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the stock HTC G2 1300MAH Battery is
4.46mmx64.68mmx43.87mm
(all measurements were done by me)
the red CHICHITEC battery, unmodified is
5.09mmx64.7mmx44.08mm
so, were doing good with the exception of being .63mm too large (.025 Inches)
and we have a big difference in the tab design between the two batteries.
fortunately, fixing the tab issue is very easy. just get some nail clippers and cut the tabs off on both sides so they look like this.
(bottom battery obviously...)
so at this point the battery will physically fit and turn on. you should verify the battery will work at this point before you spend too much time modifying it since we're dealing with cheap chinese cells here.
but, do NOT attempt to close the battery door. it's not even close and you'll mess something up.
so the easy first thing to do is take the red sticker off of the battery. this gets our dimensions down to
4.8mmx64.7mmx43.76mm
(here is the PN for reference if anyone needs it, the 1550 at the end leads me to believe this is actually a 1550MAH battery. but who knows)
now the difference in thickness is only a mere .34mm (.013 inches)
the good news is at this point if your using a case your done. the battery cover will fit, albeit poorly.
looks pretty terrible right? yeah i thought so too. for reference here is the phone with no battery in it (looks the same with the stock battery as well)
Chasing perfection
so, you're a manly man and cant be bothered with girly cases and like to live dangerously right? in that case the battery fitment depicted above probably doesn't have you too excited. you can feel it very easily with your fingers and it will drive you insane. so it's time to break out the sandpaper.
i started with 220grit paper and worked my way up to 600 grit to get a nice smooth finish.
this brought our dimensions down to
4.75mmx64.7mmx43.76mm. now were only .29mm (.011 inches) away from perfection and the battery fits much better.
when your sanding be sure to avoid concentrating on one spot for too long and try to use your whole hand to apply pressure to the paper and not just one finger to avoid any high/low spots in the cell.
depending on your battery you may need to sand the plastic on both sides to make sure it's flush with the metal part of the cell, one of mine needed it on the top/bottom. one didnt. so just use your eyes. also note that when i sanded the battery i only sanded the top (the side you see with the cell in the phone) you have the option of doing both sides. but i do not feel it is necessary (with the exception of cleaning up the plastic)
i actually went back over the battery after this picture alittle more aggressively and got the thickness down to
4.68mmx64.7mmx43.76mm only .22mm thicker. or about the thickness of 2 piece of paper.
at that point you really cannot tell the difference between stock and the CHICHITEC cell. so i didnt bother to take any photos.
things to keep in mind.
you need to put a piece of scotch tape between the battery and the MicroSD card cage to prevent shorting.
if you are rooted be sure to go into recovery>advanced and wipe battery stats. my cells wouldnt show 100% charged until i did so. and expect the battery gauge to be inaccurate for the first charge. mine stayed at 100% for around 2 hours of use and suddenly dropped 15%. dont spaz out when you see this happen, it will correct itself after the first charge-discharge cycle (run it till the phone shuts off)
Very nice how to
Nice camera work! How long have you had your phone?
This tutorial makes me that much more happy that my chi-chis are coming in the mail.
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Nice camera work! How long have you had your phone?
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Thanks for the complement!
And I got the phone on january 27th. All of the marks around the metal bezel are from the stamping process. They just look real bad at this scale. You should see the original 4000X3000 photos! LOL
Battery life has been fantastic so far. 7 hours and 35 minutes of nonstop use. Before dying on the first charge. Last 2 hours were with pandora,meebo and quadrant running in loops to kill the battery for calibration. Running Gingervillian 1.5 with a 1.401GHz OC
Wow that worked great. The bulge on my phone went away with additional sanding. Thanks for the guide.
Sanded two yesterday thanks to this guide. I almost missed the important note about possible shorting on the SD Chassis.
On the second battery, I started with a file to speed things up a bit. I particularly focused on the edge closest to where the potential cover gap lives.
I had the grades of sandpaper handy. They were leftover from about 10 years ago when I was sanding the top of a duron 700 processor and the bottom of a heatsink in prep for overclocking to 1000.
hey everybody be careful, the new ones that are shipped by this seller are very different, the main difference is there is now a plastic frame around the cells, so the sides are no more rounded but squared, the battery seems thicker, it's a lot more difficult to make it fit;
Also when you take off the red sheets, the frame is no more attached to the cell.
The frame is even bigger than the cell, so they glued a little foam on one side( which i took off before sanding)
you have to file out a lot off the plastic frame
on the last picture, you can see a circuit board written "touch pro 2", if it is a normal TP2 battery then this is 1500 and not 1800...
Alo the plastic frame is not rigid, very flexible making it difficult to file... finally i used an electrical sharpener
It was really a bad surprise, so i wanted to warn you
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hey everybody be careful, the new ones that are shipped by this seller are very different, the main difference is there is now a plastic frame around the cells, so the sides are no more rounded but squared, the battery seems thicker, it's a lot more difficult to make it fit;
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This is the one that messed up my phone.
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12588428&postcount=38
If it doesn't fit perfectly, don't try!
Yeah i saw your post on the other thread, i still use it for now just to check the capacity, i'm on the second charging cycle and for now it's not lasting much more than the stock; i'll let a few more cycles to pass, but i've already decided to buy one that fits, seidio or mugen, although i do not face the same gps issues as you (I pretty much cut off half of the plastic frame with my electric "friend" above, i couldn't reach a perfect fit, but i dont have to push hard to close the cover)
I bought the Mugen 1800 that's actually made for the phone, ChiChi tried to rip me off and I'll never buy from them again. If you do buy these red batteries from them I hope you like them, because it's basically impossible to return anything to ChiChitec.
I have two of these batteries (and my wife and I both have G2s) but we have both stopped using them because the phones lock up with them in. With the stock battery I don't have any problems, with with these, pretty much every time I pull my phone out of my pocket it is non-responsive and I need to pull the battery to restart it. I figured it was shorting against something and I covered over the sd card area with some electrical tape, but the problem keeps happening. I've gone back to the stock battery because my phone is just too unreliable with it in there.
I thougght the chichitec is 1900mah and doesn't need a mod? The one on amazon 2 batteries and charger for $30 from seller CHICHITEC
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I thougght the chichitec is 1900mah and doesn't need a mod? The one on amazon 2 batteries and charger for $30 from seller CHICHITEC
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link? more than likely it will require modification.
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...although i do not face the same gps issues as you (I pretty much cut off half of the plastic frame with my electric "friend" above, i couldn't reach a perfect fit, but i dont have to push hard to close the cover)
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The problem wasn't caused by the plastic part but the actual metal cell.
I never had to push hard to close it but it still caused the problem even after the lid would already rest on the plastic latches.
In the end I managed to sand it down far enough (while constantly fearing the battery would burst into flames) to get it working.
I now get around 24 hours when not using the phone too much so I also bought a 3500mAh extended battery from DX for use when I'm travelling.
I cut the corner of the battery and now there a tiny hole in the plastic, this happened on both sides.
Do you think I just ruined the battery? or am I okay?
Also, I did not sand the battery that much and I think it closes fine...it not flush but is that going to cause any problems as well? I started to sand it but the metal powder stated to irritate and stopped.
So what kind of life should one expect about of these *1500* mah chichitecs? 20 hours? Light/Moderate use.
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So what kind of life should one expect about of these *1500* mah chichitecs? 20 hours? Light/Moderate use.
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More than that. With strong moderate to light heavy use I would remove from charger at 830 and have around 35% at 11pm. On light use days I have seen around or close to 60% or so in the same time frame. That was running cm7, gps and wifi and 4G always on.
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jaytxvo said:
I cut the corner of the battery and now there a tiny hole in the plastic, this happened on both sides.
Do you think I just ruined the battery? or am I okay?
Also, I did not sand the battery that much and I think it closes fine...it not flush but is that going to cause any problems as well? I started to sand it but the metal powder stated to irritate and stopped.
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you're fine.
i would assume every G2 is different and everyone's expectations for how well the battery door fits will be different as well. so as long as the door closes and you have some tape over the area where the MicroSD card is and your happy with it you should be all set.
you might want to consider clearing battery stats through CWM when the battery is full, then run it down till it dies to reset the stats for the new battery.
I find myself in need of a large extended battery and the two most talked about seem to be the Anker 7800 and the Zerolemon 7500. They both have good reviews on Amazon and there seems to be arguments for both on XDA. Some reviews say the Anker comes with a better case but I do like the idea of the ZL rugged case but I'm guessing it could be used with the Anker battery. Does anyone have first hand experience with these on the s4 that can provide advice?
I use hyperion because of NFC.
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I find myself in need of a large extended battery and the two most talked about seem to be the Anker 7800 and the Zerolemon 7500. They both have good reviews on Amazon and there seems to be arguments for both on XDA. Some reviews say the Anker comes with a better case but I do like the idea of the ZL rugged case but I'm guessing it could be used with the Anker battery. Does anyone have first hand experience with these on the s4 that can provide advice?
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I actually just ordered the ZL 7500 + TPU Case AND the Rugged Case on Amazon. However, I won't get them until Monday. I'll post back with results.
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I find myself in need of a large extended battery and the two most talked about seem to be the Anker 7800 and the Zerolemon 7500. They both have good reviews on Amazon and there seems to be arguments for both on XDA. Some reviews say the Anker comes with a better case but I do like the idea of the ZL rugged case but I'm guessing it could be used with the Anker battery. Does anyone have first hand experience with these on the s4 that can provide advice?
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I own both and the ZL rugged case. The Anker fits very tightly into the rugged case. I like the Anker more because it's 300mah larger & doesn't cover the speaker.
Also, for whatever reason, my phone seems to be able to calculate the battery percentage of the Anker better than it does the ZeroLemon. I think it's because the Anker is exactly 3x the stock size while the ZL isn't.
bpditty said:
I find myself in need of a large extended battery and the two most talked about seem to be the Anker 7800 and the Zerolemon 7500. They both have good reviews on Amazon and there seems to be arguments for both on XDA. Some reviews say the Anker comes with a better case but I do like the idea of the ZL rugged case but I'm guessing it could be used with the Anker battery. Does anyone have first hand experience with these on the s4 that can provide advice?
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I use the Anker 5200 without a case on it. And it works well. I also have the Anker 7600..
The 5200 gets me 3 days, and the 7600 is around 4 days.
The 7600 is a real brick, so I only use it, when I really need a long lasting battery and am traveling all day.
I've been using the Anker 7800 mAh for the last week or so & it seems to do pretty well.
I needed a rugged case that the Anker 7800 would fit in & the closest one that looked sturdy enough to do the job is the ZL. I had to trim about 1/16" inch (1/32 or so on each side) from the inside edges of the 2 sides on the inner skeleton of the case. Maybe I could have gotten by without doing that but it felt like I might break it or not be able to snap the front & back pieces together properly without making a little more room. It wasn't bad. It would have gone a little quicker using a dremel but I had a utility knife handy so I used it instead. It just took a little patience and care in order to be sure to not break the piece.
The case fits very snugly. With the raised volume & power buttons and the cover flaps on the power & headphone ports, it actually seems a lot like the Otter Box case my wife & daughter use on their S3 & S4. If Otter Box made a case for the extended battery I would have used that instead. Anyway, I didn't need any of the shims or optional back cover plate (removable to accommodate a battery larger than the ZL 7500). If that sounds confusing, you'll see what I mean when you get the case or check out a review on Youtube.
The Pros on the ZL case:
-This case definitely accommodates the Anker 7800 mAh battery.
-The case seems relatively solid and well made
-the raised power and volume buttons are easy to feel
-relatively sturdy cover flaps for the power and headphone ports
-the cameras, mics, sensors and speaker are open sufficiently for all functions to work properly
The only cons for me are:
- Step one of the instructions isn't very clear. I had to go to Youtube & see someone take it apart. It makes sense once you see it, but the instructions don't explain the initial taking the outer shell off very well.
-the outer TPU case fits on so snugly that it was a pain to take apart out of the package and a little bit of a pain putting the outer case back on. It's designed like that so there's no way it'll come undone accidentally so long as you put it on correctly. This con is also a huge pro! The other negative about the case being so securely made is that it's a bit of a pain to take it off when you need to remove your battery or ext SD card. Don't have an accident where it gets wet and you need to get the battery out in a hurry. There's a little lip on the edges of both the inner skeleton and the outer TPU cover that interlock. Definitely a nice snug fit.
-While the TPU case does have tiny bumps/studs on the sides to improve grip, the overall case doesn't have quite the rubbery grip I liked on my Seidio case for my EVO 4G. While it's not ideal, the grip is reasonably decent. I don't think I'll drop it easily.
- The built in screen protector SUCKS! (excuse the capital letters, that's not a shout, just emphatic) Sorry ZL but big fail on that one and if you look at the reviews, most others make the same complaint. It sits just a tiny bit above the screen so that you can't just touch the screen. Instead you have to press the screen protector down until it makes contact with the screen. It's only attached around the edges by some double sided tape so it's not hard to get rid of it. The quality of the screen protector seems a bit substandard. It reminds me of the plastic they use for the clear plastic clam shell packaging you see on Energizer batteries and so many other products. You can find much better screen protectors that are glare & smudge resistant.
-Lack of a kickstand. (but I just robbed the kickstand off the CRAPPY Seidio extended cover case I got for my S4 initially & stuck that on the back). The included carrying case gives you a kickstand but the case / holster is just too clunky for my taste. I need a case that absolutely cannot fall off or and the phone absolutely cannot fall out of (checkout "Ripoffs" cases by U.S. Armor, made for law enforcement/military/emergency services). Ripoffs cases have to be deliberately taken off. They are ultra secure on your belt or when just clipping them to the top of my pants pocket. The CO-83 is a good fit for this phone/battery/case combination and it has a little pocket inside where you can put a spare SD, thumb drive and/or micro usb otg cable.
As far as the battery, just one con, being the weight. You're definitely going to feel the difference but if you're considering extended battery you probably won't care. I don't mind it being a brick so long as it functions for me.
I'd recommend them both!
Zerolemon 7500 quick review
So after some pretty heavy testing, I'm finding that the battery does phenomenally well running android 4.4.2 (GoldenEye ROMs). Since it wasn't running stock, I applied my normal power saving measures (KT Kernel, profiles, TW powersaving mode, tasker GPS profile). The best I saw was 3 days with 15.5 hours of screen-on time. More recently, I've been seeing 2 days with 12 hours or so with screen-on time. That's likely due to my experimentation with different configurations. One of the most maddening things about this battery is actually trying to kill it. That last 2% of battery life goes on forever. I ordered the Zerolemon superfast charger (which, by the way, isn't superfast at all). It seems to charge faster using the standard Samsung charger. However, it helps when charging the battery I'm not using after a swap out. I've gotten pretty used to the added bulk and weight - so much so that using the stock battery makes me marvel at how light the phone actually is (even in the Zerolemon rugged case).
I am looking between the Anker and the ZL right now.
I have been reading that the Anker case is very slippery. Is this true? Does the Anker cover the face of the phone on the sides, to protect the screen?
I've used both zero lemon and anker. I prefer anker. For me i get better battery life even those the anker is smaller in capacity
ZL poor long term battery
My experience going through 2 ZL 7500 batteries is that they're great in the first couple of months at giving amazing battery life, but the performance loses out pretty significantly months later in. I've gotta say their customer service is great in replacing stuff, but at the same time its a pain to have poor longevity in its quality. I think I'm gunna order the Anker and give that a go. Anyone know if there's any battery like with nfc though?
I love this battery. I got a GS4 with a bad ESN (f'kn craigslist). Reported it but the cops couldn't do anything. So I did what any XDA member would do....convert to a gaming device! Fully charged it and ran it all day and night yesterday and this morning. Pictures, video, music, games, etc...
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I'm very content with the Anker 7800. I need a protective case so I'm gonna try that Zero Lemon case.
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I love this battery. I got a GS4 with a bad ESN (f'kn craigslist). Reported it but the cops couldn't do anything. So I did what any XDA member would do....convert to a gaming device! Fully charged it and ran it all day and night yesterday and this morning. Pictures, video, music, games, etc...
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I'm very content with the Anker 7800. I need a protective case so I'm gonna try that Zero Lemon case.
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the zero lemon case doesn't fit the anker battery 7800
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the zero lemon case doesn't fit the anker battery 7800
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It does. Can't wait to get it here. Use this phone to jog around and the anker case doesn't cut for drops on the move.
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It does. Can't wait to get it here. Use this phone to jog around and the anker case doesn't cut for drops on the move.
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i got both ,but it ZL case doesnt fit the Anker battery
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i got both ,but it ZL case doesnt fit the Anker battery
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You may have to trim yours. Users on the first part of this thread state it does.
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You may have to trim yours. Users on the first part of this thread state it does.
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any video ?
I have both the ZL and anker 7800mah. I am using the anker now because the case it much nicer and better quality and is solid.
Also I was having signal problem with the ZL but none with the anker. This could be because zerolemon covers the bottom antenna but the anker is quite shorter and doesn't. I think Anker is overall much better made and designed apart from the fact it doesn't have NFC
How did you shave the ZL case?
I would do that if I knew how. I like the ZL case and battery but the Anker 7800 lasts longer but slightly too big for the ZL case.
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I put my original battery in the case with adapter.
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bpditty said:
I find myself in need of a large extended battery and the two most talked about seem to be the Anker 7800 and the Zerolemon 7500. They both have good reviews on Amazon and there seems to be arguments for both on XDA. Some reviews say the Anker comes with a better case but I do like the idea of the ZL rugged case but I'm guessing it could be used with the Anker battery. Does anyone have first hand experience with these on the s4 that can provide advice?
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(forward to 1:16 if you just want to watch the underwater video)
The only reason I pulled this out of my thread is to make sure it is visible. The question arose whether or not an aftermarket QI receiver will cause the Galaxy S5 to leak water. The answer is in the video. You can actually hear the phone start to malfunction. I knew this was a high risk trial. It was a gamble and I lost. Well technically my wife lost. She now hates the Note 3 I have her using .
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If you look at the picture above, you can see the smooth path around the inside of the device that the seal on the battery door matches up with. Sometimes you will notice air bubbles come out of the phone when you submerge it. This is probably because water is allowed to get into areas up to the seal.
Now look at the QI receiver pad's ribbon cable that protrudes on the top left. One of the QI prongs is located within the seal path. Naturally the ribbon was in seal path as well. In addition to this, the small amount of bulk added under the cover could have been just enough to affect the small seals. Perhaps you could cut the ribbon ever so slightly, and do other modifications to make the pad thinner. Who really wants to do that and re-perform this test though?
I am definitely not accusing Samsung for any failure on their part. There are articles about the S4 Active having issues and AT&T doing on time courtesy replacements for those devices (unmodified). I checked with AT&T for S&Gs to see if there were any reports of S5s with issues. They said no. Only time will tell. This is not a warranty issue anyways because I modified the device.
The setup was tested with in a bathroom tub with the device off earlier in the day. It passed. No water seeped past the door seal. I should have tested it a few times at various depths up to 12" and moved the phone around to encourage water to get in. Starting at 1 second, 5 seconds, 10 seconds etc. Small tests would have minimized the amount of water that could have entered the phone without detection.
My recommendation is to not use the device on purpose for underwater photography. Take measures if you are going to be in an environment which could potentially result in your phone getting wet. Make sure all the seals are in tact and do not press buttons while the phone is submerged. It might not be a factor but why try?
If you ever notice water getting into your phone, no matter what make or model, turn it off immediately, take out the battery, and inspect. Upon inspection, should you notice any moisture, dry the phone for 24-48 hours at a minimum. This phone DID NOT die immediately. It actually just got worse over time. I should have dried it for about half a week I'm thinking. Remember, it's not really the water that does the damage to the circuitry. It's the electricity that is running though the water and shorting out components. Water seeping into the display probably isn't good in general but just trying to make a point. Initially it was only the home button that was malfunctioning (registering as being pressed the whole time). Screen was fine and everything. Then it had problems turning on. Hours later, when it did turn on, the screen was going. Hours after that, the screen would not turn on at all.
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Underwater wireless charging . Explains where the water probably came from and demonstrates the failure.
The S4 Active actually has a snap in the center of the device. Your S5 does not. Just a random tidbit.
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(forward to 1:16 if you just want to watch the underwater video)
The only reason I pulled this out of my thread is to make sure it is visible. The question arose whether or not an aftermarket QI receiver will cause the Galaxy S5 to leak water. The answer is in the video. You can actually hear the phone start to malfunction. I knew this was a high risk trial. It was a gamble and I lost. Well technically my wife lost. She now hates the Note 3 I have her using .
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Thank you for confirming what was already highly speculated to be the case. Unfortunately your efforts will not stop the slew of idiots who think their 3rd party Qi receiver hack will still leave their phone IP67 compliant.
It's a shame the official wireless coVer is in such short supply.....
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It's a shame the official wireless coVer is in such short supply.....
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True but it's also a shame that they always make the phone thicker. I purchased one for the S4 just to give a little feedback and never used it again.
If some people got them and did a case compatibility thread, that'd be nice.
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The oem cover is only good if you don't intend to use a case, there is quite a small percentages that don't use cases, and many case manufacture won't make one case in two size to accommodate the two sizes of covers.
This is probably the first phone to support wireless charging with IP67.
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Next time only do a water test for your own benefit, and not for the forum, it's too costly.:fingers-crossed:
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The oem cover is only good if you don't intend to use a case, there is quite a small percentages that don't use cases, and many case manufacture won't make one case in two size to accommodate the two sizes of covers.
This is probably the first phone to support wireless charging with IP67.
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Next time only do a water test for your own benefit, and not for the forum, it's too costly.:fingers-crossed:
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some of us wouldn't mind if samsung made compatible cases just for the qi wireless charger case :crying:
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some of us wouldn't mind if samsung made compatible cases just for the qi wireless charger case :crying:
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It will be good, but it doesn't seem like they will with their past experiences, the market is too small to open a production line.
Why would anyone be surprised about this outcome. Pretty expensive lab experiment too. That had fail written all over it using a 3rd party device like that. I would not try underwater video even with the stock phone. I think the intention of making this phone IP67 rated was more for the accidental toilet, sink, pool drop, etc. If you want to do underwater video I would suggest getting a GoPro.
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Why would anyone be surprised about this outcome. Pretty expensive lab experiment too. That had fail written all over it using a 3rd party device like that. I would not try underwater video even with the stock phone. I think the intention of making this phone IP67 rated was more for the accidental toilet, sink, pool drop, etc. If you want to do underwater video I would suggest getting a GoPro.
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I agree on this, the ip67 is only for safety measures and not for anyone to put into water on purpose.
Thats why when members asked me about ip67 in my post regarding qi receiver, i just totally ignore them.
So you added thickness to the back cover using the qi receiver and say the phone is water damaged. Why didn't you test it with the official samsung qi enabled back cover?
Because I make Youtube videos? I was 75% sure that something was going to go wrong. I could live with the outcome. If you can't, don't even try.
Have you ever seen drop tests?
- Added underwater charging video which also shows about how much water gets in with an aftermarket wireless pad stuffed under the cover.
- Added picture which illustrates what was probably worse than the ribbon cable being in the track of the seal.
I believe the S5 Qi OEM cover will not make the phone thicker. Here is the link and quote for the S5 cover:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-CG900IBUSTA
The Wireless Battery Cover was designed by Samsung to seamlessly match the look and feel of your Galaxy S 5 ensuring that your phone maintains its original style and slim profile.
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Contrast this to Samsung's listing of the S4 cover:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-CI950IWUSTA
The wireless charging cover adds minimal bulk to your device. Keep in mind that due to a slight addition of bulk, some case options may not fit optimally. Cannot be used with Samsung Flip Covers or the Protective Cover +
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The S4 listing makes it very clear that it adds bulk, while the S5 listing says it maintains the original slim 'style'.
I have ordered a oem Qi S5 cover. I'll post when I get it if there are issues (but since I am in Canada and have ordered from US, I suspect that I will be late to the party and we will have the answer already).
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I believe the S5 Qi OEM cover will not make the phone thicker. Here is the link and quote for the S5 cover:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-CG900IBUSTA
Contrast this to Samsung's listing of the S4 cover:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-CI950IWUSTA
The S4 listing makes it very clear that it adds bulk, while the S5 listing says it maintains the original slim 'style'.
I have ordered a oem Qi S5 cover. I'll post when I get it if there are issues (but since I am in Canada and have ordered from US, I suspect that I will be late to the party and we will have the answer already).
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The cover is already out and folks here have them. It makes the phone thicker.
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The cover is already out and folks here have them. It makes the phone thicker.
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Yep... Here are some pics shared from the huge thread...
Original poster - v3rtex
Ahh got it. Thanks! I have been watching threads and I totally missed these pictures.
Well, agreed that this is unfortunate (but in hindsight, expected).
Looks like it adds camera protection thankfully. I'm loving my Ringke Slim though so I'll have to decide. I have the black cover coming.
I guess the only real perfect solution is to have the QI capabilities built-in so that variances like this don't happen.
Thanks again and I'll check the thread a bit closer and see the comments, etc.
chriskwarren said:
Ahh got it. Thanks! I have been watching threads and I totally missed these pictures.
Well, agreed that this is unfortunate (but in hindsight, expected).
Looks like it adds camera protection thankfully. I'm loving my Ringke Slim though so I'll have to decide. I have the black cover coming.
I guess the only real perfect solution is to have the QI capabilities built-in so that variances like this don't happen.
Thanks again and I'll check the thread a bit closer and see the comments, etc.
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Welcome...
I was bored so I threw another device in the water. Nano coating... I like...
Unfortunately I learned this the hardway today I forgot the qi pad would probably not allow the seal to complete and now my phone is in a bag of rice sitting on the window sill hoping and praying, I also oredered a new battery in hopes to fool the at&t associate into thinking it is a manufacturer malfunction fingers crossed
Oh no my video was pointless. Jk.. Sorry to hear that though. The longer you can wait the better.
Don't blow into the phone either thinking you can get the water out. You'll probably just push it deeper.
PM me if your run out of options.
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How thin (or thick depending on how you see it, hehe) was your card?
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The cover is already out and folks here have them. It makes the phone thicker.
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Yes its thicker but hardly any differenece
Only thing is we can use it more with Plastic covers
but its not not bad & i prefer to stick with the original back charging cover from Samsung
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXGxDIDP1x0
I would say almost the same time charging like with the wire
Ok I will update this review in a few days after I have completed a couple of charge cycles but here are my initial impressions of the battery.
The battery is the same height and width as the stock battery but approximately twice as thick.
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The battery fits snugly into the phone and is really secure even without the back cover on and is in no danger of falling out.
The phone is obviously slightly heavier but not noticeably but with the back cover on you can certainly notice the extra thickness for sure.
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After my first day of use I got 7.30 hours of screen on time but I did do a back up, flash a new Rom and then restore during this so I expect to be able t get 2 days usage and 8 hours of screen on time once the battery has had a few charge cycles.
The back cover is a very similar material to the original and includes NFC and wireless charging which for me is a major plus point
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There are other alternatives on the market like zerolemon but this doesn't have NFC or wireless charging and it is a tricell battery it has been causing issues with giving a true reading of remaining battery.
I had a mugen battery on my old galaxy s2 which I gave my mum and is still going strong 4 years later so reliability I don't see as an issue.
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Conclusion
Plus Points
The Battery doesn't add to much weight
NFC and Wireless charging are included
Well known Manufacture
Double the battery life of stock
Built in kick stand and same material/look as stock cover
Negative Points
With the size of cover a bigger battery could be used (but not sure necessarily needed)
All though the cover looks great it offers no protection so maybe the option of a tpu case as well would be nice
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Review by @iridaki
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=58434824
I like the cover same as Hyperion but that is 8000. Gonna order cover from these guys and use it
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Can u give link to where you bought it.
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sawdoctor said:
All though the cover looks great it offers no protection so maybe the option of a tpu case as well would be nice
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I ordered one of them generic honeycomb-style TPU cases for extended batteries for a couple of quid from eBay, I believe it will fit the Mugen back cover. If that's true, then it's a cheap solution for extra protection.
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Can u give link to where you bought it.
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The batteries were sent to 4 XDA members as review units.
They will be available from February 6th and you can preorder here.
iridaki said:
I ordered one of them generic honeycomb-style TPU cases for extended batteries for a couple of quid from eBay, I believe it will fit the Mugen back cover. If that's true, then it's a cheap solution for extra protection.
The batteries were sent to 4 XDA members as review units.
They will be available from February 6th and you can preorder here.
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Gotcha I will wait until they offer the back door by itself. I love my Hyperion battery and to justify spending a 100 for a battery not as big and a cover is not for me. Just was looking into the cover and now tpu case you reffered to .all these backdoors are made by 1 company in China then get labeled or stuff added to it like qi charger adapter
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I find that my Note 4 has amazing battery life with stock battery.
Why make your phone into a brick with these extended batteries ?
I mean you could always just carry a spare battery in your bag or car.
THS1989 said:
I find that my Note 4 has amazing battery life with stock battery.
Why make your phone into a brick with these extended batteries ?
I mean you could always just carry a spare battery in your bag or car.
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Tbh i can normally get a day out of the stock battery but it's nice to have the extra juice if you are somewhere where you can't plug in and recharge. Any extended battery will add some bulk to the phone but the mugen doesn't feel like a brick unlike some others that really are huge and probably overkill
THS1989 said:
I find that my Note 4 has amazing battery life with stock battery.
Why make your phone into a brick with these extended batteries ?
I mean you could always just carry a spare battery in your bag or car.
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I work anywhere from 10-16 hours a day on my feet moving with clients. So I don't have time to charge back up. A spare battery is OK but if I forget it I am screwed. Rather have the bulk either way. I got pretty big hands and the phone sometimes is a pain to hold with out the case with bigger back.
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After spending 4 days with the Mugen battery, I have to say I am quite impressed.
Firstly, it does add bulk to the back of the phone, but it doesn't add much weight, so the phone is easy to handle. The back cover is of very high quality (will update the post with photos soon) and the kickstand is sturdy and quite handy. Wireless charging and NFC work flawlessly, which is a big bonus.
Now to the more interesting part: the actual battery life. The battery has claimed capacity of 6640mAh and the stock battery is rated at 3220mAh. That means it should easily double the battery life of the phone.
Does it deliver?
In short, YES, absolutely.
Long version: I am what many would consider a 'heavy user'. I have a Gear Fit that is constantly connected with the phone, so the S Health app runs in the background syncing every 3 hours. WiFi always on, mobile data as well. Autosync on for 2 Google and 1 Exchange accounts. I stream music from Deezer and watch Netflix almost every day (long bus journeys... ).
All in all, I get about 16 hours of standby with 4 hours of screen on time with the stock battery.
With the Mugen battery I got more than 8 hours of screen on time -see screenshots. I didn't even put the phone in Ultra Power Saving mode at night, as I do when I use the stock battery.
So my personal experience has been very positive and the battery, in my view, has scored excellent in all aspects: standby, temperature, charging, appearance.
Are there any negative points?
Much like with everything in life, yes.
I'd really like to see a TPU case that fits the extended back cover. I'm just one of these people that can't stand the idea of the phone being naked! [emoji23]
Is it worth it?
OK, let's address the elephant in the room: the product is pricey. I received it as a review unit and before I actually started using it, I was too thinking what many of you possibly think: "This is too expensive". However, after a day with it, I realised that, once again, the 'you get what you pay for' applies here. The battery performs excellently out of the box. No hiccups with the battery gauge, it displays the correct percentage at all times, no need for 'calibrations' and other questionable shenanigans. It just works. It doubled my battery life from the first charge, I didn't need to wait ages and condition the battery with crazy rituals for it to perform as it is supposed to. It just works. It adds bulk, but not too much weight and the back cover looks and feels beautiful, while adding extra grip due to the very fine texture. Not to mention wireless charging, which is a big bonus and advantage over the competition. Add NFC to that too.
All in all, yes, it is worth it.
Available for pre-order here:
http://mugen.co/mugen-power-6640mah...-samsung-galaxy-note-4-with-battery-door.html
iridaki said:
After spending 4 days with the Mugen battery, I have to say I am quite impressed.
Firstly, it does add bulk to the back of the phone, but it doesn't add much weight, so the phone is easy to handle. The back cover is of very high quality (will update the post with photos soon) and the kickstand is sturdy and quite handy. Wireless charging and NFC work flawlessly, which is a big bonus.
Now to the more interesting part: the actual battery life. The battery has claimed capacity of 6640mAh and the stock battery is rated at 3220mAh. That means it should easily double the battery life of the phone.
Does it deliver?
In short, YES, absolutely.
Long version: I am what many would consider a 'heavy user'. I have a Gear Fit that is constantly connected with the phone, so the S Health app runs in the background syncing every 3 hours. WiFi always on, mobile data as well. Autosync on for 2 Google and 1 Exchange accounts. I stream music from Deezer and watch Netflix almost every day (long bus journeys... ).
All in all, I get about 16 hours of standby with 4 hours of screen on time with the stock battery.
With the Mugen battery I got more than 8 hours of screen on time -see screenshots. I didn't even put the phone in Ultra Power Saving mode at night, as I do when I use the stock battery.
So my personal experience has been very positive and the battery, in my view, has scored excellent in all aspects: standby, temperature, charging, appearance.
Are there any negative points?
Much like with everything in life, yes.
I'd really like to see a TPU case that fits the extended back cover. I'm just one of these people that can't stand the idea of the phone being naked! [emoji23]
Is it worth it?
OK, let's address the elephant in the room: the product is pricey. I received it as a review unit and before I actually started using it, I was too thinking what many of you possibly think: "This is too expensive". However, after a day with it, I realised that, once again, the 'you get what you pay for' applies here. The battery performs excellently out of the box. No hiccups with the battery gauge, it displays the correct percentage at all times, no need for 'calibrations' and other questionable shenanigans. It just works. It doubled my battery life from the first charge, I didn't need to wait ages and condition the battery with crazy rituals for it to perform as it is supposed to. It just works. It adds bulk, but not too much weight and the back cover looks and feels beautiful, while adding extra grip due to the very fine texture. Not to mention wireless charging, which is a big bonus and advantage over the competition. Add NFC to that too.
All in all, yes, it is worth it.
Available for pre-order here:
http://mugen.co/mugen-power-6640mah...-samsung-galaxy-note-4-with-battery-door.html
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Great review @iridaki way better than mine lol. I have to say I agree with your conclusion it is a bit more expensive but I think the inclusion on Nfc and wireless charging make it worth it.
I have tried the wireless charging and once you get the phone positioned properly it works fine although the phone does get rather warm
sawdoctor said:
Great review @iridaki way better than mine lol. I have to say I agree with your conclusion it is a bit more expensive but I think the inclusion on Nfc and wireless charging make it worth it.
I have tried the wireless charging and once you get the phone positioned properly it works fine although the phone does get rather warm
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what wireless you are using
tongphan said:
what wireless you are using
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I ordered this one from amazon
EC Technology® 6mm Ultra-Slim Qi-Enabled Wireless Charging Pad fo... http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00M9TBTDM/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_XgTXub0AX2R0Y
Considering the size of this phone to begin with, I would say that to add any extra bulk would be not in my best interest. I would just recommend a power bank that you can plug into periodically, and just making sure you charge your phone nightly. I like to keep my phone in my pocket, and that even a little extra bulk would be quite noticeable. At least in my perspective.
iridaki said:
I ordered one of them generic honeycomb-style TPU cases for extended batteries for a couple of quid from eBay, I believe it will fit the Mugen back cover. If that's true, then it's a cheap solution for extra protection.
How did this work out, the cheap generic TPU case, did it end up fitting over the Mugen extended battery cover?
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2thvet said:
iridaki said:
I ordered one of them generic honeycomb-style TPU cases for extended batteries for a couple of quid from eBay, I believe it will fit the Mugen back cover. If that's true, then it's a cheap solution for extra protection.
How did this work out, the cheap generic TPU case, did it end up fitting over the Mugen extended battery cover?
Sent from my SM-N910P using XDA Free mobile app
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I ordered one of eBay but still waiting for it. Might try the balloon trick for now
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2thvet said:
I ordered one of eBay but still waiting for it. Might try the balloon trick for now
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Mine should be arriving within this week, I'll let you know!
The balloon trick crossed my mind too!
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Okay, excuse my ignorance...what is the balloon trick?
I have the Zerolemon as well, I suppose I can see if the Zeroshock case will work with the Mugen battery. I don't have the Mugen battery yet, just ordered it, otherwise I would have tried it. I just got tired of the battery percentage and calibration shenanigans with the Zerolemon, had to try something else.
2thvet said:
Okay, excuse my ignorance...what is the balloon trick?
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2thvet said:
I have the Zerolemon as well, I suppose I can see if the Zeroshock case will work with the Mugen battery. I don't have the Mugen battery yet, just ordered it, otherwise I would have tried it. I just got tired of the battery percentage and calibration shenanigans with the Zerolemon, had to try something else.
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I've been using my Mugen battery for a while now and it's awesome, I am sure you'll enjoy it.
If the Zeroshock case for the Note 4 is anything like the one for the S4, it can accommodate any extended battery so it should work with the Mugen just fine.
iridaki said:
http://youtu.be/lvVE3LeWiDI
I've been using my Mugen battery for a while now and it's awesome, I am sure you'll enjoy it.
If the Zeroshock case for the Note 4 is anything like the one for the S4, it can accommodate any extended battery so it should work with the Mugen just fine.
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Only issue for me is i either have to take the back off or use stock battery when i use my gear vr
I would never ever ever use a balloon. That is rigging at it best.
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Wireless charging this? I find this a joke. Even with stock battery, I found it takes too long for the % move up, also i pick up the phone to use more frequently, so it's not practical, especially this one, take 24h to charge without picking up the phone????
Someone please don't do the math of Ah vs A output to prove my 24h charge wrong, LOL you know what i meant...
Does anyone know where to buy a replacement battery for the Moto X Pure? The only one I have found is a 2800 mAh on amazon, which is less than the 3000 mAh stock battery.
Hi, search on Ebay for Motorola FX30 battery, there should be two sellers shipping from US (assuming you are in US...). It is around 30 something. I just purchased one that's delivered today, will have to see how it goes... Yes, these are OEM batteries listed as 2800 mah or so, I think it is fine. I think the battery rating is 3000 mah is the average or something like that, but 2800 mah or so is the minimum guaranteed capacity.
I have been hunting for a replacement battery for more than a month, tried two previous sellers that don't actually have them in stock but still accepted my orders.
namartlu said:
Hi, search on Ebay for Motorola FX30 battery, there should be two sellers shipping from US (assuming you are in US...). It is around 30 something. I just purchased one that's delivered today, will have to see how it goes... Yes, these are OEM batteries listed as 2800 mah or so, I think it is fine. I think the battery rating is 3000 mah is the average or something like that, but 2800 mah or so is the minimum guaranteed capacity.
I have been hunting for a replacement battery for more than a month, tried two previous sellers that don't actually have them in stock but still accepted my orders.
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Yep. I did the search too. I live in a decently large city and for those few cell phone repair shops who would even work on the phone, their source for the battery: eBay.
Somehow I got shipped two batteries... One is cameron sino, another one generic no brand... weird. I am going to use the Cameron Sino one...
OK, the battery is installed. It is lasting normal now, I think, but have to try a few charge/discharge cycle to see how good it is.
One corner of the back cover is not sticking too well now, I may need to apply some more glue to it.... :/ It probably is no longer water proof....
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It probably is no longer water proof....
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btw it never was waterproof, mainboard has special coating that protect it from water damage and thats all, water still can easily get inside even in new phone
First day of normal use, battery going strong!
Oh boy, and this is now $10 cheaper on ebay! http://www.ebay.com/itm/302268743972#rwid
well... it's worth it even at $35 that I paid, no complains.
Update: never mind, it's out of stock.
I ordered one today off Ebay. I'll be looking up the tear apart video. How difficult would you say it is to take them apart and get back together. Mine comes with the tools. Anything else I need to purchase to be ready?
Oaklands said:
I ordered one today off Ebay. I'll be looking up the tear apart video. How difficult would you say it is to take them apart and get back together. Mine comes with the tools. Anything else I need to purchase to be ready?
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Adhesive to reapply the back cover if not included. Be careful when removing the back plate to prevent damage.
Use the AccuBattery app to calculate the capacity of your battery. I have also tried to purchase an original Motorola battery (Germany) but was not able to find it, so I settled for generic items of 2800 mAh.
my motox has like 40-60% original capacity and needs a new battery bad... but i have the wood back on mine so and dont feel confident in getting it off without destroying it...
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my motox has like 40-60% original capacity and needs a new battery bad... but i have the wood back on mine so and dont feel confident in getting it off without destroying it...
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I have a woodback too, when I took mine off I saw that the wood is just a very thin veneer glued to plastic so it can flex and bend a bit without damage.
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I have a woodback too, when I took mine off I saw that the wood is just a very thin veneer glued to plastic so it can flex and bend a bit without damage.
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Be that as it may unlike some reports I have seen my wood back fit tight and nearly seem less I would need to begin prying near the rear mic. And hope the heat gun got the glue soft enough to let me peel the wood off. Just seemed like a lot of dangerous work just to have the phone continue with the weird glitches it has developed over the 2 years I owned it. Way I see it the next owner can take that risk the phone is in mint condition except for software glitches and battery wear and a weird pattern the silicon case liner left on the wood but that rubs off and will probably go away completely if left out of that case. I still have the box and bumper and I think 5 cases for it as well as a unused glass screen protector to replace the haloed one on it. I bought every case under 15 dollars on amazon trying to find one I liked... All were either too cheap feeling or had some flaw. The one I think I liked the most was the semi hard Beatle in blue I tried using heat to remove the frosting on it and warped the case a bit but it was a clear case. I did get a clear case but it turned yellow very quickly...
I bought a vhbw battery and it's quite good!
Got it from eBay from a German seller.
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Battery replacement
I'm about to take the plunge. I have the new battery and adhesive sticker for the back. Based on the video I watched, it seems to be a straight forward process. I did not order a new back because mine has the diagonal ridges on it which would seem to indicate that it's just a simple plastic back.
Wish me luck!
Update on the replacement: I followed the directions from this video to a T ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZYsfBqnEbU ). Everything went great except for one thing not shown in the video - when removing the buttons, be aware of the 3 tiny spring pins the buttons press against. Mine came out and I did not realize it until I put everything back together. The phone powered up as soon as I plugged the battery connections in but now I could not turn it on or off and no volume control either. I decided that as long as I could keep it powered on, I could control volume thru settings.
Monday, I was leaving work, and in trying to get an idea of battery usage/stats, I did not keep it fully charged. My boss called me and immediately afterwards, the phone died. So, knowing I could not power it on, I headed to Best Buy and picked up a Moto G5+ (64Gb storage/4Gb ram) for $299.I had not planned to replace my MXPE so soon but that's life!
Hey, I just got the same battery, vhbw, but this question is for anyone here who replaced their batteries:
Did your batteries come already curved? I was in the middle of installing it when I realized it's not curved and I'm scared of bending it myself (I don't want to upgrade my phone to a Note 7).
Did you guys just force it in, bent it beforehand? I can't close the phone back up without bending the battery...
Thanks for any help.
@bv90andy
I bended the battery on the case where it rests otherwise you cannot close the phone. It will bend just a little bit, the problem may be repositioning the NFC antenna contacts.
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@bv90andy
I bended the battery on the case where it rests otherwise you cannot close the phone. It will bend just a little bit, the problem may be repositioning the NFC antenna contacts.
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Well, after some back and forth with the seller who goes by the same name as the battery brand (so I'm guessing they sell directly on ebay), they asked me the code on the original battery and the battery I received from them, then they decided to refund my money and told me a replacement would not solve the problem and to dispose of the battery.
After videos I've seen of Li-ion batteries going up in flames I'm not too happy about bending it myself.
I'd still like to know if any of the other people here bought batteries already curved, or they had to do the same thing and bent them themselves.
Has anyone had a FLASH Fires from NON-OEM Batteries Turbo-Charge yet?