I find myself in need of a large extended battery and the two most talked about seem to be the Anker 7800 and the Zerolemon 7500. They both have good reviews on Amazon and there seems to be arguments for both on XDA. Some reviews say the Anker comes with a better case but I do like the idea of the ZL rugged case but I'm guessing it could be used with the Anker battery. Does anyone have first hand experience with these on the s4 that can provide advice?
I use hyperion because of NFC.
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I find myself in need of a large extended battery and the two most talked about seem to be the Anker 7800 and the Zerolemon 7500. They both have good reviews on Amazon and there seems to be arguments for both on XDA. Some reviews say the Anker comes with a better case but I do like the idea of the ZL rugged case but I'm guessing it could be used with the Anker battery. Does anyone have first hand experience with these on the s4 that can provide advice?
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I actually just ordered the ZL 7500 + TPU Case AND the Rugged Case on Amazon. However, I won't get them until Monday. I'll post back with results.
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I find myself in need of a large extended battery and the two most talked about seem to be the Anker 7800 and the Zerolemon 7500. They both have good reviews on Amazon and there seems to be arguments for both on XDA. Some reviews say the Anker comes with a better case but I do like the idea of the ZL rugged case but I'm guessing it could be used with the Anker battery. Does anyone have first hand experience with these on the s4 that can provide advice?
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I own both and the ZL rugged case. The Anker fits very tightly into the rugged case. I like the Anker more because it's 300mah larger & doesn't cover the speaker.
Also, for whatever reason, my phone seems to be able to calculate the battery percentage of the Anker better than it does the ZeroLemon. I think it's because the Anker is exactly 3x the stock size while the ZL isn't.
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I find myself in need of a large extended battery and the two most talked about seem to be the Anker 7800 and the Zerolemon 7500. They both have good reviews on Amazon and there seems to be arguments for both on XDA. Some reviews say the Anker comes with a better case but I do like the idea of the ZL rugged case but I'm guessing it could be used with the Anker battery. Does anyone have first hand experience with these on the s4 that can provide advice?
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I use the Anker 5200 without a case on it. And it works well. I also have the Anker 7600..
The 5200 gets me 3 days, and the 7600 is around 4 days.
The 7600 is a real brick, so I only use it, when I really need a long lasting battery and am traveling all day.
I've been using the Anker 7800 mAh for the last week or so & it seems to do pretty well.
I needed a rugged case that the Anker 7800 would fit in & the closest one that looked sturdy enough to do the job is the ZL. I had to trim about 1/16" inch (1/32 or so on each side) from the inside edges of the 2 sides on the inner skeleton of the case. Maybe I could have gotten by without doing that but it felt like I might break it or not be able to snap the front & back pieces together properly without making a little more room. It wasn't bad. It would have gone a little quicker using a dremel but I had a utility knife handy so I used it instead. It just took a little patience and care in order to be sure to not break the piece.
The case fits very snugly. With the raised volume & power buttons and the cover flaps on the power & headphone ports, it actually seems a lot like the Otter Box case my wife & daughter use on their S3 & S4. If Otter Box made a case for the extended battery I would have used that instead. Anyway, I didn't need any of the shims or optional back cover plate (removable to accommodate a battery larger than the ZL 7500). If that sounds confusing, you'll see what I mean when you get the case or check out a review on Youtube.
The Pros on the ZL case:
-This case definitely accommodates the Anker 7800 mAh battery.
-The case seems relatively solid and well made
-the raised power and volume buttons are easy to feel
-relatively sturdy cover flaps for the power and headphone ports
-the cameras, mics, sensors and speaker are open sufficiently for all functions to work properly
The only cons for me are:
- Step one of the instructions isn't very clear. I had to go to Youtube & see someone take it apart. It makes sense once you see it, but the instructions don't explain the initial taking the outer shell off very well.
-the outer TPU case fits on so snugly that it was a pain to take apart out of the package and a little bit of a pain putting the outer case back on. It's designed like that so there's no way it'll come undone accidentally so long as you put it on correctly. This con is also a huge pro! The other negative about the case being so securely made is that it's a bit of a pain to take it off when you need to remove your battery or ext SD card. Don't have an accident where it gets wet and you need to get the battery out in a hurry. There's a little lip on the edges of both the inner skeleton and the outer TPU cover that interlock. Definitely a nice snug fit.
-While the TPU case does have tiny bumps/studs on the sides to improve grip, the overall case doesn't have quite the rubbery grip I liked on my Seidio case for my EVO 4G. While it's not ideal, the grip is reasonably decent. I don't think I'll drop it easily.
- The built in screen protector SUCKS! (excuse the capital letters, that's not a shout, just emphatic) Sorry ZL but big fail on that one and if you look at the reviews, most others make the same complaint. It sits just a tiny bit above the screen so that you can't just touch the screen. Instead you have to press the screen protector down until it makes contact with the screen. It's only attached around the edges by some double sided tape so it's not hard to get rid of it. The quality of the screen protector seems a bit substandard. It reminds me of the plastic they use for the clear plastic clam shell packaging you see on Energizer batteries and so many other products. You can find much better screen protectors that are glare & smudge resistant.
-Lack of a kickstand. (but I just robbed the kickstand off the CRAPPY Seidio extended cover case I got for my S4 initially & stuck that on the back). The included carrying case gives you a kickstand but the case / holster is just too clunky for my taste. I need a case that absolutely cannot fall off or and the phone absolutely cannot fall out of (checkout "Ripoffs" cases by U.S. Armor, made for law enforcement/military/emergency services). Ripoffs cases have to be deliberately taken off. They are ultra secure on your belt or when just clipping them to the top of my pants pocket. The CO-83 is a good fit for this phone/battery/case combination and it has a little pocket inside where you can put a spare SD, thumb drive and/or micro usb otg cable.
As far as the battery, just one con, being the weight. You're definitely going to feel the difference but if you're considering extended battery you probably won't care. I don't mind it being a brick so long as it functions for me.
I'd recommend them both!
Zerolemon 7500 quick review
So after some pretty heavy testing, I'm finding that the battery does phenomenally well running android 4.4.2 (GoldenEye ROMs). Since it wasn't running stock, I applied my normal power saving measures (KT Kernel, profiles, TW powersaving mode, tasker GPS profile). The best I saw was 3 days with 15.5 hours of screen-on time. More recently, I've been seeing 2 days with 12 hours or so with screen-on time. That's likely due to my experimentation with different configurations. One of the most maddening things about this battery is actually trying to kill it. That last 2% of battery life goes on forever. I ordered the Zerolemon superfast charger (which, by the way, isn't superfast at all). It seems to charge faster using the standard Samsung charger. However, it helps when charging the battery I'm not using after a swap out. I've gotten pretty used to the added bulk and weight - so much so that using the stock battery makes me marvel at how light the phone actually is (even in the Zerolemon rugged case).
I am looking between the Anker and the ZL right now.
I have been reading that the Anker case is very slippery. Is this true? Does the Anker cover the face of the phone on the sides, to protect the screen?
I've used both zero lemon and anker. I prefer anker. For me i get better battery life even those the anker is smaller in capacity
ZL poor long term battery
My experience going through 2 ZL 7500 batteries is that they're great in the first couple of months at giving amazing battery life, but the performance loses out pretty significantly months later in. I've gotta say their customer service is great in replacing stuff, but at the same time its a pain to have poor longevity in its quality. I think I'm gunna order the Anker and give that a go. Anyone know if there's any battery like with nfc though?
I love this battery. I got a GS4 with a bad ESN (f'kn craigslist). Reported it but the cops couldn't do anything. So I did what any XDA member would do....convert to a gaming device! Fully charged it and ran it all day and night yesterday and this morning. Pictures, video, music, games, etc...
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I'm very content with the Anker 7800. I need a protective case so I'm gonna try that Zero Lemon case.
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I love this battery. I got a GS4 with a bad ESN (f'kn craigslist). Reported it but the cops couldn't do anything. So I did what any XDA member would do....convert to a gaming device! Fully charged it and ran it all day and night yesterday and this morning. Pictures, video, music, games, etc...
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I'm very content with the Anker 7800. I need a protective case so I'm gonna try that Zero Lemon case.
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the zero lemon case doesn't fit the anker battery 7800
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the zero lemon case doesn't fit the anker battery 7800
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It does. Can't wait to get it here. Use this phone to jog around and the anker case doesn't cut for drops on the move.
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It does. Can't wait to get it here. Use this phone to jog around and the anker case doesn't cut for drops on the move.
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i got both ,but it ZL case doesnt fit the Anker battery
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i got both ,but it ZL case doesnt fit the Anker battery
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You may have to trim yours. Users on the first part of this thread state it does.
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You may have to trim yours. Users on the first part of this thread state it does.
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any video ?
I have both the ZL and anker 7800mah. I am using the anker now because the case it much nicer and better quality and is solid.
Also I was having signal problem with the ZL but none with the anker. This could be because zerolemon covers the bottom antenna but the anker is quite shorter and doesn't. I think Anker is overall much better made and designed apart from the fact it doesn't have NFC
How did you shave the ZL case?
I would do that if I knew how. I like the ZL case and battery but the Anker 7800 lasts longer but slightly too big for the ZL case.
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I put my original battery in the case with adapter.
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I find myself in need of a large extended battery and the two most talked about seem to be the Anker 7800 and the Zerolemon 7500. They both have good reviews on Amazon and there seems to be arguments for both on XDA. Some reviews say the Anker comes with a better case but I do like the idea of the ZL rugged case but I'm guessing it could be used with the Anker battery. Does anyone have first hand experience with these on the s4 that can provide advice?
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I got the Hyperion Samsung Droid Charge i510 3500mAh Extended Battery from Amazon 5 days ago and have been training the battery; draining it to shutdown before charging it again.
I did initialize the battery statistics once it's fully charged the first time. It takes about 3 hours to charge the battery from 99% empty (it shuts down at 1%). It really is a hassle to do one cycle of charging and discharging with this battery. lol. I ended up streaming War and Peace movie off Netflix running on wifi or 4G to discharge whatever juice is left on the battery. So far, the battery capacity seems to continue increasing after each battery training cycle.
I'm happy with it. On the last cycle, I got 25 hours and 15 minutes. YMMV.
The Hyperion Extended Battery Silicone Case is in the mail.
Thanks for the info just got mines, about to order the case, please once you receive the case post pics..
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I have two different extended batteries & I ordered that POS Hyperion case.
The case is very chintzy & doesn't fit either battery setup correctly.
On one battery it is too small & with the other it is loose & sloppy.
~John
I finally got the Hyperion silicone case in the mail.
Chinzy is not the word to describe it. More like primitive, it's made out of the same material the army made the chemical warfare gas masks with, back in the 50's. lol. Anyway, I've never seen a warfare gas mask. But it sure looks so primitive. With the cases these days moving towards TPU material, this Hyperion case is so "5 years ago".
First, the minuses:
The cutout edges in the front and on the camera opening, as you can see on the pictures, are not tight, which is to be expected of a case with this material. Not flapping, but it's not as firm as the edges on a TPU case.
The button profiles are practically indecipherable to touch. You can't feel your way to find the buttons unless you've already been accustomed to their locations.
It's a dirt and dust magnet. I'm sure if you take it to the beach, it'll bring back a pocketful of sand home with you, too. Pocket lints love to stick all over it. I've read it somewhere that this silicone material, as a result of its 'magnetic personality', will eventually create scratches on the covered surface of your phone, even on the metal edges, if you let the dirt build up inside.
Take your pocket knife and start carving the micro usb cutout for it is simply not big enough to serve its purpose. I've tried many different micro usb cables and none of them will fit through the cutout.
The pluses:
It's made for Hyperion's extended battery cover, so it fits snugly onto the back of the phone, onto the Hyperion-brand extended battery cover and to all four sides and four corners. Because of the curves and bulges specific to an extended battery cover, I seriously doubt if this case will fit as well on other brands' extended battery covers.
It effectively hides the cheap-looking plastic battery cover, as long as you don't mind carrying something that has the appearance of a rubbery-looking bar of soap in your pocket.
It definitely gives the positive, sure-grip feel when you're holding your phone, unlike when you're grasping the bare and slippery, cheap-looking plastic extended battery cover that bears the same brand name.
All things considered, I really have no choice but to keep it. Enjoy the pictures.
Anybody got a link to the battery and case. How much are they? Shipping expensive
Edit....found it. Ordered the battery and the case last night
just bought the battery. expectations are high.
Update:
the silicone case has stretched considerably where it becomes too sloppy. Tossed it about about a month ago. Since then, the thin plastic cover that came with the extended battery had been exposed and has gotten more cosmetic scratches. The plastic cover later developed a tiny crack on one of the top corner that continued to grow longer until it cracked completely clear to the camera window.
Bought the OEM extended battery cover to replace the unusable Hyperion extended battery cover. The quality of the OEM extended battery cover is outstanding, it's made out of a much more rigid material, it's thicker and the surface finish superb and much more durable compared to the Hyperion's, and it's more resistant to scratches. I'm very happy with it. From comparing the OEM 2600mAH extended battery, the Hyperion battery is about 2-3mm thinner. So too be safe, i placed a few layers of folded paper between battery and my new cover.
The Hyperion extended battery:
It continues to perform well.
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Update:
the silicone case has stretched considerably where it becomes too sloppy. Tossed it about about a month ago. Since then, the thin plastic cover that came with the extended battery had been exposed and has gotten more cosmetic scratches. The plastic cover later developed a tiny crack on one of the top corner that continued to grow longer until it cracked completely clear to the camera window.
Bought the OEM extended battery cover to replace the unusable Hyperion extended battery cover. The quality of the OEM extended battery cover is outstanding, it's made out of a much more rigid material, it's thicker and the surface finish superb and much more durable compared to the Hyperion's, and it's more resistant to scratches. I'm very happy with it. From comparing the OEM 2600mAH extended battery, the Hyperion battery is about 2-3mm thinner. So too be safe, i placed a few layers of folded paper between battery and my new cover.
The Hyperion extended battery:
It continues to perform well.
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How long does it last? What kind of usage do you do?
I've been pretty happy with this battery too. I spend a lot of my day in a location with little or zero signal, and I still get 18-20 hours out of the battery with moderate levels of use.
I do agree that the default Hyperion case isn't the greatest. I bought the OEM extended battery case too and it's much better.
As a side note, Hyperion's customer service is amazing. My battery case arrived cracked in half, but with no questions asked they sent a replacement for not only the case - the battery too!
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Update:
the silicone case has stretched considerably where it becomes too sloppy. Tossed it about about a month ago. Since then, the thin plastic cover that came with the extended battery had been exposed and has gotten more cosmetic scratches. The plastic cover later developed a tiny crack on one of the top corner that continued to grow longer until it cracked completely clear to the camera window.
Bought the OEM extended battery cover to replace the unusable Hyperion extended battery cover. The quality of the OEM extended battery cover is outstanding, it's made out of a much more rigid material, it's thicker and the surface finish superb and much more durable compared to the Hyperion's, and it's more resistant to scratches. I'm very happy with it. From comparing the OEM 2600mAH extended battery, the Hyperion battery is about 2-3mm thinner. So too be safe, i placed a few layers of folded paper between battery and my new cover.
The Hyperion extended battery:
It continues to perform well.
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Where, by chance, did you buy the OEM extended battery cover? I've not yet been able to find a reputable [appearing] site that has it in stock.
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Where, by chance, did you buy the OEM extended battery cover? I've not yet been able to find a reputable [appearing] site that has it in stock.
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Buy it from Verizon, it's cheaper than everywhere else ($10) and in stock.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=accessoryDetails&accessoryId=47552
I just got an extended battery for my charge, its the trexcell extended battery the other one that amazon sells and I just wanted to say its working great. I'm still conditioning the battery but its very promising, my phone has been up for 12 hr. Now and it down to 40%... already much more battery life than stock battery
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It grows on you
I've had the ext batt and cover (Hyperion) for few months and I loved the batt right off the bat but the cover took me a bit.
Ted A makes some excellent points nice write up
Here are a few more
+ I've got big hands (I can palm a medicine ball lol) and the extended bump along with the grabby case make handling the phone much easier. Stock its like trying to hold a wet watermelon seed.
When setting on a smooth surface and using the screen (playing a game mostly) it doesnt fly across the table and onto the floor, the smoother the surface the grippier it is.
I left the phone on my lap and jumped out of my truck. It did a half gainer onto the asphalt with absolutely no damage. Thank you Hyperion.
- It doesnt fit in any car or desk cradles that I've tried Guess thats par for the course.
As Ted said the physical buttons are covered and the small indents are undetectable at least by my sausage fingers. It also negates the back lighting on the buttons.
The grip turns it into a tug of war sometimes when it comes time to get it out of your pocket, especially when sitting down. The neighbors might think your playing a violent game of pocket pool and tell the kids "get inside now"
All in all I wouldnt give up either, I forgot the cover at home one day and realized how good of a job it does. I handled the phone very carefully the extra weight and my track record for smashing small expensive and delicate things made me uneasy. Once you get used to it you wont want to go without.
Got the oem extended cover in today [ https://www.techiewarehouse.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SSA-EBC-994EBZB-J022 ] and I must say its much much better than the after market cover that comes with the extended battery. Every place I looked were sold out, the site there is the only place I could find... after Googling for ever, its in stock as of the time of this post
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Holey Schmidt!
I can never leave anything alone/stock, sometimes it works sometimes I have to throw it away before anybody sees how bad I screwed up a perfectly good ________ you fill in the blank.
Keeping up with tradition I got tired of not being able to tell what button was what when I had my case on my phone. So I broke out my trusty paper hole puncher and carefully punched out holes were the symbols were on my phone case....see pic. Works grrrrreat! I can tell which button is which even with my mechanics gloves on. Plus you can now see the buttons when they light up. If anyone is daring enough to try this make sure you clip the holes on the high side (best if the top of the hole is touching the line at the top of the button. The buttons centers are a little higher than the markings on the case.
I also have a 3500mAh extended battery and the life on it is awful. I do have med-heavy usage on it, but there is no way it should only last 6 hours or so... Any suggestions or is it probably some crap battery?
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I also have a 3500mAh extended battery and the life on it is awful. I do have med-heavy usage on it, but there is no way it should only last 6 hours or so... Any suggestions or is it probably some crap battery?
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Return it, get another, the one I have with low usage lasted over 24 hours ... with normal use it will last me the whole day 13+ hr.
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I'd recalibrate your battery first there is a sticky about it if I'm not misstaken do a search if you can't find it.
Which battery do you use? I want one that will work legitimately. I can't stand only having 6 hours on a 3500mAh battery or any batter for that matter! Thanks!
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Which battery do you use? I want one that will work legitimately. I can't stand only having 6 hours on a 3500mAh battery or any batter for that matter! Thanks!
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I have the trexcell 3500mah brand off Amazon, its works great as long as you condition the battery as the instructions say. My phone says it has 30.52hr when the battery its fully charged. That if you don't touch the phone at all, but it will last me 12 -15hr with normal use.
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I am considering an extended battery for the S4 because mine doesn't last me through the day with my current use. I know that the 5200 mAh from Hyperion is as thick as 2 batteries combined and the Zerolemon 7500 mAh is three batteries, but not all stacked up but rather in a shape of a pyramid. So the thickness would be the same?
I know they are both bulky, but I was wondering if the 5200 would be thinner?
Or if they would be add the same amount of thickness to the phone?
Is they are both the same thickness, the clear winner is the ZL.
Thanks!
I can't comment on the batteries for the S4, but I have one friend who has the Hyperion Battery and one that has the ZL Battery for the GS3, tthe ZL battery is quite a bit thicker, but it is a pretty sweet battery.
I'd say buy both and send back the one you aren't going to use.
This is something I would like to know 2. I just bought the 5200ma from hyperion dreading it because I thought it would be so uncomfortable to use, but it's actually not bad at all. The charge is great too.
If the ZL is only a bit thicker than the 5200ma then I will sell this one and buy the ZL. If anyone with the ZL can get the thickness of the phone and battery on. That would be awesome.
I'll post a pic with the dimensions of the phone + battery (5200ma) with a caliper tomorrow when I get to work
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This is something I would like to know 2. I just bought the 5200ma from hyperion dreading it because I thought it would be so uncomfortable to use, but it's actually not bad at all. The charge is great too.
If the ZL is only a bit thicker than the 5200ma then I will sell this one and buy the ZL. If anyone with the ZL can get the thickness of the phone and battery on. That would be awesome.
I'll post a pic with the dimensions of the phone + battery (5200ma) with a caliper tomorrow when I get to work
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With ZL 7500mAh battery + casing on the phone dimensions are:
thickness is 18mm
width is 75mm
height is 146mm
I just used an onscreen ruler to take measurements but i'm pretty sure it's accurate.
Got the 5200mAh Hyperion coming with the extra nicer case tomorrow, I can try to post back with some better pics then the last reviewer. Otherwise he made a great review.
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ZeroLemon 7500mah uses 2 batteries - one the size of OEM and one longer and wider than one that sits on top of the first one. It's an ingenious design.
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ZeroLemon 7500mah uses 2 batteries - one the size of OEM and one longer and wider than one that sits on top of the first one. It's an ingenious design.
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Agreed, if you can fit it in your pocket.... :what: but it'll be nice to have for long trips on the motorcycle.
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The 5200 Hyperion on the phone measures at 14.2mm thick. Height and height don't change
So the ZL is not much bigger than the 5200
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So I'm guessing from some of the replies that the 7500 isn't that much thicker than the 5200? maybe a 4-5mm difference? If someone could post pictures of a comparison between the two, that would be great. I'm sure not alot of people have both since people with 7500 have no reason to go down to 5200. But if someone with a 7500 and someone with a 5200 could post a picture of the thickness and then I might be to able to combine the two to make it easier to see a direct side by side comparison and I would post the picture of the side by side back to this forum for everyone to see. Thanks for the replies so far!
So how is both battery's quality! It like OEM
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any result or pics available yet? Actually I want to get a 7500 mAh battery as sell, where do u find it
I'll post some pictures of my 5200 later on today. I don't have a 7200 but I'm definitely getting one after finding out its only 4mm thicker.
Battery life is really good on the 5200. Pretty much double stock. For me it's barely enough for what I need so the 7200 will be more than enough. Awesome.
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I have and recommend both, but the charge in the Zerolemon battery seems to last a good three or four days.
if yas want a battery that is so hard to kill in a day i highly suggest getting the ZL! i love it...im going to paint the white casing soon though as it collects grime and looks dirty!! its amazing what comes off your clean hands. I am pulling 12-13hrs of onscreen time per full charge at the moment with moderate use and i play racing games etc for a few hours plus use chat apps with wifi on and general news reading apps..its just amazing...and its just getting better.
i cant switch to a lower size battery ever again.
even when the battery is down to 10percent youre safe to go out for the night and still know u wont kill the battery for atleast another 2hrs of onscreen time or more..its just crazy.
Edite: It also fits nicely in my work shirt top pocket buttoned up and i dont even notice the weight of it. Shame i dont have scales...hey now theres an idea for the next gen phones..they should put a scale under the screen for people to weigh things in grams haha...anyway ZL ALL THE WAY!!
20% battery left ...i think i will still easily get 3hrs of onscreen time...its just getting better and better the more times i run it dead than recharge. only recharged it from dead to full 3 times in 9 days since getting it.
I'm on my first full discharge on the Zero Lemon 7500mAh battery after having it plugged in for 12 hours as they suggest when you first get it, and so far I'm down to 46% after 1 day, 4 and a half hours, with 5 and a half hours screen time.
Just got my Hyperion 5200 battery with shiny black cover and also got the matching case from them that fits this combo. Now this thing finally feels like a phone. Factory is just too skinny for me.
Very much like this combo.
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I have both Onite and Anker 5200 batteries (they're identical) and a ZeroLemon 7500 battery. In real life practice, the ZL batter + case isn't significantly thicker at all...but it's much heavier. I use either of the 5200 batts for daily use, the ZL 7500 for when I know I'm going to be without a charger for awhile (camping, exploring a new city where I use GPS and full brightness all the time), and the stock batt when size and weight are a priority (going out at night).
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I have both Onite and Anker 5200 batteries (they're identical) and a ZeroLemon 7500 battery. In real life practice, the ZL batter + case isn't significantly thicker at all...but it's much heavier. I use either of the 5200 batts for daily use, the ZL 7500 for when I know I'm going to be without a charger for awhile (camping, exploring a new city where I use GPS and full brightness all the time), and the stock batt when size and weight are a priority (going out at night).
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the protection from the ZL case is much better than the hyperion TPU for the extended case.
Personally, I'd stick to stock and ZL and just keep the 4500/5200 mah batteries out of the loop.
If you have a otterbox defender like myself and it's a pain to change batteries, you find yourself sticking to zero lemon exclusively.
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Any loss of signal with the ZL?
I want t get the ZL 7500 one and use it for trips or days I won't be near a charger at all.
now that you had your battery for a while, what are your 2 cent for every day use?
I have been reading all the threads on the extended batteries and wanted to hear from people that have both the seidio 4500 and the 3000 zero lemon. I have the 7500 Zerolemon for my phone right now. Although the battery is nice, I don't get crazy numbers like some people on here. (12 hours screen on time!!) I've had the battery for a week and my most has been about 7 hours. Which is still crazy good, but I miss the feeling of the slim phone. This thing made my basketball shorts sag like crazy today and realized this thing might be too big.
Saw the Seidio one and someone posted a picture of it by a quarter. So I measured mine by a quarter and the seidio seems alot thinner. So now I'm deciding between the Seidio and the 3000 ZL. I just need something thats going to last me a day since I will be charging it every night. Also I am a heavy user.
I was wondering if the back of the Seidio is noticeably fatter and heavier or not really? If not i'm leaning towards the Seidio.
Also which one would you guys prefer between these two?
choboii said:
I have been reading all the threads on the extended batteries and wanted to hear from people that have both the seidio 4500 and the 3000 zero lemon. I have the 7500 Zerolemon for my phone right now. Although the battery is nice, I don't get crazy numbers like some people on here. (12 hours screen on time!!) I've had the battery for a week and my most has been about 7 hours. Which is still crazy good, but I miss the feeling of the slim phone. This thing made my basketball shorts sag like crazy today and realized this thing might be too big.
Saw the Seidio one and someone posted a picture of it by a quarter. So I measured mine by a quarter and the seidio seems alot thinner. So now I'm deciding between the Seidio and the 3000 ZL. I just need something thats going to last me a day since I will be charging it every night. Also I am a heavy user.
I was wondering if the back of the Seidio is noticeably fatter and heavier or not really? If not i'm leaning towards the Seidio.
Also which one would you guys prefer between these two?
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I imagine that you will be needing a case that is relatively useful if you are playing basketball with it in your shorts, so when you do size comparisons, I suggest you compare the seidio with the extended case on it. I don't think you gain much in regards to width at that point, but it will be lighter and not weigh your shorts down as much.
I'm very skeptical about the zerolemon 3000 mah battery, only because a lot of the 3rd party manufacturers are really 80-90% of their said rating, but to each their own. If you had 13 percent more battery than stock, would it be enough for your daily use, if not, then I'd go with the seidio or stick with the zl 7500.
I have both the ZL 7500 and the Seidio 4500 and I much prefer the latter. The ZL is just too heavy and too.. blocky for me. What saves the Seidio is the much lighter weight and the fact that it's beveled enough so that the angels lie much better in your hands. It manages not to feel very thick at all.
It's going to be my daily battery while I'll keep the ZL for times when I'll be away from charging for quite some time (then I'll probably bring both though).
And I actually think I might prefer the Seidio over the stock battery when it comes to handling the phone as well. It just lies very well in your hand. A tad slippery though so I picked up a case for it on ebay that I hope will fit, if it doesn't I'll probably buy their own case with the kick stand.
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I have both the ZL 7500 and the Seidio 4500 and I much prefer the latter. The ZL is just too heavy and too.. blocky for me. What saves the Seidio is the much lighter weight and the fact that it's beveled enough so that the angels lie much better in your hands. It manages not to feel very thick at all.
It's going to be my daily battery while I'll keep the ZL for times when I'll be away from charging for quite some time (then I'll probably bring both though).
And I actually think I might prefer the Seidio over the stock battery when it comes to handling the phone as well. It just lies very well in your hand. A tad slippery though so I picked up a case for it on ebay that I hope will fit, if it doesn't I'll probably buy their own case with the kick stand.
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Whats your battery life between the two? How's the 4500 match up to the 7500??
You can get (2) ZeroLemon 3000 mAh with a charger for $19 and not need a new battery door or have issues with cases. To me that is far more effective and possibly a way I would go. Just not too familiar with how well ZeroLemon batteries hold up, read a lot of good reviews but no personal experience yet.
I totally agree that getting 2 ZeroLemon 3000 mAh with a charger for $19 is certainly a great deal, but my concern is this, that every time that a battery goes dead you are popping off the back door of your device and taking a chance of something happening. I rather pay $50.00 for a battery that has double that amount and not have to pop the back off. So, that brings me to an another problem, if you were to get a battery doubled that amount, chances are that you are going to need a new door , thus making your phone fatter and unable to fit the OtterBox case. I maybe wrong, I am just speculating from my experience from my other phone I had.
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Whats your battery life between the two? How's the 4500 match up to the 7500??
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Well.. the numbers speak for themselves don't they?
The ZL lasts a lot longer than the Seidio. It ought to last longer than the Seidio and the stock battery combined so it's a great battery. Just too bulky and heavy for me.
I still have it and it saved the day during a festival I went to. Burned through both the stock battery and the seidio and had to go to the ZL on the last day. Probably could've lasted through the whole event on the ZL but I didn't want something that heavy in my pocket all the time. Just kept all thre batteries in my backpack instead.
So.. it depends on your needs really.
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Well.. the numbers speak for themselves don't they?
The ZL lasts a lot longer than the Seidio. It ought to last longer than the Seidio and the stock battery combined so it's a great battery. Just too bulky and heavy for me.
I still have it and it saved the day during a festival I went to. Burned through both the stock battery and the seidio and had to go to the ZL on the last day. Probably could've lasted through the whole event on the ZL but I didn't want something that heavy in my pocket all the time. Just kept all thre batteries in my backpack instead.
So.. it depends on your needs really.
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Yeah, I have both now also... got them yesterday, was just curious about life, because some batteries are a little better quality than others. but yes, ZL obviously is better as far as lasting longer.. I prefer the Seidio tho...
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Yeah, I have both now also... got them yesterday, was just curious about life, because some batteries are a little better quality than others. but yes, ZL obviously is better as far as lasting longer.. I prefer the Seidio tho...
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So is the Seidio significantly lighter and thinner?
I went with Anker dual 2600 since it had prime shipping and would prefer to keep same size phone; if I had time I prob would have ordered the Zero Lemon (prob will in future). Will report how the 2 2600 and charger hold up on my trip
Disclaimer: I was chosen to receive a review unit of the Mugen Power 5900mAh Extended Battery.
So, that being said, I had done some research on their website, as well as googling Galaxy S5 "wireless charging" + "extended battery" and was prepared to like the battery. Mugen appears to be the only company (from google search) that has an extended battery AND wireless charging. This is a preliminary review with initial observations and pictures. I'll update the review after "conditioning" the battery and putting it through a few charging cycles.
PRO's:
On the website, the backcover was not suppose to be IP67 water-resistant (they were working on that, but it wasn't suppose to be wireless charging capable. The model I received is! (See included pictures)
Wireless charging: Worked effortlessly on the Q1 charger I was using with a wireless charging card.
NFC: Worked perfectly.
Design: Very solid and well designed. As you can see in the picture, the wireless connector is solid, the speaker is boxed in, so that sound won't echo in the hollow space, but is directed to the cut-out. Also, the speaker cut-out has a film cover, which the OEM does not. I'm used to having my phone is a case so I'm used to a larger feel in my hand and it feels very comfortable to me.
CON's:
Just one. It would be nice if it included a bumper so that the front of the phone was raised slightly. That being said, Mugen included both a tempered glass screen protector, and a leather-like pouch for the phone. I honestly don't know if that's part of the standard order, but it was a very nice touch.
Lastly, Mugen is based out of Hong Kong, but they are by no means anything like an e-bay cheapy product. Instructions included with battery are written in perfect english. If you've ever gotten an e-bay product from the Far East, I'm sure you know what I mean!
UPDATE 1: After the first charge/discharge cycle, almost 1 day, 8 hours and 7 hours screen on time. Pretty heavy use with Google Maps running screen brightness set to full brightness. After next charge, I'm just going to put it through "normal" use.
UPDATE 2: With light to moderate use, got 3 days, 8 hours, 40 minutes.
Planning on moving up to the S5 from the S4 since the latest Galaxy doesn't have the features it use too. Anyway... I really like your review and even went to Mugen's site and gave it a once over, but I'm not hooked.
Right now I am using a 5200mAh from Anker and for $25 I couldn't have gone wrong. This thing with moderate to heavy use is getting me around 2 days of battery life. Anyway... I'm pretty happy with the Ankers performance, so of course I looked into them for the S5 and I see they offer a whopping 7500mAh for only $40.
Granted you mention Mugen sending you a pouch/case... but their site doesn't mention that... so no idea if that would even be included on every order or if it might have been a limited order/supply kind of deal. Regardless though... I can't seem to justify paying an extra $45 and getting a battery that's 1600mAh smaller than the Anker. Also I have to add that my current S4 Anker hardback sucks... wasn't molded well and sometime pops off as it doesn't fit real snug like it should and I see Mugen uses the same kind of hardback. The S5 Anker uses what looks to be a plastic/rubber combo and fits like a glove.
Appreciate the review though.
Did you buy the anker battery how did it perform...
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Did you buy the anker battery how did it perform...
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Please don't hijack the thread. Feel free to discuss Mugen, otherwise PM the user you're asking. Thanks.
Thanks for the review. If the site advertised / sold the exact same one with the IP67 rating like the one you received. I would purchase one in a heartbeat.
Ok I will update this review in a few days after I have completed a couple of charge cycles but here are my initial impressions of the battery.
The battery is the same height and width as the stock battery but approximately twice as thick.
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The battery fits snugly into the phone and is really secure even without the back cover on and is in no danger of falling out.
The phone is obviously slightly heavier but not noticeably but with the back cover on you can certainly notice the extra thickness for sure.
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After my first day of use I got 7.30 hours of screen on time but I did do a back up, flash a new Rom and then restore during this so I expect to be able t get 2 days usage and 8 hours of screen on time once the battery has had a few charge cycles.
The back cover is a very similar material to the original and includes NFC and wireless charging which for me is a major plus point
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There are other alternatives on the market like zerolemon but this doesn't have NFC or wireless charging and it is a tricell battery it has been causing issues with giving a true reading of remaining battery.
I had a mugen battery on my old galaxy s2 which I gave my mum and is still going strong 4 years later so reliability I don't see as an issue.
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Conclusion
Plus Points
The Battery doesn't add to much weight
NFC and Wireless charging are included
Well known Manufacture
Double the battery life of stock
Built in kick stand and same material/look as stock cover
Negative Points
With the size of cover a bigger battery could be used (but not sure necessarily needed)
All though the cover looks great it offers no protection so maybe the option of a tpu case as well would be nice
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Review by @iridaki
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=58434824
I like the cover same as Hyperion but that is 8000. Gonna order cover from these guys and use it
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Can u give link to where you bought it.
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sawdoctor said:
All though the cover looks great it offers no protection so maybe the option of a tpu case as well would be nice
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I ordered one of them generic honeycomb-style TPU cases for extended batteries for a couple of quid from eBay, I believe it will fit the Mugen back cover. If that's true, then it's a cheap solution for extra protection.
BACARDILIMON said:
Can u give link to where you bought it.
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The batteries were sent to 4 XDA members as review units.
They will be available from February 6th and you can preorder here.
iridaki said:
I ordered one of them generic honeycomb-style TPU cases for extended batteries for a couple of quid from eBay, I believe it will fit the Mugen back cover. If that's true, then it's a cheap solution for extra protection.
The batteries were sent to 4 XDA members as review units.
They will be available from February 6th and you can preorder here.
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Gotcha I will wait until they offer the back door by itself. I love my Hyperion battery and to justify spending a 100 for a battery not as big and a cover is not for me. Just was looking into the cover and now tpu case you reffered to .all these backdoors are made by 1 company in China then get labeled or stuff added to it like qi charger adapter
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I find that my Note 4 has amazing battery life with stock battery.
Why make your phone into a brick with these extended batteries ?
I mean you could always just carry a spare battery in your bag or car.
THS1989 said:
I find that my Note 4 has amazing battery life with stock battery.
Why make your phone into a brick with these extended batteries ?
I mean you could always just carry a spare battery in your bag or car.
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Tbh i can normally get a day out of the stock battery but it's nice to have the extra juice if you are somewhere where you can't plug in and recharge. Any extended battery will add some bulk to the phone but the mugen doesn't feel like a brick unlike some others that really are huge and probably overkill
THS1989 said:
I find that my Note 4 has amazing battery life with stock battery.
Why make your phone into a brick with these extended batteries ?
I mean you could always just carry a spare battery in your bag or car.
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I work anywhere from 10-16 hours a day on my feet moving with clients. So I don't have time to charge back up. A spare battery is OK but if I forget it I am screwed. Rather have the bulk either way. I got pretty big hands and the phone sometimes is a pain to hold with out the case with bigger back.
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After spending 4 days with the Mugen battery, I have to say I am quite impressed.
Firstly, it does add bulk to the back of the phone, but it doesn't add much weight, so the phone is easy to handle. The back cover is of very high quality (will update the post with photos soon) and the kickstand is sturdy and quite handy. Wireless charging and NFC work flawlessly, which is a big bonus.
Now to the more interesting part: the actual battery life. The battery has claimed capacity of 6640mAh and the stock battery is rated at 3220mAh. That means it should easily double the battery life of the phone.
Does it deliver?
In short, YES, absolutely.
Long version: I am what many would consider a 'heavy user'. I have a Gear Fit that is constantly connected with the phone, so the S Health app runs in the background syncing every 3 hours. WiFi always on, mobile data as well. Autosync on for 2 Google and 1 Exchange accounts. I stream music from Deezer and watch Netflix almost every day (long bus journeys... ).
All in all, I get about 16 hours of standby with 4 hours of screen on time with the stock battery.
With the Mugen battery I got more than 8 hours of screen on time -see screenshots. I didn't even put the phone in Ultra Power Saving mode at night, as I do when I use the stock battery.
So my personal experience has been very positive and the battery, in my view, has scored excellent in all aspects: standby, temperature, charging, appearance.
Are there any negative points?
Much like with everything in life, yes.
I'd really like to see a TPU case that fits the extended back cover. I'm just one of these people that can't stand the idea of the phone being naked! [emoji23]
Is it worth it?
OK, let's address the elephant in the room: the product is pricey. I received it as a review unit and before I actually started using it, I was too thinking what many of you possibly think: "This is too expensive". However, after a day with it, I realised that, once again, the 'you get what you pay for' applies here. The battery performs excellently out of the box. No hiccups with the battery gauge, it displays the correct percentage at all times, no need for 'calibrations' and other questionable shenanigans. It just works. It doubled my battery life from the first charge, I didn't need to wait ages and condition the battery with crazy rituals for it to perform as it is supposed to. It just works. It adds bulk, but not too much weight and the back cover looks and feels beautiful, while adding extra grip due to the very fine texture. Not to mention wireless charging, which is a big bonus and advantage over the competition. Add NFC to that too.
All in all, yes, it is worth it.
Available for pre-order here:
http://mugen.co/mugen-power-6640mah...-samsung-galaxy-note-4-with-battery-door.html
iridaki said:
After spending 4 days with the Mugen battery, I have to say I am quite impressed.
Firstly, it does add bulk to the back of the phone, but it doesn't add much weight, so the phone is easy to handle. The back cover is of very high quality (will update the post with photos soon) and the kickstand is sturdy and quite handy. Wireless charging and NFC work flawlessly, which is a big bonus.
Now to the more interesting part: the actual battery life. The battery has claimed capacity of 6640mAh and the stock battery is rated at 3220mAh. That means it should easily double the battery life of the phone.
Does it deliver?
In short, YES, absolutely.
Long version: I am what many would consider a 'heavy user'. I have a Gear Fit that is constantly connected with the phone, so the S Health app runs in the background syncing every 3 hours. WiFi always on, mobile data as well. Autosync on for 2 Google and 1 Exchange accounts. I stream music from Deezer and watch Netflix almost every day (long bus journeys... ).
All in all, I get about 16 hours of standby with 4 hours of screen on time with the stock battery.
With the Mugen battery I got more than 8 hours of screen on time -see screenshots. I didn't even put the phone in Ultra Power Saving mode at night, as I do when I use the stock battery.
So my personal experience has been very positive and the battery, in my view, has scored excellent in all aspects: standby, temperature, charging, appearance.
Are there any negative points?
Much like with everything in life, yes.
I'd really like to see a TPU case that fits the extended back cover. I'm just one of these people that can't stand the idea of the phone being naked! [emoji23]
Is it worth it?
OK, let's address the elephant in the room: the product is pricey. I received it as a review unit and before I actually started using it, I was too thinking what many of you possibly think: "This is too expensive". However, after a day with it, I realised that, once again, the 'you get what you pay for' applies here. The battery performs excellently out of the box. No hiccups with the battery gauge, it displays the correct percentage at all times, no need for 'calibrations' and other questionable shenanigans. It just works. It doubled my battery life from the first charge, I didn't need to wait ages and condition the battery with crazy rituals for it to perform as it is supposed to. It just works. It adds bulk, but not too much weight and the back cover looks and feels beautiful, while adding extra grip due to the very fine texture. Not to mention wireless charging, which is a big bonus and advantage over the competition. Add NFC to that too.
All in all, yes, it is worth it.
Available for pre-order here:
http://mugen.co/mugen-power-6640mah...-samsung-galaxy-note-4-with-battery-door.html
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Great review @iridaki way better than mine lol. I have to say I agree with your conclusion it is a bit more expensive but I think the inclusion on Nfc and wireless charging make it worth it.
I have tried the wireless charging and once you get the phone positioned properly it works fine although the phone does get rather warm
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Great review @iridaki way better than mine lol. I have to say I agree with your conclusion it is a bit more expensive but I think the inclusion on Nfc and wireless charging make it worth it.
I have tried the wireless charging and once you get the phone positioned properly it works fine although the phone does get rather warm
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what wireless you are using
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what wireless you are using
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I ordered this one from amazon
EC Technology® 6mm Ultra-Slim Qi-Enabled Wireless Charging Pad fo... http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00M9TBTDM/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_XgTXub0AX2R0Y
Considering the size of this phone to begin with, I would say that to add any extra bulk would be not in my best interest. I would just recommend a power bank that you can plug into periodically, and just making sure you charge your phone nightly. I like to keep my phone in my pocket, and that even a little extra bulk would be quite noticeable. At least in my perspective.
iridaki said:
I ordered one of them generic honeycomb-style TPU cases for extended batteries for a couple of quid from eBay, I believe it will fit the Mugen back cover. If that's true, then it's a cheap solution for extra protection.
How did this work out, the cheap generic TPU case, did it end up fitting over the Mugen extended battery cover?
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iridaki said:
I ordered one of them generic honeycomb-style TPU cases for extended batteries for a couple of quid from eBay, I believe it will fit the Mugen back cover. If that's true, then it's a cheap solution for extra protection.
How did this work out, the cheap generic TPU case, did it end up fitting over the Mugen extended battery cover?
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I ordered one of eBay but still waiting for it. Might try the balloon trick for now
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2thvet said:
I ordered one of eBay but still waiting for it. Might try the balloon trick for now
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Mine should be arriving within this week, I'll let you know!
The balloon trick crossed my mind too!
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Okay, excuse my ignorance...what is the balloon trick?
I have the Zerolemon as well, I suppose I can see if the Zeroshock case will work with the Mugen battery. I don't have the Mugen battery yet, just ordered it, otherwise I would have tried it. I just got tired of the battery percentage and calibration shenanigans with the Zerolemon, had to try something else.
2thvet said:
Okay, excuse my ignorance...what is the balloon trick?
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2thvet said:
I have the Zerolemon as well, I suppose I can see if the Zeroshock case will work with the Mugen battery. I don't have the Mugen battery yet, just ordered it, otherwise I would have tried it. I just got tired of the battery percentage and calibration shenanigans with the Zerolemon, had to try something else.
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I've been using my Mugen battery for a while now and it's awesome, I am sure you'll enjoy it.
If the Zeroshock case for the Note 4 is anything like the one for the S4, it can accommodate any extended battery so it should work with the Mugen just fine.
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http://youtu.be/lvVE3LeWiDI
I've been using my Mugen battery for a while now and it's awesome, I am sure you'll enjoy it.
If the Zeroshock case for the Note 4 is anything like the one for the S4, it can accommodate any extended battery so it should work with the Mugen just fine.
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Only issue for me is i either have to take the back off or use stock battery when i use my gear vr
I would never ever ever use a balloon. That is rigging at it best.
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Wireless charging this? I find this a joke. Even with stock battery, I found it takes too long for the % move up, also i pick up the phone to use more frequently, so it's not practical, especially this one, take 24h to charge without picking up the phone????
Someone please don't do the math of Ah vs A output to prove my 24h charge wrong, LOL you know what i meant...