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Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!
ps.christos said:
Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!
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A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.
iElvis said:
A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.
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So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?
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So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?
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The stock rooted roms should work on any One XL--they are usually debranded. But they are not all exactly the same--I would review the OP to be sure.
Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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InflatedTitan said:
Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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That's not good! Any way to avoid that? I just rooted 2 days ago!
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ToxicWaste said:
That's not good! Any way to avoid that?
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Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
iElvis said:
Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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Yes.
On any Android device if you are rooted, don't update by OTA.
Its really that simple. How many times does this need to be said?
At a minimum, you will lose root. At the worst, you will not be able to root again (depending on what was changed in the OTA) or get stuck in a bootloop (or otherwise not be able to boot).
iElvis said:
Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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ToxicWaste said:
I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Definitely understandable bro. I recommend everyone to enjoy that honeymoon period of a new phone first, then customize the hell out of it. Nothing wrong with your doing, but like others have said don't take an update OTA if your stock. Just pop back in when you ready to really see what this phone is capable of
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ToxicWaste said:
I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.
Thanks for the the explanations, guys.
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I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.
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I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.
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Sure, there are exceptions. Apps like OTA Rootkeeper sometimes work too (but don't think it ever has on the One X) to keep root after an OTA.
I was giving the "short story" rule for n00bs to go by. The "long story" is not to accept an OTA unless you have researched in advance that it will work (such as from other users here); or you intend to be the guinea pig and live the with the consequences, whatever they may be.
Too many folks here jumped on the 2.20 OTA when it first rolled out, then came on here crying "Ohhh sh1t I lost root, and its not rootable".
"Don't ever OTA on a rooted device" is a good rule to live by, unless you reearch on here and learn otherwise. On the huge majority of devices, the OTA will not even install on a rooted device, anyway. And rooted versions of the latest firmwares always get posted here. So there is really no reason to gamble and take the OTA.
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Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.
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I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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marsyeti said:
I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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What happened was that people who took the OTA lost root, and it was months before someone found an exploit. That may happen again with JB if you take it.
It might take the devs a few days to a week to update their roms. Just be patient.
If you absolutely can't wait, you should be stock before taking an OTA.
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And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.
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Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.
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But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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marsyeti said:
But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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There's nothing for JB because it hasn't been released yet. There are rooted versions of many of the other firmware versions in the development section; just look in the compilation thread at the top, which has them all listed.
So,i was lucky i started it before i get the phone on hands! I really thought that at&t takes a lot of time to give ota but it is not so long time!(max a month i think) I think JB hasn't pop up not even for htc(no-carrier branded)phones,always talking about s4 version or 4g as it is called. All stock rooted roms i check seemed good but most of times it was still branded. So to sum up i think i will stay with the stock rom till jb pops up,then i will root the phone deleting all at&t apps...!(only way i know to delete rom's apps is with at least root acces right is there any other?)
I think it is needed to be said againe that even if you have stock rom and ota pops up you dont't do the update but you get the update from xda cause stock root rom+ota can cause problems!
Silly question (i think) unrooting and then ota is as dengarous as stock root rom and ota????(it sounds ok and you avoid re-installing your apps)
All i need (FOR NOW OF COURSE) is a clear rom and get the original "hTC_bootup_one" and "hTC_downanimation" zip files to the right place to avoid at&t meeting every time i go to menu and every time i power my up phone!
I want to know am I able to root and ROM this thing? I've done it to many phones before. It's not locked down or is it?
Thanks!
Scott
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You're definitely able to unlock and root this baby. The latest JB OTA just makes it slightly more difficult to unlock but it's still possible. If you get it and it still runs ICS, unlock and root and don't take that OTA.
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Scottay5150 said:
I want to know am I able to root and ROM this thing? I've done it to many phones before. It's not locked down or is it?
Thanks!
Scott
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The last time I checked all android based phones have a method to root and this phone is no different. If you check both android development sections you WILL see ROMs there to flash. Also if an android phone comes with an locked bootloader then there is a method to unlock it. This phone comes with a locked bootloader but there is an app for that.
Scottay5150 said:
I want to know am I able to root and ROM this thing? I've done it to many phones before. It's not locked down or is it?
Thanks!
Scott
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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If there was only like some sort of forum-like site that would give you that info....that would be pretty cool. One can dream though. :silly:
Thanks to an African-Canadian Sock Monkey, we can unlock the bootloader.
a quick look in the development thread would of answered this, but yes, it's VERY simple to root and ROM this phone (coming from HTC phones)
Very simple - did mine while sitting at work goofing around...There's more and more ROMs available every day and you can get support for ANYTHING from all the awesome people here. I'm new to modding phones and I'm so impressed
Just an added note to thank all at XDA Developers who helped my unlock and root my HTC Thunderbolt and my current Galaxy S3.
There's really little need to root and flash the S3 other than to remove VZW's bloatware and I appreciate that but XDA Developers are essential to the Thunderbolt, it required rooting and flashing to make it function properly!
jmxc23 said:
Also if an android phone comes with a locked bootloader then there is a method to unlock it.
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Tell that to Motorola owners.
xs11e said:
There's really little need to root and flash the S3 other than to remove VZW's bloatware !
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I have to disagree with that statement. Rooting and ROMing, is absolutely necessary, if you can't stand SuckWiz.
spotmark said:
Tell that to Motorola owners.
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No kidding. They are locked up like Fort Knox on steroids.
They unlocked the dev version of a phone and the PhotonQ
I always hate asking questions like this, because someone inevitably points me to a link that was super-easy to find and I scratch my head wondering how I missed it! But, I am looking for a rooted stock ROM (latest) download link.
I recently upgraded my phone and made the mistake of selling it to someone with the latest CM ROM on it. Although I informed them that it wasn't 100% functional and of course once they had problems with it they returned it to me.
Hence the request for the latest rooted stock rom. I want it rooted since people do look for that and it's on them if they decide to try out new ROMs.
As always, thanks for the assistance.
Does the person you're selling the phone to want it rooted? Cuz they can't flash roms if the bootloader is not unlocked which means you would need to do both.
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It is unlocked and rooted at the moment. I only want to put a stock rom on there to ensure that there are no technical issues that a potential buyer might have running a custom rom (and that they can take it into a verizon store for support).
If necessary, I guess I could unroot it by putting the stock rom back on it and then go through the motions of re-rooting and unlocking. I just assumed that there was a rooted stock rom availble I could flash.
SlimSnoopOS said:
Does the person you're selling the phone to want it rooted? Cuz they can't flash roms if the bootloader is not unlocked which means you would need to do both.
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Sisren said:
It is unlocked and rooted at the moment. I only want to put a stock rom on there to ensure that there are no technical issues that a potential buyer might have running a custom rom (and that they can take it into a verizon store for support).
If necessary, I guess I could unroot it by putting the stock rom back on it and then go through the motions of re-rooting and unlocking. I just assumed that there was a rooted stock rom availble I could flash.
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I would not give someone a rooted and unlocked phone unless they request it. If they request it then fine. Bit otherwise it's a very bad idea. They could be someone who had no idea what root means and screw their phone up. They would take it to Verizon to have it fixed and then Verizon would say "Sorry we don't help people who has modified their software" (root and unlocked).
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Sisren said:
It is unlocked and rooted at the moment. I only want to put a stock rom on there to ensure that there are no technical issues that a potential buyer might have running a custom rom (and that they can take it into a verizon store for support).
If necessary, I guess I could unroot it by putting the stock rom back on it and then go through the motions of re-rooting and unlocking. I just assumed that there was a rooted stock rom availble I could flash.
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Aight, here it is then. Credit goes to Scrosler for the work. I do agree with @Sandman-007 though, I'd set it back to stock, unrooted and be done with it all. Leaves no stone unturned. Just make sure it is openly stated that the device is rooted and unlocked but with the stock rom installed. Anything less would be negligent.
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I would not give someone a rooted and unlocked phone unless they request it. If they request it then fine. Bit otherwise it's a very bad idea. They could be someone who had no idea what root means and screw their phone up. They would take it to Verizon to have it fixed and then Verizon would say "Sorry we don't help people who has modified their software" (root and unlocked).
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Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
You will brick your fone flashing any type of custom recovery or roms will brick you fone. U can root ur fone from my understanding from other threads but thats it
thanewguy said:
Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
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Like what was said above, you can't install any custom roms.
Knox is not responsible for locking the bootloader, it's only a flag that is triggered when root is achieved. Think of it like a flash counter that can't be undone. It has nothing to do with this.
The problem is the bootloader that was also updated. Every step in the chain has to be on the VRUCML1 base or the phone will brick itself and terminate the boot. Since our previous unlock method was to modify a step in the bootloader to unlock it, it can't be done the same way on the new base because it isn't able to be modified.
Any attempt to unlock it by any means or flashing a custom rom will change the bootloader. Safestrap is the only hope for the new base, or unless we're lucky enough to get a leaked unlocked bootloader.
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thanewguy said:
Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
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So with all else said, use Safestrap
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Midnightswammi said:
So with all else said, use Safestrap
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We don't have safestrap.
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So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
thanewguy said:
So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
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Thats correct. Your stuck on 4.3 TW
thanewguy said:
So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
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You can use xposed with modules that allow for a lot of customization, if you haven't used it before take a look at it.
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BadUsername said:
Like what was said above, you can't install any custom roms.
Knox is not responsible for locking the bootloader, it's only a flag that is triggered when root is achieved. Think of it like a flash counter that can't be undone. It has nothing to do with this.
The problem is the bootloader that was also updated. Every step in the chain has to be on the VRUCML1 base or the phone will brick itself and terminate the boot. Since our previous unlock method was to modify a step in the bootloader to unlock it, it can't be done the same way on the new base because it isn't able to be modified.
Any attempt to unlock it by any means or flashing a custom rom will change the bootloader. Safestrap is the only hope for the new base, or unless we're lucky enough to get a leaked unlocked bootloader.
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I'm rooted on 4.3 without being flagged. Maybe its because I didn't try to root with anything other than safe root.
ThePagel said:
I'm rooted on 4.3 without being flagged. Maybe its because I didn't try to root with anything other than safe root.
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It really doesn't flag? Your warranty bit in download mode is still 0? Maybe saferoot bypasses it.
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any progress?
Like the original poster, I am stuck on a touchWiz android 4.3 verizon gs3. I have been able to root it with safe root, but I have not had any luck rolling back to 4.1.2 or to unlock the bootloader. I have seen various "how to" type things that are supposed to work on 4.3, but like I said, no luck so far.
If someone more knowledgeable than myself has heard of a breakthrough in this area that would be awesome.
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Like the original poster, I am stuck on a touchWiz android 4.3 verizon gs3. I have been able to root it with safe root, but I have not had any luck rolling back to 4.1.2 or to unlock the bootloader. I have seen various "how to" type things that are supposed to work on 4.3, but like I said, no luck so far.
If someone more knowledgeable than myself has heard of a breakthrough in this area that would be awesome.
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Any how to you have seen was not for the Verizon gs3. But if I am wrong please post the link so I can try!
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ThePagel said:
Any how to you have seen was not for the Verizon gs3. But if I am wrong please post the link so I can try!
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Sure, I tried this out yesterday, ended up soft bricking my phone, I was able to use Kies to get it back to stock though. I am suspicious that the how to may be bunk.
androidpit.com/how-to-downgrade-galaxy-s3
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Sure, I tried this out yesterday, ended up soft bricking my phone, I was able to use Kies to get it back to stock though. I am suspicious that the how to may be bunk.
androidpit.com/how-to-downgrade-galaxy-s3
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It's bunk for the Verizon S3. I have seen this link mentioned in another thread and BadUsername checked out the link and found it was for the International version of the S3, not ours.
I was running cm11 m3 on my vzw galaxy s3 but used odin to install VRUCML1 not knowing about Knox and all the fun that comes with that. Before I installed VRUCML1, I did a backup. I've since regained root access through saferoot but cant boot into a custom recovery without getting the "you've been naughty. go visit a verizon store" error message. Does anyone know of a way that I can restore my pre-VRUCML1 backup or am I out of luck since my bootloader is still locked?
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I was running cm11 m3 on my vzw galaxy s3 but used odin to install VRUCML1 not knowing about Knox and all the fun that comes with that. Before I installed VRUCML1, I did a backup. I've since regained root access through saferoot but cant boot into a custom recovery without getting the "you've been naughty. go visit a verizon store" error message. Does anyone know of a way that I can restore my pre-VRUCML1 backup or am I out of luck since my bootloader is still locked?
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Out of luck. Can only use safestrap to run only 4.3 TW based ROMs
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twistedillutions said:
You will brick your fone flashing any type of custom recovery or roms will brick you fone. U can root ur fone from my understanding from other threads but thats it
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now that it is 4/26/2014 is this still the case? i have sch-i535 with 4.3 it is rooted but i really want Cyanogenmod. is there any way at all?
HubbardWithAndroid said:
now that it is 4/26/2014 is this still the case? i have sch-i535 with 4.3 it is rooted but i really want Cyanogenmod. is there any way at all?
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No way yet, and it doesn't look promising for that changing anytime soon.
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Does this work?
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No way yet, and it doesn't look promising for that changing anytime soon.
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Okay thanks. Hey i found this do you know of this working? basically you download the 4.1.2 firmware from sammobil and flash is using odin. If i can downgrade then i can flash Cyanogenmod. I found a link but i cant post it being a new member.
HubbardWithAndroid said:
Okay thanks. Hey i found this do you know of this working? basically you download the 4.1.2 firmware from sammobil and flash is using odin. If i can downgrade then i can flash Cyanogenmod. I found a link but i cant post it being a new member.
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There was a link for something like that posted some time ago here at XDA, and if it's the same link it is for the international version of the S3 not our Verizon version. The Verizon version cannot be flashed back to a previous firmware.
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Dumb question alert.
I know the phone isn't out yet but coming from a unlocked/rooted Z5P (and I haven't really caught up with their more recent devices), how much chance is there that there will be a chance of unlocking and/or rooting the XZP without the whole losing TA partition song and dance?
Since you can't use the TA backup tool on Nougat and there's no MM fw on Sony XZ Premium there's no chance.
With no backup there's no way to restore the keys and therefore no way to get warranty back by restoring/relocking.
as someone who hasn't owned a sony device before but is looking into the xz premium what does the TA partition do?
If I would like to unlock the bootloader for a custom rom installation does that mean I lose the 960 fps slow mo? If I do is there anyway to undo it?
aeppacher said:
as someone who hasn't owned a sony device before but is looking into the xz premium what does the TA partition do?
If I would like to unlock the bootloader for a custom rom installation does that mean I lose the 960 fps slow mo? If I do is there anyway to undo it?
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TA partition contains DRM keys which is needed for some sony features such as better low light quality etc.
These DRM keys are unique and you cannot use someone elses DRM keys, that will brick the device.
There's a DRM-fix that restores this but it doesn't restore the units keys, they are forever gone unless you manage to back them up.
Even if you backed them up, restoring them would relock bootloader and you loose root. I personally don't care, I prioritize root over anything.
No, you don't lose slow-mo, even if the camera would get weird it would get fixed with DRM-fix anyway so no worries.
I hope there is a way to circumvent the security and get a safe unlocked root for XZ Premium.
I'm so hyped for my pre-order, and root would be epic to say the least.
Nepturion said:
I hope there is a way to circumvent the security and get a safe unlocked root for XZ Premium.
I'm so hyped for my pre-order, and root would be epic to say the least.
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Circumvent what? It's already safe and very easy. You just have to do a personal decision if you want to lose your warranty and get root.
You can't have both. You either unlock, get root and lose warranty or you stay locked without root.
FartyParty said:
Circumvent what? It's already safe and very easy. You just have to do a personal decision if you want to lose your warranty and get root.
You can't have both. You either unlock, get root and lose warranty or you stay locked without root.
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I've owned more than one Sony in my time, and I had to return one for service. It was unlocked and rooted. All I did was throw the stock ROM back on it and send it in. Came back fixed and no $ needed. YMMV
I am sure we'll have the same flexibility as other devices... just give it some time.
charlatan01 said:
I've owned more than one Sony in my time, and I had to return one for service. It was unlocked and rooted. All I did was throw the stock ROM back on it and send it in. Came back fixed and no $ needed. YMMV
I am sure we'll have the same flexibility as other devices... just give it some time.
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Ok? Good for you I guess. You still lose warranty.
charlatan01 said:
I've owned more than one Sony in my time, and I had to return one for service. It was unlocked and rooted. All I did was throw the stock ROM back on it and send it in. Came back fixed and no $ needed. YMMV
I am sure we'll have the same flexibility as other devices... just give it some time.
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I've been lucky to get my Z5P repaired (battery replacement) without cost even though I sent it in with an unlocked bootloader too. However I really would prefer to have a backed up TA this time around since on 2 previous occasions (on my Z2 and Z5P), I've been rather unlucky with my timing and (at that time) new exploits were found to backup the TA only a week after I had unlocked my bootloader. :silly:
You guys think there will be a way to back up the TA partition. I really wanna root the device. But chances are getting minimum nowadays. :/
chesterr said:
You guys think there will be a way to back up the TA partition. I really wanna root the device. But chances are getting minimum nowadays. :/
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It'll happen, but it could be two weeks or 6 months... depends on when the phone starts selling and some devs buy it. When in doubt, a bounty might be in order.
chesterr said:
You guys think there will be a way to back up the TA partition. I really wanna root the device. But chances are getting minimum nowadays. :/
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Not for a while. Considering the TAbackupv2 tool doesn't have support for Nougat and that was a while ago...
Unless someone else makes a new tool.
Personally I will root it as soon as I get it .
FartyParty said:
Not for a while. Considering the TAbackupv2 tool doesn't have support for Nougat and that was a while ago...
Unless someone else makes a new tool.
Personally I will root it as soon as I get it .
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Nougat support wasn't needed though then as you could just flash marshmallow and do it that way, but now it is so maybe someone smarter than us will help us all out :fingers-crossed:
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Nougat support wasn't needed though then as you could just flash marshmallow and do it that way, but now it is so maybe someone smarter than us will help us all out :fingers-crossed:
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Yea, because the XZ had MM fw but the XZs and XZ-Premium doesn't.
I was actually thinking of flashing a MM fw onto my XZs just to try but later just unlocked/rooted since I will be moving to premium anyway.
But then again I personally don't care for the keys. If my phone breaks I just get a new one because I could never use the phone again if it breaks and I get it back "fixed", it would bother me so much.
Anyway, let's hope for the people that do want to save their keys someone finds a way sooner than later.
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Yea, because the XZ had MM fw but the XZs and XZ-Premium doesn't.
I was actually thinking of flashing a MM fw onto my XZs just to try but later just unlocked/rooted since I will be moving to premium anyway.
But then again I personally don't care for the keys. If my phone breaks I just get a new one because I could never use the phone again if it breaks and I get it back "fixed", it would bother me so much.
Anyway, let's hope for the people that do want to save their keys someone finds a way sooner than later.
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You'll probably soft brick your xzs, why get a xzs if you wanted the premium easier to just wait a couple months? I've got mine now
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You'll probably soft brick your xzs, why get a xzs if you wanted the premium easier to just wait a couple months? I've got mine now
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I had the XZ and then the XZs came out so I got that while I wait for Premium. You have your Premium right now? Wow lucky.
I get mine the Thursday with the official case ! Picked the black one.
FartyParty said:
I had the XZ and then the XZs came out so I got that while I wait for Premium. You have your Premium right now? Wow lucky.
I get mine the Thursday with the official case ! Picked the black one.
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Captain money bags you are aye , I've got the chrome one gonna get the official case when it's back in stock on the website but I do prefer not having one until it gets scratched :silly: , best get back to topic before people get mad
Has anyone tried flashing the XZ marshmallow onto the XZ premium? Maybe it's possible with some kind of hack considering that the premium is merely a beefed up version of the XZ vanilla.
lebigmac said:
Has anyone tried flashing the XZ marshmallow onto the XZ premium? Maybe it's possible with some kind of hack considering that the premium is merely a beefed up version of the XZ vanilla.
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That's not how it works. That's not how it works at all. XZ Premium is totally different from the vanilla XZ, and even if it had the same chipset you still wouldn't be able to flash anything from another phone.
Ok thanks for the confirmation. Please excuse my nescience. I'm a noob