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[Q] Reboot Bug - Is it really so prominent?

I keep hearing about this unfixed Nexus S reboot bug. I'm curious... is it really so widespread? Or is it only something a few people experience, like the luck of the draw?
I apologize if this question has been asked before. I'm considering buying the phone but can't decide if I should wait.

It always seems to pop up in the forums but it has never happened to me. I've had mine for almost a month now and it all seems to be perfect. No defects with screens or buttons or reboots. Maybe im just lucky...or people with complaints are just louder than ones who are satisfied.

The issue is real and Google have confirmed it. They've been working on a fix and the official word was an OTA update was going to be released this week:
Just a heads up that our initial tests look good and that we are expecting to send out an OTA within one to two weeks that will resolve the issue. Thanks for your continued patience!
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silfer said:
It always seems to pop up in the forums but it has never happened to me. I've had mine for almost a month now and it all seems to be perfect. No defects with screens or buttons or reboots. Maybe im just lucky...or people with complaints are just louder than ones who are satisfied.
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Argh. I did not have this problem until yesterday (had the phone since January). Now my phone will reboot right after a call.

apreichner said:
I keep hearing about this unfixed Nexus S reboot bug. I'm curious... is it really so widespread? Or is it only something a few people experience, like the luck of the draw?
I apologize if this question has been asked before. I'm considering buying the phone but can't decide if I should wait.
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I've had three Nexus S so far. The first one I picked up on dec 16th and didn't get a single reboot on - but the oleophobic coating on the screen was coming off in spots so I swapped it for another unit.
The second unit had issues rebooting. I saw it immediately - it rebooted while sitting on my desk. I could constantly recreate this by streaming audio over BT in my car - every 10-15 minutes it would reboot.
I picked up a mt4g for a few weeks to see if they could sort whether this was a hardware of sw issue (that thing is a brick to hold) and eventually picked up a third Nexus S once they identified it as a SW issue. This device has not rebooted a single time in the 27 days I've had it. I can stream audio and make long calls without an issue.
All three devices have operated with identical configurations. Based on this I'd say that some units are worse than others.
Maybe it's issue with the hardware tolerances and some hardware that falls within the accepted tolerance is not operating as expected and causing kernel panics as a result. This would explain why some have this issue constantly and others rarely or never see it. Perhaps it's something seemingly unrelated that everyone experiencing the reboots has in common. It would be nice if Google weren't so tight lipped about this. Supposedly the OTA will address these issues and moving forward it should be irrelevant.

I get this issue at least 60% of my calls (not that i call much). i have made 4 calls today, and 3 of them my phone rebooted during the proccess.
I am returning this to CW tommorrow for a replacment unit, i love the phone dearly but do not want to be robbed for £429 but not being able to take it back if they do not resolve.
It could be a batch issue, or something i guess, but that's not my job to find that out, that's for the people i paid for the hardware/software
I hope i get another unit, and if not problem free at least i can rely on a warranty, hopefully making sure if google slack on fixing this i can get my money back.
If it fixes soon or the new handsets ok, i can keep this lil beauty of a phone

I've had my SNS since launch. My phones has rebooted on me twice. It was right after playing a 3D game. Right after i exited the game the phone rebooted. Funny though, it hasn't happened again.

I've gone back to using my Desire until Google sort this out. For me, any call above 5 minutes has a 50% chance of rebooting the handset.
The handset (running stock 2.3.2 and un-rooted) will on occasion spontaneously reboot as well. Not good.

It is a bug that seems to be very limited in scope but is very serious for those affected. Personally, I've never had it happen to me or my wife.

Thank you for your replies, they were very helpful. I was keeping up with the OTA Bugfix promised by Google for the Nexus S. Although, that was promised almost 3 weeks ago and still no word from Google since. That's one of the reasons why I came here to ask for advice before I bought the phone. Although I'm curious to see if 2.3.3 resolved the issue. I know the 2.3.3 just lists API changed, but I wouldn't expect them to list bugfixes on a list of API changes.
I think I'm ready to buy the phone and hope for the best. I'll probably just get Best Buy insurance just to be safe.

apreichner said:
Thank you for your replies, they were very helpful. I was keeping up with the OTA Bugfix promised by Google for the Nexus S. Although, that was promised almost 3 weeks ago and still no word from Google since. That's one of the reasons why I came here to ask for advice before I bought the phone. Although I'm curious to see if 2.3.3 resolved the issue. I know the 2.3.3 just lists API changed, but I wouldn't expect them to list bugfixes on a list of API changes.
I think I'm ready to buy the phone and hope for the best. I'll probably just get Best Buy insurance just to be safe.
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Getting the insurance is definitely the right choice. I hope you enjoy your phone and your stay here!

I get periodic reboots on both my phones.
It is not that noticeable, since it often happens when I am not using the phone and unless I glance at it and see the start animation, I may be unaware of it.
But it has happened during a call as well (couple of times on each phone) and then it is definitely noticeable.

I have this bug... not during phone calls but random reboots. 2-3 a day. I hate it but its tolerable.

Weird, I don't have this bug

If flashing a custom rom, the problem will be solved? Since i am considering if i should get Nexus s later on.
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[Q] Whats the problem?

I see people on the forums posting all these issues . I never had any . I use my g2x everyday for school . The battery life is pretty good too i was able to get 70% still even through usage in school. I 1st had a nexus one it was a great phone but it had little memory for apps even when i had a sd card . I personally think the g2x is a great phone. It has plenty of memory space the screen isn't that bad compared to some devices. Although it didn't come with a sd card or earphones which is pretty bootleg to me but i have the phone and its great. So whats up with all these problems?

Mines perfect too but it is the 4th one. It's a shame it takes 3 returns to get a perfect phone.

riceaznboi said:
I see people on the forums posting all these issues . I never had any . I use my g2x everyday for school . The battery life is pretty good too i was able to get 70% still even through usage in school. I 1st had a nexus one it was a great phone but it had little memory for apps even when i had a sd card . I personally think the g2x is a great phone. It has plenty of memory space the screen isn't that bad compared to some devices. Although it didn't come with a sd card or earphones which is pretty bootleg to me but i have the phone and its great. So whats up with all these problems?
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Well, obviously some people have genuine issues, but more than anything it's new phone syndrome. Everyone is looking over their phones, testing them, playing with them. Realistically, if you stare at anything long enough, you can find a flaw, and when someone points a minor, barely noticeable flaw they discovered on their phone out to someone else, they either see the same flaw and freak out about it too, or imagine it.

MWBehr said:
Well, obviously some people have genuine issues, but more than anything it's new phone syndrome. Everyone is looking over their phones, testing them, playing with them. Realistically, if you stare at anything long enough, you can find a flaw, and when someone points a minor, barely noticeable flaw they discovered on their phone out to someone else, they either see the same flaw and freak out about it too, or imagine it.
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While I do agree with what you stated I know in my case it is not just cosmetics it is a phone that is not functional and erratic. I am to receive a third one hopefully by Thursday. So far the first was unacceptable and the second was absolutely unusable. It is a shame as I really do like a lot of things about this phone.

Well i guess it is pretty normal, but i really just don't understand why you would point out a problem of your new phone that you paid your hard earned money for.

riceaznboi said:
Well i guess it is pretty normal, but i really just don't understand why you would point out a problem of your new phone that you paid your hard earned money for.
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So, if you bought a new car and it had issues you would just keep quiet?
I'm not trying to be an ass or anything, but what you just said makes no sense.
People are pointing out there issues to see if others are having the same problem and possibly find a solution to the problem.
It also helps people who have not yet bought the phone to see what kind of issues it is having to determine if they still want to get it or wait until they are resolved.

8 Hours in after a 100% with at least 3 or so plus hours now with Blue tooth on and sitting at 35% now listening to music still and going to try and kill it before I'm off at 9. Let alone im twittering and using the 4g net to look at some things from twitter.

I'm not saying to keep quiet or anything but i see a ton of problems and yet i have no issues what so ever.

I just exchanged for the 2nd time today, and I am now on my 3rd g2x. The first one had light bleeding, and rebooted over 10 time the first day.
2nd one had the light bleed on a black screen, and a brown stain across the bottom of the screen when on a white background, and 3 dead pixels. The brown stain was very noticable, and anyone I showed the phone said something before I pointed it out. Worst, the gps couldn't lock my location to save its life. One day I kept trying for 40 minutes and the g2x never locked the location, even after factory resets and several reboots. I had to get on WIFI to make it work. Today it would find a location, but it was almost a mile away from me. It continued doing this throughout the day as I went to other locations. So I returned it.
Just opened up my 3rd one. I'm told they just got a new shipment today, and it's out of that shipment. My hopes are high! I turn on the phone, I tell myself this is the one. This one is going to have a display that doesn't bleed. Wouldn't you know i'm greeted to backlight bleed. But this one is worst than the pictures on the forums, and by far worst than the first 2 phones.
I'm beside myself. The phone runs so smooth, and I really want a dual core stock android phone. But between the reboots, the bleeding screen, the dead pixels, the gps that doesn't work, I think it's time to throw in the hat.
I'm trying one more time, but this time i'm going to pay the restock fee, and go to a different store. If this one is bunk, that's it, i'm done. I'm waiting for the next "super phone". I read a lot about the nexus one having major issues when I got it (ordered the day it came out), but I never had any. Maybe this is just a luck of the draw thing, and i'm exceptionally unlucky this time. But it seems a lot of other people on these forums are having the same issues.

Not a single issue for me..perfect coming from a vibrant..

I'm having a problem with the external sd card on my phone. Its locked up, not locked, like password, but locked as in it says its a read only filesystem, and no matter what I do I can't edit the files or the permissions. can some one please give me some ideas on what I can do?

Im ecstatic that I finally made the switch to Tmo last week, just for this phone. Ive been with ATT, and their Android lineup, which imo, Captivate is the only one worth hanging on to.
Ive been watching Tmo for the last 3 years get the G1, N1, Nexus S, and now the G2x. Had enuff, and left ATT last week. Got out of one ETF, but still ended up with $345 ETFs on other 2 lines. And I dont regret it one bit so far. Even went on a Craigslist selling spree of all my ATT Androids except my Cappy (loved that phone).
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No issues here ... on my 4th g2x though.
I agree that some people are just nit picking their phone, but that's ok - they spent a lot of hard-earned cash on this phone and they should get one that acceptable to them.
My first 3 had major issues:
1st one had the brown "stain" across the bottom of the screen and along the entire right side.
2nd one had reception, wifi and data connectivity issues.
3rd one started FC ing every time I touched the Android to set up the phone and if I skipped initial setup so I could connect to wifi. If I did get it set up, then it was just wonky - random reboots, lockups that required a battery pull, a couple of factory resets because I got stuck in the "checking system" bootloop. !Oy vey!
My 4th g2x is acceptable. Minor lcd bleeding, but I only notice it on the splash screen and the boot and power off animations. Can't see it when playing games or watching a movie in a dark room, so I'm ok with it.
As someone said earlier, its a shame it takes so many "attempts" to get an acceptable phone. But, to T-Mo's credit, at least they are doing what they can to make it right. They've been good to me about the exchanges and never really hassled me about any of them.

Mine is fine.
LCD backlight breeding is minimal and it's not enough to bother me, but ogg vorbis tag problem is more important.

Minimal backlight bleeding. Everything else is great.

Mines fine. One reset once... hasn't happened again and its been quite a while... love this phone
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hardware or software
After all ur exchanges, did u get a feeling that this might be an hardware issue? (I know lcd bleeding is but.. all the other issues). Then i think it is ideal to wait out for an update from t mo or google or some custom dev for fixing all these issues right? I know when u have an option to switch , we go for it but just chkng if it is becaus of hardware that we are bound to do that...

riceaznboi said:
I see people on the forums posting all these issues . I never had any . I use my g2x everyday for school . The battery life is pretty good too i was able to get 70% still even through usage in school. I 1st had a nexus one it was a great phone but it had little memory for apps even when i had a sd card . I personally think the g2x is a great phone.
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I completely agree I love this phone
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the screen isn't that bad compared to some devices.
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I personally think that the screen is great, my girlfriend has the Samsung Droid Charge and although its a bit sharper I think the display on the G2x is nicer than that AMOLED on the Samsung Droid Charge.

Constant Reboots and Glitches Making Me Crazy!!!!

I am loving this phone, but these issues are killing me! Anyone else thinking of keeping this thing until the Sensation comes out, and then swapping it out? I bought my G2X on May 8th, so I am hoping to refund and get the Sensation as long as that's the release date. LG really needs to fix this or I think a lot of us will be kicking this thing to the curb.

have you not yet heard that a patch is on the way? I'm thinging no...

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have you not yet heard that a patch is on the way? I'm thinging no...
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I'm not too sure about that. I literally just called LG Electronics after I posted this thread and they told me that this is not a "known issue" with this device. OMG really??? I asked the Rep to Google it herself, and she will see 1000's of complaints from consumers, she told me LG doesn't pay attention to blogs???? So how is a patch coming if they are denying there is even an issue? Call for yourself 800-243-0000. They kept telling me that I must have dropped it or submersed it in liquid. TERRIBLE customer service!!! I most likely will be returning this thing today. I am a man with a sour taste in my mouth now.

Exchange it until u get the sensation, this is my 3rd phone with the same problem.
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the fix is coming. every phone launches with bugs. don't believe it? return your phone.
didn't you really need to start 2 threads about this?

Flash CM7. No reboots at all.
I didn't have reboots running stock 2.2 but try CM7. If you still have reboots on a rom that is not based on LG's build, then you have a faulty phone. If CM7 fixes your reboots, then you know it is just buggy software.

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Flash CM7. No reboots at all.
I didn't have reboots running stock 2.2 but try CM7. If you still have reboots on a rom that is not based on LG's build, then you have a faulty phone. If CM7 fixes your reboots, then you know it is just buggy software.
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+1...logic. I am ashamed that didn't cross my mind.
I haven't had problems (aside from one reboot two weeks ago) so, the problem isn't universal. I would trade it in until I got a stable one...IDK.

Just something that i have observed in the past few days... I have recently come back to toledo ohio from phoenix arizona... the major difference between these two places is that in tempe specifically, I had 4g nonstop and everywhere i went whether it was way out in gilbert, north phoenix or out in goodyear, however back home here, I live on the outer fringes of sylvania and my signal is horrible and it was the same crap on my nexus one... I am happy with 2g but typically it is GPRS or just no signal at all, thank god for wifi-calling!
Ok so back in AZ, I never had any reboot problems or battery pulls after charging... I bought the phone on the 20th of april and I think i had 1 reboot and 1 battery pool within the first 24 hours of having the phone, no big in my opinion... Since I have been back wednesday night i have had 4 random reboots and just this morning I had to pull my battery. Strange thing was when i put it back in the battery was at 89%... my battery monitor says it was fully charged then there was a sudden drop, so i charged it back up again....
I am wondering if my changed cell signal and strength has caused these issues... if you are having reboot problems what is your cell signal like on a consistent basis?
I have been running on EB1.0.2 since I has been out

I just posted how to fix the reboot problems. Tested!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13770645&postcount=13
That would be a good test. Someone having reboot problems to put the phone in 2G only and give it a few days.
I travel for work and never had any problems outside of using the leaked Gingerbread build. I suspect the Kernel is the issue and something in the software is causing the reboots. Since the leaked gingerbread didn't come with a kernel, it only worsened the problem.
Anyway, give my method a shot and see if the problems still exist.

player911 said:
I just posted how to fix the reboot problems. Tested!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13770645&postcount=13
That would be a good test. Someone having reboot problems to put the phone in 2G only and give it a few days.
I travel for work and never had any problems outside of using the leaked Gingerbread build. I suspect the Kernel is the issue and something in the software is causing the reboots. Since the leaked gingerbread didn't come with a kernel, it only worsened the problem.
Anyway, give my method a shot and see if the problems still exist.
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Nice! Will give it a try now. Thanks!

Even with CM7 I was getting the constant reboots and freezes on two different phones, both of which have been returned.
I tried to like the phone as hard as I could - but those problems were a definite deal breaker.
If they can get them resolved, I may go the G2x route again but I fear the problem is more due to lack of quality control than just a software glitch.

Straight from the LG Forum Site:
Posted by Wwax on 06 May 2011 10:36 AM:
First time i saw LG's official statment was on 19 of April.. Sooo ANYONE got the "FIX" yet?
"LG is aware that certain Optimus 2X customers are occasionally experiencing random device shut-offs. The Nordics have been one of the first markets to sell Optimus 2X and we have sold a substantial amount of units. The return percentage is low and within the error marginal, so this issue only affect a limited number of customer. However, LG regrets the inconvenience this has caused.
We have determined the cause of the problem and have developed a software update to remedy this. The update is currently being rolled out in partnership with carriers. Dates of update availability will be determined by individual carriers. LG is committed to providing quality devices and is working hard to ensure that users have a consistent and convenient smartphone experience. Again, our apologies for the inconvenience."
Posted by LG Product Pro on 06 May 2011 12:56 AM:
I can't speak for the Optimus 2x since it's an international release and I only deal with the US phones released in the states.... But the G2x update should be just around the corner, from what I have heard.

SoFaKiNgStOkeD said:
I am loving this phone, but these issues are killing me! Anyone else thinking of keeping this thing until the Sensation comes out, and then swapping it out? I bought my G2X on May 8th, so I am hoping to refund and get the Sensation as long as that's the release date. LG really needs to fix this or I think a lot of us will be kicking this thing to the curb.
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My first G2x had no reboot problems, no battery problems, etc. Only issue was bad backlight bleed. Exchanged and 2nd phone had almost zero backlight bleed, but gets warm pretty quick compared to the first one, self reboots at least twice a day, bluetooth to my car now only works sporadically, wifi disconnects itself after screen shuts off, etc.
Third phone sent was the worst of the three. I'm keeping the 2nd one a day before my remorse period is up and doing a full refund which is 5/29. Waiting to see what Sammy will announce on 5/24 as far any US release announcements.

I've had zero reboots on mine, still on stock froyo but rooted and bloatware frozen. I've only had two freezes since I've got it but it was usually right after I installed some app and had it running along with a bunch of other ones. But the thing is I'm constantly killing tasks. After coming from Nokia N900 and symbian N8 seeing android constantly leaving tasks open with no exit option on every app drives me nuts.

SoFaKiNgStOkeD said:
I am loving this phone, but these issues are killing me! Anyone else thinking of keeping this thing until the Sensation comes out, and then swapping it out? I bought my G2X on May 8th, so I am hoping to refund and get the Sensation as long as that's the release date. LG really needs to fix this or I think a lot of us will be kicking this thing to the curb.
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My phone has stopped rebooting ever since I've disabled the GPS. It used to reboot randomly, however ever since I've disabled the GPS I have no issues. It is a software problem it will be fixed with software update. Give it a try-hopefully it will help you as well

This is my 3rd phone and they all reboot or freeze with gps, wifi disabled.
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Picked up my 3rd G2x yesterday - immediately flashed to Bionix, had no troubles... until...
I plugged it in to charge overnight.
I woke up this morning and it was hard frozen, hard to pull the battery.
Ok guys - I'm at a breaking point here. I've tried every ROM available. I've tried the phones with and without any 3rd party software being installed. I've tried them all without GPS, bluetooth or WIFI turned on...
I guess LG doesn't want us doing a simple task like .... charging the battery. And yes, I was charging using the OEM charger. And when I woke up and found it locked up the battery was not warm.
I picked up this 3rd G2x out of sheer impatience for the Sensation but it looks like this one is going back too. I simply can't take this anymore.

JWhipple said:
Picked up my 3rd G2x yesterday - immediately flashed to Bionix, had no troubles... until...
I plugged it in to charge overnight.
I woke up this morning and it was hard frozen, hard to pull the battery.
Ok guys - I'm at a breaking point here. I've tried every ROM available. I've tried the phones with and without any 3rd party software being installed. I've tried them all without GPS, bluetooth or WIFI turned on...
I guess LG doesn't want us doing a simple task like .... charging the battery. And yes, I was charging using the OEM charger. And when I woke up and found it locked up the battery was not warm.
I picked up this 3rd G2x out of sheer impatience for the Sensation but it looks like this one is going back too. I simply can't take this anymore.
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so weird to me. I've had 3 and never had a reboot issue... I love this phone..

smashpunks said:
so weird to me. I've had 3 and never had a reboot issue... I love this phone..
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Must be nice

I agree, when I bought the phone the t mobile Rep told me GPS would freeze it until its updated. Although I've had one black screen freeze and one reboot on the charger, but if you think about the o2x, having LG state that it has a problem unlocking from the button (freeze where you must take battery out), reboots on charger... means they must be able to fix this as well. Not too worried, especially when they told me that when I bought it. Mine did freeze without GPS on though
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My phone has stopped rebooting ever since I've disabled the GPS. It used to reboot randomly, however ever since I've disabled the GPS I have no issues. It is a software problem it will be fixed with software update. Give it a try-hopefully it will help you as well
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Has anyone ditched this turdburglar phone and gone back to a Fascinate?

I love the Droid Charge's hardware, I really do. Those first-gen Galaxy S PenTile AMOLED displays drove me nuts, LTE is the effing truth, and thankfully, the Wolfson DAC is just as killer as it was last time around -- I came from a Vibrant on T-Mobile.
As you can probably imagine, I'm loathe to give up LTE. And I've got incredible respect for the work that imnuts, imoseyon, the GummyCharged bros, and all the other developers here and at RW are putting into this phone to make it usable -- seriously, you guys are awesome. But the day-to-day with this phone is just wearing on me hard, and I really miss the serene world of stable CyanogenMod. These days, my battery will randomly choose days to die before I'm even home from work, the GPS chip doesn't seem any better than the Vibrant's was, the phone is noticeably less responsive than a CM7 device with similar internals, I still occaisionally get launcher redraws, and though it's improved considerably with EP3HA I still sometimes get data dropouts.
I know it's the same **** you guys all complain about, I guess I just wonder if anyone else has literally gotten so frustrated with it that they gave up the sweet nectar of LTE to get the hell away from this disaster of a software implementation. I joined the Galaxy S party late in the Vibrant's lifespan so I had a really positive experience thanks to all the great development people had done for it. I didn't really get the full flavor of "Samsung Disease" until this phone, and for chrissake, I can see why people were running the hate parade.
Has anyone else here gone back (or thought about going back) to an Ev-DO phone just for a better software experience? We can pretty much guarantee that the resale value of this phone is going to completely tank after the G-Nexus launches so I'm thinking it makes sense to get some cash out of it now. I literally won a clean ESN Fascinate auction on eBay last night for $81, so I'm psyched about that.
Incidentally I'll probably just buy another Charge for 81 dollars at this time next year after it's rocking official CM7. Then again, maybe the Galaxy Nexus will be cheap by then.
Thoughts?

Here's my thought: The grass is always greener. This is the Groundhog Day of phone forums.

If you want to go back to a 3G phone, how about you set your Charge to 3G only? That way it behaves the same as a Fascinate.

Cm7 is far from stable my friend. Try getting a nightly that doesn't play well with your kernal. Once you've bricked from this you will understand. In a year this will all be different. Phones are being released to developers first now to tweak them for the hard release. Think of it this way... The linux command for superuser, or "su" does not hurt the machine, but opens up commands to fine tune to the user's preferences. If we are given the base framework to recover to, there is no harm in supercharging the system, just so long as we can "reset" it in case of a system failure or resource exhaustion. Just wait until google buys MORE into samsung's development.
Speed rules...

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If you want to go back to a 3G phone, how about you set your Charge to 3G only? That way it behaves the same as a Fascinate.
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No kidding.. my thoughts exactly. This phone is without a doubt superior to the fascinate... then again, to each his own.
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As much as I love my rock solid stable fascinate tsm poolparty 1.5 with glitch v13 rc, Im moving on to the charge bought off funzy32. Why? because I got it for $185. I dont plan on having issues with the charge, because ive never had problems with any android device in three years which seems un-realistic, but Im sticking with my good luck reasoning. The charge in terms of development is still in its infancy. Hell, my first verizon device was an htc incredible and over a year later it is still being improved. I have absolute faith that the charge will be continually developed on. The fact is that it is not a low end device or a middle of the road device either. As many problems as the failure device known as the fascinate has. It currently has an Ics sdk port that from my understanding is pretty insane in its infancy. If the fascinate can make it, the charge will be doing the same.

I'd go back in a second! Sadly I had to send in my fassy to get this garbage.

I was thinking the same thing a couple days ago. I miss my fassy a lot, but it had its issues like calls never coming in or texts not going out. 4g is unbelievably fast...didn't expect it to be this fast, it trumps home internet like many have said.
The fassy was the better phone overall though no doubt. I regret getting the charge as a replacement. I don't have any issues with it but it just doesn't feel right.

You guys are quite the whiney lot.
OP, why don't you post what setup you were running so that maybe we could help diagnose your issues.
Obviously battery life on the Fascinate is going to be much better than on the Charge, with its larger screen and battery sucking LTE.
I've found the battery life to be tolerable on the Charge as long as I'm not doing anything ridiculous like streaming audio/video for long periods of time. I live outside of LTE service location so I have my phone set to CDMA only. As of right now, after a typical day of use (probably 30 texts, 30 minutes of Pandora streaming, 20 minutes of phone calls, and probably 3 solid hours of screen-on time while browsing) my battery has 40% charge after 7 hours and 20 minutes unplugged.
If your conscious about how you are using the battery it is pretty manageable. Turn off LTE when you don't need it. Turn off mobile data when you aren't using it. Switch onto a wifi signal when one is available. Turn off GPS when you're not using it. This is pretty common sense stuff.
As far as screen redraws, use V6 Supercharger. I used to be annoyed to no end because of redraws. Since loading the script, I've had maybe 4 redraws in about a month. I don't even notice it anymore.
Also, if you miss TSM, the latest GummyCharged has it. Just have to go over to Rootzwiki to get it, they don't care for xda anymore.

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You guys are quite the whiney lot.
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This. I'm tired of people bashing this phone. Sure, it has some issues, but if you're that fed up with is just get rid of the phone. No sense in continuously *****ing about it.
Sent from my Droid Charge running Infinity Beta

kvswim said:
This. I'm tired of people bashing this phone. Sure, it has some issues, but if you're that fed up with is just get rid of the phone. No sense in continuously *****ing about it.
Sent from my Droid Charge running Infinity Beta
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Agreed. I really don't even understand the gripes. I guess its just me, but I believe this is hands down the best smartphone I've ever owned. Sure, I miss CM7 a bit which I too had on my fassy, but as I've heard mentioned before, what can the fassy do that the Charge cannot? Unless I'm being an absolute phone hog, I can easily go 12 hours a day without turning ANYTHING off. I don't get screen redraws, static phone calls, data drop offs, or any of the other complaints. I occasionally have some minor Rom nuances but you get that with just about any Rom and Android phone. I'm seriously loving my Droid Charge experience! I don't get the whining or the constant threads on this topic. If you don't like it, you don't need our approval to move on. Just get rid of the phone and move on already!
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I thought I was pretty clear in my OP, but maybe not. I miss CyanogenMod. That is the main thing that I miss. The Charge doesn't have it. I guess I also miss having a small device, but that's not a fair complaint right now -- LTE radios are chunky, and I recognize that.
The battery life has been a really big sore spot for me, too. I've tried setting the phone to CDMA/Ev-DO only (completely ignoring the ridiculousness of carrying a larger, more expensive device and toggling off its best feature) to get a feel for what I'd be getting into speedwise if I switched to a Fascinate. I rarely use GPS, and leave it turned off.
It doesn't seem to have any effect on the battery; on Wednesday I ran it CDMA-only and barely used the device at all outside of an hour or so of PowerAmp playback and a handful of Google searches and GV messages. I took it off the charger with 100% juice at 7:15 AM, and it was dead by 6:30 PM. The maddening part is that it's crazy inconsistent: there are days where it makes it through the whole day with 30% or so left,even though I've had LTE turned on all day and have been using the phone fairly extensively. I definitely don't think it's a hardware problem -- Engadget swears they got two days in their review of this thing. The best guess I've been able to piece together is that the battery loss has something to do with with the phone's poor tower handoffs, because I've noticed a pattern of having a dead Charge on days where I move from place to place a lot. Days where my only destinations are home and work don't seem to exhibit the issue as much.
I suppose I'm past the point of being interested in solving it, and the device's limited community uptake (relative to something like the Nexus phones, or several of the more popular HTCs) doesn't help. That's the hugely exciting thing about the Galaxy Nexus -- we at least know it'll be crazy popular here, at Rootzwiki, and everywhere else. I just hope it's got a decent DAC and headphone amp, because otherwise the Fascinate and the Charge are still going to be my future.
Someone asked me to post my setup, so I guess I'll repeat myself. I'm running EP3HA debloated. I've tried it with the stock kernel and with imoseyon's kernel -- didn't notice major differences either way. Compared to its predecessors, EP3HA has been an incredible improvement -- I ran the gamut and tried everything before, but I probably spent the most time with assorted builds of GummyCharged FE. I switched to EP3HA once I saw that imoseyon got Voodoo Sound working on his kernel, and I definitely believe that's currently the best way to use the Charge. I get fewer launcher redraws, and data drops less -- but make no mistake, there are still redraws and drops. I do firmly believe that this phone is headed toward greatness; in a year or so it's going to be a really amazing choice if it keeps improving at this rate. So, I'm coming back in a year. I've just grown weary of living with a problematic phone when Android itself has been done so much more gracefully on other devices -- how can any Charge owner deny that? Even if you love the device's hardware (as I do), have somehow had no issues (lol), and intend to keep it... the ability to run AOSP ROMs and to consistently get through the day on a single charge are irrefutably pretty big advantages.
One of my pals got a Droid Charge the same day as me, and has been experiencing all these same issues. In fact, our decisions to switch -- me to the Fascinate and him to the DInc -- were born out of frequent griping to each other about how poor the day-to-day with the Charge has been. Of course we hate losing LTE, it's obnoxious. The biggest reason we're paying Verizon's hilariously awful prices was to get access to LTE 700, and hopefully we'll get to come back to it soon. It's kind of a bummer because this has been his first Android device (he came from an iPhone 3GS). I told him the day we got our phones that I really wished Verizon had a solid LTE device with mature CyanogenMod support, because Samsung puts out a really embarassing version of Android and it's a super ****ty first impression to show him of the platform I've grown to love. "But," we said, "having LTE should make up for it."
It almost does. Almost.
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This. I'm tired of people bashing this phone. Sure, it has some issues, but if you're that fed up with is just get rid of the phone. No sense in continuously *****ing about it.
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Do you work for Samsung? Why on earth could you possibly be bothered by people objectively stating their complaints about a half-baked product? I signed a two-year contract for an overpriced unfinished smartphone too, dude. I'm in the same boat as you.
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If you want to go back to a 3G phone, how about you set your Charge to 3G only? That way it behaves the same as a Fascinate.
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Look how bad your post is. This is a bad, bad post.

kalibar said:
I thought I was pretty clear in my OP, but maybe not. I miss CyanogenMod. That is the main thing that I miss. The Charge doesn't have it. I guess I also miss having a small device, but that's not a fair complaint right now -- LTE radios are chunky, and I recognize that.
The battery life has been a really big sore spot for me, too. I've tried setting the phone to CDMA/Ev-DO only (completely ignoring the ridiculousness of carrying a larger, more expensive device and toggling off its best feature) to get a feel for what I'd be getting into speedwise if I switched to a Fascinate. I rarely use GPS, and leave it turned off.
It doesn't seem to have any effect on the battery; on Wednesday I ran it CDMA-only and barely used the device at all outside of an hour or so of PowerAmp playback and a handful of Google searches and GV messages. I took it off the charger with 100% juice at 7:15 AM, and it was dead by 6:30 PM. The maddening part is that it's crazy inconsistent: there are days where it makes it through the whole day with 30% or so left,even though I've had LTE turned on all day and have been using the phone fairly extensively. I definitely don't think it's a hardware problem -- Engadget swears they got two days in their review of this thing. The best guess I've been able to piece together is that the battery loss has something to do with with the phone's poor tower handoffs, because I've noticed a pattern of having a dead Charge on days where I move from place to place a lot. Days where my only destinations are home and work don't seem to exhibit the issue as much.
I suppose I'm past the point of being interested in solving it, and the device's limited community uptake (relative to something like the Nexus phones, or several of the more popular HTCs) doesn't help. That's the hugely exciting thing about the Galaxy Nexus -- we at least know it'll be crazy popular here, at Rootzwiki, and everywhere else. I just hope it's got a decent DAC and headphone amp, because otherwise the Fascinate and the Charge are still going to be my future.
Someone asked me to post my setup, so I guess I'll repeat myself. I'm running EP3HA debloated. I've tried it with the stock kernel and with imoseyon's kernel -- didn't notice major differences either way. Compared to its predecessors, EP3HA has been an incredible improvement -- I ran the gamut and tried everything before, but I probably spent the most time with assorted builds of GummyCharged FE. I switched to EP3HA once I saw that imoseyon got Voodoo Sound working on his kernel, and I definitely believe that's currently the best way to use the Charge. I get fewer launcher redraws, and data drops less -- but make no mistake, there are still redraws and drops. I do firmly believe that this phone is headed toward greatness; in a year or so it's going to be a really amazing choice if it keeps improving at this rate. So, I'm coming back in a year. I've just grown weary of living with a problematic phone when Android itself has been done so much more gracefully on other devices -- how can any Charge owner deny that? Even if you love the device's hardware (as I do), have somehow had no issues (lol), and intend to keep it... the ability to run AOSP ROMs and to consistently get through the day on a single charge are irrefutably pretty big advantages.
One of my pals got a Droid Charge the same day as me, and has been experiencing all these same issues. In fact, our decisions to switch -- me to the Fascinate and him to the DInc -- were born out of frequent griping to each other about how poor the day-to-day with the Charge has been. Of course we hate losing LTE, it's obnoxious. The biggest reason we're paying Verizon's hilariously awful prices was to get access to LTE 700, and hopefully we'll get to come back to it soon. It's kind of a bummer because this has been his first Android device (he came from an iPhone 3GS). I told him the day we got our phones that I really wished Verizon had a solid LTE device with mature CyanogenMod support, because Samsung puts out a really embarassing version of Android and it's a super ****ty first impression to show him of the platform I've grown to love. "But," we said, "having LTE should make up for it."
It almost does. Almost.
Do you work for Samsung? Why on earth could you possibly be bothered by people objectively stating their complaints about a half-baked product? I signed a two-year contract for an overpriced unfinished smartphone too, dude. I'm in the same boat as you.
Look how bad your post is. This is a bad, bad post.
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... and people wonder why the Gummy team left XDA.
If you wanted a phone that ran CM7, why'd you buy a phone that didn't have it? You should be well aware of how development works, there are no guarantees. I just think it's hilarious that you're going to pay your own hard earned money to downgrade your phone just because your particular favorite toy isn't on there.
I mean sucks that you're having some relatively minor problems with your Charge, but the Fascinate was no angel either. Have fun with your dropped / missed calls, front buttons that push themselves and total garbage GPS lock times.
To be honest, it sounds like you know the game here, so I assume you did your homework before your bought it, so really, you have no one but yourself to blame.

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... and people wonder why the Gummy team left XDA.
If you wanted a phone that ran CM7, why'd you buy a phone that didn't have it? You should be well aware of how development works, there are no guarantees. I just think it's hilarious that you're going to pay your own hard earned money to downgrade your phone just because your particular favorite toy isn't on there.
I mean sucks that you're having some relatively minor problems with your Charge, but the Fascinate was no angel either. Have fun with your dropped / missed calls, front buttons that push themselves and total garbage GPS lock times.
To be honest, it sounds like you know the game here, so I assume you did your homework before your bought it, so really, you have no one but yourself to blame.
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Since when was usability a toy? Maybe it's his fault for buying a phone that doesn't have CM7, but it's not his fault the phone's stock firmware is garbage. Why are you all apologists for this device? Is it because you bought it? Do you guys go around, telling people how your phone is the best phone no matter what, all because you paid money for it and to do otherwise would make you feel stupid?
Just be honest. The phone kinda sucks. It'd be one thing if the battery life was just bad, but the fact that it varies from day to day is like having a car that gets 25mpg on some days and 12mpg on others. It's one thing to tolerate mediocrity, but to defend it is absolutely despicable. You all should be ashamed.
Multiple times, across multiple firmwares (humble, gummy, fe and gbe, infinity beta w/ ep3ha) I've had the phone lag at inappropriate times that resulted in committing an action that I absolutely did not want.
For example, and I think this was on Gummy 2.0 GBE (laughably bad compared to even the release candidates that came before it), one time I pressed the power button to wake the phone, and it didn't wake (I have a case that makes it so you have to push a little harder), so I pressed it again and it did. I then slid to unlock, but instead of that happening, the phone shut off. It was so laggy that it actually did detect the first power button press, and the second one I held slightly too long (which brings up the reboot/poweroff/silent/etc dialog) and when I thought I was sliding to unlock, the phone registered it as pressing the power off option on the popup dialog that hadn't yet appeared when I was trying to unlock the phone. Phone powers off. I tried to unlock my phone and instead got a powered off device.
That's ****ing unacceptable. It's 2011, we should have devices that are responsive and stable. But instead, we get a holocaust. This isn't my fault. This isn't kalibar's fault. It's Samsung's fault. We thought we could count on them to make something with perhaps not the best experience, but a passable one at least. And we weren't just a little wrong, we were really wrong.
If you honestly believe this phone is good, you've never used an iPhone. I'm not trying to start an Android vs iOS argument, but when it comes to having a phone with reliable battery life and a consistently responsive user experience, the iPhone never fails. And although I've heard the 4S has ****ty battery life at the moment, there is no doubt in my mind that it will actually get fixed because Apple actually gives a ****. In a year when you can run AOSP ROMs on this phone, I would bet money that the official offering from Samsung remains an abortion.
Anyone who claims to have no issues with this phone is either a liar, or a good majority of Droid Charges are lemons. Either does not bode well.
And stop called the Fascinate, "Fassy." It immediately reveals that you're a neckbeard virgin.
p.s. The Gummy team left XDA not because people complain about the shortcomings of devices but because people do things like irrationally defend utter crap and spout cringe-inducingly stupid nonsense.

@jhonas, The phone is fairly new and the bugs will be worked out, I have complete faith in our developers.

Someone is an internet tough guy...
The Gummy Team left XDA from people like you just constantly whining about EVERYTHING. I don't have any problems with this phone beyond the battery life. That's it.
It's not like some of us defend our phones just for the hell of it...it's because we know this can be potentially a great phone. Things can take time. Look at how the FASSY (you mad?) was at the very beginning - everyone hated it. Now that it's a mature phone, it can be appreciated. Development for this device is in its infancy-unfortunately some people can't or won't see that and insist on bashing it.
Sent from my Droid Charge running Infinity Beta

Jhonas said:
Since when was usability a toy? Maybe it's his fault for buying a phone that doesn't have CM7, but it's not his fault the phone's stock firmware is garbage. Why are you all apologists for this device? Is it because you bought it? Do you guys go around, telling people how your phone is the best phone no matter what, all because you paid money for it and to do otherwise would make you feel stupid?
Just be honest. The phone kinda sucks. It'd be one thing if the battery life was just bad, but the fact that it varies from day to day is like having a car that gets 25mpg on some days and 12mpg on others. It's one thing to tolerate mediocrity, but to defend it is absolutely despicable. You all should be ashamed.
Multiple times, across multiple firmwares (humble, gummy, fe and gbe, infinity beta w/ ep3ha) I've had the phone lag at inappropriate times that resulted in committing an action that I absolutely did not want.
For example, and I think this was on Gummy 2.0 GBE (laughably bad compared to even the release candidates that came before it), one time I pressed the power button to wake the phone, and it didn't wake (I have a case that makes it so you have to push a little harder), so I pressed it again and it did. I then slid to unlock, but instead of that happening, the phone shut off. It was so laggy that it actually did detect the first power button press, and the second one I held slightly too long (which brings up the reboot/poweroff/silent/etc dialog) and when I thought I was sliding to unlock, the phone registered it as pressing the power off option on the popup dialog that hadn't yet appeared when I was trying to unlock the phone. Phone powers off. I tried to unlock my phone and instead got a powered off device.
That's ****ing unacceptable. It's 2011, we should have devices that are responsive and stable. But instead, we get a holocaust. This isn't my fault. This isn't kalibar's fault. It's Samsung's fault. We thought we could count on them to make something with perhaps not the best experience, but a passable one at least. And we weren't just a little wrong, we were really wrong.
If you honestly believe this phone is good, you've never used an iPhone. I'm not trying to start an Android vs iOS argument, but when it comes to having a phone with reliable battery life and a consistently responsive user experience, the iPhone never fails. And although I've heard the 4S has ****ty battery life at the moment, there is no doubt in my mind that it will actually get fixed because Apple actually gives a ****. In a year when you can run AOSP ROMs on this phone, I would bet money that the official offering from Samsung remains an abortion.
Anyone who claims to have no issues with this phone is either a liar, or a good majority of Droid Charges are lemons. Either does not bode well.
And stop called the Fascinate, "Fassy." It immediately reveals that you're a neckbeard virgin.
p.s. The Gummy team left XDA not because people complain about the shortcomings of devices but because people do things like irrationally defend utter crap and spout cringe-inducingly stupid nonsense.
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First off, there are plenty of decaffeinated brands on the market that taste just as good as the real thing, think about it.
I don't believe fivecent was referring to usability as a toy. He was referring to CM7 as a toy. It didn't come pre-installed on the phone - it's an extra or a "toy." It is well known Samsung is notorious for great hardware and crappy software. If you and kalibar have been around on Android at all, you should have already known this. And if you didn't do enough research to find this out, shame on both of you. Albert Einstein said insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. In this case expecting Samsung to suddenly put out a phone with great software given their track record, I would call naive.
Apple isn't better at fixing things because they care more, it's because they only have on phone to work on. All other phone manufacturers prefer to offer customers options and choices. Apple tells it's sheeple (customers) this is what we make, you will buy it and like it.
The Charge was only the third LTE phone on Verizon. Like davwaman said, there are still bugs and they will be worked out. Verizon and all phone manufacturers are encountering occasional problems related to 4G LTE. No 4G LTE phone has a functional CM7 because of the 4G radios/RIL.
And TeamGummy and several other developers didn't leave XDA for either your reason or the other reason stated. It's not my place to say why they left. You can ask them yourself, which you obviously haven't done based on your post.
And finally, you've been a member here since 2007 and this rant is your first post? Really? Not one productive or helpful post before now?

Jhonas said:
Since when was usability a toy? Maybe it's his fault for buying a phone that doesn't have CM7, but it's not his fault the phone's stock firmware is garbage. Why are you all apologists for this device? Is it because you bought it? Do you guys go around, telling people how your phone is the best phone no matter what, all because you paid money for it and to do otherwise would make you feel stupid?
Just be honest. The phone kinda sucks. It'd be one thing if the battery life was just bad, but the fact that it varies from day to day is like having a car that gets 25mpg on some days and 12mpg on others. It's one thing to tolerate mediocrity, but to defend it is absolutely despicable. You all should be ashamed.
Multiple times, across multiple firmwares (humble, gummy, fe and gbe, infinity beta w/ ep3ha) I've had the phone lag at inappropriate times that resulted in committing an action that I absolutely did not want.
For example, and I think this was on Gummy 2.0 GBE (laughably bad compared to even the release candidates that came before it), one time I pressed the power button to wake the phone, and it didn't wake (I have a case that makes it so you have to push a little harder), so I pressed it again and it did. I then slid to unlock, but instead of that happening, the phone shut off. It was so laggy that it actually did detect the first power button press, and the second one I held slightly too long (which brings up the reboot/poweroff/silent/etc dialog) and when I thought I was sliding to unlock, the phone registered it as pressing the power off option on the popup dialog that hadn't yet appeared when I was trying to unlock the phone. Phone powers off. I tried to unlock my phone and instead got a powered off device.
That's ****ing unacceptable. It's 2011, we should have devices that are responsive and stable. But instead, we get a holocaust. This isn't my fault. This isn't kalibar's fault. It's Samsung's fault. We thought we could count on them to make something with perhaps not the best experience, but a passable one at least. And we weren't just a little wrong, we were really wrong.
If you honestly believe this phone is good, you've never used an iPhone. I'm not trying to start an Android vs iOS argument, but when it comes to having a phone with reliable battery life and a consistently responsive user experience, the iPhone never fails. And although I've heard the 4S has ****ty battery life at the moment, there is no doubt in my mind that it will actually get fixed because Apple actually gives a ****. In a year when you can run AOSP ROMs on this phone, I would bet money that the official offering from Samsung remains an abortion.
Anyone who claims to have no issues with this phone is either a liar, or a good majority of Droid Charges are lemons. Either does not bode well.
And stop called the Fascinate, "Fassy." It immediately reveals that you're a neckbeard virgin.
p.s. The Gummy team left XDA not because people complain about the shortcomings of devices but because people do things like irrationally defend utter crap and spout cringe-inducingly stupid nonsense.
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so much BUTTHURT lol
no but seriously I loved my FASSY and I love my Charge, sure they both have issues but are incredible phones none the less.. there are always problems and always will be as no phone is perfect, and this constant whining about how bad it is isn't helping anyone unless its an actual constructive question about how to fix something or why something's happening
Lufc or Scotsman where you at buddies, lock this thread up
blazing through on my 4G Droid Charge

Jhonas said:
If you honestly believe this phone is good, you've never used an iPhone. I'm not trying to start an Android vs iOS argument, but when it comes to having a phone with reliable battery life and a consistently responsive user experience, the iPhone never fails. And although I've heard the 4S has ****ty battery life at the moment, there is no doubt in my mind that it will actually get fixed because Apple actually gives a ****. In a year when you can run AOSP ROMs on this phone, I would bet money that the official offering from Samsung remains an abortion.
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Chopping the rest because this is all I'm going to respond to. I came to this phone from an iPhone. You couldn't pay me to go back.
That is all.

I don't understand how this thread is still going on. We have a parade of "blame the OP" for daring to purchase the flagship Samsung Verizon phone and expecting it to actually work, then people pretending like a battery that goes 12 hours, barely, if you micro it, is perfectly acceptable, then we have people blaming other posters for not making enough nice posts before a rant?
Seriously, what the hell? The phone seems pretty crappy from all the reviews and I don't think that the OP was asking for people to leap in and white-knight it, I'm pretty sure he wanted opinions on things he would miss or whatever if he downgraded to a Fascinate.
(Honestly, "Fassy"? Makes you sound like you're 5.)

Skyrocket banned from being sold in US.

Apple won a lawsuit against Samsung, thus many of their older devices are now going to be banned from being sold in the US. This includes the Skyrocket.
http://smartphones.reviewed.com/news/apples-lawsuit-win-spells-the-end-of-old-samsung-phones
In fact, it's not even listed on Amazon anymore.

Ragarianok said:
Apple won a lawsuit against Samsung, thus many of their older devices are now going to be banned from being sold in the US. This includes the Skyrocket.
http://smartphones.reviewed.com/news/apples-lawsuit-win-spells-the-end-of-old-samsung-phones
In fact, it's not even listed on Amazon anymore.
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Kind of pointless for a phone that hasn't been discontinued for years. That phone come out in late 2011 and was a piece of **** anyways.

jimv1983 said:
Kind of pointless for a phone that hasn't been discontinued for years. That phone come out in late 2011 and was a piece of **** anyways.
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Some people still use it, even if it's just used as a music player. Saying that it was a piece of excrement is merely your opinion. It was about a year ago that I switched from my old Skyrocket to the Moto G 2014 I'm using now, but the switch was a personal choice. It still worked quite well.

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Some people still use it, even if it's just used as a music player. Saying that it was a piece of excrement is merely your opinion. It was about a year ago that I switched from my old Skyrocket to the Moto G 2014 I'm using now, but the switch was a personal choice. It still worked quite well.
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It isn't really opinion. It was so slow that I missed like 75% of calls because it took so long to register the swipe to answer. I would launch even as simple app like the calculator and count to 3 before it even started to show on the screen. Even a factory reset didn't make any difference. The battery life was terrible too. An 1.5 hours screen on time with 8 hours off the charger and the battery was dead and even buying a new battery didn't help. I also had to replace the back cover 3 times because of how easily it wore out.
I'm 32 years old and have made a LOT of purchases in my life. Buying the Skyrocket was literally the worst purchasing decision I ever made. When I replaced it(after .5 years of ok use and 1.5 years of hell) with my Nexus 5 I actually smashed the phone with a hammer.

jimv1983 said:
Kind of pointless for a phone that hasn't been discontinued for years. That phone come out in late 2011 and was a piece of **** anyways.
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speak for yourself.
mines going onto 4yrs of use, still my dd, everything works, boots up fast to cm10.2, every app works, quick and responsive, original battery, dropped it numerous times and nothing broke, best phone ive ever had.
i read ur other post and maybe you just got a lemon as there are still many users using this phone considering its 4yrs old, not too many phones last that long w/out some kind of failure

vincom said:
speak for yourself.
mines going onto 4yrs of use, still my dd, everything works, boots up fast to cm10.2, every app works, quick and responsive, original battery, dropped it numerous times and nothing broke, best phone ive ever had.
i read ur other post and maybe you just got a lemon as there are still many users using this phone considering its 4yrs old, not too many phones last that long w/out some kind of failure
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Maybe with a custom ROM it might be a little better. With the stock Samsung ROM it was awful even after factory reset. As far as hardware goes the build quality was still terrible. At the end I almost couldn't charge it any more since the USB port got so damn loose. If I picked up the phone while it was plugged in the USB cable literally fell out of the port. And the back cover, what a joke.

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Maybe with a custom ROM it might be a little better. With the stock Samsung ROM it was awful even after factory reset. As far as hardware goes the build quality was still terrible. At the end I almost couldn't charge it any more since the USB port got so damn loose. If I picked up the phone while it was plugged in the USB cable literally fell out of the port. And the back cover, what a joke.
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Still going strong here! All original parts and rockin marshmallow...who would've thought this phone would make it this far. Glad you were able to find a phone that you like and are now able to move on. Later
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A

I just fired mine up after being in a drawer for a few months. Still works great.
Pretty snappy for a phone that is nearly 5 years old.

My rocket is still blasting to the sky! On it 10-16 hours daily! Text, email, calls, pictures and games. I had to fix the power button once.
This phone is a rock!

jimv1983 said:
Kind of pointless for a phone that hasn't been discontinued for years. That phone come out in late 2011 and was a piece of **** anyways.
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Are you sure you aren't thinking about the original Galaxy S2? The Skyrocket got a CPU upgrade along with LTE support, and it definitely wasn't a PoS. My wife and I finally upgraded when the batteries stopped holding much of a charge, but I keep them around and they are still reasonable devices. We certainly never had a problem with not being able to answer a call, or apps taking too long to load.
I have one on Sultan's old KK ROM and the other I'm using as a test-bed for Candy6. I will admit that LP and MM have been poky on these old phones, but hell, they are 5 years old at this point. That's an awfully good run for any device.

jshamlet said:
Are you sure you aren't thinking about the original Galaxy S2? The Skyrocket got a CPU upgrade along with LTE support, and it definitely wasn't a PoS. My wife and I finally upgraded when the batteries stopped holding much of a charge, but I keep them around and they are still reasonable devices. We certainly never had a problem with not being able to answer a call, or apps taking too long to load.
I have one on Sultan's old KK ROM and the other I'm using as a test-bed for Candy6. I will admit that LP and MM have been poky on these old phones, but hell, they are 5 years old at this point. That's an awfully good run for any device.
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Nope, I'm thinking of the Skyrocket. I had one. I got it in December of 2011. It was AT&T's first LTE phone. Maybe you had better luck if you had a custom ROM but the stock Samsung software was awful. Even after a factor reset. Worst purchase of any kind I have made......EVER.

Well that was your problem right there. TouchWhiz was particularly awful during those days. It's still not great, but it was absurdly bloated in Android 4 (ICS, JB). If you could revert to Gingerbread, it was actually a decent device with stock, but then you would be running Gingerbread...
CyanogenMod actually ran pretty well, though, and fixed most of the issues Samsung introduced.

vincom said:
speak for yourself. mines going onto 4yrs of use, still my dd, everything works, boots up fast to cm10.2, every app works, quick and responsive, original battery, dropped it numerous times and nothing broke, best phone ive ever had.
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Here, here

I'm posting from my rocket. What year is it? This thing's a beast.

nawlage said:
I'm posting from my rocket. What year is it? This thing's a beast.
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It's been quite a few years since I retired my Rocket, but I remember it fondly. Today, I'm using a Pixel 2 XL and I love it.

Still using a Skyrocket, just as an mp3 player though. It's running CM 13.0, and its not that bad.
Considering the phone is over 10 years old, It's pretty amazing modern apps still work on it. I would love to push it with an Android 10 ROM, but sadly I've only seen Android 7 being the highest version supported by the community. I think this phone just got lost to time unlike the regular S2.