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So, as someone living and working in China, I've been super excited following up on the Xiaomi Phone. When they released the price as 2000 RMB (about $310 USD), I knew it had to be fake, or there was some serious funny business. The numbers just don't add up.
Engadget recently had a review of the Xiaomi phone and had it benchmarking near the Galaxy S 2 in several tests, so I think it makes sense to compare these two:
SGS 2 Advantages: Super AMOLED screen; 4.3 inch screen (vs 4 inch); forward facing camera; 1080p video recording (vs 720p); onboard storage (16 GB vs 4 GB); slightly smaller footprint.
Xiaomi Advantages: Price; processor speed (1.5 Ghz vs 1.2); battery (1930 mAh vs 1650); GLONASS and GPS tracking; highly customizable UI out of the box.
In China, the SGS2 retails for about 4300 RMB (about $670 USD). So how does a phone which is in the SGS2's ballpark retail for less than half the price?
It gets even more peculiar. Here are some questions Xiaomi hasn't cleared up(or at least I haven't seen their responses yet):
1) Xiaomi uses a Qualcomm processor and a LCD screen from Sharp (Japanese import). So they can't be using local parts to save costs, how are they able to offer the phone at only $310?
2) Local competitors like Huawei and ZTE who have much more experience in manufacturing (and much more leverage with suppliers) have yet to produce a phone remotely like this. Also, their closest local competition in terms of specs is something like the Huawei Honor, a single core phone that retails for about $400. Yet Xiaomi, which has never produced hardware before is getting better deals than these guys on components? Samsung also does component development in-house, but Xiaomi is getting better pricing than Samsung?
3) Xiaomi was originally a software developer. How did they pull a piece of impressive hardware like this out of nowhere?
4) Why retail for $310? They could sell it for $500 and it would still be way cheaper than an SGS2. Hell, I paid more than 2000 RMB for the crappy 2 year old Nokia I'm still using over here.
My Chinese is OK so I've been trying to read more on the Xiaomi forums, but I haven't really gotten any new information, other than there's something like 300,000 preorders already. I figure there's got to be some serious funny business going on. Probably:
a) ridiculous free loans and/or development assistance from the government to built up national prestige; or
b) copying another phone's internals verbatim; or
c) fake components of some kind
It looked really smooth in the Engadget video, so I'm inclined to be believe it's option A. Good for consumers I guess, but probably lousy if you're a Chinese taxpayer. Any ideas on why the price is so low?
Smaller companies tend to do these kind of things.
However I'm interested as well.
I believe that it's one part 'a' and another that generally huawei and zte have primarily been marketed for export (to SE Asia, India, EU) but the government is really trying to subsidize local start ups to fight imports (like HTC, Sony, etc...) and get Chinese to spend their money on Chinese things. But if a Chinese phone were 3000 RMB and a Korean or Japanese phone was also 3000 RMB, no one would get the Chinese phone for obvious reasons.
so basically you just made up a thread without any evidence and full of speculation accusing Xiaomi not being legit.
india are making ARM Cortex 9 phones with 4 GB for only $35
if they can do it, so can china
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I don't why people have so much comments , no offence though .
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india are making ARM Cortex 9 phones with 4 GB for only $35
if they can do it, so can china
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Seriously?
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Seriously?
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yes, there is a post with the pictures and spec here in the forum
aprox 5 days old
it's made for the india school system
Hi it's my first post and I have no exact figures to support this other than a simple comparison to another industry.
I remember hearing from someone that the mark up on mobile phones (this was a while ago) was a few hundred percent. Remember that it doesn't cost 800 dollars to make a phone and the people that usually make it in third world manufacturing companies or places with poor working conditions only get paid a few dollars an hour to make your 800 dollar phones.
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My comparison industry is optometry. The following information comes from someone I know who is an optometrist:
"Frames like Gucci and Prada cost $3 per frame to make. In the stores you pay $500 dollars to buy them. That is an insane mark up. However they can't retail it cheaper because of an agreement in place to prevent the devaluation of the brand."
I am sure the same thing happens in the cell phone industry.
Just thought that this might put the legitimacy of the phone in perspective.
Thanks for your time.
andao79 said:
So, as someone living and working in China, I've been super excited following up on the Xiaomi Phone. When they released the price as 2000 RMB (about $310 USD), I knew it had to be fake, or there was some serious funny business. The numbers just don't add up.
Engadget recently had a review of the Xiaomi phone and had it benchmarking near the Galaxy S 2 in several tests, so I think it makes sense to compare these two:
SGS 2 Advantages: Super AMOLED screen; 4.3 inch screen (vs 4 inch); forward facing camera; 1080p video recording (vs 720p); onboard storage (16 GB vs 4 GB); slightly smaller footprint.
Xiaomi Advantages: Price; processor speed (1.5 Ghz vs 1.2); battery (1930 mAh vs 1650); GLONASS and GPS tracking; highly customizable UI out of the box.
In China, the SGS2 retails for about 4300 RMB (about $670 USD). So how does a phone which is in the SGS2's ballpark retail for less than half the price?
It gets even more peculiar. Here are some questions Xiaomi hasn't cleared up(or at least I haven't seen their responses yet):
1) Xiaomi uses a Qualcomm processor and a LCD screen from Sharp (Japanese import). So they can't be using local parts to save costs, how are they able to offer the phone at only $310?
2) Local competitors like Huawei and ZTE who have much more experience in manufacturing (and much more leverage with suppliers) have yet to produce a phone remotely like this. Also, their closest local competition in terms of specs is something like the Huawei Honor, a single core phone that retails for about $400. Yet Xiaomi, which has never produced hardware before is getting better deals than these guys on components? Samsung also does component development in-house, but Xiaomi is getting better pricing than Samsung?
3) Xiaomi was originally a software developer. How did they pull a piece of impressive hardware like this out of nowhere?
4) Why retail for $310? They could sell it for $500 and it would still be way cheaper than an SGS2. Hell, I paid more than 2000 RMB for the crappy 2 year old Nokia I'm still using over here.
My Chinese is OK so I've been trying to read more on the Xiaomi forums, but I haven't really gotten any new information, other than there's something like 300,000 preorders already. I figure there's got to be some serious funny business going on. Probably:
a) ridiculous free loans and/or development assistance from the government to built up national prestige; or
b) copying another phone's internals verbatim; or
c) fake components of some kind
It looked really smooth in the Engadget video, so I'm inclined to be believe it's option A. Good for consumers I guess, but probably lousy if you're a Chinese taxpayer. Any ideas on why the price is so low?
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I'd get the M9 or M9x ( or something.. Quad Core? HELLOOOOO )
I don't see why someone would get a device ONLY for Miui, most phones out there have a build of MIUI.
You really think that $600 phone costs $600 to make?
The markup on electrical goods from brand names can be over 200%
My point is not really related to the idea of a markup, I KNOW all cell phones have a dramatic markup, and I read not long ago an iPhone 4 costs about $180 to make, while they retail for something like $600 out of contract.
I'm more interested in a) How did this company come out of nowhere with this sort of hardware? and b) They don't NEED to sell it for 2000 RMB for it to be a hit. They could have sold it for $400-450 and it would have still been a hell of a lot cheaper than a Galaxy S 2.
That, coupled with the fact that the big guns in China (Meizu, Huawei, ZTE) are not even in the same ballpark with specs or price, is really weird.
If i can demo one and it works well, i'll definitely pick one up, but there must be some serious funny business behind the scenes.
Why must there be funny business?
Well, you can build a cheap phone if you want.
The question is: can you sell it cheap?
Operating costs, brand advertisement etc. They have no problem there, they just build a phone having no ad space on western media.They can do it, they are smart enough.Plus: we enthusiasts are their advertisement plan, we buy it for cheap, all our friends will buy it.
It's a win win scenario.My 2 eurocents.
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My point is not really related to the idea of a markup, I KNOW all cell phones have a dramatic markup, and I read not long ago an iPhone 4 costs about $180 to make, while they retail for something like $600 out of contract.
I'm more interested in a) How did this company come out of nowhere with this sort of hardware? and b) They don't NEED to sell it for 2000 RMB for it to be a hit. They could have sold it for $400-450 and it would have still been a hell of a lot cheaper than a Galaxy S 2.
That, coupled with the fact that the big guns in China (Meizu, Huawei, ZTE) are not even in the same ballpark with specs or price, is really weird.
If i can demo one and it works well, i'll definitely pick one up, but there must be some serious funny business behind the scenes.
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The issue is risk. Do you risk spending $300 on a new unknown brand or do you spend $450 on a noname brand when you can get a well known brand for $600?
There is obviously going to be a greater curve of buyers the lower the price you go and finding the balance is where your marketers need mettle. I think the current price is going to be very good to get users into buying the phone. Obviously, if they can become the new HTC, their markup is going to increase hugely.
My concern is going to be: at ~$300, what is the customer service going to be like? HTC's is mediocre here in the UK, but if Vodafone, Orange et al resell this phone, it's going to be VERY attractive to us as the carriers are held responsible until end of warranty.
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The issue is risk. Do you risk spending $300 on a new unknown brand or do you spend $450 on a noname brand when you can get a well known brand for $600?
There is obviously going to be a greater curve of buyers the lower the price you go and finding the balance is where your marketers need mettle. I think the current price is going to be very good to get users into buying the phone. Obviously, if they can become the new HTC, their markup is going to increase hugely.
My concern is going to be: at ~$300, what is the customer service going to be like? HTC's is mediocre here in the UK, but if Vodafone, Orange et al resell this phone, it's going to be VERY attractive to us as the carriers are held responsible until end of warranty.
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Just to clarify, the retailer is responsible until you have had a reasonable amount of use out of it irrespective of warranty
The law doesn't care about warranties, they're in the best case an agreement that the device will be repaired without the need to take legal action, and in the worst case used to illegally convince consumers they have no rights.
Take my Sensation, afaik it has a 12month warranty.
Say the screen dies after 18 months, I'll be demanding O2 repair or replace it otherwise I'll be contacting trading standards as being a phone provided on a 24 month contract I should be able to expect it to last at least 24 months and more especially considering the price when new.
I love being a consumer in the UK
Xiaomo said:
I support you , and do your know meizu'M9 or MX?
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yes~ Meizu much better than xiaomi
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yes~ Meizu much better than xiaomi
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WHY DID YOU DIG UP OLD THREADS
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Galaxy note 3 and galaxy gear India availability dates confirmed as 25th September .
Eagerly waiting to replace my htc one with note 3
Though htc one was a good phone I still find samsung phones better in terms of usability
Source:
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/samsung-...oming-to-india-on-september-25/420615-11.html
What do you think the price will be?
I am interested in this phone but only at a price of around 35k. Unfortunately I am guessing the opening price will be more like 45k and it will take at least six months to fall to 35.
Strategist said:
What do you think the price will be?
I am interested in this phone but only at a price of around 35k. Unfortunately I am guessing the opening price will be more like 45k and it will take at least six months to fall to 35.
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This is all rumors every Google search about the "Note 3 Price In India" info i got from the web. So take this post with a grain of salt.
Well it's gonna be over 45k not less than 60k at official launch because of high end specs,32\64GB Variants.
When will we see the official update well rumor has it that there might be an Note 3 launch event taking place in New Delhi on 17th September
after that we might see the exact pricing and pre-ordering. For more check this out -->http://www.igyaan.in/58585/exclusive...7th-september/
If your thinking about getting the Note 3 under 45 think be sure to read this: http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-gala...y-8mp-camera-variant-release-emerging-markets
According to them "Samsung would release LCD and AMLOED display variants of the Galaxy Note 3 in order to avoid supply shortages of its AMLOED displays the ET News article indicates that this LCD/8-megapixel camera variant of the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 would likely account for 30 percent of the device’s initial production volume. There's no word on exactly which countries would receive this variant, but China, India and Brazil all qualify as emerging markets. Perhaps we may see Samsung orchestrate this component breakdown similarly to how it does with its processor variants, in which case more Asian, African and Middle Eastern countries would receive the LCD display and 8-megapixel camera variant of the Samsung Galaxy Note 3. And European and North American countries would receive a variant with a different type of display, likely an AMLOED screen of some sort and a 13-megapixel camera."
So i guess the Note 3 16GB mini variant with 8 MP and LCD will be priced under 50k which of course is meant to target the Indian market. I mean come on do you think people in India would shell out 50 k for a phone excluding the super rich.
Again these are all rumored so don't be disappointed just yet.
Most likely by marketing strategy price would be somewhere between 45k to 50k
Galaxy s4 is already trading at 36 37k so the price at the most will be 50k and with the rupee easing now they should comprehensively price it at around 50k
IPhone 5s an epic fail.same as iPhone 5 with a finger print scanner which the whole world can get access to.
Hardly an app to make use of 64 bit architecture
But what does note 3 has to do with iFail
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doccrow said:
Most likely by marketing strategy price would be somewhere between 45k to 50k
Galaxy s4 is already trading at 36 37k so the price at the most will be 50k and with the rupee easing now they should comprehensively price it at around 50k
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I have already putted in Note 2 Forum that Box MRP is 54999 in India. No more details given by insider. Hopefully the darkness will get away at launch event on 17th.
iFail will never be able to make #Notefail.
I am impressed with note 3 after being a note 1 user for like 8 months... so yeah Note 3 for me on Diwali, which will complement my s4, and iPhone too
Lauch date is 17th and availability date is 25th?:what:
I think, it will be launched in price range near 42k - 43k. As all samsungs phones are launched at this price.
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Rumors of the price such high(45k above) are utter crap...
The device will carry an MRP of rs 42500 or 43200 and nothing else after a week or so...
All the blog posts are stating that price because they think the minimum storage of the device is 32gb(high price)... That's crap... They don't realize that 32gb is becoming a norm.
Plus, the price of dollar doesn't even have a say in the price of the device. Dollar is not responsible for the imports from an Asian country. :silly:
Its not the Indian rupee that has fallen against dollar, its the whole Asian currency that's falling.
after using n7000 and flashing many roms, i am hell sure that i am gonna buy N3.
damn look at those spec. :angel: heavenly.
if the battery gave me 4-6 hrs of onscreen time, then it is enough for me.
lets see...
:fingers-crossed:
i agree..it will probably be priced in the 42-45K range.
very impressive device, and was on my wishlist as soon as i heard about it...however, one of the major selling points for me...the fact that it could shoot 4K...is not going to be on the model released in india (4K is a feature of the snapdragon chip which is not being offered here). So it'll be just a speed and screen size upgrade over the note1 which i own currently...so i'll wait for 6 months rather than jump in immediately
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i agree..it will probably be priced in the 42-45K range.
very impressive device, and was on my wishlist as soon as i heard about it...however, one of the major selling points for me...the fact that it could shoot 4K...is not going to be on the model released in india (4K is a feature of the snapdragon chip which is not being offered here). So it'll be just a speed and screen size upgrade over the note1 which i own currently...so i'll wait for 6 months rather than jump in immediately
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Anyway way we could get the snapdragon one in India?
if yes then i will surely try to buy that..
otherwise waiting for 6 -7 months is the only appropriate thing we could do. and also the plus point is that the prices will be reduced too
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Anyway way we could get the snapdragon one in India?
if yes then i will surely try to buy that..
otherwise waiting for 6 -7 months is the only appropriate thing we could do. and also the plus point is that the prices will be reduced too
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I think new octa would be better than snapdragon.
with 2.5x gpu and 20-30% increase in cpu power from the previous version.
HMP is a huge plus too.
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I think new octa would be better than snapdragon.
with 2.5x gpu and 20-30% increase in cpu power from the previous version.
HMP is a huge plus too.
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lets wait..
I'm probably gonna wait for months.
and see the first batch of productions. Till all the bugs and glitches will also be sorted.
well lets hope for the best.
N3 is gonna rule \m/
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I think new octa would be better than snapdragon.
with 2.5x gpu and 20-30% increase in cpu power from the previous version.
HMP is a huge plus too.
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And it's back cover become like hotplate. Ready to make omelets on it.
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And it's back cover become like hotplate. Ready to make omelets on it.
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that is the only reason i am preferring the snapdragon one.
thinking abt importing one.
MBariya said:
And it's back cover become like hotplate. Ready to make omelets on it.
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rofl
Samsung should have fixed it by now in the new revision
atleast we can hope
I think that it will be minimum 45k..this it because there was an increase of 5k from note 1 to note 2..and note 2 was available for 40k when it came out
XDA HellHound said:
I think that it will be minimum 45k..this it because there was an increase of 5k from note 1 to note 2..and note 2 was available for 40k when it came out
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I don't think that will be the case... Samsung is not gonna increase 5k on every iteration of the note series.
increasing 5k on every new device means we will be buying it in 1L some day. That's not gonna happen
S3 was also inflated in price according to S2, but S4 was launched with the same price as S3.
Same will be the case with Note 2 to Note 3 :good:
Tip: Don't buy the device in the first week of launch.
Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?
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Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this. It seems to be a coordinated effort - almost a conspiracy that phones bigger than 5.7 inches don't make it to the USA and/or receive little to zero promotion and/or support.
It's nice to know I'm not the only one whose been clamoring for a 7" phone since the first Samsung Tab was released! PUT A CELLULAR RADIO IN IT, I said.
I'll be bringing the Zenfone 3 Ultra into the states in a couple of months. Might even have a go at opening up the US LTE bands with the post at the top of this forum.
But Why?
mikkej2k said:
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this. It seems to be a coordinated effort - almost a conspiracy that phones bigger than 5.7 inches don't make it to the USA and/or receive little to zero promotion and/or support.
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nathanotis and mikkej2k,
And if the reviewers do review the phablet many say that the phone is way too big. I am convinced that the people that say that have abnormally small hands. LOL.
My question now is, why do you think that there is nothing over 5.7 available in the U.S?
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nathanotis and mikkej2k,
My question now is, why do you think that there is nothing over 5.7 available in the U.S?
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No risk takers in the American market?
Or,
Simple supply and demand. There's not enough demand. Just stick with what's most profitable.
As more people mature ( grow older ) carriers will be forced to sell/allow larger smartphones on their networks. I believe that Sprint , T-Mobile , Verizon , and AT&T are the biggest stumbling blocks to larger phones. After the carriers I think the manufacturers don't want to go big - if they can charge more for less , why not?
*Older people would want larger screens because they are easier to read.*
Better For The Eyes
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*Older people would want larger screens because they are easier to read.*
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I am not old and my eyes are excellent but I agree with the larger screens are easier to read 100%. I very much dislike trying to look at a web page on a sub 6 inch screen. What a horrible experience. If the web page is not designed for mobile you are just scrolling all the time. People are paying all this money to have data on their phones and then having to look at all that tiny font. No thank you. Plus videos and movies look so awesome on the larger size screens.
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Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?
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there is, one that i know for sure is huawei mate 8, a 6 incher, it supports ATT and T-Mo LTE bands in USA.
only gripe - the Kirin 950 SoC, not the performance side of it, but the no source code side of it, meaning no 3rd party roms, OS upgrade and security patches are at mercy of huawei, they are not known to be diligent when it comes to that ..
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review
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It's nice to know I'm not the only one whose been clamoring for a 7" phone since the first Samsung Tab was released! PUT A CELLULAR RADIO IN IT, I said.
I'll be bringing the Zenfone 3 Ultra into the states in a couple of months. Might even have a go at opening up the US LTE bands with the post at the top of this forum.
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The Samsung Tab S 8.4 certainly had a cellular radio in it, that was my last cell phone...
I like big phone and I can not lie....
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The Samsung Tab S 8.4 certainly had a cellular radio in it, that was my last cell phone...
I like big phone and I can not lie....
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How did it work as a phone? Was the size ever a hindrance?
(Just realized you also posted to the other thread I'm watching)
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How did it work as a phone? Was the size ever a hindrance?
(Just realized you also posted to the other thread I'm watching)
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I doesn't easily fit in your pocket, but that's really the only size hindrance. I actually still have it and use it in my car as a navigation device. It still preforms quite well..
It was cheap too under $500 when new, which is quite a bit cheaper than any flagship phone at the time.
It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.
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It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.
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It's priced high because it just came out, if you wait a month it should come down to normal pricing....
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It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.
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The 4GB/64GB model runs for $630 or so for first hand retail (IE: direct from the original seller). The $700 you mentioned is from a reseller (IE: they paid $630 and are reselling it for a small profit).
The 3GB/32GB model runs for about $460, and is probably more in line with the pricing you had heard announced.
The real trick is finding either model in stock at a first hand retailer, as the resellers are buying them up as quickly as they can.
There is a market for the plus 5.7 phones. Everytime one these phones are announced , people that like smaller phones complain as if they'll be forced to switch. Most of those that prefer smaller phones act as though they don't want the larger phones released.
Why does this bother people that like smaller phones? When the original Galaxy Note came out it was groundbreaking for a mainstream company to release a phone that big. Now it's commonplace ( I'm looking at you Apple - iPhone Plus )
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The 4GB/64GB model runs for $630 or so for first hand retail (IE: direct from the original seller). The $700 you mentioned is from a reseller (IE: they paid $630 and are reselling it for a small profit).
The 3GB/32GB model runs for about $460, and is probably more in line with the pricing you had heard announced.
The real trick is finding either model in stock at a first hand retailer, as the resellers are buying them up as quickly as they can.
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Just a little I formation for ones that might be looking to purchase the Asus Zenfone ultra (ZU680KL), with 4gb of ram and 64gb internal memory.
I purchased mine new, from EBay with a one year warranty. Purchase price was 593.00, factory unlocked, with free shipping and handling (still higher than originally advertised). Device came from Never-Msrp, out of Houston, Texas.
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Just a little I formation for ones that might be looking to purchase the Asus Zenfone ultra (ZU680KL), with 4gb of ram and 64gb internal memory.
I purchased mine new, from EBay with a one year warranty. Purchase price was 593.00, factory unlocked, with free shipping and handling (still higher than originally advertised). Device came from Never-Msrp, out of Houston, Texas.
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What carrier are you using your phone on? What type of bands will the phone let you access? What type of factory support do you get? ( if any? )
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What carrier are you using your phone on? What type of bands will the phone let you access? What type of factory support do you get? ( if any? )
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Cricket, which is owned by AT&T, also speeds are capped by them at 4Mbps on 4G and 8Mbps on LTE. I get Hsdpa bands and Gsm bands. The phone has LTE bands, but can't be accessed here. I'm hoping to root soon, not sure if the LTE bands can be accessed then. This however is not real important to me or I would have not purchased the phone anyway. I'm getting 3Mbps on download speeds. Was getting 4-5Mbps on my HTC 10, thru Cricket. Have had no problems to ask for any factory support yet. Asus sent paperwork with phone for a one year warranty against defects and workmanship (standard for most phones). I have something thru eBay, not sure for how long. The warranty really does you no good if you root the phone though. I had a one year warranty on my HTC One M8 and have a one year on my HTC 10, but they are rooted, so their warranties we're voided anyway. Never had to ask for factory support on them either. Asus has a website devoted to their phones, with various types of information, even including how to's on bootloader unlocking on many models (including the zenfone 3 deluxe), source codes, etc.
I guess it's a matter of what you want out of a phone. If you want a faster processor and LTE in the US, this is not the phone for you. It's not the phone my HTC 10 was (gave to my wife), because of the processor, and LTE. But I was essentially looking for a 7 inch tablet with 4gb of ram, great camera, video player with a very good sounding dual speakers, external SD card, and has phone ability. Very hard to find many 7 inch tablets with all the above specs together. I get all of the above with this 6.8 screen Ultra phablet. Also the build quality of this phone has really improved over the previous Asus phones. Realy like the metal workmanship. Not quite as good as HTC 10, but getting there. So far very happy with it and hoping they will unlock the bootloader like they did for the Deluxe.
Thanks for the questions. Never knew how to answer in short sentences. I answer this way in person also. Hope it wasn't to long winded for you.
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Cricket, which is owned by AT&T, also speeds are capped by them at 4Mbps on 4G and 8Mbps on LTE. I get Hsdpa bands and Gsm bands. The phone has LTE bands, but can't be accessed here. I'm hoping to root soon, not sure if the LTE bands can be accessed then. This however is not real important to me or I would have not purchased the phone anyway. I'm getting 3Mbps on download speeds. Was getting 4-5Mbps on my HTC 10, thru Cricket. Have had no problems to ask for any factory support yet. Asus sent paperwork with phone for a one year warranty against defects and workmanship (standard for most phones). I have something thru eBay, not sure for how long. The warranty really does you no good if you root the phone though. I had a one year warranty on my HTC One M8 and have a one year on my HTC 10, but they are rooted, so their warranties we're voided anyway. Never had to ask for factory support on them either. Asus has a website devoted to their phones, with various types of information, even including how to's on bootloader unlocking on many models (including the zenfone 3 deluxe), source codes, etc.
I guess it's a matter of what you want out of a phone. If you want a faster processor and LTE in the US, this is not the phone for you. It's not the phone my HTC 10 was (gave to my wife), because of the processor, and LTE. But I was essentially looking for a 7 inch tablet with 4gb of ram, great camera, video player with a very good sounding dual speakers, external SD card, and has phone ability. Very hard to find many 7 inch tablets with all the above specs together. I get all of the above with this 6.8 screen Ultra phablet. Also the build quality of this phone has really improved over the previous Asus phones. Realy like the metal workmanship. Not quite as good as HTC 10, but getting there. So far very happy with it and hoping they will unlock the bootloader like they did for the Deluxe.
Thanks for the questions. Never knew how to answer in short sentences. I answer this way in person also. Hope it wasn't to long winded for you.
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Also, as a side note. There is a factory rom and source code for the Ultra ZU680KL on Asus site for download, in case you would have a problem.
Motorola nexus 6 is 5.96 inches FYI.
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If you want to know why manufacturers are not shipping as much to the US lately, look at the patent system in the US. Once you ship any products to the US, you are counting down the time until you get sued by someone in east Texas...
Not worth the money to sell things in the US market until this situation gets under control.
What do you think? How much will it cost? Share your opinions on all models!
Current prices: 520€ for 6/64 modell, 570€ for 8/128 modell.
The 256GB one could be the Avangers Edition, but no info/price yet.
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Hope they have a couple of varients.I imagine the 8/256gb varient will be fairly expensive so hoping for maybe 8/128gb.
Will only buy if it is around €550.
Hope they wil announce it early this year
manus31 said:
Hope they have a couple of varients.I imagine the 8/256gb varient will be fairly expensive so hoping for maybe 8/128gb.
Will only buy if it is around €550.
Hope they wil announce it early this year
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I read somewhere that the base (6/64) variant will be ~530€.
But elsewhere i saw 600€+ for the base variant so hope the best
$529 (6/64)
$579 (8/128)
$629 (8/256)
OP1: $300
OP2: $330 +30
OP3: $400 +70
OP3T: $440 +40
OP5: $480 +40
OP5T: $500 +20
I's guess a price around $540 or $550 for base model based off of how it's been going.
It is very simple: If they price it too high people won't buy it. They used to make "flagship killers", but if they get the price even higher with this model, the flagship killer concept actually dies, because it will reach the flagship price. On the other hand, the average OnePlus user has become much more greedier, we want all flagship features possible, stellar cameras, high-res displays, but we are not willing to pay. It's kinda hard for OnePlus to make everyone happy.
if they ask for €600 there will be better options to buy.
Even the note 8 can be found around €650 now
elmonch said:
if they ask for €600 there will be better options to buy.
Even the note 8 can be found around €650 now
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Yeah, good price would be under 600€
I am absolutly happy with my OP5, had the OPO and OPT before, and the amount of money to purchase has been grown up to my personal limit.
500 bucks for a flagship killer is ok, but more....it would be a flagship and nothing different with others.
The community and the developer scene here on XDA is one argument to stay, but we'll see...
Stefan McSleaze said:
I am absolutly happy with my OP5, had the OPO and OPT before, and the amount of money to purchase has been grown up to my personal limit.
500 bucks for a flagship killer is ok, but more....it would be a flagship and nothing different with others.
The community and the developer scene here on XDA is one argument to stay, but we'll see...
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Yeah, i though that too. OP 6 is not much better but still.... Good price or Mi Mix 2S, i can't stay
Double Chin ****** said:
It is very simple: If they price it too high people won't buy it. They used to make "flagship killers", but if they get the price even higher with this model, the flagship killer concept actually dies, because it will reach the flagship price. On the other hand, the average OnePlus user has become much more greedier, we want all flagship features possible, stellar cameras, high-res displays, but we are not willing to pay. It's kinda hard for OnePlus to make everyone happy.
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Lmao at your user name! Your comment is spot on too!
SantinoInc said:
Lmao at your user name! Your comment is spot on too!
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Shh the XDA social justice cops might get me.
_MartyMan_ said:
What do you think? How much will it cost? Share your opinions on all models!
EDIT: Yeah, this thread is a discussion... Sorry -_- If any mod sees this, please move it. Thanks.
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According to chinese sources around 3299 yuan it's around 523$ for 64GB version. 3799 yuan (602$) for 128GB and 4399 yuan (697$) for 256GB version
www.zegadgets.world said:
According to chinese sources around 3299 yuan it's around 523$ for 64GB version. 3799 yuan (602$) for 128GB and 4399 yuan (697$) for 256GB version
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It would be very good! Thanks
Xiaomi MIX 2S vs OnePlus 6? Which one is better for girl?
AbbyQueen said:
Xiaomi MIX 2S vs OnePlus 6? Which one is better for girl?
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We don't know the price of the OP6 yet.
Of course it will be a better phone than the Mi Mix 2S (hp jack, oled display over ips, better default OS imo, but with notch), but if the price is too high, go for the Mix 2S.
EDIT: I have been seeing rumors for two days saying that the price for the base modell will be ~530€.
+ The Chinese release for OP6 is 5th May. (This is also a rumor)
AbbyQueen said:
Xiaomi MIX 2S vs OnePlus 6? Which one is better for girl?
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Gender don't matter ???. You choose which one is better based on their differences.
_MartyMan_ said:
We don't know the price of the OP6 yet.
Of course it will be a better phone than the Mi Mix 2S (hp jack, oled display over ips, better default OS imo, but with notch), but if the price is too high, go for the Mix 2S.
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Are you positive OP6 will have oled screen?
Rumor is that OP6 DXO Mark score is in the triple digits.
IMO this is going to cost at least €600 for the base model. Which will render it a pretty unattractive proposition to any informed consumer, as by the time it's out an S9 should be available for under €600 (can already be had for €630ish).
But then, they've built the brand, and some people will stick with it. Even though this is just going to be a very overpriced Oppo R15 with a SD845.
Still, it should be a significantly better phone than the 5 / 5T, if the R15 (& Pro) are anything to go by.
If you like the look of it, and you don't play mobile games, you should probably save yourself €150 and buy an R15 Pro, or the R15 if you don't mind the MT SoC. It'll be marginally slower, but have better battery life.
So since the dawn of the S6, I've been a huge Samsung fan (and we don't need to go into why I believe that Samsung is the best, that's not why I came here), and I'm also a true Note lover because of the stylus. So my Note literally fell from a 13th-floor balcony and got destroyed, talk about luck and number 13 ?, thank god I had a complete cloud backup of my phone's data and It was just a couple of days old, so no data was lost.
I'm using an ancient backup phone I had just for now until I decide what phone will I buy, but of course, I'm not going to buy a new Note, I plan to buy a mid-range phone so that I can do all my daily tasks, I use my phone a lot at work especially when I'm out of the office for calls, emails, PDF viewing, WhatsApp and Skype besides that there's social media consumption, web browsing, some amateur photography (I'm not a professional), music streaming, youtube, 9gag and light gaming like Egg Inc. and wait for the S21 or whatever Samsung decides to name it.
So I've found out that the TCL 10L 128GB is up for $190 where I am right now so I thought that it's a good idea to buy this one considering the specs and the price.
So my question is at $190 is the TCL 10L 128GB a good phone for the tasks I mentioned above considering It'll only be used until the S21 arrival?
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So since the dawn of the S6, I've been a huge Samsung fan (and we don't need to go into why I believe that Samsung is the best, that's not why I came here), and I'm also a true Note lover because of the stylus. So my Note literally fell from a 13th-floor
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So my question is at $190 is the TCL 10L 128GB a good phone for the tasks I mentioned above considering It'll only be used until the S21 arrival?
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For that price range you could get a better phone, like the Xiaomi Poco X3. It has a bigger battery, a better processor, better benchmark scores in general. And it's around 180€, and since you're buying the next samsung, it'd be better not spending too much.
Raiz said:
For that price range you could get a better phone, like the Xiaomi Poco X3. It has a bigger battery, a better processor, better benchmark scores in general. And it's around 180€, and since you're buying the next samsung, it'd be better not spending too much.
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Well the Poco X3 is $285 where I am now, and I'm on a budget since I'm on a business trip in another country. That's why I liked the 10L offer because is very inexpensive considering the other phones with the same specs.
And since I need a phone ASAP and won't be using it for more than 4 months I thought it would do fine.
So If the X3 is out will the 10L do fine handling my tasks for the time being considering the price.
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Well the Poco X3 is $285 where I am now, and I'm on a budget since I'm on a business trip in another country. That's why I liked the 10L
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for the time being considering the price.
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Oh ok, yes I think you should be fine with it.
Raiz said:
Oh ok, yes I think you should be fine with it.
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Great, thanks for the help.