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Of all the released devices so far this year/end of last year, the Mate 8 is the only one that I might consider buy even tho the price is a bit too high for the performance (no 4k recording, only 1080p display and Kirin...).
The only thing holding me back is the lack of AOSP ROMs. Do you guys think there will be any ROMs close to vanilla or should I just wait for a better phone to be released?
display is one of THE best IPS displays around, u wont even notice that its 1080p. i know i dont
kirin 950 is on par with sd820 and exynos 8890, so...what about the performance? only area where its slower is graphics, thats it. cpu, ram, especially UI is on par if not better. lots of reports from users stating that mate 8 provides the smoothest day to day experience
also, what exactly do u hope to gain through an aosp rom? visually, u can change the stock roms to look like aosp, no problem. function range is also quite vast already at stock.
in the end, it always depends on whats really important to you:
mate 8 pros: brilliant display, super smooth UI, great sound, huge display size, looooong battery life
mate 8 cons: camera (according to other users, but i havent noticed anything bad), gpu performance (in benchmarks, still plays actual games smoothly)
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jbmc83 said:
display is one of THE best IPS displays around, u wont even notice that its 1080p. i know i dont
kirin 950 is on par with sd820 and exynos 8890, so...what about the performance? only area where its slower is graphics, thats it. cpu, ram, especially UI is on par if not better. lots of reports from users stating that mate 8 provides the smoothest day to day experience
also, what exactly do u hope to gain through an aosp rom? visually, u can change the stock roms to look like aosp, no problem. function range is also quite vast already at stock.
in the end, it always depends on whats really important to you:
mate 8 pros: brilliant display, super smooth UI, great sound, huge display size, looooong battery life
mate 8 cons: camera (according to other users, but i havent noticed anything bad), gpu performance (in benchmarks, still plays actual games smoothly)
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If you are playing around with VR, then 1008p is not the best resolution, rockording in 1080p is not as good as recording in 4k when you play around with motion tracking..
I don't care about the performance, the Kirin don't seems to be as developer friendly as SoCs from Qualcomm.
I like stock sense it's not bloated... and I like to have my devices for as long as possible and I don't think Huawei will keep updating the Mate 8 so long, that's a big reason I wan't AOSP ROMs early so it seems like the device have a bigger chance to be updated to the newest version of Android in a couple of years from now.
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If you are playing around with VR, then 1008p is not the best resolution, rockording in 1080p is not as good as recording in 4k when you play around with motion tracking..
I don't care about the performance, the Kirin don't seems to be as developer friendly as SoCs from Qualcomm.
I like stock sense it's not bloated... and I like to have my devices for as long as possible and I don't think Huawei will keep updating the Mate 8 so long, that's a big reason I wan't AOSP ROMs early so it seems like the device have a bigger chance to be updated to the newest version of Android in a couple of years from now.
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Simple: this device is not for you.
Problem solved :good:
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Simple: this device is not for you.
Problem solved :good:
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Not too be rude or anything but did you give your awnser based on that this device probably won't get an AOSP ROM or did you not read my first post where I said that I can overlook tha 1080p screen and lack of 4k recording?
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Not too be rude or anything but did you give your awnser based on that this device probably won't get an AOSP ROM or did you not read my first post where I said that I can overlook tha 1080p screen and lack of 4k recording?
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Simply look at the state of AOSP roms in the Mate 7 threads and there's your answer
Hi everyone
I wanna buy a new phone and the specs of Mi4c have catch me compared to it's price, but then there is many review that says it have a heating issue, so now i just wanna ask you as owners of this phone, do you advise me to buy it or to look for another model, i should mention that im not a gamer just from time to time on simple games, i use most this phone for social medias and video calls at skype.
thank you in advance for any help
I did take the plunge and so far i love it My findings:
Beware that mi4c is China only phone originally so don't expect Global MIUI ROM officially. you can try MIUI eu ROM or sMIUI as alternative but in general this phone will stuck with Android 5.1.1 officially, only the MIUI version is upped. the base OS is still the same Lollipop. the best way to enjoy Nougat is with CM but its Marshmallow CM experience is pretty much stable all around at this time of development.
No overheating so far, but then again i flashed into CM from the start so no MIUI for me.
The Rectangular design is Sony like so i love it (subjective ofc)
Great camera and screen quality.
Battery life is on par with any 3000mah flagship so no worries. (but then again i'm using CM here)
BUT..
If you value super battery life, but not great but above average camera and screen, you can grab the Redmi Note 3 (Snapdragon version) with roughly the same price. Plus the Global ROM availabilty is guaranteed for Xiaomi RN3. I personally take mi4c just because i like the design language plus the camera quality proven by GSMArena and others. So there you have it.
The fact it overheats compared to other phones is true, but only partly. Yes, it overheats, but it only does so on miui. I find, using any other custom rom based on aosp or cm, that the issue is completely gone. And when I overheats it really isn't that much of an issue in my experience.
If you ask me, you can't find a better 5"-5.2" phone under 200. If you value community support too it's basically an obligated choice as well.
The overheating isn´t gone with another Rom.
I tried every Rom and still have this problems (not as much as with miui, but still overheating), but with other Roms you could manage the throttling better. So you don´t have lags and freezes while gaming what is important, but for me it heats on 50-65+ on every Rom while play 3d games and rare throttling.
The problem is the 808 - 810 series. Every phone with this cpus overheats.
There is no overheating if you put the GPU and the BIG cores in powersave. You should get like 4-5 hours screen-on time and no performace issues. Also the battery should last 48h with normal use.
What you mean with "put the GPU and the BIG cores in powersave" ?
At least you have a 30k antutu device and i don´t believe that you can play 3d games well like that. Thats for sure not what the OP want.
I won´t say that the Mi4c is a bad device, price / performance is pretty good, but its not right there aren´t overheating problems. Everyone should now about that issue before he buy it and if i know before that i can just use 60-70 % of the performance i would looking for another device maybe (i tought there is more space above the 68k written in the test results like in every phone with another rom ...).
The best result i get was with RR 5.7.1 constant 55k antutu (heating about ~55°c). With some roms my phone throttle down to 30-40k and i had enormly problems to play NFS, fps 15 after 2-3 mins. With efficient mode i stuck at 45k or less.
For sure not every phone is same, what mean if you are lucky you couldn´t have overheating problems.
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What you mean with "put the GPU and the BIG cores in powersave" ?
At least you have a 30k antutu device and i don´t believe that you can play 3d games well like that. Thats for sure not what the OP want.
I won´t say that the Mi4c is a bad device, price / performance is pretty good, but its not right there aren´t overheating problems. Everyone should now about that issue before he buy it and if i know before that i can just use 60-70 % of the performance i would looking for another device maybe (i tought there is more space above the 68k written in the test results like in every phone with another rom ...).
The best result i get was with RR 5.7.1 constant 55k antutu (heating about ~55°c). With some roms my phone throttle down to 30-40k and i had enormly problems to play NFS, fps 15 after 2-3 mins. With efficient mode i stuck at 45k or less.
For sure not every phone is same, what mean if you are lucky you couldn´t have overheating problems.
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thank you for your answer but i just wanna know if it heat on normal usage, like social media, taking photos and skype video calls, cause the main reason i wanna buy this phone is the screen and the camera, i casualy play games and when i do, it just simple games like domino or guessing games.
Well, in your case no. You won´t have overheating problems just for social media etc. and very simple games.
But could be that you find a new game/app wich need performance then you could have. Future ! ;D.
BTW Vector 2 looks like a simple game, Pokemon Go looks like a simple game, a map with some stops but you would have overheating probs (resp. - i have - ~55°c). Just saying ;D.
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Well, in your case no. You won´t have overheating problems just for social media etc. and very simple games.
But could be that you find a new game/app wich need performance then you could have. Future ! ;D.
BTW Vector 2 looks like a simple game, Pokemon Go looks like a simple game, a map with some stops but you would have overheating probs (resp. - i have - ~55°c). Just saying ;D.
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thank you again, i will go for it, i was hesitating between this phone and redmi 3s
The main reason you shouldn't buy a redmi 3s is the well known bug that keeps the phone stuck on 2G in some occasions (you can read more on miui.com or here in xda).
@Danny94, that 55k antutu sounds low. And so does that cpu temperature you were talking about. I wouldn't rule out the possibility it's a defective unit, frankly. With all the roms I've used I've never gotten less than 65k and 72k with my current daily driver - TS CM13.
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What you mean with "put the GPU and the BIG cores in powersave" ?
At least you have a 30k antutu device and i don´t believe that you can play 3d games well like that. Thats for sure not what the OP want.
I won´t say that the Mi4c is a bad device, price / performance is pretty good, but its not right there aren´t overheating problems. Everyone should now about that issue before he buy it and if i know before that i can just use 60-70 % of the performance i would looking for another device maybe (i tought there is more space above the 68k written in the test results like in every phone with another rom ...).
The best result i get was with RR 5.7.1 constant 55k antutu (heating about ~55°c). With some roms my phone throttle down to 30-40k and i had enormly problems to play NFS, fps 15 after 2-3 mins. With efficient mode i stuck at 45k or less.
For sure not every phone is same, what mean if you are lucky you couldn´t have overheating problems.
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I had Z5 Premium before mi4c (don't ask why the downgrade) and it does overheat, causing a game like Horizon Chase to stutter after a while. None that i found with mi4c. so even if this phone CPU overheats in games, the impact isn't as pronounced compared to 810 powered phone. Yeah gaming is quite major part in smartphone but it's taken as an in-between activity so in pretty much all other activities, even 810 is still very good as i have used in Z5P and no complain generally.
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The main reason you shouldn't buy a redmi 3s is the well known bug that keeps the phone stuck on 2G in some occasions (you can read more on miui.com or here in xda).
@Danny94, that 55k antutu sounds low. And so does that cpu temperature you were talking about. I wouldn't rule out the possibility it's a defective unit, frankly. With all the roms I've used I've never gotten less than 65k and 72k with my current daily driver - TS CM13.
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last time i test i get around 69k, so pretty good actually.
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Hi everyone
I wanna buy a new phone and the specs of Mi4c have catch me compared to it's price, but then there is many review that says it have a heating issue, so now i just wanna ask you as owners of this phone, do you advise me to buy it or to look for another model, i should mention that im not a gamer just from time to time on simple games, i use most this phone for social medias and video calls at skype.
thank you in advance for any help
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You should look at Zuk Z2 (not pro) much better than mi4c
Guys i believe you to reach 69k ... on Antutu, but thats not a true value... I reach 69 k too on first time, you should try to test 5 times or more behind each other until your value doesn´t drop anymore. That was for me 55k on RR 5.7.1, with the most other Roms i was on 35k after 3-5 test.
The first test doesn´t have any sense on this cpu, because of the overheating -> throttle. Or does you play a game for only 3 minutes too ?
Yeah the Zuk Z2 looks great. I like 5" smartphones and at the moment the Zuk Z2 is the best in my opinion, the Rom should be bad, but there are for sure custom roms.
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You should look at Zuk Z2 (not pro) much better than mi4c
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thank you but zuk z2 is around 210$ while mi4c will cost me only 120$
I would go for Mi4S, it worth the upgrade IMO...
As i know the Mi4c has the same hardware like the Mi4s, just small things like fingerprint sensor, sd -slot, little bit more battery, but costs a lot more.
It really depends on the relative price of Mi 4c compared to other devices.
The only thing that makes Mi 4c stand out is its camera quality. It takes amazing photos (though the focus speed is average) and high quality 4k videos (though the lack of stabilization means you need very steady hands).
Performance of Mi 4c is good but it heats too much. Stand-by power consumption is too high (even when compared with nearly identical phones like Mi 4s).
I'm not sure what prices you can get, but in China you can get Mi 5 (3GB RAM, 32GB Storage) for USD250 through the official Mi shop. The Red Mi Note 3 and Note 4 offer metal body, fingerprint sensor, larger battery and similar performance. You can think about them as well. Note that the Red Mi series have noticeably worse camera than Mi 4c.
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thank you but zuk z2 is around 210$ while mi4c will cost me only 120$
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$120 for 16gb/2gb model?
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$120 for 16gb/2gb model?
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yeah at aliexpress; actually you can even get it at 109 usd if you are in a country that all sellers in aliexpress ship to
I would try to get at least the 32gb/3gb model
Below is the 3Dmark score while running on latset global beta. OP6 running on same specs performs better...and I expect poco to perform at same level. Its clear that MIUI is holding the phone back from achieving it's true potential when it comes to gaming. So just a request to custom rom devs not to overlook this.
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Below is the 3Dmark score while running on latset global beta. OP6 running on same specs performs better...and I expect poco to perform at same level. Its clear that MIUI is holding the phone back from achieving it's true potential when it comes to gaming. So just a request to custom rom devs not to overlook this.
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OK.
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Below is the 3Dmark score while running on latset global beta. OP6 running on same specs performs better...and I expect poco to perform at same level. Its clear that MIUI is holding the phone back from achieving it's true potential when it comes to gaming. So just a request to custom rom devs not to overlook this.
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i save almost 300 bucks from op6 , so i am not complaining , if can be improved ,its a plus
those are benchmarks though. you have to use both devices or ask someone who already has them about how they perform if you actually want to compare the "flagship gaming experience" feeling of using them. benchmarks are just numbers and wont give any score on actual real life usage, especially on devices with the same chipset.
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To be fair, I have to point out that I experience more hiccups on my F1 on MIUI 9 stable compared with my older Mi 5s on MIUI on latest beta. F1 is definitely better on the FPS department on gaming (very noticeably better) than my 5s, but hiccups or lagging while playing on long sessions on F1 is quite disturbing for me. The F1 definitely needs more stability updates.
*Games I'm referring to are Naruto Blazing, PUBG, and Mobile Legends.
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those are benchmarks though. you have to use both devices or ask someone who already has them about how they perform if you actually want to compare the "flagship gaming experience" feeling of using them. benchmarks are just numbers and wont give any score on actual real life usage, especially on devices with the same chipset.
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To be fair, I have to point out that I experience more hiccups on my F1 on MIUI 9 stable compared with my older Mi 5s on MIUI on latest beta. F1 is definitely better on the FPS department on gaming (very noticeably better) than my 5s, but hiccups or lagging while playing on long sessions on F1 is quite disturbing for me. The F1 definitely needs more stability updates.
*Games I'm referring to are Naruto Blazing, PUBG, and Mobile Legends.
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I have both poco f1 and op6.
Op6 is obviously best in all gaming experience.
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Below is the 3Dmark score while running on latset global beta. OP6 running on same specs performs better...and I expect poco to perform at same level. Its clear that MIUI is holding the phone back from achieving it's true potential when it comes to gaming. So just a request to custom rom devs not to overlook this.
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Benchmarks are NOT the proper way of determining gaming capabilities.
Yes, the OP6 performs better but that's because it has no bloatware installed on it. It has almost stock android with some fine tuning. MIUI is filled with crappy add-ons that do almost nothing good to device performance. I haven't checked the global 10 beta. Maybe it's better than the 9 or maybe not. If you want to have the top notch performance , just flash a custom ROM with a custom kernel but that too needs waiting as I'm not seeing great development here for our F1. So all we can do now is wait.
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Benchmarks are NOT the proper way of determining gaming capabilities.
Yes, the OP6 performs better but that's because it has no bloatware installed on it. It has almost stock android with some fine tuning. MIUI is filled with crappy add-ons that do almost nothing good to device performance. I haven't checked the global 10 beta. Maybe it's better than the 9 or maybe not. If you want to have the top notch performance , just flash a custom ROM with a custom kernel but that too needs waiting as I'm not seeing great development here for our F1. So all we can do now is wait.
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Yes I am hoping for a good rom too....with proper tuning this phone can perform so much better
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Yes I am hoping for a good rom too....with proper tuning this phone can perform so much better
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Sorry but no. You have no idea what you're talking about. Nobody knows, at this stage.
The GPU or RAM could be clocked slower in the Poco, for all we know.
If you expect the Poco to perform as good as a phone that is 2x the price then you are just setting yourself up for disappointment.
Also, Poco gets 286k score in Antutu. Which is the same as their chart listing for OnePlus 6. Not that benchmarks are 100% conclusive of performance, as already stated.
Continuing @CosmicDan , benchmark scores on MIUI10 are better than even the 1000$ flagships. Both graphics and storage, which are causing bottlenecks on MIUI9 are vastly improved on 10.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/how-to/graphics-storage-improvements-miui-10-t3841169
P.S. : 3DMark is still not running. That's the only thing that holding me back from liberty to the skepticism.
people for the love of god and for 10000th time...benchmarks are never a measure for the real life performance of the phone,its only theoretical of what it can do under control preset environment,only noobs believe and base their ideal phone performance base on benchmark apps!!!
Buy a OP6 .
Im good with F1, i dont play on smartphones.
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Sorry but no. You have no idea what you're talking about. Nobody knows, at this stage.
The GPU or RAM could be clocked slower in the Poco, for all we know.
If you expect the Poco to perform as good as a phone that is 2x the price then you are just setting yourself up for disappointment.
Also, Poco gets 286k score in Antutu. Which is the same as their chart listing for OnePlus 6. Not that benchmarks are 100% conclusive of performance, as already stated.
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And as you are saying benchmarks are unconclusive. Some Manufacturers chose to cheat on them, like we saw with the Huawei s boost of CPU performance on benchmark apps. The most representative benchmark would be one that the manufacturer didn't know about when they were optimising the device and writing algorithms for benchmark detection
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Below is the 3Dmark score while running on latset global beta. OP6 running on same specs performs better...and I expect poco to perform at same level. Its clear that MIUI is holding the phone back from achieving it's true potential when it comes to gaming. So just a request to custom rom devs not to overlook this.
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Forget the benchmarks and go check the FPS in games. You can do that with GLTools (root is required). It can also optimize games for better performance/better graphics. Even without the optimizations you will get 30 FPS in all games on max graphics and even 60 FPS in games that support high frame rate.
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Buy a OP6 .
Im good with F1, i dont play on smartphones.
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you do know op6 has high touch latency as well
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Below is the 3Dmark score while running on latset global beta. OP6 running on same specs performs better...and I expect poco to perform at same level. Its clear that MIUI is holding the phone back from achieving it's true potential when it comes to gaming. So just a request to custom rom devs not to overlook this.
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Seriously? people play games on phones ???
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Seriously? people play games on phones ???
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Ah, I wouldn't be so proud of ignorance. Mobile gaming is nothing to scoff at. It rivals that of consoles and PC from a financial POV. Last I checked it was ~40% of all gaming revenue - should approach 50% by 2019/20.
So there's a reason Tencent, EA, Gameloft, and various gacha devs love mobile...
To me, it comes as no surprise that people want to play games on the F1. Most people have phones, but not everyone has time to play in front of a TV or monitor.
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Seriously? people play games on phones ???
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I thought the same, until Bethesda announced Elder Scrolls Blades. Townsmen is pretty good too, if you like strategy games (doesn't need high specs though).
There's also great emulation potential, if you get a gamepad (iPega for example).
speaking of GL-Tools..
im quite annoyed when playung nba 2k18 on my F1.. it only gets about 30-40fps .. i used to enjoy playing it on my 5t,, which gets me to about 50-60fps with cloth sim, reflection and shadow all set to off,, the rest are all high...
tried this on poco f1,, 60fps on the first minute,, then going down and down to only 25-30fps on the 4th quarter.. tsk,, ive sold my sd 835 5T for this one,, and now am starting to feel sorry, tsk
anyways,, on emulator gaming such as PPSSPPP,, this one is superb
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Seriously? people play games on phones
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PSP,Nitendo GB Color, Advanced, etc have the same form factor as a mobile phone and were a lot famous during their time. If you really think phone is not for gaming, you are so naive.
Developers are shifting on to Android, not for fun but they are earning from it and their profit tells us how many people play game on phones.
Just like Consoles and PC's have their own advantage (although PC has more) similarly phones have some advantage too.
-The most important point being portability when you are on the move. You will say that gaming laptops have an advantage then do tell me for how much time can you run games on a laptop before reaching for charger and can your laptop be charged for like 4-5 times with a powerbank?
-Android is a more free market for games, remember how tellatale changed the story? (bad that it's now closed)
-PUBG did the same thing, it brought a whole new genre to handheld device.
-We are bound to get a lot of new games once the developers like Nitendo comes onboard (properly) maybe it will crash the market of handheld consoles or atleast will make the developers decrease the cost of handheld consoles.
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Seriously? people play games on phones
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Buys a phone designed for pure hardware prowess while cheaps out on all the rest features then wonders why ppl buy it. I know I shouldn't say it but you don't seem like a smart guy.
A meme would have described my feeling better the laugh I had reading this comment.
Can anyone make a kernel with overclock. It's probably the most reasonable device for OC because of large surface area, aluminum and proper cooling interface. But development is zero. I was running all cores in performance governor and it doesn't affect temperature or battery in noticeable way. I am sure it would be beneficial to OC. Is there an easy way to do it myself? After seeing that tab s7 is noticeably worse everywhere and overall: weight wise, battery, life screen, speakers and microphone it's obvious that there is no need to pay for downgrade. We can topple up our cpu close to 865 level which looks as mostly verison with higher clock.
That would be awesome, I guess eventually someone may develop something.
As with the latest commitment of Samsung to support 3 years of SW updates this machine suddenly became a lot more future proof than I expected so together with an optimized and oc'ed kernel that would be awesome.
Great stuff.
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As with the latest commitment of Samsung to support 3 years of SW updates this machine suddenly
Great stuff.
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oh really? that's great
and yeah i wonder why no one develop custom kernel for tab s6, and note 10 too with the same cpu, but there are kernels with others like one plus etc
I'm going for an upgrade.
Need help here guys. I am one of those who's suffering on their previous Poco F1 issues, ghost touch and hang just a couple of times this past years.
My main issue is the "touch reponse" always has the "DELAY" mix with screen freeze mostly triggered while gaming.
To those who already own it there:
• I'm just asking if their 240hz touch is TRUE and PRECISE, or too good to be true?
• Does it beats the other brands offering 90hz ref. rate / 120hz touch, 60hz ref. rate / 120hz touch in terms of gaming or not?
'Coz the phone price for the specs like the Poco F1 offers more bang in the buck rather than it's competitors, again I'm worried if the CUTS is on it's "touch reponse and screen issues again." Just don't want to lose money again on something not.
If not I'll just try other brand out there.
To answer both if your questions, it's yes to both.
I came from a Samsung Galaxy A71 which I paid WAY more for what it was worth and you get everything it says on the box.
120Hz is fluid and buttery smooth and touch response is lightning fast and precise, yes even in games.
Just be sure to download Arrow OS and use that because MIUI is filled to the brim with crap that will make your device very slightly sluggish.
I'd say each to their own. Go to a shop (if their open where you are) and try for yourself. If not then find one online with a good returns policy. Just as a side note my GF has an A71 and it is a way better phone overall. IMHO 60Hz Amoled beats this cheap 120Hz LCD (grey is my new black now lol). It's painful to look at, especially in low light environment. 240Hz touch responsiveness is just a number to me. Can't tell the difference. Then again it's a personal preference and I admit that I got this phone thanks to high numbers on the spec sheet for a low price.
Fellow Poco F1 user here.
Although the entire internet was plagued with problems with the F1, I however faced none of those. It does not mean your issues are invalid, but I'm just saying the group mentality made people believe their phone had issues that it never had. Things like Light Bleed and stuff were blown so much out of proportion that people actually recreated scenarios that they would never face normally just to make them feel bad about themselves. My Poco F1 is still an amazing phone and it also takes some of the best pictures with the right mods.
Back to the point, I see way too many AMOLED fan boys always claiming AMOLED is better even though they don't want to accept the draw backs or technical limitations. They see a phone selling AMOLED and immediately think it's better.
And back to the main main point...
240hz is hardly differential from nearer touch response rates and not even the most stock, unless the stock is absolutely garbage. On a phone, touch response hardly matters because there isn't enough IPC to make that response any worth it.
Summary :
Is Poco X3 truly responding to touch at 240HZ?
YES.
Will you notice the difference from a decent refresh rate from a modern phone and this phone which is so proud of its 240hz
NO
Enjoy your phone and don't fall into these technicalities. You're only putting your mind into this anxiety mode whether the purchase you made was worth it or not. This is a great phone and I love it and I've come from 1+, Samsung, Moto (Google owned Moto), Nexus and even Pixels.
Even when using an iOS device side by side, I can definitely feel there's a difference, it is certainly better.
But I'll talk about 2 issues first.
1. But sometimes, the touch doesn't work (like it needs grounding), like when my phone is lying flat on a certain bedsheet, I can't casually swipe, I need to hold it in my hand.
2. And long swipes need some polishing (software side) to be more natural, e.g. when u swipe up from launcher to open app drawer, u need to move ur thumb straight up, instead of slight natural diagonal movement else it may just swipe to next home screen or vice versa: opening app drawer instead of swiping to next screen. I come from color os, and it is certainly tuned to be more natural. (less feature rich than MIUI but better polished than other iOS inspired OEM skins)
Now pros:.
Touch responsiveness is way better than most android phones (I have used upto Samsung S10+ ceramic edition, oppo reno 3 pro) and iphone 8, X, XS series (before Apple fans flame, I'm talking just about responsiveness and accuracy).
You definitely feel it with gaming, no sensitivity settings is wrong (no aiming stutter or slip) infact it'll register the slightest movement and adjust your aim accordingly. Sometimes when my hands get sweaty I turn down the touch sensitivity in game space to 70 percent.
Yepi69 said:
To answer both if your questions, it's yes to both.
I came from a Samsung Galaxy A71 which I paid WAY more for what it was worth and you get everything it says on the box.
120Hz is fluid and buttery smooth and touch response is lightning fast and precise, yes even in games.
Just be sure to download Arrow OS and use that because MIUI is filled to the brim with crap that will make your device very slightly sluggish.
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Hey, just wanted to know a few things, animations and transitions are jittery for some apps in MIUI, since you suggested arrow OS, does that get rid of these jitter and animation lags? Or is it a bad chip (which i doubt)
Moreover, does Arrow OS use MI Camera? Since it has option to use all sensors, do we get that in arrow? How is overall smoothness and camera quality?
ramnoob said:
Hey, just wanted to know a few things, animations and transitions are jittery for some apps in MIUI, since you suggested arrow OS, does that get rid of these jitter and animation lags? Or is it a bad chip (which i doubt)
Moreover, does Arrow OS use MI Camera? Since it has option to use all sensors, do we get that in arrow? How is overall smoothness and camera quality?
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If you want jitter free experience, use ArrowOS + F1xy kernel.
F1xy custom kernel is focused to bring lower latency and reduce jitter as much as possible.
And no, ArrowOS doesn't use ANX Camera (Miui Camera). You need to flash it yourself.
crDroid comes with it if you want it.
I guess if you're here and changing from China spying crap rom and unlocking bl and bypassing ARP, no..
You will probably not find a better working drvier/setup for that if you install unofficial roms. Meaning you can expect lower performance on these pieces of hw. For the cpu, some unofficial roms can have better performance (not sure about camera and screen drivers, dependents if manufacturer releases src code).
SkaboXD said:
If you want jitter free experience, use ArrowOS + F1xy kernel.
F1xy custom kernel is focused to bring lower latency and reduce jitter as much as possible.
And no, ArrowOS doesn't use ANX Camera (Miui Camera). You need to flash it yourself.
crDroid comes with it if you want it.
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Thanks. I'll try it asap.
NiTrOwow said:
I guess if you're here and changing from China spying crap rom and unlocking bl and bypassing ARP, no..
You will probably not find a better working drvier/setup for that if you install unofficial roms. Meaning you can expect lower performance on these pieces of hw. For the cpu, some unofficial roms can have better performance (not sure about camera and screen drivers, dependents if manufacturer releases src code).
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That's a lie if I ever saw one, I have ArrowOS with it's stock kernel (using MIUI's kernel sources) and everything works better than stock rom. Not to mention devs can implement driver updates for Qualcomm/Adreno chipset (AKA CAF versions) which improve performance much better than Stock ROM (manufactures usually take months to implement new drivers, if they ever do).
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That's a lie if I ever saw one, I have ArrowOS with it's stock kernel (using MIUI's kernel sources) and everything works better than stock rom. Not to mention devs can implement driver updates for Qualcomm/Adreno chipset (AKA CAF versions) which improve performance much better than Stock ROM (manufactures usually take months to implement new drivers, if they ever do).
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Just to add that it's also dependable to skill of developers. We are covered here since we have so many talented developers, so you can except great ROM performance + battery life. Custom ROM experience is also dependable on quality of sources and Xiaomi is not the best in this regard compared to Google, but it gets the job done. Also good developers modify sources in a good way, which leds to improvement in source code.
All in all, good developer for the device can make custom ROM which performs much better than stock ROM. Especially MIUI.