Should I give up my dream of rooting and just update to 5.1.1? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S6

This guy got me all excited like some big rooting exploit was found :crying:. Since being dumb and updating my phone in mid-summer to 5.0.2, I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for a chance to root my phone. Unfortunately, Verizon ignores the FCC's ruling that they can't disallow the user from doing what they want with their device. Should I keep waiting for someone to find an exploit or should I just give up my dream?
Here's my phone stats just in case someone knows of a way:
Model: SM-G920V
Version: 5.0.2
Kernel Version: 3.10.61
Build ID: LRX22G.G920VVRU2AOF1

Just update your missing out on wifi calling this phone won't be rooted

Does Marshmallow give us a chance?
Taking a different angle, is there a greater or lesser chance of having our phone rooted once Marshmallow is available? Will the newer OS introduce exploits that can affect root? Thanks for any insight you smarter folks can provide

I personally updated to 5.1.1 in the last 4 months, but in all honesty I didn't really utilize root very much, it was more of a play thing for me. I was rooted on all my previous devices though in the last 5 years, so it's not super easy for me to simply drop root on a whim.
I know some people use tethering as they still have unlimited data, which my buddy has a unrooted device and uses FoxFi for, which still works unrooted.
I have to say though that 5.1.1 runs much better than any of the previous rooted roms. I really like the wifi calling because the signal in my apartment isn't too hot (1 bar of 4G) and thus the phone doesn't eat battery at home like it used to. The OS feels a lot more responsive (though the sluggishness is not fully fixed it's much better) and overall it's just a better experience at the moment.
If you need to turn off apps you still can for the most part. There aren't too many you can't disable.
Who knows, maybe once we get Marshmallow there will be a new hole and then we can have the best of both worlds. Here's to hoping.
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matt1733 said:
Just update your missing out on wifi calling this phone won't be rooted
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Why wifi calling? Whats the point of it, really?
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aceof89 said:
Taking a different angle, is there a greater or lesser chance of having our phone rooted once Marshmallow is available? Will the newer OS introduce exploits that can affect root? Thanks for any insight you smarter folks can provide
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It will likely be harder to root. There have been significant changes to 6.0.* to improve "security". I wouldn't really expect root on this device to be widely available.

NetworkingPro said:
Why wifi calling? Whats the point of it, really?
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It will likely be harder to root. There have been significant changes to 6.0.* to improve "security". I wouldn't really expect root on this device to be widely available.
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WiFi calling allows you much clearer calling than normal calls. Even more so when talking to another Verizon customer with the same feature. You don't get locked into bad cell towers (like the places I go) and allows you to VPN where needed - even your calls. It seems like a level more of privacy but it might be that "V" might be listening (ala Microsoft Skype). Don't know about that one.
The upgrades also allow you to video chat with another Verizon customer but it works exceptionally poorly and consumes loads of bandwidth that some networks (and 4G/LTE networks) can't handle.

If we don't have an unlocked bootloader by the time 6.0 rolls out I'll probably just flash that and deal with not being rooted.

skeltonh said:
WiFi calling allows you much clearer calling than normal calls. Even more so when talking to another Verizon customer with the same feature. You don't get locked into bad cell towers (like the places I go) and allows you to VPN where needed - even your calls. It seems like a level more of privacy but it might be that "V" might be listening (ala Microsoft Skype). Don't know about that one.
The upgrades also allow you to video chat with another Verizon customer but it works exceptionally poorly and consumes loads of bandwidth that some networks (and 4G/LTE networks) can't handle.
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You're conflating wifi calling (just the ability to call over wifi - which is not available on 5.02) with HD Voice/Video aka Advanced Calling (which is higher quality voice over LTE, which is available on 5.02). Personally, I've seen 0 instances of having voice over wifi kick in except for the time I forced it on by connecting wifi while having the phone in airplane mode. I have a feeling Verizon doesn't activate it unless there's absolutely zero 4g coverage.

So, I just downloaded the latest king root and it looks as though it worked. Installed root checker and titanium Backup. Everything working as expected. Can anyone confirm, or maybe explain to me how this is too good you be true?
Running build OF1
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I'm a little confused. This thread implies that we don't have root or an unlocked bootloader but the Verizon Galaxy s6 forum seems to be full of threads talking about custom ROMs and rooted devices. Can I root my Verizon Galaxy s6 running lollipop or not?
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PrinceCorwin said:
I'm a little confused. This thread implication that we don't have root or an unlocked bootloader get the Verizon Galaxy s6 forum seems to be full of threads talking about custom ROMs and rooted devices. Can I root my Verizon Galaxy s6 running lollipop or not?
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Read those threads carefully, as any custom ROM and root method only works on older Verizon S6, phones that updated cant be rooted or install ROMs. I believe the cutoff was OE2, but i have taken all updates so i quit keeping track, so check other threads to find out for sure.

Nomad1600 said:
Read those threads carefully, as any custom ROM and root method only works on older Verizon S6, phones that updated cant be rooted or install ROMs. I believe the cutoff was OE2, but i have taken all updates so i quit keeping track, so check other threads to find out for sure.
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So there is no way to flash older firmware and root?
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PrinceCorwin said:
So there is no way to flash older firmware and root?
Sent from my VZW Ellipsis 10.1 (needs rooting method!)
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To the best of my knowledge no but as I mentioned before you are best to research and unless you are certain what you're doing its best to not try.

Droid_JD said:
So, I just downloaded the latest king root and it looks as though it worked. Installed root checker and titanium Backup. Everything working as expected. Can anyone confirm, or maybe explain to me how this is too good you be true?
Running build OF1
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Hey does King Root trip Knox? I want to try but would like to not risk tripping Knox if I can.

kufismacked said:
Hey does King Root trip Knox? I want to try but would like to not risk tripping Knox if I can.
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I don't believe so. Knox still shows 0x0.
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Droid_JD said:
I don't believe so. Knox still shows 0x0.
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Sweet. I'll go ahead and give KingRoot a shot then. Never had a Samsung Phone before. Do I need to unroot before software updates?
Nevermind: I have build OK7. Oh well.

cschuck320 said:
Here's my phone stats just in case someone knows of a way:
Model: SM-G920V
Version: 5.0.2
Kernel Version: 3.10.61
Build ID: LRX22G.G920VVRU2AOF1
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OF1 already patched the rooting exploit.
Don't worry. I was pretty pissed off because I accidentally pressed "Install Now" on my phone even though I was intentionally trying to press Messages on my phone, and my phone became unrootable. I'm just waiting if theres any rooted roms available as staying with OG7

You're going to be waiting a long time
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Related

New OFE Update Availible

I was just messing around on my phone tonight a randomly decided to hit the system update button and there was,an update waiting for me. Brings the phone to OFE instead of OF7. Update is a little over 167mb. Didn't see anything posted yet so here you go.
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Great!
Omahabruin said:
I was just messing around on my phone tonight a randomly decided to hit the system update button and there was,an update waiting for me. Brings the phone to OFE instead of OF7. Update is a little over 167mb. Didn't see anything posted yet so here you go.
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I'm thinking as small as the file is.... Probably some fixes. Definitely not a full update
Dos the rooted of7 kernel work on this?
somebody pull the update.zip..and upload it..if u didnt flash it already..so we can get the boot.img out of it
Just got this this morning. Anybody have a clue what it did, other than bug fixes?
There is a new Samsung bloat app in the drawer now. Also the unread counts color is now matching the theme I am running. I am running Black Gold from the themestore and instead of the ugly Samsung orange unread count it is now gold to match the theme...a very welcome addition imo. Only thing I've noticed so far.
eurominican said:
Dos the rooted of7 kernel work on this?
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I took the plunge. I can say it worked in my phone. I got the ofe update this morning and installed the of7 kernal. Rooted for me! Installed root check and gave me I have root. Note tho this is a risk and I am not responsible if you or anybody else has issues. I maybe just a lucky one. If unsure please wait till ofe kernal with root is released. I am just sharing my experience
its a different kernel in there....i looked..i also pulled the update myself..should have a proper root once i hand it to the kernel dev
DruoGaby said:
its a different kernel in there....i looked..i also pulled the update myself..should have a proper root once i hand it to the kernel dev
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To get root we have to build it from source! The source is not released at this time. Just because the kernel is ofe doesn't make it a different kernel either. Only thing you would see is changes in the ramdisk which i doubt there are any
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ram9200 said:
To get root we have to build it from source! The source is not released at this time. Just because the kernel is ofe doesn't make it a different kernel either. Only thing you would see is changes in the ramdisk which i doubt there are any
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Should be fine using already released root kernel. I'm actually a 100 percent certain
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Rooted kernel worked fine with me too, no problems noted during the day of operation
well i saw a new date on the kernel..sooo...ill wait..no worries...i get um first hand anyway
Here is the link on kernel sources if someone need.
I've seen better battery life and even more LTE in places where I barely even had 3g. And my apps close in the background slightly less often.. So this mini update was waaaay better than the last major update we just got.
elpindian said:
I've seen better battery life and even more LTE in places where I barely even had 3g. And my apps close in the background slightly less often.. So this mini update was waaaay better than the last major update we just got.
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I have to agree, seems as though the memory leak has been fixed as well. This is how the s6 was suppose to feel right from the beginning!
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ram9200 said:
I have to agree, seems as though the memory leak has been fixed as well. This is how the s6 was suppose to feel right from the beginning!
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I say partially fixed. I'm still getting refreshes, just not nearly as often. But my RAM is still always close to 80% full even with all the fun stuff disabled.
Is it hard to unroot to take the update? Or should i just wait for a custom flashable ROM? I've always jad HTC phones haha. Thanks guys.
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elpindian said:
I've seen better battery life and even more LTE in places where I barely even had 3g. And my apps close in the background slightly less often.. So this mini update was waaaay better than the last major update we just got.
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ram9200 said:
I have to agree, seems as though the memory leak has been fixed as well. This is how the s6 was suppose to feel right from the beginning!
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Ohhh.... I may have to bite the bullet an actually update then. I was going to take a "wait and see" approach and try to maintain KNOX. But I really dont give a crap about maintaining KNOX anyway TBH - I wont use Samsung pay so who cares? I may just go ahead, take the OTA and Root 5.1.1. The sounds like the update we've been waiting on. It integrates LTE carrier AGGREGATION which is better for people in spotty LTE coverage areas.
Any last minute words of wisdom/advice before I take the 5.1.1 plunge and cant go back?!
I dont really see 5.1.1 getting root that wont trip KNOX like PingPong anyway. The Flashfire method has never really materialized. I have yet to see a tutorial or FAQ for Sprint users to update to 5.1.1 Rom with Flashfire and avoid modifying the bootloader to spare KNOX and keep pingpong root. Not sure it will happen... I mean I know its theoretically very possible. I just have not seen it confirmed that a Sprint users has FlashFired to 5.1.1/OF7, new firmware and all, but kept old bootloader/boot partition and maintained their KNOX free pingpong root.
Rollout Schedule:
 7/13 5% of base
 7/18 20% of base
 7/20 30% of base
 7/22 40% of base
 7/24 50% of base
 7/26 60% of base
 7/28 75% of base
 7/30 100% of base
Details:
 A software update to G920PVPU2BOFE is available for the Samsung Galaxy S 6 beginning, 7/1315
 Stores are reminded to update demo devices to the most current software version.
Fixes/Enhancements:
 Enable Carrier Aggregation 2x20
 Various Bug Fixes
so is the original 5.1.1 supposed to be done rolling out by now? I still have not received it....I went to a local best buy asking for a manual update and they told me "you already have the latest version." so that was obviously no help. anyone know where or how i can perform this update manually? everytime i check for updates it says "error connecting to server at this time"
I gave in and just updated to OFE. I must be in the 5% initial rollout! Root incoming.

Flash this Note 5 or keep it stock?

So I always root every single phone I get days into getting it. It has been different with this one. I want to root it so badly but I really want to use Samsung Pay. Chase Bank JUST got support, even though I don't have Chase, my girlfriend does so I can use her card from my phone lol.
I haven't been able to find anything indicating KNOX won't be tripped by ANY root method or even being reversed. If I could reset the KNOX counter then I will root away, but there isn't anyway to do that.
I don't even know what I'm asking, any input? Thanks folks!
Edit: It's a T-Mobile Note 5 SM-N920T
You will probably get better help if you had a moderator move this to the T-mobile Q and A threads.
CodeNameRedNeck said:
You will probably get better help if you had a moderator move this to the T-mobile Q and A threads.
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Thanks, I'm not on much.
Squarez said:
I haven't been able to find anything indicating KNOX won't be tripped by ANY root method or even being reversed. If I could reset the KNOX counter then I will root away, but there isn't anyway to do that.
Edit: It's a T-Mobile Note 5 SM-N920T
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Nope - not going to happen. Rooting the Note 5 trips the Knox flag and it cannot be reset. Pingpong root (which didn't trip Knox) was killed off before the Note 5. If you root there will be no Samsung Pay (and the like), probably ever.
That said I rooted - as you can see from my signature I also have an iPhone, which I use for Apple Pay, so no worries!!!!
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apd said:
Nope - not going to happen. Rooting the Note 5 trips the Knox flag and it cannot be reset. Pingpong root (which didn't trip Knox) was killed off before the Note 5. If you root there will be no Samsung Pay (and the like), probably ever.
That said I rooted - as you can see from my signature I also have an iPhone, which I use for Apple Pay, so no worries!!!!
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I got a chance to use Samsung Pay with my girlfriends Chase card today and I'm not impressed. I waited all this time for nothing. Oh well, time to root. Any suggestions on method and ROM?
Root - no strong feelings!
Rom @drketan L6 - love it!!! And a responsive developer - fabulous!!!
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lol.
You should really root. Opens up so many possibilities. Ad blocking, titanium backup, cache cleaning, the list goes on and on.
Not to mention the roms.
I'm on Tek's latest rom and it's sooo much better than stock.
Just borrow her chase card.
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Here's how to root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3187422
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This is the rom I'm running.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3201869
I am in the same situation. Not asking if I should root or not but haven't decided for myself. Been with android since 08 and have rooted every phone I've had, Knox is a different animal all together and, tho I like the note I know I won't be with it for too terribly long. I think tripping Knox will hurt the resale...I remember why I didn't care for Samsung all to well now.
Don't really see how tripping Knox effects resale since most buyers wouldn't know how to check. Just root. Life's too short.
Yeah, come to the dark side. Root for all the people on the other carriers with locked bootloaders.
Android_Monsters said:
Yeah, come to the dark side. Root for all the people on the other carriers with locked bootloaders.
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Amen. I myself am a recovering AT&T victim and I was so bummed when I learned they lock the bootloaders. That's one of the main reasons I switched to T-Mobile
On topic: Root it. Samsung pay is sorta cool, but sacrificing all the features you get with root for one sorta cool feature doesn't add up to me.
I don't miss root at all. Especially with AdGuard and the ability to use my custom font, I'd rather have Samsung Pay and updates when they're out.
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darkjedi said:
I don't miss root at all. Especially with AdGuard and the ability to use my custom font, I'd rather have Samsung Pay and updates when they're out.
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correct my fellow xda member. With the xml that shuts down so many apps and the ability to change my fonts and finally nova launcher. With all this in place and a 1+ that I have rooted and running marshmallow life is grand. To those that say you are not impressed with the ability to not carry you cards with you and simply touch and pay you make no sense. Also why root a Samsung phone which can be used at 95% of the places you go and keep an Apple because of Apple Pay? If there is Apple Pay then there is Android Pay and Samsung gives you two options.
Sorry just my opinion on things but I root to remove bloat and increase battery life. Of course some options are great but I have found alternatives which help me cope. First phone since winmo days that I have not touched per se
TarquinnBlackwood said:
Don't really see how tripping Knox effects resale since most buyers wouldn't know how to check. Just root. Life's too short.
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Guess it's honesty. I wouldn't sell something without disclosing pertinent information. It's not this short life I am worried over.
But, if you buy a used phone you expect the first owner to have used it. It's like saying you won't listen to music on it cause you might hurt the speakers.
I'm glad you're happy being not rooted. The note 5 is awesome stock.
As for me, I got mine the day they were released and was rooted the second I got to my cpu.
I've no regrets. I had to do an exchange. They gave me a new one no questions asked.
Knox isn't really the big deal people think it is.
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I'm religious, too. Just hate the bloatware that comes with the stock rom, need my root apps, and love me some roms.
To each their own.
Trust me. I work at a cell phone store. You won't have any trouble selling your note 5 when you want to part with it.
darkjedi said:
I don't miss root at all. Especially with AdGuard and the ability to use my custom font, I'd rather have Samsung Pay and updates when they're out.
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Adguard?
beep
Here's the link for adguard:
https://m.adguard.com/en/welcome.html
Looks like they are not on the playstore.
TarquinnBlackwood said:
But, if you buy a used phone you expect the first owner to have used it. It's like saying you won't listen to music on it cause you might hurt the speakers.
I'm glad you're happy being not rooted. The note 5 is awesome stock.
As for me, I got mine the day they were released and was rooted the second I got to my cpu.
I've no regrets. I had to do an exchange. They gave me a new one no questions asked.
Knox isn't really the big deal people think it is.
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I'm religious, too. Just hate the bloatware that comes with the stock rom, need my root apps, and love me some roms.
To each their own.
Trust me. I work at a cell phone store. You won't have any trouble selling your note 5 when you want to part with it.
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You are right, to each their own. I have been on androids since the g1 pre order October of 08, rooted all my phone's and compiled cyan or AOSP for most of them. This is the first phone I have had that by rooting you actually lose something useful besides warranty. I agree, root is better but with the ability to still block ads and literally turn off services it's not as important to me as it once was. Your music analogy is flawed tho, listening to music should in no way void your warranty or remove a feature of the phone. Odds are, in an exchange situation they probably wouldn't even check, they could tho.
You are right, most people wouldn't know how to check for Knox but those same people probably know how to use pay, and an ever increasing chance they will want to.
Hard to say this after hating touchwiz for so long but you are right again, after a bit of tweaking the note isn't all thar bad stock, if I decide to keep the phone for a length of time, I will root it depending on software updates etc but that's also an added feature with android, it's your choice. I'll take the perceived hit on selling it with full disclosure.
Both of you have valid points.
I rooted because I hate, Hate, HATE FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM AND WHAT'S APP AND ALL THAT OTHER BULLSTUFF!!! Sorry got intense there. Bloat does nothing but steal, and for a device that has to be so "secure," they are sure keen on securing the wrong things.
I really do hope no information such as credit card info is being shared by the Bloat apps. Yes they say Samsung pay is secure.....*1 year later* Have you or anyone you know used Samsung Pay?!
Just saying, you never know. I rather use my card itself anyways. No one has successfully stolen it yet. Weird thing too though, as I'm getting older; and I'm 29, I've been using cash a lot more often instead of swiping my card.
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What do you hope to achieve with ROOT

When a root method is released for the S7 flat and S7 Edge, what do you hope to mod or fix or enhance?
Here's a short list of what I want to achieve with root.
1: Unlock or Activate the FM radio capabilities for the T-mobile version (not just the Sprint version).
2. Own a device that doesn't tell me who the boss is, 'cause it's ME and not the manufacturer.
EDIT: I guess this thread is mute now, because there will not be root in the forseeable future.
Same as you except... Delete bloatware (T-Mobile TV I'm looking at you) , adaway and most important xposed for xprivacy cause games shouldn't need my phone imei number and location to play
grmcrkrs said:
When a root method is released for the S7 flat and S7 Edge, what do you hope to mod or fix or enhance?
Here's a short list of what I want to achieve with root.
1: Unlock or Activate the FM radio capabilities for the T-mobile version (not just the Sprint version).
2. Own a device that doesn't tell me who the boss is, 'cause it's ME and not the manufacturer.
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Number 1 on your list may be a bit of a long shot. Note 4 & S6 both have FM Radio hardware but have been locked by T-Mob and have yet to be activated.
All the same, I'm looking forward to root so I can DELETE what I don't want, rather than "disable but still leave it eating up space on my phone". LOL
FM Radio should be possible... all the hardware is the same... I'm betting this is the year it we figure out how to unlock that.
Yeah I see the AT&T version comes with fm radio enabled. I sent a tweet out to T-Mobile complaining about why the fm chip is disabled.
ROMS
Waiting for Clean Rom. S7 is going to rock when that comes out. 4gb ram will be put to good use. : good:
Ads
Dual roms. I miss that from the note 4. Samsung pay with root would be pretty sweet too.
danon.brown said:
Dual roms. I miss that from the note 4. Samsung pay with root would be pretty sweet too.
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I'd be happy for dual roms. What about a Linux environment that can run Ubuntu apps natively... I guess that's too much to ask also... (I know I know, chroot inside of android, but it's not the same)
1. Remove or disable system apps
2. Do whatever I want with my phone (install Xposed, change or customize settings, install apps that need root, etc)
It's my pocket computer, so I shall be the admin / superuser of it.
Will Samsung Pay work after root?
I read it add to resale value if you dont root.
chong67 said:
Will Samsung Pay work after root?
I read it add to resale value if you dont root.
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If it's anything like the S6/Edge there'll be 2 options 1 keep Samsung Pay but lose fingerprint sensor or 2 keep fingerprint sensor and lose Samsung PAy
Unlock, carrier unlock so I can take my phone to any carrier CDMA or GSM.
chong67 said:
Will Samsung Pay work after root?
I read it add to resale value if you dont root.
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Who knows on that one with infamous Knox, but we got Android Pay to work on rooted Nexus 6P devices.
Th3Bill said:
Number 1 on your list may be a bit of a long shot. Note 4 & S6 both have FM Radio hardware but have been locked by T-Mob and have yet to be activated.
All the same, I'm looking forward to root so I can DELETE what I don't want, rather than "disable but still leave it eating up space on my phone". LOL
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I don't really recall anyone actively trying to gain access to the FM receiver on the S6. That could be the issue there. I don't think there was ever a thread or request for it. There's a chance I missed it too lol
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Nextstep said:
Unlock, carrier unlock so I can take my phone to any carrier CDMA or GSM.
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You don't need to root for that. Some phones get methods to do it without contacting the carrier but if you're rooting just for that... there's a much better way lol
I want to be able to use tincore and moonlight at their full capacity. Seems ridiculous to me that certain input devices (such as a mouse) require root access to be fully utilized... feels like that should be standard functionality.
danon.brown said:
Dual roms. I miss that from the note 4. Samsung pay with root would be pretty sweet too.
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Finally I found a previous owner of a Note 4, if I may ask how are you liking the S7 and do you recommend I make the change or is there no notable difference between them?.
glm0025 said:
Finally I found a previous owner of a Note 4, if I may ask how are you liking the S7 and do you recommend I make the change or is there no notable difference between them?.
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Coming from the note 4 I would say go for it. I'm a phone junky and I'm coming from the note 5. I miss the pen at times but I didn't use it heavily so I'll manage. Still missing the IR blaster but have found a solution for that. The phone is awesome. Great battery ?, super quick, aosp support, great ? and its water resistant. With tmobile jump on demand I'll just get the note 6 when I comes out. If you're coming from the note 4 I would say get it. Grab the edge since its hust a tad smaller. The regular s7 won't cut it.
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If I can figure out how the new coding works and where the correct lines are at I'm hoping to put out a modded camera. Pre-Kit-Kat (or LP, can't remember) it was easy. Decompile to .smali files, find MediaRecorder.smali and edit the array. Now it looks like the data I'm looking for isn't in there and has been placed elsewhere or it's wholly HW controlled. If anyone has some insight on this I'd love to edit some bit rates and much more, PM me if you know anything.
Anyway aside from the normal things, that's what I'm looking forward to. Also since we have a SnapDragon: some AOSP and/or AOKP finally!!!
mainly to remove bloat, adblocker and customs roms

Root on S8?

You guys think the S8 will get root?
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Probably only exynos and after sometime maybe the sd835 version
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I thought dirty cow made all phones easier to root? I have to have Arise.
I did read they had locked the bootloader so rooting and custom roms would be a problem. But that might only be for the snapdragon ones. I will need to find out what the situation is because if I can't get my custom roms on it and have things like xposed then I'm simply not interested in it. Luckily I'm in the UK so maybe the exynos version will be ok.
I am also wondering whether the S8 and S8+ use the same bootloader? If they do then the phones are effectively identical in terms of hardware AND software and roms should work on either device?
Although with the price, the crappy battery, and the dishonest way they have seemingly put out battery life numbers which are based on running it at 1080 and NOT its native 1440, simply so they can get a similar comparison to the S7 (which WAS running at 1440), I am wondering whether I should even bother. Although I am not sure what else there is out there. Pixel is too expensive considering it uses an old chipset, the G6 is a bit on the weak side with the chipset again, I havent really looked at the Sony but I'm not really a fan of Sony in general.
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hey bro the pre order on samsung UK website is the exynos one right?
europe is only getting exynos so it must be
anyone tried this
https://www.restore-iphone-data.com/safely-root-samsung-galaxy.html
waninae39 said:
anyone tried this
https://www.restore-iphone-data.com/safely-root-samsung-galaxy.html
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I'm guessing that once the devices are released we'll have more options, however, if the devices aren't out yet, how does this purport to work?
As a Verizon user I've learned to not even ask about root or look forward to it. And you know what. I'm ok with that.
Without unlocked bootloader, root and ready to install custom AOSP Rom with xposed, I do not need a new phone.
At that point there are absolutely no reasons to downgrade my Nexus 6.
I really like the features that offer Galaxy s8 plus but software is over 60% of any device.
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cdmoore74 said:
As a Verizon user I've learned to not even ask about root or look forward to it. And you know what. I'm ok with that.
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It just incredible, you are missing so much with your phone !!
x111 said:
Without unlocked bootloader, root and ready to install custom AOSP Rom with xposed, I do not need a new phone.
At that point there are absolutely no reasons to downgrade my Nexus 6.
I really like the features that offer Galaxy s8 plus but software is over 60% of any device.
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It just incredible, you are missing so much with your phone !!
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There really doesnt seem to be that much to miss. Titanium, and a few customized menus. Not that big.
johnwayne27 said:
There really doesnt seem to be that much to miss. Titanium, and a few customized menus. Not that big.
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I agree, as devices and the OS get polished more and more over the iterations, there is less realistic every-day need to root each time.
That said, and like most of Android power users (xda?), I miss deep customizations like those on top of Xposed, plus one key tool that I have gotten used to live with: GMD GestureControl (control the system via finger gestures)... Plus Titanium Backup as well
I'm sure someone will leak a eng.kernel for the US SD835 models, that's has happened with the S7 and S7e. That will allow root for us, takes a little more work to get it running good as the eng.kernels are just meant for development and unlocking devices so the kernel CPU settings are all messed up.
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Quickvic30 said:
I'm sure someone will leak a eng.kernel for the US SD835 models, that's has happened with the S7 and S7e. That will allow root for us, takes a little more work to get it running good as the eng.kernels are just meant for development and unlocking devices so the kernel CPU settings are all messed up.
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Then we will be "stuck" on the "cracked" firmware until another fix is found. Root/bootloader unlock is NOT going to happen with this device.
lightninbug said:
Then we will be "stuck" on the "cracked" firmware until another fix is found. Root/bootloader unlock is NOT going to happen with this device.
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I'm sure root will happen.....when.....who knows. The S7 and s7e had eng.kernels for MM and Nougat all within a few months If even that.
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Quickvic30 said:
I'm sure root will happen.....when.....who knows. The S7 and s7e had eng.kernels for MM and Nougat all within a few months If even that.
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Yeah and the eng kernels are crap
Quickvic30 said:
I'm sure root will happen.....when.....who knows. The S7 and s7e had eng.kernels for MM and Nougat all within a few months If even that.
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Hopefully at least root, or I'll have to jump to the Pixel 2.
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nitroevo said:
Yeah and the eng kernels are crap
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They are out of the box yes but you can adb super user and scripts to fix that. We actually running great on the tmo S7 edge. I'm getting same as stock battery life if not better and performance is like stock if not better. Took alot of work/trial and error though.
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To all the people who are talking about Xposed here: you do realize that Xposed for nougat isn't out yet right? And those devices ship with nougat so unless someone makes a marshmallow rom you aren't going to have xposed.
That may be a deal breaker, but it's not Samsung's fault.
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To all the people who are talking about Xposed here: you do realize that Xposed for nougat isn't out yet right? And those devices ship with nougat so unless someone makes a marshmallow rom you aren't going to have xposed.
That may be a deal breaker, but it's not Samsung's fault.
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???
It is clearly understood that xposed does not exist on M(..yet) just as it is clearly understood that even if xposed did exist on N it would still not exisit on a phone with a unlockable boot looader... which is Samsungs/fault. See how that works?:silly:

root access to S8 or S8+

does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access
Yeah I also want to root it. Plz anyone tell the method.
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Won't be a method until it's released, then I'm certain the devs here will start cracking on it. Give time, the guys here are pretty good at what they do but there's still no guarantee root will be achieved (US models that is).
waninae39 said:
does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access
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Root will happen
(If not I'll be suprised)
Look at s7 edge (exynos) if you want to have the approximate method.
Once twrp is released, I bet around the beginning of Mai, you will be able to install it using Odin (breaks knox, s pay, etc)
From there you'll be able to flash whatever you want (magisk, SuperSU, etc)
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Although I just stumbled over this:
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Finally, the Exynos 8895 also includes what Samsung is calling an “enhanced security sub-system with a separate security processing unit” for use with user authentication, mobile payments, and the like. Based on Samsung’s description this sounds a heck of a lot like Apple’s Secure Enclave, which would be a very welcome development, as in Apple’s case it has made their phones a lot harder to break into.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11149/...-8895-soc-10nm
yeah, saw on their website that encryption layers are going to be a lot stronger. I still think it'll be cracked. It's a large enough phone. just might take longer than normal.
Even root on Verizon's locked bootloader?
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Yea root not enough for me, also need unlocked bootloader
geez the phones not even out yet. Gotta give the devs time to get there hands on the phone, then time to actually find a way to root it.
Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?
I bought this phone knowing it's going to be at least a year before at minimum root being achieved
if at all ,so I'm not getting my hopes up at all
This phone might be the straw the breaks the developers backs
I only needed a rooted phone for ARU unchained anyway ,but since the area51 got it to work unrooted
I can afford to wait
The Phone Company said:
Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates.
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What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…
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I hear you, preference I guess, I just like being up to date. I find that sometimes you are unable to use certain features without the updates.
I have the note 4 myself, and the only update that was a problem with that phone was MM, you could not downgrade from it. I have the AT&T variant so, no root access, and the current temp root that they have listed on the forums is not viable because your only temp rooted on experimental testing firmware.
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
bryce850 said:
I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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Thanks! Now I know.
Zeal415 said:
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
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Haha, Buzby (as I call it) is the one INTRUSION I do NOT want!! Never asked for it, just forced upon us. This would be great, but I suspect the Phone already has Bixby embedded into it, what with all the hype (publicity for it) about it not functioning at launch I believe is a marketing ploy to bring attention to it. The part that is not being made available at launch is their end, nothing to do with needing an update for it to work (for those who blindly want it).
See, you watch, they will make such a big deal, like a major announcement when it is made to function and they "switch on their Bixby servers" it'll be posted all over the web like when the Note 7 fiasco (supposedly) happened.
Stop for second. And think. THINK. For yourself. That right there is invaluable advice. Bixby is not your friend.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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I use it also from my S7 Edge. Works just fine. I have the BT version of the Gear S3 tho. Pay dont work with international(the one on amazon) version of the S3.

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