And although I've heard the 4S has ****ty battery life at the moment, there is no doubt in my mind that it will actually get fixed because Apple actually gives a ****. In a year when you can run AOSP ROMs on this phone, I would bet money that the official offering from Samsung remains an abortion.
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Chopping the rest because this is all I'm going to respond to. I came to this phone from an iPhone. You couldn't pay me to go back.
That is all.
I don't understand how this thread is still going on. We have a parade of "blame the OP" for daring to purchase the flagship Samsung Verizon phone and expecting it to actually work, then people pretending like a battery that goes 12 hours, barely, if you micro it, is perfectly acceptable, then we have people blaming other posters for not making enough nice posts before a rant?
Seriously, what the hell? The phone seems pretty crappy from all the reviews and I don't think that the OP was asking for people to leap in and white-knight it, I'm pretty sure he wanted opinions on things he would miss or whatever if he downgraded to a Fascinate.
(Honestly, "Fassy"? Makes you sound like you're 5.)
Hey all,
I've got a rather funky bug going on here. I'm told it's not uncommon for G2x phones to suddenly turn off and require users to take out the battery for a reboot. But I recently ran into a super weird issue.
Tried to use my phone, encountered a black screen. Tried to turn it on, even took out battery and placed it back in with no luck. Went home and plugged it into adapter, got a screen showing the battery charging but that's it. With the battery out, pressed the boot screen, got the white LG logo before it turned off again.
Problem was solved as soon as I plugged the phone into my notebook instead. Booted up normally with no problems!
Is this a common occurrence?
If this problem persists, I might have to sell this phone (bought it on fleabay) and get a different one. Dang LG really rushed the G2x in spite of flaws!
If that happens, I'll be needing recommendations for a new phone.
I don't think this issue is common, this is my 1st time reading about it, and it certainly hasn't happened to me! good luck, if you're changing phones I'd suggest the galaxy Nexus
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I don't think this issue is common, this is my 1st time reading about it, and it certainly hasn't happened to me! good luck, if you're changing phones I'd suggest the galaxy Nexus
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GSN is too expensive for me. Was hoping for under $300.
Was contemplating the G4SG, but I hear that while having fewer bugs, it's also a lot slower overall. I can't live without my cheap dualcore!
That's an odd one, a couple of things I will say:
I've noticed that for me if I have it plugged in and powered down then try to boot it, the thing won't start. I have to unplug it, boot it and plug it back in once it's started up initially.
Also, if you're considering loading a custom ROM, do it and if the thing is still acting like that, throw it at the nearest T-mobile store, and be sure to hit someone with it.
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That's an odd one, a couple of things I will say:
I've noticed that for me if I have it plugged in and powered down then try to boot it, the thing won't start. I have to unplug it, boot it and plug it back in once it's started up initially.
Also, if you're considering loading a custom ROM, do it and if the thing is still acting like that, throw it at the nearest T-mobile store, and be sure to hit someone with it.
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It was rooted with Tsugi. I haven't had any other issues yet. Rooted/flashed it yesterday, this is the 2nd day in.
And I don't have a receipt for the phone. Bought it used from another person. :/
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It was rooted with Tsugi. I haven't had any other issues yet. Rooted/flashed it yesterday, this is the 2nd day in.
And I don't have a receipt for the phone. Bought it used from another person. :/
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Try a different ROM, didn't you buy it off E-bay? If nothing else, either e-bay or paypal (assuming you used it) should cover you if you were given a lemon.
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Try a different ROM, didn't you buy it off E-bay? If nothing else, either e-bay or paypal (assuming you used it) should cover you if you were given a lemon.
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I'll see what happens. If the phone turns out to be a lemon, I'm going to request a refund and go the paypal dispute route if I must. I'd rather not have to.
It's a real shame too. This is a really nice phone.
Flash phoenixblood 1.7 rom and use faux123 stock cm or DS. 0.4.8 kernel, I can almost 100% guarantee you that will solve your problem.
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something similar happens to me never tried the rom your on but what i did to fix was: Settings>Applications>Development> check stay awake it helped me out maybe it will help you. let me know how everything goes.
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GSN is too expensive for me. Was hoping for under $300.
Was contemplating the G4SG, but I hear that while having fewer bugs, it's also a lot slower overall. I can't live without my cheap dualcore!
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I actually just sold my g2x and went back to my GS4G and don't regret it. Running octane 3.0 the speed difference is so negligible you won't even notice it unless your comparing them side by side.
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If it happens again then sell it, the only thing that makes this phone unable to compete with the Galaxy Nexus is that it doesn't have ICS yet, and the screen is smaller and in lower resolution. But I believe if you get a good one then performance is better than the Gnex seeing as the highest clock speed I've seen achievable and stable for the Gnex is 1.35, and the GPU is slow and outdated. The camera on the G2x is also higher resolution, but lacks the lagless shutter.
This phone may be cheap, but it is very powerful. The only reason it had so many complaints is poor quality control, and very bad software developers. Hardware is crazy though.
If you were to sell your G2x, I'd take the Galaxy S II HD version over the Gnex.
I'm still in love with Skyrocket, but some developers and mantainers stop making new buils because feels like there are just a few Skyrocket users out there.
I think it's just because some of us are waiting for a more stable Lollipop release and better compatibility of xposed. But believe me, Skyrocket only needs a little push, and this is the time; I found a repartition thread for Hercules and same method works for Skyrocket, it means less space limitations and more juice to pull out of Skyrocket.
What do you guys think?
I still have the phone but even with a new battery I don't get much life out of it. Especially compared to my HTC One M7. I still have a real fondness for the Skyrocket. I'm running lollipop on it via the Candy ROM and it runs pretty good . In fact I think it runs much better than it ever did compared to when I had it on stock touchwiz.
I see by looking at file host download counts that over 400 downloads for Lollipop.
So a lot still using,I know some may be repeat downloads where they have gotten bad dl's,but still plenty. Just don't know how many developer's are still rocking the skyrocket.
Hope they keep up the builds there doing now . Lollipop is making my SR faster and longer life on battery.
Just bought one to use as a media streamer for summer.
Mine still get use as Ambio / music players. They are incredible devices, and amazingly enough, still reasonable performers. Not flag-ship worthy anymore, but remarkably close to the middle of the pack for mid-grade devices, and much faster than the low-end crap.
If Samsung hadn't gone nuts on locking (and encrypting) the bootloader for AT&T models, I'd still buy their hardware.
yap my beloved skyrocket is still with me as my daily drive
starting to have some problems with it but not something that a 15$ part cant fix
My husband bought me the LG Optimus G (AT&T) as a gift. Ended up returning it.
I like both versions of the S2 (i727 & i777). My husband used the i727 before upgrading. Mine was the i777.
Parts are cheap and phone is way easy to repair. At the moment I am using the i727 because the i777 needs fixed.
I don't need all the bells and whistles of a fancy phone. I have an S5 but its used by the kids.
Still have my skyrocket. I'm running cm11 but really want a stable lollipop rom. But my phone is about dead. it is so slow and laggy i cant figure out how to fix it. ive switched roms and it still remains frustrating slow.
I got my i727 back in 2012, and it's a great phone. My problem is finding a stable AND secure rom (meaning, consistent updates). My favorite for a while was Slim Roms' "Slim Kat"... but they haven't updated it in over a year I believe. I did find a way to increase app space by partitioning using a custom PIT file (someone shared how on these forums). I would be happy to hear rom suggestions, as I am using T-Mobile in the US currently.
Skyrocket going strong still, even after 3 years.
I bought my skyrocket 3 years ago and I still use it with Stock AT&T touchwiz ROM. Battery is new and gives me half a day backup. I love it and the old 4.1.2 interface seems refreshing after seeing tons of lollipop phones with similarly decked out homescreens and notification bars. The big font, the big icons and the bright colours on this phone (Especially with the AMOLED screen) still feel awesome.
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I still use it with Stock AT&T touchwiz ROM...
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That sounds nice! What service provider do you use? I am currently using T-Mobile, so I had to use a different radio to get it working better. Do you happen to know what radio that stock rom comes with, and if it might work for T-mobile? My phone is seriously throwing a fit right now so I gotta get a new rom on there soon.
*Edit* I just used Odin to return my i727 to stock AT&T rom (ATT JB 4.1.2 I727UCMC1 ..) which can be found here on Vincom's sticky under "
3: STOCK FIRMWARES: ODIN FLASHABLE - FULL/COMPLETE/ STOCK", and it seems to run fine as I use my T-Mobile sim card! Running very smoothly right now. Before the AT&T stock rom was updated (back when I got my phone in 2012), I do not recall it even using the signal correctly when I inserted the T-Mobile sim card, so I opted to use custom roms with short-term joy and a lot of pain and suffering in the long-run. Will let you guys know updates as I continue to use it, because long term is the real test of how a rom handles!
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What service provider do you use? Do you happen to know what radio that stock rom comes with, and if it might work for T-mobile?
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I'm on Airtel in India. And the stock ROM comes with UCMC1 radio and it works pretty okay. The ROM is solid now that I've used it for 3 weeks now. There was one occurrence where the phone rebooted when the battery was low and when it came back on it had factory reset itself (That was a pain to bring back everything update). Other than that ROM has been solid.
As far as signal and data is considered, what I found out which worked better is when I installed xposed framework and installed a mod called Intelli3G. If I change the network mode to WCDMA via UltraCfg I used to get 1 bar signal. But when I used to switch network mode via Intelli3G I get 2-3 bars. I don't know why it is like that, but it works.
Why would anyone still be using this phone? It was a piece of crap. Literally the worst purchase decision I have made in my entire life. Nothing but problems.
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Why would anyone still be using this phone? It was a piece of crap. Literally the worst purchase decision I have made in my entire life. Nothing but problems.
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ymmv but for me it has never failed me in over 3 yrs since ive had it, its still my dd, flashed a ton of roms and apps and still using the original battery.
best purchase ive made
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ymmv but for me it has never failed me in over 3 yrs since ive had it, its still my dd, flashed a ton of roms and apps and still using the original battery.
best purchase ive made
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Still using the original battery after three years? My battery life wasn't very good even when new and was awful after like 6 months getting like 1.5 hours screen on time with like 8 or 9 hours off the charger.
I could see it being a little better with custom ROMs since you wouldn't have to deal with the pathetic TouchWiz but not much and I didn't want to void my warranty and insurance by installing custom ROMs. After the first update it was so slow(even after a factory reset) I missed half my calls because the phone was so slow that the call had went to voicemail before it had registered my swipe to answer.
The build quality sucked too. The phone was creaky and had several gaps between parts. The back cover didn't sit flush with the back of the phone even after replacing the back cover which I did 3 or 4 times during the two years I used the phone because of how easily it scratched and worn out.
It also had issues every few months were it would get stuck in boot loops.
After using that piece of crap for two years I vowed to never get another Samsung phone unless serious changes were made by Samsung.
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Still using the original battery after three years? My battery life wasn't very good even when new and was awful after like 6 months getting like 1.5 hours screen on time with like 8 or 9 hours off the charger.
I could see it being a little better with custom ROMs since you wouldn't have to deal with the pathetic TouchWiz but not much and I didn't want to void my warranty and insurance by installing custom ROMs. After the first update it was so slow(even after a factory reset) I missed half my calls because the phone was so slow that the call had went to voicemail before it had registered my swipe to answer.
The build quality sucked too. The phone was creaky and had several gaps between parts. The back cover didn't sit flush with the back of the phone even after replacing the back cover which I did 3 or 4 times during the two years I used the phone because of how easily it scratched and worn out.
It also had issues every few months were it would get stuck in boot loops.
After using that piece of crap for two years I vowed to never get another Samsung phone unless serious changes were made by Samsung.
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I have two - my wife and I bought them the same day - and the only issue I have had so far is the power button on the black one going out after 2.5 years. (One of the solder techs at my work replaced it for me.) Otherwise, both have been fantastic devices. They don't creak, the backs go on perfectly, and they still function quite well - even if they are fairly slow compared to my M8. Even the TouchWiz poo that shipped on them was functional - I just prefer CM.
I think you got a lemon.
even though i got mine new i also bought 2 used ones for family members, all 3 are still working great