(forward to 1:16 if you just want to watch the underwater video)
The only reason I pulled this out of my thread is to make sure it is visible. The question arose whether or not an aftermarket QI receiver will cause the Galaxy S5 to leak water. The answer is in the video. You can actually hear the phone start to malfunction. I knew this was a high risk trial. It was a gamble and I lost. Well technically my wife lost. She now hates the Note 3 I have her using .
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If you look at the picture above, you can see the smooth path around the inside of the device that the seal on the battery door matches up with. Sometimes you will notice air bubbles come out of the phone when you submerge it. This is probably because water is allowed to get into areas up to the seal.
Now look at the QI receiver pad's ribbon cable that protrudes on the top left. One of the QI prongs is located within the seal path. Naturally the ribbon was in seal path as well. In addition to this, the small amount of bulk added under the cover could have been just enough to affect the small seals. Perhaps you could cut the ribbon ever so slightly, and do other modifications to make the pad thinner. Who really wants to do that and re-perform this test though?
I am definitely not accusing Samsung for any failure on their part. There are articles about the S4 Active having issues and AT&T doing on time courtesy replacements for those devices (unmodified). I checked with AT&T for S&Gs to see if there were any reports of S5s with issues. They said no. Only time will tell. This is not a warranty issue anyways because I modified the device.
The setup was tested with in a bathroom tub with the device off earlier in the day. It passed. No water seeped past the door seal. I should have tested it a few times at various depths up to 12" and moved the phone around to encourage water to get in. Starting at 1 second, 5 seconds, 10 seconds etc. Small tests would have minimized the amount of water that could have entered the phone without detection.
My recommendation is to not use the device on purpose for underwater photography. Take measures if you are going to be in an environment which could potentially result in your phone getting wet. Make sure all the seals are in tact and do not press buttons while the phone is submerged. It might not be a factor but why try?
If you ever notice water getting into your phone, no matter what make or model, turn it off immediately, take out the battery, and inspect. Upon inspection, should you notice any moisture, dry the phone for 24-48 hours at a minimum. This phone DID NOT die immediately. It actually just got worse over time. I should have dried it for about half a week I'm thinking. Remember, it's not really the water that does the damage to the circuitry. It's the electricity that is running though the water and shorting out components. Water seeping into the display probably isn't good in general but just trying to make a point. Initially it was only the home button that was malfunctioning (registering as being pressed the whole time). Screen was fine and everything. Then it had problems turning on. Hours later, when it did turn on, the screen was going. Hours after that, the screen would not turn on at all.
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Underwater wireless charging . Explains where the water probably came from and demonstrates the failure.
The S4 Active actually has a snap in the center of the device. Your S5 does not. Just a random tidbit.
chrisngrod said:
(forward to 1:16 if you just want to watch the underwater video)
The only reason I pulled this out of my thread is to make sure it is visible. The question arose whether or not an aftermarket QI receiver will cause the Galaxy S5 to leak water. The answer is in the video. You can actually hear the phone start to malfunction. I knew this was a high risk trial. It was a gamble and I lost. Well technically my wife lost. She now hates the Note 3 I have her using .
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Thank you for confirming what was already highly speculated to be the case. Unfortunately your efforts will not stop the slew of idiots who think their 3rd party Qi receiver hack will still leave their phone IP67 compliant.
It's a shame the official wireless coVer is in such short supply.....
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It's a shame the official wireless coVer is in such short supply.....
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True but it's also a shame that they always make the phone thicker. I purchased one for the S4 just to give a little feedback and never used it again.
If some people got them and did a case compatibility thread, that'd be nice.
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The oem cover is only good if you don't intend to use a case, there is quite a small percentages that don't use cases, and many case manufacture won't make one case in two size to accommodate the two sizes of covers.
This is probably the first phone to support wireless charging with IP67.
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Next time only do a water test for your own benefit, and not for the forum, it's too costly.:fingers-crossed:
kms108 said:
The oem cover is only good if you don't intend to use a case, there is quite a small percentages that don't use cases, and many case manufacture won't make one case in two size to accommodate the two sizes of covers.
This is probably the first phone to support wireless charging with IP67.
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Next time only do a water test for your own benefit, and not for the forum, it's too costly.:fingers-crossed:
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some of us wouldn't mind if samsung made compatible cases just for the qi wireless charger case :crying:
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some of us wouldn't mind if samsung made compatible cases just for the qi wireless charger case :crying:
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It will be good, but it doesn't seem like they will with their past experiences, the market is too small to open a production line.
Why would anyone be surprised about this outcome. Pretty expensive lab experiment too. That had fail written all over it using a 3rd party device like that. I would not try underwater video even with the stock phone. I think the intention of making this phone IP67 rated was more for the accidental toilet, sink, pool drop, etc. If you want to do underwater video I would suggest getting a GoPro.
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Why would anyone be surprised about this outcome. Pretty expensive lab experiment too. That had fail written all over it using a 3rd party device like that. I would not try underwater video even with the stock phone. I think the intention of making this phone IP67 rated was more for the accidental toilet, sink, pool drop, etc. If you want to do underwater video I would suggest getting a GoPro.
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I agree on this, the ip67 is only for safety measures and not for anyone to put into water on purpose.
Thats why when members asked me about ip67 in my post regarding qi receiver, i just totally ignore them.
So you added thickness to the back cover using the qi receiver and say the phone is water damaged. Why didn't you test it with the official samsung qi enabled back cover?
Because I make Youtube videos? I was 75% sure that something was going to go wrong. I could live with the outcome. If you can't, don't even try.
Have you ever seen drop tests?
- Added underwater charging video which also shows about how much water gets in with an aftermarket wireless pad stuffed under the cover.
- Added picture which illustrates what was probably worse than the ribbon cable being in the track of the seal.
I believe the S5 Qi OEM cover will not make the phone thicker. Here is the link and quote for the S5 cover:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-CG900IBUSTA
The Wireless Battery Cover was designed by Samsung to seamlessly match the look and feel of your Galaxy S 5 ensuring that your phone maintains its original style and slim profile.
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Contrast this to Samsung's listing of the S4 cover:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-CI950IWUSTA
The wireless charging cover adds minimal bulk to your device. Keep in mind that due to a slight addition of bulk, some case options may not fit optimally. Cannot be used with Samsung Flip Covers or the Protective Cover +
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The S4 listing makes it very clear that it adds bulk, while the S5 listing says it maintains the original slim 'style'.
I have ordered a oem Qi S5 cover. I'll post when I get it if there are issues (but since I am in Canada and have ordered from US, I suspect that I will be late to the party and we will have the answer already).
chriskwarren said:
I believe the S5 Qi OEM cover will not make the phone thicker. Here is the link and quote for the S5 cover:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-CG900IBUSTA
Contrast this to Samsung's listing of the S4 cover:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-CI950IWUSTA
The S4 listing makes it very clear that it adds bulk, while the S5 listing says it maintains the original slim 'style'.
I have ordered a oem Qi S5 cover. I'll post when I get it if there are issues (but since I am in Canada and have ordered from US, I suspect that I will be late to the party and we will have the answer already).
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The cover is already out and folks here have them. It makes the phone thicker.
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The cover is already out and folks here have them. It makes the phone thicker.
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Yep... Here are some pics shared from the huge thread...
Original poster - v3rtex
Ahh got it. Thanks! I have been watching threads and I totally missed these pictures.
Well, agreed that this is unfortunate (but in hindsight, expected).
Looks like it adds camera protection thankfully. I'm loving my Ringke Slim though so I'll have to decide. I have the black cover coming.
I guess the only real perfect solution is to have the QI capabilities built-in so that variances like this don't happen.
Thanks again and I'll check the thread a bit closer and see the comments, etc.
chriskwarren said:
Ahh got it. Thanks! I have been watching threads and I totally missed these pictures.
Well, agreed that this is unfortunate (but in hindsight, expected).
Looks like it adds camera protection thankfully. I'm loving my Ringke Slim though so I'll have to decide. I have the black cover coming.
I guess the only real perfect solution is to have the QI capabilities built-in so that variances like this don't happen.
Thanks again and I'll check the thread a bit closer and see the comments, etc.
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Welcome...
I was bored so I threw another device in the water. Nano coating... I like...
Unfortunately I learned this the hardway today I forgot the qi pad would probably not allow the seal to complete and now my phone is in a bag of rice sitting on the window sill hoping and praying, I also oredered a new battery in hopes to fool the at&t associate into thinking it is a manufacturer malfunction fingers crossed
Oh no my video was pointless. Jk.. Sorry to hear that though. The longer you can wait the better.
Don't blow into the phone either thinking you can get the water out. You'll probably just push it deeper.
PM me if your run out of options.
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How thin (or thick depending on how you see it, hehe) was your card?
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The cover is already out and folks here have them. It makes the phone thicker.
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Yes its thicker but hardly any differenece
Only thing is we can use it more with Plastic covers
but its not not bad & i prefer to stick with the original back charging cover from Samsung
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXGxDIDP1x0
I would say almost the same time charging like with the wire
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I have a note 4 and tech21 case. It's a nice compromise between thickness and protection. It has a nice texture that makes it easy to grip. Sadly it's incompatible with the samsung qi charging plate which is slightly thicker.
Any recommendations for a note 4 case that is compatible with the samsung charging plate?
Doesn't (and highly likely will never) exist. I would love to find one, but no one builds a case to accommodate the backplate just for the Qi charging. On all my previous phones, I had to go the route of using the cheap chinese insert behind the stock backplate. If you do find a solution, post back please - thanks
For past models there has eventually been a Protective Cover Plus that fit, but it won't be out for a while if ever.
I'm usually going without a case. If I am going to be on a job site where I don't have a need for wireless charging, I switch out the back and put on my Versus case. I've also got a qi receiver card to go in the case but it breaks tap to pay and charges slower. I've got a hopefully better one coming.
How about a bumper case?
Anyone have a nice bumper (around the edge) case for the note 4? Seems like pretty much any case without a back should be compatible the slightly thicker samsung qi charging back plate.
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Anyone have a nice bumper (around the edge) case for the note 4? Seems like pretty much any case without a back should be compatible the slightly thicker samsung qi charging back plate.
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I thought exactly this....haven't bought a bumper yet tho. I've been using the rubber from my otterbox commuter for protection. There are a lot of bumpers on eBay I'm thinking of picking up one of the cheap ones to test with this backing.
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Doesn't (and highly likely will never) exist. I would love to find one, but no one builds a case to accommodate the backplate just for the Qi charging. On all my previous phones, I had to go the route of using the cheap chinese insert behind the stock backplate. If you do find a solution, post back please - thanks
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Incorrect.
Diztronic made one for the S5: http://www.amazon.com/Diztronic-Flexible-Exclusively-Compatible-Wireless/dp/B00LLM9MQY
I'm sure they'll make one for the Note 4 within a month or two, it's the most popular Samsung phone now.
Wonder if the Spigen Neo Hybrid would work?
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Wonder if the Spigen Neo Hybrid would work?
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It does not. Wish it did [emoji19]
Honestly I hate cases. I wanted the original samsung charging back as i've always used the stick on kind for many samsung phones and have always found that you lose features, create bulges, and they don't always work that great. I have always battled with my hate of cases and my obsession with the newest phones. In the past I always sold my phones on the secondary market and wanted to retain their resale value. recently we went to the EDGE program because we have a family share plan. So my phones will simply be traded in to VZ. I checked with them on their condition requirements for traded edge phones and the consistent answer was that they didnt care about scratches and such as long as the screen wasnt broken and there was no water damage. so that made my decision EASY!. Original sammy back and NO ugly bulky case! YAY!. Insurance covers the accidental breakage issue.
Niilkin bumper just went live today on mobilefun. Hoping it might work
prerunnerseth said:
Honestly I hate cases. I wanted the original samsung charging back as i've always used the stick on kind for many samsung phones and have always found that you lose features, create bulges, and they don't always work that great. I have always battled with my hate of cases and my obsession with the newest phones. In the past I always sold my phones on the secondary market and wanted to retain their resale value. recently we went to the EDGE program because we have a family share plan. So my phones will simply be traded in to VZ. I checked with them on their condition requirements for traded edge phones and the consistent answer was that they didnt care about scratches and such as long as the screen wasnt broken and there was no water damage. so that made my decision EASY!. Original sammy back and NO ugly bulky case! YAY!. Insurance covers the accidental breakage issue.
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DITTO!
This note4 is a thing of beauty, and covering it up with a peice of rubber simply makes it look like every other black phablet on the market.
I'm on the next program with at&t, and will eventually trade my note4 back in when another upgrade phone comes out. They also don't care of minor screen scratches, only broken screens and water damage.
Caseology case works perfect with the OEM wireless charging back. A little snug but can't tell when in hand.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00N4DIM0A/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?qid=1417664983&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70
tylerjames09 said:
Caseology case works perfect with the OEM wireless charging back. A little snug but can't tell when in hand.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00N4DIM0A/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?qid=1417664983&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70
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I looked at that URL and under questions someone asked about fitting the Qi Back. 3 people said no. Did you have to modify it? Do the cutouts still line up?
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Niilkin bumper just went live today on mobilefun. Hoping it might work
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Looks promising, did you order one? If so please report back.
No I didn't. I have two TETDED leather diary types and the Naked Tough. I'm spent out for a while
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I looked at that URL and under questions someone asked about fitting the Qi Back. 3 people said no. Did you have to modify it? Do the cutouts still line up?
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No mods, straight out of box. The only thing I noticed that differed from the stock backing is that the case is a little tougher to get on...meaning you have to groove the plastic into the tpu a tad harder.
Pics of Caseology with wireless charging back.
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I had it for awhile (bought it directly from Ali Express). It works with the Qi cover, but otherwise I pretty much hate it:
1. It is a bit of a loose fit and the lip does not always go securely over the front edge of the phone.
2. The lip does not take into account the curved glass, so it's elevation over the surface of the glass is very minimal. I do not think it would provide any screen protection if the phone is dropped face down on the pavement (#1 contributes to this). This lip issue with curved glass seems to be an issue with other cases as well though.
3. Buttons are hard to press and identify by touch.
4. They placed and elevated Nillikin badge on the side of the phone that looks and feels like a button. What's worse it's located where power button would be if the phone was flipped upside down. This is extremely annoying because it makes it impossible to determine by touch if I am holding the phone correctly (and actually pressing a button).
5. The microphone holes, while aligned, create an echo when in speaker mode. Echo is bad enough to make the speaker mode unusable. I made the holes larger by using a red hot nail followed by some Dremel love. It fixed the echo, but it looks pretty ugly.
All in all, I am barely tolerating this case. Ali Express now has more bumper cases, and I ordered 3 different ones. At couple of bucks a piece they are pretty cheap. Hopefully at least one of them is better than Nillikin.
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tylerjames09 said:
Caseology case works perfect with the OEM wireless charging back. A little snug but can't tell when in hand.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00N4DIM0A/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?qid=1417664983&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70
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Any issues with buttons being too easy to press/accidental presses?
railshot said:
I had it for awhile (bought it directly from Ali Express). It works with the Qi cover, but otherwise I pretty much hate it:
1. It is a bit of a loose fit and the lip does not always go securely over the front edge of the phone.
2. The lip does not take into account the curved glass, so it's elevation over the surface of the glass is very minimal. I do not think it would provide any screen protection if the phone is dropped face down on the pavement (#1 contributes to this). This lip issue with curved glass seems to be an issue with other cases as well though.
3. Buttons are hard to press and identify by touch.
4. They placed and elevated Nillikin badge on the side of the phone that looks and feels like a button. What's worse it's located where power button would be if the phone was flipped upside down. This is extremely annoying because it makes it impossible to determine by touch if I am holding the phone correctly (and actually pressing a button).
5. The microphone holes, while aligned, create an echo when in speaker mode. Echo is bad enough to make the speaker mode unusable. I made the holes larger by using a red hot nail followed by some Dremel love. It fixed the echo, but it looks pretty ugly.
All in all, I am barely tolerating this case. Ali Express now has more bumper cases, and I ordered 3 different ones. At couple of bucks a piece they are pretty cheap. Hopefully at least one of them is better than Nillikin.
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Any issues with buttons being too easy to press/accidental presses?
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Yeah the power button is easier to press with the charging back.
tylerjames09 said:
Pics of Caseology with wireless charging back.
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Man that's ugly. Spoils the beauty of the Note 4.
Sorry Dude.
This is my first how-to thread, please rate and thank if you please.
I saw this mentioned in a previous XDA thread and decided to try it.
I found it pretty easy to do but be patient and have a light touch. This can ruin your accessories or phone, proceed at your own risk!
Let me know if this works for you and feel free to add your techniques and tricks! I will update the OP and add them to the guide.
Tools and supplies:
Flat head screwdriver or two with a thin blade (~3/8" is best don't use a microdriver)
Thin plastic card (insurance cards work well)
OEM Wireless charging back
Stock back cover (Optional if you have a snug case)
OPTIONAL: Spudger Set. (I didn't use mine but it won't hurt.)
OPTIONAL: Hair Dryer or heat gun.
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v1.1 Added head spreader removal
v1.2 Added heat gun suggestion
v1.3 Added video guide link to OP
v1.4 Added link to non-OEM Receivers
v1.5 Added suggestion to simply not use the stock back at all if you have a snug case.
v1.6 Added advice how to remove the "heat spreader".
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cbutters said:
Thanks for the guide.
I made a video tutorial for those who want to watch the process done.
http://youtu.be/E9j6Yvs1ufc
Props to BuddhaFool for this!
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Be aware there are are premade third party receiving coils which do not involve hacking apart perfectly good innocent hardware that did nothing to you and probably does not deserve to be treated this way. Several us of us have found that the OEM coil runs cooler and seem perform better but your milage may vary.
Here are some alternatives listed by cnlson:
cnlson said:
http://mugen.co/mugenizer-samsung-galaxy-note-4-wireless-charging-receiver-qi-standard.html
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...te 4 qi receiver&sprefix=note+4+qi+re,aps,246
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1. Gently wedge the screwblade in between the covers. Near the top under the headphone jack there is a nice spot.
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2. Move the screw driver slowly around the edges twisting it to pry apart the plastic pieces, working from top to bottom. On the bottom edge be careful not to damage the circuit board, just loosen the plastic surrounding it.
3. Repeat the process around the camera and speaker cut outs.
4. At this point you can pull apart the halves.
5. Unstick the edges of the bottom circuit board first. Just loosen the edges don't pop it out all the way. You can use the plastic card or a spudger. (I used the screwdriver here and was just very careful, use at your own risk.)
Alternatively:
homer285 said:
Great post thanks for sharing, I used a heat gun to loosen the glue and it came apart with no force or heavy pry tools. A hair dryer would work too and possibly a safer alternative to a screw driver or heat gun, but thats only my opinion.
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6. Push the contacts in from the back to give you an edge to start from. From this point on focus on minimizing the bending of the coil sheet. Try to keep it as flat as possible.
7. You can gently bend the entire plastic back around each edge this will make the glue start to unstick.
8. Insert the card under the top contact posts and slowly worry it down unsticking the coil. Again try to not sharply bend the sticker, patience is your friend here.
9. I found it useful to keep bending the plastic and sticking the card in deeper and deeper to keep my progress.
10. When I finished the last bit of glue the sticker popped off suddenly taking the circuit board with it. Glad I loosened that first.
10.5. Optional: Pry the metal tray for the circuit board out of the back cover as well. (Slip screwdriver into the crack and slide it popping out the plastic "rivets".) Place under the board in the next step. I did not do this at first, but after some reflection I think this might be a heat spreader to protect the circuitry from the battery. It has not impacted fit.
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One think I did differently on the hack- I was careful not to bend the metal heat shield. I then removed it by taking a small x-acto knife and cutting off the plastic heads from the rivets. I then bent the back around all four sides of the metal plate and removed it from the old back. After peeling the adhesive from around the edges I put it under the circuit board and then put the Note 4 back into the case I have.
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11. Put the Receiver coil sticker on your phone carefully aligning the contact posts.
12. The stock back closes snugly and securely. I read that some people had to file down the contact posts but that was not the case here.
13. It is now works wonderfully with my Ballistic Urbanite Case*. It is charging in both landscape and portrait.
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OK I am using my phone without the back (it is snug in my case) and it seems to be much less finicky. The stock battery door seems to be interfering.
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* - I loooove this case. It is so protective and slim. :good: I literally bought seven different cases. The best ones would never fit around that accursed OEM back and the third party recievers would overheat my phone. The ones that fit were either enormous slabs or under protective. Now that it fits I am such a happy a camper! :victory:
Great post thanks for sharing, I used a heat gun to loosen the glue and it came apart with no force or heavy pry tools. A hair dryer would work too and possibly a safer alternative to a screw driver or heat gun, but thats only my opinion.
When I had my Nokia 925 I removed the qi coil from the charging cover and imbedded it in the back cover so that it didn't need the case to charge. Worked great for over 6 months while I had the phone and is still working with my friends son who is using it now.
Thanks for the detailed write up.
homer285 said:
Great post thanks for sharing, I used a heat gun to loosen the glue and it came apart with no force or heavy pry tools. A hair dryer would work too and possibly a safer alternative to a screw driver or heat gun, but thats only my opinion.
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Unfortunately, the hair dryer trick did not work in my case. They used a LOT of glue and it cured pretty well - I ended up ripping up parts of the second plastic layer in 3 of the heaviest concentration of glue were. The poor cover looks wrecked..
Fortunately - I was able to extract the charging coils without any issues.
Does anyone have any issues with NFC? I am using a UAG TPU case and with the case on, NFC does not work. I'm wondering if it is the distance or if I damaged the NFC portion of the charger....
EDIT: NVM - I took out apart again and reseated everything - NFC is working again. I tried to cut one of the NFC pins - and accidentally snapped one of the pins off.. Everything still appears to work though, so not sure what it was for...
Thanks BhuddaFool for the pictures. (Already clicked on the Thanks button - hint, hint)
ksoze said:
Does anyone have any issues with NFC? I am using a UAG TPU case and with the case on, NFC does not work. I'm wondering if it is the distance or if I damaged the NFC portion of the charger.... :confused
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I don't use NFC sorry. Is there a quick test I can do to replicate?
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I don't use NFC sorry. Is there a quick test I can do to replicate?
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A fun way to test NFC would be to find a Credit card that has contact-less payment - Mastercard PayPass for example. Your phone needs to be active and unlocked, once you scan it, you should hear a beep. A fun app to pair with this is, AnyTag NFC Launcher- it will take the ID of the NFC tag and use that as a trigger to perform actions.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anytag.android&hl=en
Otherwise you would need another phone, or actual NFC tags - I eventually ended up buying a few NFC tags and have them at my desk, in my car etc.
I've edited my post - NFC is indeed working - looks like the pins were not in contact correctly before.
Thanks for the guide.
I made a video tutorial for those who want to watch the process done.
http://youtu.be/E9j6Yvs1ufc
Props to BuddhaFool for this!
I did this mod last weekend. NFC works fine without a case, I have some of the Samsung Techtiles and was able to test and program one.
Question though, I have 2 Q1 chargers; 1-Nokia (at home) and 1-Samsung mini (at work). The Nokia one gives me absolutely no issues at all with charging, but the Samsung one is now really (extremely) particular about placement. It wasn't like that prior to the mod, but now its more likely to flash the amber light than charge. I noticed the non-qi back plate has a very thin copper lining in one part that is covered by a very thin sticker film. Should that be removed? Any one else do this and experience similar issues with the Samsung mini charger?
I am glad it is working for you. FYI: I dug up an NFC chip and tried that app. Nice find and it works great through my Ballistic Urbanite case . I can't wait to setup my Airdock 2 with it. (It just arrived)
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Otherwise you would need another phone, or actual NFC tags - I eventually ended up buying a few NFC tags and have them at my desk, in my car etc.
I've edited my post - NFC is indeed working - looks like the pins were not in contact correctly before.
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I did this mod last weekend. NFC works fine without a case, I have some of the Samsung Techtiles and was able to test and program one.
Question though, I have 2 Q1 chargers; 1-Nokia (at home) and 1-Samsung mini (at work). The Nokia one gives me absolutely no issues at all with charging, but the Samsung one is now really (extremely) particular about placement. It wasn't like that prior to the mod, but now its more likely to flash the amber light than charge. I noticed the non-qi back plate has a very thin copper lining in one part that is covered by a very thin sticker film. Should that be removed? Any one else do this and experience similar issues with the Samsung mini charger?
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Sorry I have a TYLT Vu (work), a Keedox Qi Wireless 3-Coil (home) and a Airdock (car). It works fine portrait and landscape with all of those. It is possible that is more finicky too.
Interesting, I see that sticker you are referring to, I'll take your word that it has copper under there. Browsing Amazon it looks like even the cheap knock off battery doors have that strip too. Maybe it is a NFC antenna?
cbutters said:
Thanks for the guide.
I made a video tutorial for those who want to watch the process done.
http://youtu.be/E9j6Yvs1ufc
Props to BuddhaFool for this!
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Nice thanks for the vid, I still think you could have put much more heat in to it, would have made the job easier and safer than heavy prying.
I've done it with a hair dryer also but need to heat it for at least 5 minutes moving the dryer frequently not to isolate one area too long, but anyway great job and good clear vid dude.
OK I am using my phone without the back (it is snug in my case) and it seems to be much less finicky. The stock battery door seems to be interfering.
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I did this mod last weekend. NFC works fine without a case, I have some of the Samsung Techtiles and was able to test and program one.
Question though, I have 2 Q1 chargers; 1-Nokia (at home) and 1-Samsung mini (at work). The Nokia one gives me absolutely no issues at all with charging, but the Samsung one is now really (extremely) particular about placement. It wasn't like that prior to the mod, but now its more likely to flash the amber light than charge. I noticed the non-qi back plate has a very thin copper lining in one part that is covered by a very thin sticker film. Should that be removed? Any one else do this and experience similar issues with the Samsung mini charger?
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I got my original charging back today. This mod is something I want to try but all this thickness I guess is for a purpose to isolate heat from the battery.
Note 4
not meaning any disrespect for the thread but why wouldn't you just pick up a wireless charging element by itself so you didn't have to worry about breaking it disassembling it?
http://mugen.co/mugenizer-samsung-galaxy-note-4-wireless-charging-receiver-qi-standard.html
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...te 4 qi receiver&sprefix=note+4+qi+re,aps,246
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not meaning any disrespect for the thread but why wouldn't you just pick up a wireless charging element by itself so you didn't have to worry about breaking it disassembling it?
http://mugen.co/mugenizer-samsung-galaxy-note-4-wireless-charging-receiver-qi-standard.html
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...te 4 qi receiver&sprefix=note+4+qi+re,aps,246
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Thanks for the informative links I appreciate your feedback.
This is addressed in the OP. Some of us have had bad luck with the third party receivers, my phone got scary hot when I used one. This is thread is for those people.
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The third party receivers would overheat my phone.
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willstay said:
I got my original charging back today. This mod is something I want to try but all this thickness I guess is for a purpose to isolate heat from the battery.
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That could be. Fortunately it is running really cool with this setup. I promise to check in later if I have any issues that develop.
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not meaning any disrespect for the thread but why wouldn't you just pick up a wireless charging element by itself so you didn't have to worry about breaking it disassembling it?
http://mugen.co/mugenizer-samsung-galaxy-note-4-wireless-charging-receiver-qi-standard.html
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...te 4 qi receiver&sprefix=note+4+qi+re,aps,246
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Also - the majority of the receivers will block NFC for the Note 4 - since Samsung has placed the antenna for NFC onto the battery itself. The official Samsung cover includes a separate NFC antenna.
Another reason for going for the official cover is that it is generally very forgiving in terms of placement - due to the size of the coil. Some of the smaller aftermarket ones require that you place the phone off center or has to be placed just right for charging.
I too have also noticed concerning levels of heat generated with the - admittedly, cheap budget receiver that I purchased online. The second one that you linked from Amazon looks promising though.
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Also - the majority of the receivers will block NFC for the Note 4 - since Samsung has placed the antenna for NFC onto the battery itself.
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I bought the cheapest one for the Galaxy s3 and my wife has used it for charging her S3 for the past year+ and she uses NFC at work all the time (the coke machine uses softcard and they were giving away 50 free $1 purchases a month from feb til december last year) and even though the Qi receiver sits right on top of the battery there was no problem whatsoever with either the charging or the NFC.
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This is addressed in the OP. Some of us have had bad luck with the third party receivers, my phone got scary hot when I used one. This is thread is for those people.
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My apologies, I missed that line. I know with the one I got for my wife's S3, it gets warmer when it is not placed on the charging pad correctly since it doesn't get enough of a charge to keep up with the outgo.
out of curiosity, does the phone charge very quickly on the Qi charger? could I ask you to charge for an hour on the Qi and an hour plugged in to show the speed? (gsam battery monitor or the graph from the system battery monitor)
I'm curious how fast it actually charges, I assume it doesn't do the quick charge like plugging into the stock charger.
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I'm curious how fast it actually charges, I assume it doesn't do the quick charge like plugging into the stock charger.
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It seems to charge pretty quickly. I think charges about as fast as being plugged into a "normal" adapter but certainly not the blazing speed of the quick charger. I don't think I am going to be able to post any battery graphs.
buddhafool said:
It seems to charge pretty quickly. I think charges about as fast as being plugged into a "normal" adapter but certainly not the blazing speed of the quick charger. I don't think I am going to be able to post any battery graphs.
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thanks for the reply! I'll be looking into the cover since I have the 50% off coupon.
Hey all,
I just stumbled across this dock, has anyone given it a try yet? Looks very promising, although I can't find a ton of info about it.
http://www.amazon.com/Exelium-UPM200-Magnetized-Wireless-Mount/dp/B00SY5FBOS
and here's the official site:
http://www.exelium.net/index.php?page=33&ia=1418046573
There's also a receiver card with built in magnets for the Note 4:
http://www.amazon.com/Exelium-UPMSN4-Magnetized-Wireless-Receiver/dp/B00SY5FB7U
If it works well then this looks like it could be the answer to a LOT of people's wireless charging prayers! Any experiences or info would be greatly appreciated!
Exelium up qi dock
Hi
I have seen your comment on this forum. I am working for Exelium and I can tell you more about this concept.
Exelium has developed a concept which allow to combine magnet fixing system and wireless charging system.
For Galaxy note 4 and S5 we have made some patch receiver(wireless and magnet) that you can put easily by opening the back of the mobile and plug it in 2 seconds.
Then you can plug and charge your Galaxy Note 4 on our different stations : Home (wall mount), car (windshield or dashboard mount), office (desk mount).
We can go on our website and watch our videos in our Youtube channel.
I hope that my explanations help you.
In US we are now in amazon, soon in best buy but also b&Hphotovideo
Best regards
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Hi
I have seen your comment on this forum. I am working for Exelium and I can tell you more about this concept.
Exelium has developed a concept which allow to combine magnet fixing system and wireless charging system.
For Galaxy note 4 and S5 we have made some patch receiver(wireless and magnet) that you can put easily by opening the back of the mobile and plug it in 2 seconds.
Then you can plug and charge your Galaxy Note 4 on our different stations : Home (wall mount), car (windshield or dashboard mount), office (desk mount).
We can go on our website and watch our videos in our Youtube channel.
I hope that my explanations help you.
In US we are now in amazon, soon in best buy but also b&Hphotovideo
Best regards
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Wow, speedy response from the manufacturer, nice! I'd love some more info on how strong the magnets are, I personally am very attached to my S-View cover and would be very interested to know whether the magnets in the Exelium Up will hold the Note 4 even with the S-View flap in the way. Have you done any testing to this effect, or can you comment on whether the Up will work with an S-View cover? I imagine that the same question would apply for anyone using a case as well.
Thanks for the attention!
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Wow, speedy response from the manufacturer, nice! I'd love some more info on how strong the magnets are, I personally am very attached to my S-View cover and would be very interested to know whether the magnets in the Exelium Up will hold the Note 4 even with the S-View flap in the way. Have you done any testing to this effect, or can you comment on whether the Up will work with an S-View cover? I imagine that the same question would apply for anyone using a case as well.
Thanks for the attention!
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I know that we have made some tests but I need to check with my designer to give you accurate comment. Of course our concept is working at best without big case or extra thickness. I think that charging is working well but case can reduce a bit the magnet process even if our magnet are good quality.
Good concept, Will it work with a case? How long does it charge a Note 4 (how many percent per hour)
Hello
The performance is about 80% compared to standard lightening cable but as the system is combined with magnet fixing system, you have to consider that you optimize each time the charging process because when you are in your car, you plug and it's charging and same at the office and home!
It works with case but bigger is the case less the performance will be .
Thanks again for all the information, it's nice to see a manufacturer paying attention to user forums like this. One more question, does the receiver patch interfere with NFC, or will NFC still function with it installed? If NFC does remain functional, is it because the patch has the antenna and connections for NFC built into it, or is it just positioned so that it doesn't cover the NFC antenna in the battery? Also I'd still love to hear your designer's opinion on compatibility with the S-View case. Thanks!
soul777toast said:
Thanks again for all the information, it's nice to see a manufacturer paying attention to user forums like this. One more question, does the receiver patch interfere with NFC, or will NFC still function with it installed? If NFC does remain functional, is it because the patch has the antenna and connections for NFC built into it, or is it just positioned so that it doesn't cover the NFC antenna in the battery? Also I'd still love to hear your designer's opinion on compatibility with the S-View case. Thanks!
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Hello
Sorry for late reply. The NFC can works but it's more complicated to make works it. We need to be closer!
Does the magnet qi receiver add any bulge to the back? I'm quite close to pulling the trigger on this, what's the warranty?
ChronoReverse said:
Does the magnet qi receiver add any bulge to the back? I'm quite close to pulling the trigger on this, what's the warranty?
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Hello
On the S5 and note 4 that we have you can not see the bulge to the back, of course if you put from tha back,your finger at the magnet locations you feel them a bit.
For the warranty, we have 2 years warranty
Irritating so far...
HFOURQUET said:
Hello
On the S5 and note 4 that we have you can not see the bulge to the back, of course if you put from tha back,your finger at the magnet locations you feel them a bit.
For the warranty, we have 2 years warranty
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Been interested in getting this for my Galaxy Note 4.
Actually purchased already through Amazon. The only problem is, the universal patch to attach to my phone is apparently backordered. The dock itself (of course) doesn't come with any other means to utilize it. I've tried other metal plates, but of course, the metal plates will block the Qi charging capability, so for the moment, I'm stuck with either being able to mount the phone and not charge it, or being able to charge it, but not mount it.
Just rather annoying so far. Going to try looking in Michael's or some other craft store to see if I can't find my own small metal discs and 3M adhesive to utilize this mount.
The mount should be bundled with the magnets for the back cover. Let us know how you get on.
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The mount should be bundled with the magnets for the back cover. Let us know how you get on.
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No, it's plainly stated before ordering and on the box that the magnet for your back cover isn't included.
My issue is wondering why I'd order both, but the mount is in stock, yet the magnets for the back of the phone aren't.
Like I said, for the time being, I'm trying to find small metal discs that might work over the magnet points to get it working.
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Since It's been over a week since my Exelium Qi dock has arrived and still no word on whether or not the universal patches for the back of my phone will even be in stock, I went ahead and got a bit creative.
Found 4 metal discs at a local Hobby Lobby in their jewelry section, some white vinyl cut to size and done. One thing of note, I originally attempted to use a metal plate like the ones found in the Scosche magic mount. While the plate works to attach the phone to the dock, it blocks wireless charging.
The dock so far seems to work quite well.
It does not, however, charge faster than (for example) continuously watching Netflix would drain your battery. At best, this would keep the battery from draining as fast, but from most Wireless dock reviews I've found, this seems to be relatively common. It will charge your phone up if you aren't using the phone too heavily. Running Netflix continuously for 2.5 hours, the battery drain was from 100% to approx 86%, so I'd say it's pretty decent.
For the moment, I'm using the 2.4Amp output charger coupled with a regular USB cable. I haven't tried using a fast charging capable USB cable yet however to see if it would charge any better/faster. In my home experiments with a fast charging cable+proper charger, it really won't change the charging output much if at all.
I like the dock design, and of all the available Qi mounts out there, I tend to prefer this idea/design the most. However, this is pretty much 1 of 2 out there that I know of that is a magnetic mount. (AirDock being the only other one out there I'm aware of). The current price on Amazon for this is pretty fair, especially compared to other docks and it's about half the price of the AirDock.
So far, the only real knock/annoyance is getting/finding a proper way to attach the phone to the dock.
I thought I might try AirDock's magnetic stickers to see if this might work in the meantime while waiting for Exelium's magnetic patch.
Sad to say, the AirDock's stickers are horribly inadequate to hold up the weight of a Note 4. I almost wonder if they'd be adequate for any phone as their stickers pretty much amount to what looks like a pre-cut sticker with 4 wafer thin discs of metal in the right places (and I mean, as thin as a sheet of aluminum foil, thin). They do line up perfectly with the Exelium's dock magnets however, so at least I now have a pre-cut template to make my own stickers in the future.
Anyone know what kind of magnets are in the mount?
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Anyone know what kind of magnets are in the mount?
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Not sure I follow? I'm guessing neodymium magnets of some sort. They have a better hold than the average refrigerator or craft magnets I've seen. Just not sure how it matters?
Well I was using the mountek magnetic ngroove snap as a dock with my galaxy s6 without a backplate and it actually held the phone up pretty well not great but good enough, but when I switched to the exelium dock as a mount it doesn't hold as well, and just keeps slipping off. I don't know if the magnets are different or what but the only thing I can think of is that the ngroove snap has a grippy rubber sticker over the magnets and the exelium is just a white plastic cover. I'll probably just end up removing the white plastic cover and replace it with something with more grip.
glyphx said:
Well I was using the mountek magnetic ngroove snap as a dock with my galaxy s6 without a backplate and it actually held the phone up pretty well not great but good enough, but when I switched to the exelium dock as a mount it doesn't hold as well, and just keeps slipping off. I don't know if the magnets are different or what but the only thing I can think of is that the ngroove snap has a grippy rubber sticker over the magnets and the exelium is just a white plastic cover. I'll probably just end up removing the white plastic cover and replace it with something with more grip.
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Ahh, I experimented with that, and this is the conclusion I came to;
The Mountek (I found a scosche version) magnet uses 4 little neodymium magnets together making a large surface area to create that pull.
Docks like the Exelium UP and (likely) the AirDock2 have to keep the 4 magnets around the edge/perimeter of the dock since the wireless charging coils are right in the center. A big plate like that from the Mountek works pretty nicely on the Exelium, but the problem I found was that the big plate also blocks the wireless charging coil from working.
It's why I took to finding 4 smaller discs to use on each of the 4 magnets around the edges to generate enough pull from the magnets to hold my Note 4 up to the docks.
I have one minor worry about using a magnet that strong: The S-Pen.
The wacom digitizer works by using a low level magnetic field. I put my Note 4 on a PMA wireless pad I have laying around, which actually worked with the wireless charging in the phone (this is sometimes the case, but not always, regarding cross-compatibility between the two standards). However, I made sure to test the S-Pen while it was on the pad, and lo and behold the pen barely recognized in the area near the PMA charging coil., and that was only if I applied SIGNIFICANT pressure.
The reason PMA pads caused this is that the coil also acted as a magnet strong enough to hold the phone in place. It's already known that magnetic cases cause damage to the Wacom digitizer after a few days of exposure, and those a comparatively weak magnets.
My worry is pretty much that if the magnets you're using are strong enough to dock, that they are also strong enough to permanently damage the Wacom digitizer, and make using the S-Pen impossible. Have these docks been extensively tested to make sure this is not the case?
Though LG has not yet released their Qi back yet or any information regarding when they plan to, I've seen the Qi wireless charging receiver sticker for sale on eBay.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=161882804405&alt=web
papalion said:
Though LG has not yet released their Qi back yet or any information regarding when they plan to, I've seen the Qi wireless charging receiver sticker for sale on eBay.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=161882804405&alt=web
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Damn I would like to wait first for either something genuine or reviews about this one, cuz it comes straight from china, I don't want to see my phone catching fire:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Took the plunge
yoniinfante said:
Damn I would like to wait first for either something genuine or reviews about this one, cuz it comes straight from china, I don't want to see my phone catching fire:laugh::laugh::laugh:
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$12 is worth the risk. I feel in love with wireless charging for my G3.
Dartin Bout said:
$12 is worth the risk. I feel in love with wireless charging for my G3.
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Worth risking twelve bucks if it just plain doesn't work. But like yoniinfante said, maybe not worth risking cost of new phone if it catches fire.
wow i might get this i did get them for the notes from china and they were great, and they dont catch fire the power out put isnt high enough but there is no fast charing on those things well untill they up the voltes which might stop your cell signal.
How would it catch fire.. lol its just a coil. They sell diy kits.
Anyways here's some backs with nfc and qi stickers already installed. Links thanks to OP.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017SA59C8/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_MrEqwb19WDEKJ?th=1&psc=1
http://m.ebay.com/itm/281853142038?_mwBanner=1&varId=580832449272
And nfc + qi stickers for less than $4;
Http://m.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-Stic...p-Sticker-for-LG-V10-/351574501640?nav=SEARCH
clockcycle said:
How would it catch fire.. lol its just a coil. They sell diy kits.
Anyways here's some backs with nfc and qi stickers already installed. Links thanks to OP.
And nfc + qi stickers for less than $4;
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Can the chips/sticker's be installed with the stock back cover or does it have to have a new cover?
djpelosi said:
Can the chips/sticker's be installed with the stock back cover or does it have to have a new cover?
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Stickers can be put on your back cover but you're gonna have to remove your old one. Ive done it on my G4. YMMV at your own risk!
but there is no fast charing on those things well untill they up the voltes which might stop your cell signal.
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Doesn't fast charging have more to do with the current (amps) delivered by the charger and the logic in the phone's charging circuit than with the Qi sticker?
Choetech does have a fast Qi charger that they claim is compatible with Samsung Note and S6 edge.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015351VC2/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_2tKqwbQ2P1TFZ
Does anybody know if it would it be able to fast-charge an LG V10 with an aftermarket Qi sticker, or will it just charge at slower speed?
I just ordered this one from AMAZON,a pre-assembled QI/NFC enabled cover.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0... for LG V10&qid=1447188494&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
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While it closely resembles the OEM cover,the material is a hard plastic,according to a description from another seller on e-Bay.
I went with AMAZON this time,as this one is currently 1/2 the price of the indentical one from e-Bay.
EDIT:
Now that I've re-read the description,this one too says it is of (p)leather construction.
So,I'm guessing this listing is just as the others,but,using a render of the OEM Cover w/some editing (V10 Branding is absent,otherwise,a dead ringer for the original).
Either way,it's an inexpensive cover,it'll do regardless,but,still waiting for the real deal from LG to become available...............................
KOLIOXDA said:
I just ordered this one from AMAZON,a pre-assembled QI/NFC enabled cover.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0... for LG V10&qid=1447188494&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
While it closely resembles the OEM cover,the material is a hard plastic,according to a description from another seller on e-Bay.
I went with AMAZON this time,as this one is currently 1/2 the price of the indentical one from e-Bay.
EDIT:
Now that I've re-read the description,this one too says it is of (p)leather construction.
So,I'm guessing this listing is just as the others,but,using a render of the OEM Cover w/some editing (V10 Branding is absent,otherwise,a dead ringer for the original).
Either way,it's an inexpensive cover,it'll do regardless,but,still waiting for the real deal from LG to become available...............................
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It also says "Replaces NFC only sticker inside original back cover to allow QI wireless charging along with near field communication."
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It also says "Replaces NFC only sticker inside original back cover to allow QI wireless charging along with near field communication."
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Yeah, it seems to contradict itself, just a translation thing, I believe, as the description clearly addresses both the sticker & the cover.
I'll contact the seller to verify both the appearance & what is included & update when I get a response.
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Yeah, it seems to contradict itself, just a translation thing, I believe, as the description clearly addresses both the sticker & the cover.
I'll contact the seller to verify both the appearance & what is included & update when I get a response.
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Tried to find one someplace other than China but no luck. I'm going to roll the dice and hope that now that they are being produced, I can get one from a US seller sooner than when Amazon and eBay promise delivery in mid-late December. With my luck, it won't happen, but I'll give it a shot. :silly:
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Tried to find one someplace other than China but no luck. I'm going to roll the dice and hope that now that they are being produced, I can get one from a US seller sooner than when Amazon and eBay promise delivery in mid-late December. With my luck, it won't happen, but I'll give it a shot. :silly:
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Not too worried about delivery dates @ these prices, regardless of where it's coming from.
Once the free battery kit arrives, I'll seldom plug-in or wireless charge.
It's nice to have though, I'd rather have it & not need it than vice versa.....
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Not too worried about delivery dates @ these prices, regardless of where it's coming from.
Once the free battery kit arrives, I'll seldom plug-in or wireless charge.
It's nice to have though, I'd rather have it & not need it than vice versa.....
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That's an excellent point. At that price, probably can't afford NOT to pick one or more up.... You've talked me into it! :highfive:
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It also says "Replaces NFC only sticker inside original back cover to allow QI wireless charging along with near field communication."
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The second picture shows that the case has a front flap. All the ones I have seen use the same image.
I hate that kind of case... Can you confirm it doesn't have that?
Thank you
rawdikrik said:
The second picture shows that the case has a front flap. All the ones I have seen use the same image.
I hate that kind of case... Can you confirm it doesn't have that?
Thank you
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I'll contact the seller.
I'm with you, if this indeed has the front flap, I'll be disappointed, I can't stand these cases, holding/handling the phone with such is awkward.
rawdikrik said:
The second picture shows that the case has a front flap. All the ones I have seen use the same image.
I hate that kind of case... Can you confirm it doesn't have that?
Thank you
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Got an initial response from the seller just moments ago :
They thought I was talking about the color choices.
I re-iterated my question for clarity & requested actual photos of what was being shipped.
I'll keep you posted on whether this is a battery cover only,or,a flip case w/charging capabilities.
I'm still hoping for the former,I've tried several flip cases & no one has mastered a design that works well when the flap is folded back,I.E.,they all suck.
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rawdikrik said:
The second picture shows that the case has a front flap. All the ones I have seen use the same image.
I hate that kind of case... Can you confirm it doesn't have that?
Thank you
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WOW,these guys respond rather quickly,definitely a good sign:
They've stated that this is indeed a BATTERY COVER ONLY,not a flip case & are editing the listing for the incorrect picture as we speak.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017SP5ODW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Errant pic not edited out at the time of this post,but,at least they've communicated to me what exactly is shipping.
yoniinfante said:
Damn I would like to wait first for either something genuine or reviews about this one, cuz it comes straight from china, I don't want to see my phone catching fire:laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Everything is made in China, hahaha
KOLIOXDA said:
They've stated that this is indeed a BATTERY COVER ONLY,not a flip case & are editing the listing for the incorrect picture as we speak.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...A6R
Do you think we are getting the same one?
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I was going to post this in the original Zerolemon post but it seems to have disappeared.
Disclaimer: I received this case for free to test and review.
The look and feel
I was planning on doing this review after a week of having the case but due to some personal issues that came up I did not have the means or the time to do so. Fortunately that gave me about a month to do an in depth testing of the case. The Zerolemon case first and foremost is an asthetically pleasing case in my opinion even if it did not come with the built in battery (more on the battery aspect in a bit). I prefer some weight to my phone so that was actually a bonus for me. For those who would not like that, it does add quite a bit of weight to the device and about twice the thickness so be warned. I do not use samsung pay so I can not comment if the thickness effects the feature. The case at first glance looks as if it would be slick and easy to drop, fortunately upon handeling it has a very good feel and is extremely easy to keep a hold on. The hole that is cut out for the camera (while being pleasing to the eye) does tend to capture a lot of loose dust and other debris due to its bowl shape so be prepared to clean the camera every couple of days for clear picture quality. The front has a very slight raise all around the edge of the phone adding a degree of protection if the phone is dropped straight on the face. This has actually saved me from a drop once when I first received the case which was extremely pleasing. The case also the sound directed out of the front of the phone instead of the bottom which while in theory is nice actually degraded the quality of the sound in my opinion and did not boost the volume. I am by no means a audiophile so I am not the best to judge if that is in fact the case. the 3.5mm headphone jack is at the bottom of a deep hole made in the case and can cause some trouble getting your headphones plugged in without their included adapter. While somewhat of an inconvienence it did not bother me much due to using wireless headphones most of the time. Now that we are done with the asthetics on to the main attraction of this type of case, the battery.
The Battery and assembly
The Zerolemon case has a removable battery that is placed inside the case with a micro usb male to male adapter. The male obviously is inserted in your phone while the other is inserted into the external battery itself. When this is done the battery is on the bottom back half of your phone and then is inserted into the slot cutout in the inside of the case itself. The battery was extremely easy to attatch and insert the phone into the case. The new charging port is on the battery itself and now located on the left side of the case if you are looking at the phone from the screen side. I actually find this an extreme improvement due to the cord no longer being in the way while in use while charging. The case has a large button to check the battery status from four rectangular LED indicating lights or to actually turn on the charging functionality is located on the lower back of the case with the generic power symbol engraved in the center and is almost flush with the back of the case. It is easy to find by feel due to the engraved symbol. Right abouve the button is a very nicely engraved Zerolemon logo. While charging the phone with the case on it will charge the phone fully first and then begin charging the phone which is a convenient feature if you need to unplug before charging is finished. To fully charge the case without the phone takes about 2-3 hours from my experience so it is not a quick affair. I charge my phone while I sleep so it was not a negative for me. Once you begin charging the phone by holding down the back power button for about 2 seconds it charges fairly quickly. Unfortunately it never charged more than about 60% of my phone battery before it died. Which by no means is bad but I do wish it could do more given the extra size it adds to the phone.
Final thoughts
In conclusion, for the price of this case it is an extremely well made product and has been very useful when I need to use my phone heavily during the day. It isn't the best in it's class but once you factor in price compared to other alternatives and the build quality it is a very good contender. I would and have recommended this case to friends and family.
I hope this review has been helpful and if you feel that I have left anything out don't hesitate to let me know.
Link http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ZeroLemon-carriers-Warranty-Guarantee/dp/B00WF9F9IM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1454791890&sr=8-1&keywords=edge+%2B+zerolemon
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can you put some photos please?
Link please?
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I find zerolemon very sketchy.... they asked all my info awhile ago,beginning of january saying they will send me a 8500mah case and battery at the end of january.... its february and i messaged them and they dont contact me back??? I go to sammobile and the 8500mah case was released 3 days ago??? Well zerolemon,you lost a possible customer and i wanted them to know..... dont take peoples personal info for nothing.... BAD BUSINESS GUYS!!! Well, ill just run what i got stock cause it dont bother me...ZEROLEMON YOU GUYS SUCK! AND THATS MY REVIEW OF YOUR PRODUCTS
podagee said:
I find zerolemon very sketchy.... they asked all my info awhile ago,beginning of january saying they will send me a 8500mah case and battery at the end of january.... its february and i messaged them and they dont contact me back??? I go to sammobile and the 8500mah case was released 3 days ago??? Well zerolemon,you lost a possible customer and i wanted them to know..... dont take peoples personal info for nothing.... BAD BUSINESS GUYS!!! Well, ill just run what i got stock cause it dont bother me...ZEROLEMON YOU GUYS SUCK! AND THATS MY REVIEW OF YOUR PRODUCTS
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I also opted for review as well and they sent me a note 3 days back saying they shipped my case. I'm still waiting for it. I hope you will get yours soon.
I have the same zerolemon case, the backup battery has many times charged my phone to full charge while on the road, and this from as low as 8 % battery remaining. it takes a few hours, but charges to full with 2 out of 4 bars remaining on the zerolemon battery life indicator. Recently the male to male connector is getting a bit touchy, and sometimes needs ajolt to connect correctly, but not a big issue.
So they finally messaged me back saying they shipped the case. Hopefully ill get it soon
So i just got the zerolemon 8500mah case and guess what? They sent me one for a note 5.... i am not going to deal with the trouble of waiting again and going through the hassle.
Is this case no longer being made? I found one on Amazon but it was $199 and the cheapest I could find on eBay was over $200!
podagee said:
So i just got the zerolemon 8500mah case and guess what? They sent me one for a note 5.... i am not going to deal with the trouble of waiting again and going through the hassle.
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My gal sure could use it if you still have it and don't want it.
pyroemaniac said:
I was going to post this in the original Zerolemon post but it seems to have disappeared.
Disclaimer: I received this case for free to test and review.
The look and feel
I was planning on doing this review after a week of having the case but due to some personal issues that came up I did not have the means or the time to do so. Fortunately that gave me about a month to do an in depth testing of the case. The Zerolemon case first and foremost is an asthetically pleasing case in my opinion even if it did not come with the built in battery (more on the battery aspect in a bit). I prefer some weight to my phone so that was actually a bonus for me. For those who would not like that, it does add quite a bit of weight to the device and about twice the thickness so be warned. I do not use samsung pay so I can not comment if the thickness effects the feature. The case at first glance looks as if it would be slick and easy to drop, fortunately upon handeling it has a very good feel and is extremely easy to keep a hold on. The hole that is cut out for the camera (while being pleasing to the eye) does tend to capture a lot of loose dust and other debris due to its bowl shape so be prepared to clean the camera every couple of days for clear picture quality. The front has a very slight raise all around the edge of the phone adding a degree of protection if the phone is dropped straight on the face. This has actually saved me from a drop once when I first received the case which was extremely pleasing. The case also the sound directed out of the front of the phone instead of the bottom which while in theory is nice actually degraded the quality of the sound in my opinion and did not boost the volume. I am by no means a audiophile so I am not the best to judge if that is in fact the case. the 3.5mm headphone jack is at the bottom of a deep hole made in the case and can cause some trouble getting your headphones plugged in without their included adapter. While somewhat of an inconvienence it did not bother me much due to using wireless headphones most of the time. Now that we are done with the asthetics on to the main attraction of this type of case, the battery.
The Battery and assembly
The Zerolemon case has a removable battery that is placed inside the case with a micro usb male to male adapter. The male obviously is inserted in your phone while the other is inserted into the external battery itself. When this is done the battery is on the bottom back half of your phone and then is inserted into the slot cutout in the inside of the case itself. The battery was extremely easy to attatch and insert the phone into the case. The new charging port is on the battery itself and now located on the left side of the case if you are looking at the phone from the screen side. I actually find this an extreme improvement due to the cord no longer being in the way while in use while charging. The case has a large button to check the battery status from four rectangular LED indicating lights or to actually turn on the charging functionality is located on the lower back of the case with the generic power symbol engraved in the center and is almost flush with the back of the case. It is easy to find by feel due to the engraved symbol. Right abouve the button is a very nicely engraved Zerolemon logo. While charging the phone with the case on it will charge the phone fully first and then begin charging the phone which is a convenient feature if you need to unplug before charging is finished. To fully charge the case without the phone takes about 2-3 hours from my experience so it is not a quick affair. I charge my phone while I sleep so it was not a negative for me. Once you begin charging the phone by holding down the back power button for about 2 seconds it charges fairly quickly. Unfortunately it never charged more than about 60% of my phone battery before it died. Which by no means is bad but I do wish it could do more given the extra size it adds to the phone.
Final thoughts
In conclusion, for the price of this case it is an extremely well made product and has been very useful when I need to use my phone heavily during the day. It isn't the best in it's class but once you factor in price compared to other alternatives and the build quality it is a very good contender. I would and have recommended this case to friends and family.
I hope this review has been helpful and if you feel that I have left anything out don't hesitate to let me know.
Link http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ZeroLemon-carriers-Warranty-Guarantee/dp/B00WF9F9IM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1454791890&sr=8-1&keywords=edge+%2B+zerolemon
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SUCKS, could you stop ad this...?
why not use original QI, if just have 3500AH
http://www.ultrastore.com.au/collec...clip-on-wireless-battery-pack-back-cover-case