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(Q) charge or thunderbolt

OK folks,
I have been a member follower of these groups for a longtime now. I love the android environment. I bought a charge yesterday that is giving me problems. I have not even begun to hack and am having lockups, robot voice, slow response, etc.
I have just factory reset before I take it back but wanted to know what the groups feel about the 2. I will be submitting this same question in the thunderbolt forum as well. Looking for opinions with a reason, please no flaming either device or me. I have read nearly every post under the charge group of forums.
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What were the issues you had with the Charge? Maybe others had the same problem and know of a way to fix things, or a work around?
Overall, I've heard of issues with both devices, but I have heard of more serious problems with the Thunderbolt compared to the Charge. The Thunderbolt is having reboot issues with the latest OTA update, and before that, had significant battery drain problems, with a full charge lasting just a few hours, regardless of use. The other problem, which is semi-manageable is the screen and its washed out look, and I've also heard of light bleed around the edge. The other issue, which I haven't heard as much about recently where times when the Thunderbolt would get stuck in 1X or 3G when in a 4G area.
With the Charge, some users seem to have random battery drain problems. Myself, I haven't noticed it being to bad, but I only just got my phone. Signal bouncing around has been reported to, but so far, when I'm in a 4G area, it stays in 4G unless I send a text or get a call (haven't tried voice/data simultaneously yet), and if I'm in a fringe 4G area, it seems to only pick it up if it is a better signal than 3G. Software may be a downside here to, depending on how you look at it, but so far, this is the best Samsung phone I have used, and best phone overall, despite the current lack of mods (which will be fixed in the coming days/weeks now)

I just picked up a Charge about a week ago after returning the Thunderbolt. I can honestly say if you want a 4G device, the Charge is the better option. I used the Thunderbolt for about six weeks and had way too many issues with it. I won't say that the Charge is problem free, but its minimal in comparison and managable. With the Thunderbolt I had worse battery issues, syncing that wouldn't shut off, terrible signal that would go from 3G to 1X to no service, and reboots multiple times a day. The only problems I've had with the Charge has been Touchwiz and the battery. Touchwiz is an awful launcher but that's what ADW or Launcherpro is for. And the battery life for the Charge is rough, but probably double than what I was getting out of the Thunderbolt. Before these phones came out, I had no faith in either manufacturer when it came to android. Now, some has developed for one. Hope this helps.
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Thanks both of you for your responses. I have read the complete forums about my issues and some are common and involve a bad phone. I actual got 2 and the other one does not have the same issues so back to Verizon for a replacement I will go.
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I have a thunderbolt too and have and still do have random reboots and battery drain. I also get 1X lock in 3G areas too.
My wife owns the Charge and so far it's nice. I haven't really had it long enough to really compare the two.
How did you return your Thunderbolt after 6 weeks? Or did you just pay full retail for the Charge and ebay the thunderbolt?
ghettomuffin said:
I just picked up a Charge about a week ago after returning the Thunderbolt. I can honestly say if you want a 4G device, the Charge is the better option. I used the Thunderbolt for about six weeks and had way too many issues with it. I won't say that the Charge is problem free, but its minimal in comparison and managable. With the Thunderbolt I had worse battery issues, syncing that wouldn't shut off, terrible signal that would go from 3G to 1X to no service, and reboots multiple times a day. The only problems I've had with the Charge has been Touchwiz and the battery. Touchwiz is an awful launcher but that's what ADW or Launcherpro is for. And the battery life for the Charge is rough, but probably double than what I was getting out of the Thunderbolt. Before these phones came out, I had no faith in either manufacturer when it came to android. Now, some has developed for one. Hope this helps.
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I bought my charge yesterday. Came from a tbolt. The tbolt is a piece of **** compared to the charge. ****ty battery. Poor build quality.bluetooth sucks. Screen sucks. And for some reason htc cant seem to send me a good replacement for my original tbolt that randomly died on me. Samsung makes a fine product.
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The ONLY thing i preferred on the TB over my Charge was the 256mb of extra memory really does make a difference, everything is that bit snappier on the TB, but the crap battery, poor visible screen when outside, the piss poor signal, the fact it looked just like my mates htc surround windows 7 phone just bigger and finally some of the software is garbage like when it saves drafts and you dont want it to of your half written text, and the fact the browser instead of being able to type and google search appears, you have to delete the http:// that appears everytime, make the charge stand head and shoulders above the HTC, will be interesting to see what this new LG Revolution is like as that seems identical to the charge
Quick edit: But i have to add that when changing over from rfs with the voodoo lag fix could make things even out in speed, im yet to root so i cant answer

kendav911 said:
Thanks both of you for your responses. I have read the complete forums about my issues and some are common and involve a bad phone. I actual got 2 and the other one does not have the same issues so back to Verizon for a replacement I will go.
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I had to take back my first Charge as the vibrate motor was dead The new one though seems to be fine thus far though.

I had the Thunderbolt the first day it came out and returned it on the 14th. I really like the Charge, compared to HTC and Motorola, I think Samsung offers a good blend of things. The media player on this phone f-in ROCKS! The camera is good, much better low light performance than Motorola and offers great controls, and the screen is beautiful. The only thing I absolutely HATE is the **** brown color scheme. I hope that this can be resolved soon and I hope that developers will jump on board and give us a great community of ROM's and support because I think this phone has great potential

I *think* the Charge has dedicated video memory, where the TB doesn't.
So the Charge may only have 512M RAM, but I *think* it has 128M of video memory, where the TB has 768 of shared memory.
Someone chime in and correct me if I am wrong.
I do have both a Charge (wife) and a TB. I think the Charge, even with the Voodoo lag fix, is not as snappy as the TB. Not because of the memory, but because the TB has a bumped processor over the older hummingbird.
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The ONLY thing i preferred on the TB over my Charge was the 256mb of extra memory really does make a difference, everything is that bit snappier on the TB, but the crap battery, poor visible screen when outside, the piss poor signal, the fact it looked just like my mates htc surround windows 7 phone just bigger and finally some of the software is garbage like when it saves drafts and you dont want it to of your half written text, and the fact the browser instead of being able to type and google search appears, you have to delete the http:// that appears everytime, make the charge stand head and shoulders above the HTC, will be interesting to see what this new LG Revolution is like as that seems identical to the charge
Quick edit: But i have to add that when changing over from rfs with the voodoo lag fix could make things even out in speed, im yet to root so i cant answer
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Thanks all for the feedback. I still have the Charge and I did a factory reset and most of the issues have resolved itself. I am still looking at the thunderbolt but for now I have the Charge.

Anyone else regret having a Charge?

I got it, hate it. I would get a boinic if it were not for t nexus rumors. Now I am stuck and just waiting

BankZZ said:
I got it, hate it. I would get a boinic if it were not for t nexus rumors. Now I am stuck and just waiting
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Bionic really? You would want to puke when you see its screen.

Yes. However, I'm not going to do anything util I hear about the nexus. However, I'm not sure how much longer I can take using this pos.

I don't regret getting it at all because I got it free thanks to the fascinate. I'm rather thankful, however I wish the internet wouldn't disconnect so often even on 3g only.

I love it. I don't see why you'd hate it, especially with all these amazing roms available. Only reason I had to exchange mine was due to screen defects.

Sorry to hear. That's disappointing when your phone doesn't work well.
My Charge is flying along with Rooted ROMs and Imoyosen kernel and v6 supercharger and kickass! So far so good since July.

I've only ran GummyCharge. Maybe that's my problem? I am coming from a D1, then DX. Both were great phones. This phone seems slow, ugly, no notification light and poor battery. It also feels cheap in my hand

BankZZ said:
I've only ran GummyCharge. Maybe that's my problem? I am coming from a D1, then DX. Both were great phones. This phone seems slow, ugly, no notification light and poor battery. It also feels cheap in my hand
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I'm running Humble 1.6 at the moment. Very smooth. I honestly don't think this phone is ugly; personally I feel it's one of the more futuristic looking phones out there. As for it feeling cheap in your hands, perhaps you should use a case?
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BankZZ said:
I got it, hate it. I would get a boinic if it were not for t nexus rumors. Now I am stuck and just waiting
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I just about thought the same thing...I had issues that.couldn't be resolved...exchanged for a new, this one was freshly sent from Samsung and has superior build quality than before...the battery life has doubled and it doesn't get hot like the 1st one.
Unrooted too.
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I don't have any huge problems with the charge. Its not much of an improvement over my old captivate, but it does have a working gps (yay!!!) and most importantly unlimited 4g data Anyone looking at the bionic should definitely play with out in store before plunking down any money for it. Its definitely fast, but the screen is hit or miss. Some people are fine with it, and some are annoyed as hell by it. After using the Charge and then looking at the screen of the captivate I can definitely notice the pentile vs non-pentile displays. There's no other word to describe a pentile screen except grainy. The new phones with amoleds screen though are the ones to watch (just announced Droid RAZR, Droid Prime, Galaxy Nexus etc). Till then, the charge is worth keeping.

Besides not having functional aosp (which I know is coming in time) I do not regret swapping my fascinate out. Its a better phone all around and my only real complaint would be the issues my signal has with stability.
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BankZZ said:
I've only ran GummyCharge. Maybe that's my problem? I am coming from a D1, then DX. Both were great phones. This phone seems slow, ugly, no notification light and poor battery. It also feels cheap in my hand
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Theres an app called noled, its works just like a notification light. Try it

Poor battery life, on the Charge? Are you using the same phone I am? Battery life on this phone is simply amazing as far as Android goes. Slow? Again, you must be doing it wrong. This is definitely no slower than other devices out right now, aside from the dual core phones. I would suggest going back to stock, and getting instructions on how to install a ROM correctly.
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Love my charge personally! Using imnuts ep1w rom and its great. I also like the so called 'cheap' feel. My friends have htc evo and that thing weighs a ton, I like how mine feels. Next benefit is the amazing sound quality on music with the Wolfson DAC and voodoo sound, no other phone comes close. Of all phones available now including bionic and even gs2 on other carriers the charge is still my top pick.
No going back from voodoo sound and SAMOLED+
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Without a doubt this is a great phone. Great battery, when ROM'd, everything is fast and fluid.
No regrets at all....

I love mine as well, im using the leaked gingerbread bloated, froze a bunch of the bloatware on titanium backup
I can get through about 12 hours (full work day) using the phone moderately.
so much better experience than my old droid 2

'anybody regret not getting a Charge sooner?'
fixed that title for ya
in seriousness though no, this phone runs circles around all my previous ones and is arguably one of the best phones VZ (if not THE best, yes I'm looking at you LOLbionic) has right now

When you guys say great battery life? What do you mean. I can't make it through a day. When you say fast, what do you mean? It seems like my phone become non-responsive at time and starts acting odd and I have to reboot.
Also the BT on this is bad. I have to make sure its on before I turn on my car radio or it doesn't connect. And when it does connect it has audio hiccups.
I tried nooled and it was OK but took it off cuz I was already having battery problems. I also couldn't figure out how to get it to work with touchdown but I think that works.
Maybe I have a bad phone (but this is my 2nd)? Maybe I have a bad app (Ive started to remove apps)? Maybe its GummyCharge? Maybe the phone just sucks?
I don't know. I just know I want something better

I have no issues with this phone, except for the battery life. Which is to be expected. However, I can get through a full day (6AM-10PM), but it's completely dead by the time I go to charge it.
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J say switch to the bionic so we don't have to see threads like this anymore.
Serioulsy tho.. most of us love this phone
Its fast as he'll when rommed correctly. I am on gummy GBE and its extreamly fast, no stuttering ever and I get up to 20 hours of battery life (less if I use it hardcore)
You will hate the screen on the bionic and motor blur even in its new form is garbage.
Personally I am going to get the vigor. Htc fan here.. I had the incredible when it had the amoled screen.. htc just makes awesome phones.
Only thing that bugs me on the charge is the gps.
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HTC Thunderbolt or Droid Charge by Samsung

The charge and the thunderbolt. Yet I'm trying to figure out which one is the best one. The charge has that super amoled plus screen, and the thunderbolt has the amazing body. What are your guys decision thanks.
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How much is the employee plan and how can I get it I'm also a radioshack employee already with Verizon
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Btw I'd go with the Droid charge
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Droid charge just for the battery life. Both have their pros and cons, but poor battery life significantly cripples the Thunderbolt.

Think about what part of the phone you look at all the time and then get the Charge.
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droid charge hands down
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It took me about 2 seconds in a side by side comparison in the Verizon store to decide on the Charge and I haven't regretted it for a second.

shrike1978 said:
It took me about 2 seconds in a side by side comparison in the Verizon store to decide on the Charge and I haven't regretted it for a second.
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LOL, I made the same comparison....
One of my co-workers has a t-bolt & he would swap it for a Charge in a heartbeat if he could.
~John

I've used both, I'm going for the Charge. You asked why?
1) Super AMOLED Plus
2) Lighter
3) Better battery life
Why not?
1) HTC Sense, I like this more than TouchWiz 3.0, but after seeing TouchWiz 4.0, I may change my mind.
The rest is up to you to decide for yourself

fortesquieu said:
1) HTC Sense, I like this more than TouchWiz 3.0, but after seeing TouchWiz 4.0, I may change my mind.
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Personally, I think they both suck but I use LauncherPro Plus and custom icons etc so it doesn't really matter to me which which one the phone or ROM come with.
~John

I've noticed that phones with Qualcomm SoCs have significantly fewer reception issues than phones with other radio chipsets. Makes sense since Qualcomm basically owns the CDMA standard. Also, while the CPU is roughly equivalent, the Tbolt has an extra 256MB of RAM which- given all the home screen redraw issues I've had on my Charge- is enough to make a difference.
Before someone brings it up, it's my understanding that the "Wireless by Qualcomm" sticker on top of the Charge means that Samsung paid their licensing fees to Qualcomm for use of the CDMA technology, not that Qualcomm had anything to do with making the modem. If that's incorrect, feel free to set me straight.
The Charge, however, has that Wolfson DAC and the Super AMOLED+, as well as HDMI out, making it a clearly superior device for entertainment purposes. So really it comes down to... do you want the better phone (battery issues aside), or a truly amazing PMP that happens to be a decent Verizon handset as well?

The charge and thunderbolt both have their ups and downs, but the main reason you should get the charge is you can most likely sell it for more. Get the charge, sell it, put a little cash on it and get the vigor/nexus prime.

Thunderbolt but I sold it they are both no good go to att get galaxy s 2 its the ****in bomb
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mohkg said:
go to att get galaxy s 2 its the ****in bomb
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LOL, you got to be kidding me.
I'm sure the phone is nice, but who the heck is going to swap from VZ service to ATT just to get a different phone??
~John

Before I got my charge 2 weeks ago, I was looking at the Thunderbolt, Incredible, or this. I did some looking online at reviews and went into the store to get a feel for them. While they are all good, the Charge was my choice and I haven't regretted it yet. Oh and p.s. the phone I had before was an LG Ally lol so using this phone is like going from a Leapster to an Alienware
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I'm in same situation and have decided on the Charge. For a lot of the above reasons and mainly for the Display and the battery.
A co-worker decided on the TB because she likes HTC and she's used to always putting her ATT HTC Inpire on the Charger all the time at work and figures thats how she'll be using the ThunderBolt.
Go figure???? Oh well that's why there's more than one model of phone out there. And everyone likes to make a different decision even if it's wrong sometimes.
But I've made my decision also, and it looks good, especially the display.

Wait for the Nexus.

Turb0wned said:
Wait for the Nexus.
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Sometimes other things aren't an option
As in my case, My Company also gave me a Choice of Thunderbolt, Droid Charge or Droid X2.
Not of the Nexus or Droid Bionic and them So it doesn't do me any good either to wonder about better phones on the horizon. I have to deal with what choice to make of the phones I'm offered now.
I'll promise you this though, that there most assuridly will be a better phone than the Charge coming out in the future. Even better than the NEXUS Thats technology always advancing
But I think of the 3 choices I mentioned the Charge offers me the best features, options and mods for now. IMHO

I turned in my TB to VZW in exchange for he Charge. I had the TB since day two that it was out. Just too many issues on it for me. I had it rooted but returned to stock before sending it back.
What I've found with the Charge is that I traded in a phone with issues for a different phone but with as many issues, just different issues than the TB.
I'm eyeing either the Nexus or the Vigor right now. If the Nexus only has 16 or even 32 gb of memory and no external sd then I will go with the Vigor. I won't get either one on day or or day two. I'll probaby wait for a week and then watch the forums to see what issues are coming up on them.
I think the biggest problem for me with the Charge is the unbelievably bad wifi radio. Right now we are remodeling our bedroom in our house and so we head out to our RV sitting in our driveway to sleep at night. I have an Asus Transformer in there and it gets a signal from the wifi in the house with no problem. My old TB got the wifi signal with no problem. My wife's dinc get wifi with no problem, but this Charge barely gets a signal when it gets one and the signal fades in and out constantly.
R

racedog said:
I turned in my TB to VZW in exchange for he Charge. I had the TB since day two that it was out. Just too many issues on it for me. I had it rooted but returned to stock before sending it back.
What I've found with the Charge is that I traded in a phone with issues for a different phone but with as many issues, just different issues than the TB.
I'm eyeing either the Nexus or the Vigor right now. If the Nexus only has 16 or even 32 gb of memory and no external sd then I will go with the Vigor. I won't get either one on day or or day two. I'll probaby wait for a week and then watch the forums to see what issues are coming up on them.
I think the biggest problem for me with the Charge is the unbelievably bad wifi radio. Right now we are remodeling our bedroom in our house and so we head out to our RV sitting in our driveway to sleep at night. I have an Asus Transformer in there and it gets a signal from the wifi in the house with no problem. My old TB got the wifi signal with no problem. My wife's dinc get wifi with no problem, but this Charge barely gets a signal when it gets one and the signal fades in and out constantly.
R
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yes finally someone brought up an issue I've had since day 1!!! I thought I was the only one who had horrendous wifi range on my Charge... the router in my place is maybe 30+ feet away in the back, my room's in the front where my laptop (and gf's Dinc) picks up the signal just fine and my Charge gets 0-1 bar... and I got a Cisco N+ router just for that reason, the range and speed

This phone is awesome

With all the complaining that goes on here, I figured a positive post couldn't hurt every once in a while.
I flashed the 2.3.6 TBH leak as soon as It came out and I feel like I bought a new phone!! I added ICS fuju tweaks, imoseyons 4.0 kernel and a few other tweaks and it hit 2350 in quadrant last night.
I use Launcher Pro Plus and absolutely LOVE it. I set all animation speeds in the launcher to 100% and it absolutely flies. The response it instantaneous, the thing is responding faster than my bosses bionic in most areas (what a steaming pile that phone is).
Now, with the camera button working from the power/search buttons this phone is almost perfect IMHO. My phone never freezes, hotboots or screeches on a call.
Maybe I just got lucky with mine but I have never had any problems that weren't directly my own fault and I had it for months. I don't know how it ran with the stock setup as I odined it to gummy 1.9.1 on the very first boot (it wasn't even activated on VZ yet) and have gone on from there.
I have owned a TON of phones and this is hands down the best one yet. I have two gorilla extended batteries with it and plan on keeping this phone a long time. The screen/sound/camera are all awesome. I had a liberty ROMed DroidX that I loved (I still have it) but these three items are all drastically better in the charge.
~John

I agree. I'm very happy with my charge. All I've done is flash the new leak and this thing flies.
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Same here. This is by far the best phone I've ever owned.
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I agree and battery life over 3g is insane.

By the way, before anybody accuses me of being a "fanboy" or apologist for samsung etc, I am the exact opposite of that. If I was having tons of problems, I would be *****ing just as loud and often as any poster here.
I personally get annoyed as hell at posters like that. I have an ipad2 and I had to stop posting to an iphone/ipad forum when I came close to getting banned for criticizing some of the many deficencies of the ipad. The clowns on that forum did not want to hear ANYTHING negative about their beloved iphone/ipad systems.
When I posted anything bad about the ipad, you would have thought I had insulted somebodies mother.........
~John

I love my Charge too. In the screen and audio department I believe it is the best 4G phone on Verizon. The camera is great too! If my phone didn't drop data, have gps lock issues, and drop out the microphone on calls occasionally I would also be sticking with this phone for my whole contract. I am jumping ship to the Galaxy Nexus as soon as possible though. I hope that this phone gets the support that it deserves in the software department from Samsung with some Gingerbread source and working radio software.
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Bear55 said:
If my phone didn't drop data, have gps lock issues, and drop out the microphone on calls
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I would go for the Nexus myself if I had those problems.
I almost never drop data, my GPS locks in 5 seconds & I don't make enough calls to know if the mic works or not (I do almost ALL texting)
~John

I like this phone. End of story. Sure, there are better ones out there, but I'm content with my Charge.
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I actually feel kind of bad when I see people posting the issues they're having because there's no way to duplicate it, to help with troubleshooting.
I, for one, have had not 1 single data drop. No voice call issues, no hotboots, no redraws, no lag, no nothing. Sometimes I seriously wish I could have some issues with it so I could help people out. However, I'm available for my upgrade in March and I plan on using it.

+1 on not having any issues.
She's running real smooth on EP4. No data drops. And I'm really digging the ICS theme. Can't wait for source to be released so the devs can really show what this phone is made of.

This phone really got nice for me on EP3HA, and I have yet to migrate to EP4P. Also, don't forget to get Voodoo Screen tuning! This screen puts most phones to shame. I hope we get Voodoo Color someday. Perhaps more devs will gain interest in this phone if we get an official release. I have a hunch that the Galaxy Nexus is going to get a lot of attention, but I will personally wait for SAMOLED+ HD.

loved my charge until, i did a backup and some how i got that stock android recovery system so now i am thinking about keeping my phone stock for a while anyway although i do love some of the roms i tried to odin back but computer would not recognize phone so i was sol on that one.. so i am getting my replacement today shouuld be here soon seeing how the stock o.s. is going to treat me.....

bfitzpatrickd2d said:
loved my charge until, i did a backup and some how i got that stock android recovery system so now i am thinking about keeping my phone stock for a while anyway although i do love some of the roms i tried to odin back but computer would not recognize phone so i was sol on that one.. so i am getting my replacement today shouuld be here soon seeing how the stock o.s. is going to treat me.....
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Try plugging into a different USB port. I noticed some ports don't get enough juice.
Also, my procedure for Odin, is :
1)battery out
2)usb cable in
3)Volume up + power to recovery screen
4)battery in
without the battery back in, it will fail half way for me. Without the usb cable in this one slot on my computer, it won't even read it.
On EP4P, it has peformed better than ever before, but i still get random data drops and text messages "failed" for no reason. At home, i get 4G 5 bars. For some unknown reason, the 4G will dissapear every once in awhile and i have to reset my data to get it back. Other times, it goes to 3G. Just now i got 2 texts sent back as failed. I hit resend and they worked. but sucks to have to do this.

I love the charge also, it's the best choice for me right now.. I am testing out an Iphone4S, and both of these phones are amazing. But there's something about the Droid charge. that i can't let go of.. maybe it's the ease of file transfers.. or the fact that i can play FF8 on it. That and the 4G. I must say that the Charge is buggy at time compared to the Epic 4G. but hey.

orateam said:
Also, my procedure for Odin, is :
1)battery out
2)usb cable in
3)Volume up + power to recovery screen
4)battery in
without the battery back in, it will fail half way for me.
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Another way to get into DL mode for Odin is to shut down and remove the battery. Then hold down the volume down button and plug in the USB cable.
That will put it immediately into DL mode, then reinstall the battery and flash away.
~John

HTC One S - voice quality

For those who already have a One S, do you also have a contact noise in the background when you're talking to someone on the phone?
It gets louder if you turn up the volume and it is pretty annoying. Am I the only one having this problem?
What could be the reasons for this?

Rosinior said:
For those who already have a One S, do you also have a contact noise in the background when you're talking to someone on the phone?
It gets louder if you turn up the volume and it is pretty annoying. Am I the only one having this problem?
What could be the reasons for this?
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Did you check the review from the link here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24308267&postcount=6
No complaints from the guy who reviewed it there. How is the battery life on the device though? Any other complaints you got? I'm considering getting one soon.

jaywhy13 said:
Did you check the review from the link here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24308267&postcount=6
No complaints from the guy who reviewed it there. How is the battery life on the device though? Any other complaints you got? I'm considering getting one soon.
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In comparison to my hd2 it has a better battery life. I would say about 6-8 h online time. The only disturbing thing I found so far is the noise when calling someone.
The processor is devilishly good, everything is smooth and fast. Also it fits perfect in the hand, not too big and not too small either.

Rosinior said:
In comparison to my hd2 it has a better battery life. I would say about 6-8 h online time.
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What type of usage are you talking about where you are getting only 6-8 hours?

kaeruil said:
What type of usage are you talking about where you are getting only 6-8 hours?
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6-8 hours immense browsing with the phone. After that I have to recharge the battery, but not sure yet.
After 15 hours (about 30 mins using internet, most of this time in standby) I still got 75% of battery life.

I have 53% battery life after 24h not charging.
I used it for some surfing, sync, whatsapp, facebook and some other apps most time in wlan. 8h was completely standby, the rest was a mix of using and standby.
My first impression is, that the battery has an acceptable life.

That seems to be decent, though I do wonder how it'll be once it's all settled in, but back on topic. Do you still get that sound while using the headset or a bluetooth? Related to this, but is it just you or does the other person hear it, it might be the mic (or does the One S have a dual mic setup?) backfeeding or something like that.

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For those who already have a One S, do you also have a contact noise in the background when you're talking to someone on the phone?
It gets louder if you turn up the volume and it is pretty annoying. Am I the only one having this problem?
What could be the reasons for this?
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I have this problem too. It also feels like there are sometimes kind of interruptions in the conversation.

Haven't had a call yet...if the issue is there I hope it is a software bug. That can be fixed easily. I also hope they will get rid of that ugly on screen menu button and bring the htc sense blur live wallpaper back!
And the flip clock should always flip and not occasionally.

I received my replacement one s due to call quality issues and the new one is even worse. everyone says i sound like im in a tin can as my voice is SUPER muffled. they can hear when i start and stop talking but the words just arent sharp enough to hear anything. wtf is going on with this phone?

This can be operator issue.

Yup I've had that too. I get it about every time that I call a new number. Completely muffled and can't hear other side. But that might just be me sincevI'm convinced that my phone is completely defective.
I've noticed that my phone lags in basic tasks that even my mytouch 4G handled smoothly. It'll even freeze halfway through a song quite often. Not sure what's going on but I've had major performance problems with my One S even after a full reboot.
My battery dies in about 10 hours of mostly being on standby. I go to school so I listen to music for about a total time of an hour and half throughout the day.
I turn my Internet off, wifi off and Google location services off and still the same result.
Battery settings says it's mostly using the screen even though it's off for about 85% of my use... Anyone else?
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The only thing that I can't complain about would be data speeds. I got 16mbps down last Friday night in Los Angeles. Pretty awesome.
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Yup I've had that too. I get it about every time that I call a new number. Completely muffled and can't hear other side. But that might just be me sincevI'm convinced that my phone is completely defective.
I've noticed that my phone lags in basic tasks that even my mytouch 4G handled smoothly. It'll even freeze halfway through a song quite often. Not sure what's going on but I've had major performance problems with my One S even after a full reboot.
My battery dies in about 10 hours of mostly being on standby. I go to school so I listen to music for about a total time of an hour and half throughout the day.
I turn my Internet off, wifi off and Google location services off and still the same result.
Battery settings says it's mostly using the screen even though it's off for about 85% of my use... Anyone else?
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I migrated over from a mt4g as well. The call quality on that thing was perfect. You might want to try and do an exchange on your one s because mine doesnt hang on basic tasks and ive been really surprised by the battery life in comparison to my mt4g. With some moderate morning use (some games, surfing, app downloads) and then forgetting to charge it afterwards my phone lasts on stand by from 9pm to 1pm the next day with some charge still left over. it sorta lags a tiny bit but nothing to complain about. the only game ive really played on it is temple run and it seems to glitch in the beginning a few times by freezing and continuing the game but it sort of fixes itself? My screen, like yours, is apparently always the culprit for battery time even though i have it set to auto brightness and have it so it turns off in 30 seconds.
the call quality is what i can't handle. this phone is great but if i can't make a phone call whats the point!? i'll be getting my 3rd replacement on monday =/

3rd? Wow. I had about 17 exchanges on the mytouch 4G (no joke) and was hoping that I wouldn't have to go through any on this phone. Was there anything special that you did with the phone? (ie charge before 1st use?). I'll probably just tell Tmo about the call quality and lag for them to exchange it. I hate that they won't take battery probs seriously and ask you to do a factory reset.
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3rd? Wow. I had about 17 exchanges on the mytouch 4G (no joke) and was hoping that I wouldn't have to go through any on this phone. Was there anything special that you did with the phone? (ie charge before 1st use?). I'll probably just tell Tmo about the call quality and lag for them to exchange it. I hate that they won't take battery probs seriously and ask you to do a factory reset.
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!! You sound like me. I lost count on how many returns I did on my mytouch4g. In fact... that's how I got my one s.
I b*tched and had so many returns they offered me whatever android I wanted (after threatening to cancel and not pay them sh*t and getting into an argument with their "customer loyalty" department when she tried to "upgrade" me by sending me a sidekick -_-) for free... so I waited until the release date of the one s and ordered it =3
Even though nothing too special must be done with these phones batteries I still let it get an entire charge before I started to play with it. The phone is perfect in every way and I honestly had no complaints until everyone I spoke to told me I sounded like I was muffled =/
My first phone - Everyone could hear me fine, i couldn't really hear them...everything was high pitched and muddy and buzzy sounding for me and it actually hurt my ears to talk to anyone
My second phone - The complete reverse. I can hear everyone fine but no one can hear me.
My third phone - I'll let you know... I'm stuck at work but I'll find out tonight.
(i still haven't sent any of my phones back in case todays phone is even worse.)
They don't take anything seriously -_- every time i call them I'm prepped for the argument because they never know wtf they're talking about. I always had to tell them "HEY...This is my 20th mytouch...CHECK MY ACCOUNT...(by then they just sit silently when they see i'm not lying)... i'm PRETTY SURE i know how to trouble shoot and reset my phone, no there isn't any water damage, so stop wasting my time and send me another phone so we can both get back to whatever the hell it was we were doing >_<" all of my rage.
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Received my phone and the call quality isn't 100% but its SUCH an improvement from my other two devices. I'm keeping this one. It'll do. I can hear everyone (not as great as on my mytouch4g) fairly well without any muffled sounds and they can actually understand everything I'm saying. Finally! Definitely try and return your OneS.... i know it's a pain in the ass but it's worth it in the end =/

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EDIT:
Received my phone and the call quality isn't 100% but its SUCH an improvement from my other two devices. I'm keeping this one. It'll do. I can hear everyone (not as great as on my mytouch4g) fairly well without any muffled sounds and they can actually understand everything I'm saying. Finally! Definitely try and return your OneS.... i know it's a pain in the ass but it's worth it in the end =/
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Haha yup I was offered a sidekick too! I will never know how in the world they find a sidekick a "comparable model" to the mytouch4g and not a Galaxy S 4g at least.
I called about an hour ago, they said my replacement will arrive on Wednesday. They charged me a $5 fee though. I'll definitely charge that one for at least 8 hours and hopefully get more than 4 hours of heavy use out of it.
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Haha yup I was offered a sidekick too! I will never know how in the world they find a sidekick a "comparable model" to the mytouch4g and not a Galaxy S 4g at least.
I called about an hour ago, they said my replacement will arrive on Wednesday. They charged me a $5 fee though. I'll definitely charge that one for at least 8 hours and hopefully get more than 4 hours of heavy use out of it.
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My first one i had to foot the $5 too, but the other two it was more of a "you guys f*cked this up" type situation so they didn't bill me anymore for returns. Good luck =)

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My first one i had to foot the $5 too, but the other two it was more of a "you guys f*cked this up" type situation so they didn't bill me anymore for returns. Good luck =)
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Well I got my replacement Wednesday. Charged it for 13 hours and still have insanely weak battery life. Apart from that, my phone rebooted once while on my pocket and being unused. Then it was lagging during browser use and rebooted again. I'm pretty ticked off considering my mytouch experience with T-Mobile and HTC. At this point I might just return the phone, reverse my upgrade and cancel in November when my contract is up and I could get a good black Friday deal on whatever new iPhone Apple offers by then.
-Rant Over-
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I have a normal quality whit stock rom. then i upgraded to maximushd and in call sound quality issues begin.
here is all i did, and no improvement until last step.
1. tried different radios. 1.13 and 1.15 and reflashing 1.20, no improvement
2. installed ElementalX 6.1 kernel and nothing
3. tried In-Call Quality Fix for Sense 5 here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482089
4. finally i tried flashing phone.apk from here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46945481&postcount=1844
after 2 days, it seems the problem is solved.