Of all the released devices so far this year/end of last year, the Mate 8 is the only one that I might consider buy even tho the price is a bit too high for the performance (no 4k recording, only 1080p display and Kirin...).
The only thing holding me back is the lack of AOSP ROMs. Do you guys think there will be any ROMs close to vanilla or should I just wait for a better phone to be released?
display is one of THE best IPS displays around, u wont even notice that its 1080p. i know i dont
kirin 950 is on par with sd820 and exynos 8890, so...what about the performance? only area where its slower is graphics, thats it. cpu, ram, especially UI is on par if not better. lots of reports from users stating that mate 8 provides the smoothest day to day experience
also, what exactly do u hope to gain through an aosp rom? visually, u can change the stock roms to look like aosp, no problem. function range is also quite vast already at stock.
in the end, it always depends on whats really important to you:
mate 8 pros: brilliant display, super smooth UI, great sound, huge display size, looooong battery life
mate 8 cons: camera (according to other users, but i havent noticed anything bad), gpu performance (in benchmarks, still plays actual games smoothly)
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display is one of THE best IPS displays around, u wont even notice that its 1080p. i know i dont
kirin 950 is on par with sd820 and exynos 8890, so...what about the performance? only area where its slower is graphics, thats it. cpu, ram, especially UI is on par if not better. lots of reports from users stating that mate 8 provides the smoothest day to day experience
also, what exactly do u hope to gain through an aosp rom? visually, u can change the stock roms to look like aosp, no problem. function range is also quite vast already at stock.
in the end, it always depends on whats really important to you:
mate 8 pros: brilliant display, super smooth UI, great sound, huge display size, looooong battery life
mate 8 cons: camera (according to other users, but i havent noticed anything bad), gpu performance (in benchmarks, still plays actual games smoothly)
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If you are playing around with VR, then 1008p is not the best resolution, rockording in 1080p is not as good as recording in 4k when you play around with motion tracking..
I don't care about the performance, the Kirin don't seems to be as developer friendly as SoCs from Qualcomm.
I like stock sense it's not bloated... and I like to have my devices for as long as possible and I don't think Huawei will keep updating the Mate 8 so long, that's a big reason I wan't AOSP ROMs early so it seems like the device have a bigger chance to be updated to the newest version of Android in a couple of years from now.
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If you are playing around with VR, then 1008p is not the best resolution, rockording in 1080p is not as good as recording in 4k when you play around with motion tracking..
I don't care about the performance, the Kirin don't seems to be as developer friendly as SoCs from Qualcomm.
I like stock sense it's not bloated... and I like to have my devices for as long as possible and I don't think Huawei will keep updating the Mate 8 so long, that's a big reason I wan't AOSP ROMs early so it seems like the device have a bigger chance to be updated to the newest version of Android in a couple of years from now.
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Simple: this device is not for you.
Problem solved :good:
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Simple: this device is not for you.
Problem solved :good:
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Not too be rude or anything but did you give your awnser based on that this device probably won't get an AOSP ROM or did you not read my first post where I said that I can overlook tha 1080p screen and lack of 4k recording?
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Not too be rude or anything but did you give your awnser based on that this device probably won't get an AOSP ROM or did you not read my first post where I said that I can overlook tha 1080p screen and lack of 4k recording?
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Simply look at the state of AOSP roms in the Mate 7 threads and there's your answer
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Hy,i want to buy a new smartphone and i want some details about this one from someone who use it.Performance,battery,camera etc. Other sugestions too please. Max 450 euro. Thanks!
I will only list cons.
-Lack of 4k recording. Not a big deal for me
-Gpu is not good enough for upcoming graphic intensive games.Though, almost all games right now run max [email protected] just fine.
-By default, the screen calibration is very poor, too cold.
-Lack of custom roms. This is pretty subjective and may improve in a few months.
Pros? Any other than I listed above.
Fastest android phone when it comes to launching app speed.
Beatiful camera with nice features
Good battery life
And so on..
Recommended? Yes! This device is almost perfect.
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I will only list cons.
-Lack of 4k recording. Not a big deal for me
-Gpu is not good enough for upcoming graphic intensive games.Though, almost all games right now run max [email protected] just fine.
-By default, the screen calibration is very poor, too cold.
-Lack of custom roms. This is pretty subjective and may improve in a few months.
Pros? Any other than I listed above.
Fastest android phone when it comes to launching app speed.
Beatiful camera with nice features
Good battery life
And so on..
Recommended? Yes! This device is almost perfect.
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Thanks for reply,i dont care about 4k recording but i care about gpu...for now i still think that OnePlus 3t is best choice...
Gpu? Then get the oneplus 3/3t.
The cons I list is pretty much pros for oneplus 3/3t.
The GPU is the main drawback for me, but it hasn't been an issue really so far. The frame rate in Dragon Quest 8 isn't great. But I mostly play CPU heavy games (emulators) so it hasn't come up really.
I agree, GPU has never proven to be an issue for me either. I don't play too many games though.
Love this phone really, battery life, stability, design are all perfect.
I don't even mind EMUI that much
excellent device with awesome design,good specs and a descent camera
I would recommend it if you are not interested in rooting it and can live with the EMUI user interface that is very different from the stock Android user interface (I like it though). The Honor 8 has nice, powerfull hardware and a good design for a very reasonable price.
If, however, you intend to unlock/root your device, then I can not recommend it because it does not allow you to change the encryption password of the internal data partition. You will be stuck with a data partition readable to everyone who can get physical access to your device.
I sold my Oneplus 3, then bought the Honor 8. It was a very bad decision. I really miss the freedom, the OIS, the amoled screen, the really fast fingerprint sensor, etc.. IMO, I don't recommend the Honor 8, it has a terrible video quality, pretty bad GPU, the glass get scratched REALLY easily, especially the back. You should get the Oneplus 3t.
No Custom Rom, because Huawei/Honor. Enough said.
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No Custom Rom, because Huawei/Honor. Enough said.
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Unofficial CM13.1 beta is already available; I'm sure more will come.
The con, for me, is the weak glass backing. Scratches easily, likely shatters easily.
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No Custom Rom, because Huawei/Honor. Enough said.
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dont worry bro, unofficial cm13 has aldredy been released
no its sucks lol
OnePlus 3T / Honor 8 / Axon 7 - which is better?
I want strong battery and good camera.
Honor 8 have better camera than OP3T? good pictures on low light conditions?
what about development community?
1. The best phone is the one that suits your needs or most of them
2.There is no perfect phone hat you gain somewhere you lose elsewhere
3.There are a gazillion of reviews on youtube about the phones you want to check
4. The development for honor 8 is as you can see on roms,kernels section
I would choose between Honor 8 and OnePlus 3T. To be honest i wanted the OP3T very very much but i finished buying the H8.
If you want good 3D performance for gaming,decent camera and aluminium build go for OP3T.
If you want a fcking beautifull design,a very fast phone in daily use,decent camera but you dont play to much graphics intensive games go for H8.
I cant make a difference between this 2,both are amazing smarthones but let's say something more.
H8 is not a phone to throw,i think even a little drop would crack some glass and it's very very slippery. A case and a tempered glass is recommended. But we didnt forgot the OP3T ? Why i didnt get it ? Come one,on the site it's says "Delivered whithin 9 days"... I think they wanted to say 9 months but let's forget that. The other problem is that a lot of people are saying that is better to dont get a device with snappdragon 821 because drains battery faster. After all it's an amazing phone,but the kirin 950 runs faster than snap 821 in real test. The battery it's fine too,i get every time like 5-6h SoT and i'm ok with that. But i have only one problem with,the zoom,dont even think to take a photo or a video with zoom. I hope you understand what i tryed to say and i hope this will help you ðŸ‘
Btw,this phone worth buying.
Just go with the 3T if you want development and good camera
one plus has best support and community
But H8 have better camera than OP3T, No?
no customs roms for H8 and stock isnt very good..
OP3T get 8-9h SOT sometimes...
I dont know which is better to me.
I dont playing heavy games.
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But H8 have better camera than OP3T, No?
no customs roms for H8 and stock isnt very good..
OP3T get 8-9h SOT sometimes...
I dont know which is better to me.
I dont playing heavy games.
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If you can pay and wait months for the phone go get the OP3T.
I can't say which camera is better,you can look on youtube reviews.
Why wait months? 10 days delivery.
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Why wait months? 10 days delivery.
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Just go on their facebook page and see how lots of people are complaining about the delivery time. Some bought the phone in the first day of launch and they are still waiting for it.
This was a difficult choice for me as well. I had OnePlus in the past, one of the thing that annoyed me most them were various bugs in their firmware, although I can't comment how they are doing now with OxygenOS.
To me OnePlus 3T is overall a better device for consumption. Bigger AMOLED screen and very fast performance with lots of rams for both apps and games. Also lots of custom roms support.
In term of camera I think it depends on what you use it for. The 3T will clearly be better for video recording since it has 4K recording and OIS. Although it's 16MP front camera seems to be a downgrade compared the 8MP on the original 3, because of much smaller pixel size letting in less lights.
To me the Honor 8 is better for still shots because of the larger pixel size and the dual camera which really help with dynamics. The Honor 8 can decent photos late in the day and gets really sharp with macroshots.
I think you only pick the Honor 8 if you want specific things from it. Like the smaller size, microSD support and the good camera for photos, those were more important factors to me than performance. On the software size, Huawei have lots to improve, but Nougat version is coming out in Feb.
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But H8 have better camera than OP3T, No?
no customs roms for H8 and stock isnt very good..
OP3T get 8-9h SOT sometimes...
I dont know which is better to me.
I dont playing heavy games.
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So it's up to camera, both are good, but I'll go for the 3T if I shoot videos a lot
OP3T good camera?
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Yes
I like the Honor design and because it I want to buy this phone...
I dont know!!!
In my opinion the Honor 8 is an excellent phone. As said before there is always a trade off with any phones you'll ever consider. After having my Honor 8 for the past 2 months or so here are my impressions of it so far.
The camera on the Honor 8 is excellent for still photos and does fairly well in low light shots because of the monochrome sensor.
One concern I've seen many reviewers commenting on was the fact that the Honor 8 has a 1080p display. Even though it isn't 1440p the display is crisp and shows no pixelation. The screen on default color settings has a bit of a blue hue to it but that can easily be changed in the settings to a warmer more seemingly accurate color profile.
The Kirin processor is an excellent CPU, very efficient and performs well. The GPU will suffice for I'd probably 99% of the games available for Android. It also comes with a nice 4GB of RAM and I haven't had many issues with it needing to reload recently opened apps.
Although Huawei skinned Android with their EMUI it really isn't the worst UI I've seen on a phone. Though, if you do get the Honor 8 then I highly recommend updating to the Nougat beta. Now, one of the most impressive aspects of this phone however is the fingerprint scanner. It's one of the quickest and most accurate I've ever used. I don't think any phone that has a fingerprint scanner can compete with the Honor 8's.
My previous phone was a Galaxy S7 and one thing I have to say is that my S7 much like most Samsung phones in the past have so many gimmicky features that I find useless. Unlike the S7 though the Honor 8 in this aspect has a wide variety of actually useful features. One of those features is the Smart key which is a button apart of the fingerprint scanner. You can set it to open apps, turn on flashlight, camera, etc.
Overall, much like the vast majority of people who have bought the Honor 8 I'm extremely satisfied with the phone.
Honor 8 is cheaper too, you can get one for less than $300.
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On the software size, Huawei have lots to improve, but Nougat version is coming out in Feb.
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There is a way to upgrade to latest beta without any boot unlocking/rooting/wiping your data/etc.
Haven't encountered any issues on the beta and it's even more fluid, functional and beautiful than EMUI 4.1.
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I like the Honor design and because it I want to buy this phone...
I dont know!!!
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Tell me what do you want/priorities to have from your next phone!
Good camera
good battery
good build quality and good development.
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Good camera
good battery
good build quality and good development.
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Then go with the 3T, as honor 8 have poor development. (1+ released all the necessary files for the development of the 3T)
But Honor 8 is more beautiful and better camera...
So I'm having trouble deciding between the 6x and the 8. I'm coming from a Nextbit Robin with a Snapdragon 808 and 3GB of RAM. I use NFC to bump to my camera, but I can live without it if it saves me enough money.
I'm gathering that the 6X display isn't quite as nice as the honor 8's (density, lack of oleophobic, etc), but otherwise how is the performance and what made you pick the budget version over the more expensive "flagship" 8? I must admit, one of my big hesitations is EMUI- I'm a fan of stock Android, and many of my touchwiz etc devices have been flashed to CM/OmniRom/Lineage OS, etc to get the original Android feel back. Heck, even my Nextbit robin which is quite stock out of the box aside from a custom launcher, is now running OmniRom with more-or-less weekly updates that are surprisingly stable. Which of the two phones have more stock-like custom roms available?
I'd think the 8, but I'm seeing a lot of unfinished WIPs Anything stable enough for daily driver on the Honor or 6x?
Hi, the performance of this phone fits well with an high usage, i came from a dead S4 Mini on this phone due to the report price/quality and I'm very satisfied; it never gets hot, so the ram is well managed by the SoC and camera quality is awesome, for example; the only thing that suffers on devices with Huawei's Kirin processors, for as much they can handle the phone well, is a strong development community behind. We have a team working on custom Roms, but as you could imagine it can't be compared to the strength of devices powered by Qualcomm's Snapdragon processors, wide open to third-party development, and so supported by many more teams of developers. Huawei released sources for Honor 8 and 6X too, but there are still some known bugs on cooked roms; like the possibility to use the stock Huawei camera app, that gives his best on pictures results. Or HwComposer bug, that have an impact on UI performances making it laggy. Looks like other developers aren't interested in working with Kirin processors at the moment. Aside this, i dunno if custom ROMs situation at the moment is better on 6X or 8 because i own a 6X and i know a few about honor 8, but not the state of rom development. It should be better on 8 at the moment if I'm not wrong, but bugs mentioned above are still present. If you mind to have a strong mid-range phone at a good price, go for 6X. If you want some more, go for 8
Yeah, the unique dual-sensor camera is something I'm concerned about as I'm sure that isn't even close to standardized, so I was thinking it would probably only work properly on the original factory firmware. Camera is a pretty significant part of the decision process on this phone, so having to choose between clean Google UI without any unexpected quirks (I've heard about EMUI's power management aggressively closing background apps among other things), or having that beautiful camera work properly.
With all due respect, coming from the S4 Mini this must have been a huge upgrade for you! The s4 mini didn't even have 2GB of ram if I recall correctly, and very underpowered dual core CPU. I'm coming from a Snapdragon flagship-class chip with 3GB.
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I agree with you, to me camera is an important thing too to keep in mind while choosing a device. Here surely you wouldn't make a wrong step, I am very satisfied by the camera that this phone is carrying with him. EMUI's background killer instinct is adjustable however it let you choose which apps kill or not, something similar to Greenify.
Regarding my old Sammy, it's bad that it just hard-broke one day from another due to a simple call received. I answered, and then it suddenly shut off... Forever. I've tried a lot of stuff, nothing worked. It's a stone now. I'm sure that this is exactly a programmed obsolescence by Samsung, especially after the hundreds, or better, thousands of help threads that I've seen appearing both on XDA and other tech forums in the same splice of time. You're right it had 1,5GB of ram, it has been a great jump of performances indeed. Which phone you have anyway?
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I agree with you, to me camera is an important thing too to keep in mind while choosing a device. Here surely you wouldn't make a wrong step, I am very satisfied by the camera that this phone is carrying with him. EMUI's background killer instinct is adjustable however it let you choose which apps kill or not, something similar to Greenify.
Regarding my old Sammy, it's bad that it just hard-broke one day from another due to a simple call received. I answered, and then it suddenly shut off... Forever. I've tried a lot of stuff, nothing worked. It's a stone now. I'm sure that this is exactly a programmed obsolescence by Samsung, especially after the hundreds, or better, thousands of help threads that I've seen appearing both on XDA and other tech forums in the same splice of time. You're right it had 1,5GB of ram, it has been a great jump of performances indeed. Which phone you have anyway?
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I'm using a P8 Lite 2017, and the 12MP camera is amazing, so I can only imagine the Honor 6X is even better. I came from a Galaxy Note 4 (Snapdragon 805 and 3GB RAM) and I can assure you that the Kirin 655 is well optimized. I'd say go for the 6X and have money to spare. You won't be disappointed
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I'm using a P8 Lite 2017, and the 12MP camera is amazing, so I can only imagine the Honor 6X is even better. I came from a Galaxy Note 4 (Snapdragon 805 and 3GB RAM) and I can assure you that the Kirin 655 is well optimized. I'd say go for the 6X and have money to spare. You won't be disappointed
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Shoots awesome pictures, it just lose some points on photos with low light. Details are wonderful! The Kirin handles the phone in an excellent manner. The really weak point is development community
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Shoots awesome pictures, it just lose some points on photos with low light. Details are wonderful! The Kirin handles the phone in an excellent manner. The really weak point is development community
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I agree completely. Fingers crossed that our devices receive Android 8
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I agree completely. Fingers crossed that our devices receive Android 8
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Fingers crossed that the Oreo-EMUI fusion won't be worst than Nougat, more than everything battery performance was way better optimized on Marshmallow than on Nougat... Because if Huawei fails on this, i prefer to remain on Nougat
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Fingers crossed that the Oreo-EMUI fusion won't be worst than Nougat, more than everything battery performance was way better optimized on Marshmallow than on Nougat... Because if Huawei fails on this, i prefer to remain on Nougat
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I find battery life with the 3000mah battery in my P8 Lite 2017 mediocre. The phone shipped with Nougat out of the box so I don't have experience with the Kirin 655 on Marshmallow. However, my Huawei P8 had great battery life on Marshmallow even though it used a power hungry Kirin 930 and had a substantially smaller battery. Nougat and EMUI 5 is brilliant however as it has the app drawer option finally available. I also like the quick toggles and notification shade. I wish we had the transparent notification shade and more gestures like the high end devices. Rooting is very risky at the moment as there is too many steps. It's disappointing that the UI elements were disabled in the software
What is the price difference between these two models on your region. That is also one of the biggest factor for comparison.
Camera - is better on 8 and does well woth same MP of pixels for rear cam amd performs well in low light as well. With that said, 6X is definitely not a bad option for camwra, it does well dor sure.
Battery -better on 6X, i think, with 3340 mAh but as honor 8 has a smalled screen, it may be neck to neck here.
Design- both has it own cons and pros. 8 is simply awesome in blue but with glass design you may need to be careful as it may be slippery. On the other hand, 6X looks stunning in metal body but camera bump is bad and could be damagee easily if not managed. Design wise, 8 is better on any day.
Custom rom development- 8 has got many roms than 6X and i dont we may see much here for 6X.
Android O update- not officially disclosed but 8 will get (99.99%) and there are lot of confusion on 6X update but it should get (99.98% LOL).
Screen size- 5.2 of Honor 8 is much handy and easily carried in pocket than 6X but if you dont have issues with 5.5 inch screen.
Dual sim- your region may not have dual sim support (Indian variant has this issue)
Honor 8 was a upper mid range flagship level phone and 6X is excellent mid range model.
Rest your choice :good:
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I find battery life with the 3000mah battery in my P8 Lite 2017 mediocre. The phone shipped with Nougat out of the box so I don't have experience with the Kirin 655 on Marshmallow. However, my Huawei P8 had great battery life on Marshmallow even though it used a power hungry Kirin 930 and had a substantially smaller battery. Nougat and EMUI 5 is brilliant however as it has the app drawer option finally available. I also like the quick toggles and notification shade. I wish we had the transparent notification shade and more gestures like the high end devices. Rooting is very risky at the moment as there is too many steps. It's disappointing that the UI elements were disabled in the software
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I agree, the drawer is way better, using a launcher could help even if this wouldn't happened already with the upgrade to EMUI 5 but giving the chance to the user to choose the home style is a must. For transparent notification menu, there's a voice in the local.prop file in root/system/emui/lite/prop that with a little change of a Boolean value from true to false, gives transparent notification panel and enables the camera to shoot raw pictures (if didn't enabled already by default), but could have an impact on UI with some lags while scrolling. I had rooted my phone 3 weeks after that i bought it and even if harder than other phones, it was essential to enable an adblock and another feature not available by default on all 6X models, it's the call record feature. Some countries have it enabled from beginning, other not because more restrictive in privacy laws. But here on XDA i found everything that was necessary to do it
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What is the price difference between these two models on your region. That is also one of the biggest factor for comparison.
Camera - is better on 8 and does well woth same MP of pixels for rear cam amd performs well in low light as well. With that said, 6X is definitely not a bad option for camwra, it does well dor sure.
Battery -better on 6X, i think, with 3340 mAh but as honor 8 has a smalled screen, it may be neck to neck here.
Design- both has it own cons and pros. 8 is simply awesome in blue but with glass design you may need to be careful as it may be slippery. On the other hand, 6X looks stunning in metal body but camera bump is bad and could be damagee easily if not managed. Design wise, 8 is better on any day.
Custom rom development- 8 has got many roms than 6X and i dont we may see much here for 6X.
Android O update- not officially disclosed but 8 will get (99.99%) and there are lot of confusion on 6X update but it should get (99.98% LOL).
Screen size- 5.2 of Honor 8 is much handy and easily carried in pocket than 6X but if you dont have issues with 5.5 inch screen.
Dual sim- your region may not have dual sim support (Indian variant has this issue)
Honor 8 was a upper mid range flagship level phone and 6X is excellent mid range model.
Rest your choice :good:
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By the time Honor 8 was released, it was a high end flagship level phone. But since OEMs are very quick, it is considered as mid-range now.
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Below is the 3Dmark score while running on latset global beta. OP6 running on same specs performs better...and I expect poco to perform at same level. Its clear that MIUI is holding the phone back from achieving it's true potential when it comes to gaming. So just a request to custom rom devs not to overlook this.
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Below is the 3Dmark score while running on latset global beta. OP6 running on same specs performs better...and I expect poco to perform at same level. Its clear that MIUI is holding the phone back from achieving it's true potential when it comes to gaming. So just a request to custom rom devs not to overlook this.
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OK.
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Below is the 3Dmark score while running on latset global beta. OP6 running on same specs performs better...and I expect poco to perform at same level. Its clear that MIUI is holding the phone back from achieving it's true potential when it comes to gaming. So just a request to custom rom devs not to overlook this.
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i save almost 300 bucks from op6 , so i am not complaining , if can be improved ,its a plus
those are benchmarks though. you have to use both devices or ask someone who already has them about how they perform if you actually want to compare the "flagship gaming experience" feeling of using them. benchmarks are just numbers and wont give any score on actual real life usage, especially on devices with the same chipset.
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To be fair, I have to point out that I experience more hiccups on my F1 on MIUI 9 stable compared with my older Mi 5s on MIUI on latest beta. F1 is definitely better on the FPS department on gaming (very noticeably better) than my 5s, but hiccups or lagging while playing on long sessions on F1 is quite disturbing for me. The F1 definitely needs more stability updates.
*Games I'm referring to are Naruto Blazing, PUBG, and Mobile Legends.
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those are benchmarks though. you have to use both devices or ask someone who already has them about how they perform if you actually want to compare the "flagship gaming experience" feeling of using them. benchmarks are just numbers and wont give any score on actual real life usage, especially on devices with the same chipset.
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To be fair, I have to point out that I experience more hiccups on my F1 on MIUI 9 stable compared with my older Mi 5s on MIUI on latest beta. F1 is definitely better on the FPS department on gaming (very noticeably better) than my 5s, but hiccups or lagging while playing on long sessions on F1 is quite disturbing for me. The F1 definitely needs more stability updates.
*Games I'm referring to are Naruto Blazing, PUBG, and Mobile Legends.
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I have both poco f1 and op6.
Op6 is obviously best in all gaming experience.
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Below is the 3Dmark score while running on latset global beta. OP6 running on same specs performs better...and I expect poco to perform at same level. Its clear that MIUI is holding the phone back from achieving it's true potential when it comes to gaming. So just a request to custom rom devs not to overlook this.
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Benchmarks are NOT the proper way of determining gaming capabilities.
Yes, the OP6 performs better but that's because it has no bloatware installed on it. It has almost stock android with some fine tuning. MIUI is filled with crappy add-ons that do almost nothing good to device performance. I haven't checked the global 10 beta. Maybe it's better than the 9 or maybe not. If you want to have the top notch performance , just flash a custom ROM with a custom kernel but that too needs waiting as I'm not seeing great development here for our F1. So all we can do now is wait.
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Benchmarks are NOT the proper way of determining gaming capabilities.
Yes, the OP6 performs better but that's because it has no bloatware installed on it. It has almost stock android with some fine tuning. MIUI is filled with crappy add-ons that do almost nothing good to device performance. I haven't checked the global 10 beta. Maybe it's better than the 9 or maybe not. If you want to have the top notch performance , just flash a custom ROM with a custom kernel but that too needs waiting as I'm not seeing great development here for our F1. So all we can do now is wait.
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Yes I am hoping for a good rom too....with proper tuning this phone can perform so much better
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Yes I am hoping for a good rom too....with proper tuning this phone can perform so much better
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Sorry but no. You have no idea what you're talking about. Nobody knows, at this stage.
The GPU or RAM could be clocked slower in the Poco, for all we know.
If you expect the Poco to perform as good as a phone that is 2x the price then you are just setting yourself up for disappointment.
Also, Poco gets 286k score in Antutu. Which is the same as their chart listing for OnePlus 6. Not that benchmarks are 100% conclusive of performance, as already stated.
Continuing @CosmicDan , benchmark scores on MIUI10 are better than even the 1000$ flagships. Both graphics and storage, which are causing bottlenecks on MIUI9 are vastly improved on 10.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/how-to/graphics-storage-improvements-miui-10-t3841169
P.S. : 3DMark is still not running. That's the only thing that holding me back from liberty to the skepticism.
people for the love of god and for 10000th time...benchmarks are never a measure for the real life performance of the phone,its only theoretical of what it can do under control preset environment,only noobs believe and base their ideal phone performance base on benchmark apps!!!
Buy a OP6 .
Im good with F1, i dont play on smartphones.
CosmicDan said:
Sorry but no. You have no idea what you're talking about. Nobody knows, at this stage.
The GPU or RAM could be clocked slower in the Poco, for all we know.
If you expect the Poco to perform as good as a phone that is 2x the price then you are just setting yourself up for disappointment.
Also, Poco gets 286k score in Antutu. Which is the same as their chart listing for OnePlus 6. Not that benchmarks are 100% conclusive of performance, as already stated.
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And as you are saying benchmarks are unconclusive. Some Manufacturers chose to cheat on them, like we saw with the Huawei s boost of CPU performance on benchmark apps. The most representative benchmark would be one that the manufacturer didn't know about when they were optimising the device and writing algorithms for benchmark detection
Distrackto said:
Below is the 3Dmark score while running on latset global beta. OP6 running on same specs performs better...and I expect poco to perform at same level. Its clear that MIUI is holding the phone back from achieving it's true potential when it comes to gaming. So just a request to custom rom devs not to overlook this.
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Forget the benchmarks and go check the FPS in games. You can do that with GLTools (root is required). It can also optimize games for better performance/better graphics. Even without the optimizations you will get 30 FPS in all games on max graphics and even 60 FPS in games that support high frame rate.
pack21 said:
Buy a OP6 .
Im good with F1, i dont play on smartphones.
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you do know op6 has high touch latency as well
Distrackto said:
Below is the 3Dmark score while running on latset global beta. OP6 running on same specs performs better...and I expect poco to perform at same level. Its clear that MIUI is holding the phone back from achieving it's true potential when it comes to gaming. So just a request to custom rom devs not to overlook this.
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Seriously? people play games on phones ???
amitkuliyal said:
Seriously? people play games on phones ???
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Ah, I wouldn't be so proud of ignorance. Mobile gaming is nothing to scoff at. It rivals that of consoles and PC from a financial POV. Last I checked it was ~40% of all gaming revenue - should approach 50% by 2019/20.
So there's a reason Tencent, EA, Gameloft, and various gacha devs love mobile...
To me, it comes as no surprise that people want to play games on the F1. Most people have phones, but not everyone has time to play in front of a TV or monitor.
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Seriously? people play games on phones ???
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I thought the same, until Bethesda announced Elder Scrolls Blades. Townsmen is pretty good too, if you like strategy games (doesn't need high specs though).
There's also great emulation potential, if you get a gamepad (iPega for example).
speaking of GL-Tools..
im quite annoyed when playung nba 2k18 on my F1.. it only gets about 30-40fps .. i used to enjoy playing it on my 5t,, which gets me to about 50-60fps with cloth sim, reflection and shadow all set to off,, the rest are all high...
tried this on poco f1,, 60fps on the first minute,, then going down and down to only 25-30fps on the 4th quarter.. tsk,, ive sold my sd 835 5T for this one,, and now am starting to feel sorry, tsk
anyways,, on emulator gaming such as PPSSPPP,, this one is superb
amitkuliyal said:
Seriously? people play games on phones
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PSP,Nitendo GB Color, Advanced, etc have the same form factor as a mobile phone and were a lot famous during their time. If you really think phone is not for gaming, you are so naive.
Developers are shifting on to Android, not for fun but they are earning from it and their profit tells us how many people play game on phones.
Just like Consoles and PC's have their own advantage (although PC has more) similarly phones have some advantage too.
-The most important point being portability when you are on the move. You will say that gaming laptops have an advantage then do tell me for how much time can you run games on a laptop before reaching for charger and can your laptop be charged for like 4-5 times with a powerbank?
-Android is a more free market for games, remember how tellatale changed the story? (bad that it's now closed)
-PUBG did the same thing, it brought a whole new genre to handheld device.
-We are bound to get a lot of new games once the developers like Nitendo comes onboard (properly) maybe it will crash the market of handheld consoles or atleast will make the developers decrease the cost of handheld consoles.
amitkuliyal said:
Seriously? people play games on phones
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Buys a phone designed for pure hardware prowess while cheaps out on all the rest features then wonders why ppl buy it. I know I shouldn't say it but you don't seem like a smart guy.
A meme would have described my feeling better the laugh I had reading this comment.
Do you think it is still a good device in 2022 as camera phone and overall usability?
What about Camera optimization and any ui bugs?
xwonic said:
Do you think it is still a good device in 2022 as camera phone and overall usability?
What about Camera optimization and any ui bugs?
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Well, camera set is really good for this price range, but the SoC... sucks. It's too weak especially for the main sensor plus MIUI is heavy skin tending to lag. So if you're going to use the device extensively, expect that performace will decrease.
There are two/three custom ROMs available and they are much more responsive, but they all struggle with the cameras.
Lord Sithek said:
Well, camera set is really good for this price range, but the SoC... sucks. It's too weak especially for the main sensor plus MIUI is heavy skin tending to lag. So if you're going to use the device extensively, expect that performace will decrease.
There are two/three custom ROMs available and they are much more responsive, but they all struggle with the cameras.
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Thanks that's exactly the anwser i was looking for, performance. Saying that, also makes me want to avoid Oppo Reno 2 as alternative.
I use it every day and I like it. Still good photos, yeah CPU is older, but other function is still good. But when you flash MUI EU Rom, phone will be better.
I mostly like mine, running the default MIUI and the Pixel camera. I do not think there is any better camera system out on the market... certainly not at this price point. Together with Gcam the results are great, even if you need to be patient. Easily better than a Samsung S20+ for example, but I doubt newer models will be better, unless you maybe go for the highest end phones, those costing 1000 Euro or more.
Avoid the non-pro version, having more RAM and memory is worth it (each photo takes up 50+ MB for the raw plus an additional 10-20 MB for the JPEG, so.... yeah!).
Performance is generally fine... sometimes it is sluggish, most of the time it's just not as snappy as some other phones, but in no way unbearable. And don't expect to be shooting 10 photos in a row. Processing them takes a while.
You could consider the Mi 10 Pro, which IIRC is very similar, except for a much faster CPU.
Also, try to avoid MIUI 13. It sucks. Bluetooth is quite broken, amongst other issues.
kadajawi said:
I mostly like mine, running the default MIUI and the Pixel camera. I do not think there is any better camera system out on the market... certainly not at this price point. Together with Gcam the results are great, even if you need to be patient. Easily better than a Samsung S20+ for example, but I doubt newer models will be better, unless you maybe go for the highest end phones, those costing 1000 Euro or more.
Avoid the non-pro version, having more RAM and memory is worth it (each photo takes up 50+ MB for the raw plus an additional 10-20 MB for the JPEG, so.... yeah!).
Performance is generally fine... sometimes it is sluggish, most of the time it's just not as snappy as some other phones, but in no way unbearable. And don't expect to be shooting 10 photos in a row. Processing them takes a while.
You could consider the Mi 10 Pro, which IIRC is very similar, except for a much faster CPU.
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Problem is, the PROs camera is broken on the few devices I've seen, renders blurry and hazy pictures, so it's a gamble.
Your's doesn't have the same problem?
kadajawi said:
Also, try to avoid MIUI 13. It sucks. Bluetooth is quite broken, amongst other issues.
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I'm still on MIUI 12
I was being tempted to try 12.5 or maybe 13
Maybe I should stay away