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No Lollipop for India (XT1033)?

If you look at the software update news page of Motorola, and scroll down to where you purchased the device, the dual-sim Indian version of Moto G isn't listed.
We're probably not going to get an early update for our XT1033 devices.

[email protected] said:
If you look at the software update news page of Motorola, and scroll down to where you purchased the device, the dual-sim Indian version of Moto G isn't listed.
We're probably not going to get an early update for our XT1033 devices.
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don't worry. when you have a look at the other providers like t-mobile or verizon etc, the xt1032 (single sim) doesn't appear either. it is probably the case, that motorola just haven't added the devices in the provider list, but i am sure that everybody can still enjoy android lollipop when it gets released

its confirmed already dude you must go to country option in site and select india you can find the info . check out this link https://motorola-mobility-en-in.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/2014#gs=eyJndWlkZUlEIjoyMDE0LCJxdWVzdGlvbklEIjoxLCJyZXNwb25zZUlEIjoxOSwiZ3VpZGVTZXNzaW9uIjoiSHprV3R0NW0iLCJzZXNzaW9uSUQiOiJIemtXdHQ1bSJ9

pico hackr said:
its confirmed already dude you must go to country option in site and select india you can find the info . check out this link https://motorola-mobility-en-in.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/2014#gs=eyJndWlkZUlEIjoyMDE0LCJxdWVzdGlvbklEIjoxLCJyZXNwb25zZUlEIjoxOSwiZ3VpZGVTZXNzaW9uIjoiSHprV3R0NW0iLCJzZXNzaW9uSUQiOiJIemtXdHQ1bSJ9
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ooopss...my bad.

[email protected] said:
ooopss...my bad.
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when you select Retail from the dropdown menu,
you will get this message
"This device will be upgraded to the Android 5 Lollipop release of Android, pending partner support."

Soak tests for xt1033 have already started and we will get the update by the end of november or December first week.

sorry if this is a stupid question, but if i've already unlocked the bootloader, and installed root and recovery but i didnt change/modify the original ROM 4.4.4 from my moto G, to get the lolipop update, i just need to install the original "stock" recovery or i will need to flash everything (firmware/radio/originalrom, etc) again? thanks

rickastillo said:
sorry if this is a stupid question, but if i've already unlocked the bootloader, and installed root and recovery but i didnt change/modify the original ROM 4.4.4 from my moto G, to get the lolipop update, i just need to install the original "stock" recovery or i will need to flash everything (firmware/radio/originalrom, etc) again? thanks
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If you're rooted, you changed your system.
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Virgin Mobile Marshmallow Update

Hey guys, do you know anything about the marshmallow update for Virgin mobile Moto G's?
(xt1548)

Nothing so far for me yet, wearing out the system update button

Me too?

Apparently, the Virgin Mobile Varient of the Moto G 2015 ota is now being rolled out in Canada. This means soon for us US peeps! Source: http://mobilesyrup.com/2016/01/16/moto-g-3rd-gen-update-to-marshmallow-now-available-in-canada/

yugioh1412 said:
Apparently, the Virgin Mobile Varient of the Moto G 2015 ota is now being rolled out in Canada. This means soon for us US peeps! Source: http://mobilesyrup.com/2016/01/16/moto-g-3rd-gen-update-to-marshmallow-now-available-in-canada/
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Unfortunately, no it doesn't. Virgin Canada is not associated with Virgin Mobile USA in any way. Virgin Canada is a completely different company and actually uses gsm phones, not the cdma phones used on VM USA. For what it's worth, VM USA is not known for rolling out updates, timely or otherwise.

It seems the only way to update the software to Marshmallow is to buy an unlocked version of the device (as I have seen 6.0 on the unlocked device at a Best Buy demo) , or unlock the Virgin Mobile one you already have. Otherwise, I think Virgin is never going to release an OTA for the update.

rtd62 said:
It seems the only way to update the software to Marshmallow is to buy an unlocked version of the device (as I have seen 6.0 on the unlocked device at a Best Buy demo) , or unlock the Virgin Mobile one you already have. Otherwise, I think Virgin is never going to release an OTA for the update.
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I thought the Virgin Mobile version was not eligible for bootloader unlocking on Moto's site? There is no other known way to bootloader unlock the device. And an unlocked version (ie. full retail version) would not be CDMA since Moto did not sell those directly or through a 3rd party like Amazon, only carriers, so it wouldn't work on VM anyway. Not to call you a liar but I don't think you were looking at a Virgin Mobile device...

acejavelin said:
I thought the Virgin Mobile version was not eligible for bootloader unlocking on Moto's site? There is no other known way to bootloader unlock the device. And an unlocked version (ie. full retail version) would not be CDMA since Moto did not sell those directly or through a 3rd party like Amazon, only carriers, so it wouldn't work on VM anyway. Not to call you a liar but I don't think you were looking at a Virgin Mobile device...
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No you're right - What I meant to say is that the version of the phone I saw with 6.0 was an unlocked one - not one from VM. I do not think (as hopeful as I am, still) that VM is ever going to release an update to 6.0 - They usually just release phones with the OS it comes with and that's all you get.

So is there anyway to get Marshmallow or not?9

Soak test underway begun end of April so hopefully in next few weeks

Source?

I'm on virgin mobile, with my moto g3.
I got my boot loader unlocked and TWRP along with xposed. All that works great. But everytime I go and try a custom rom I have to revert to the TWRP backup. And that works fantastic. Just takes it time.
I'd really like a mm rom for this guy. This stock rom sucks the big one.

420blazeitfaget said:
I'm on virgin mobile, with my moto g3.
I got my boot loader unlocked and TWRP along with xposed. All that works great. But everytime I go and try a custom rom I have to revert to the TWRP backup. And that works fantastic. Just takes it time.
I'd really like a mm rom for this guy. This stock rom sucks the big one.
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I have the CM13 nightly flashed to mine. What do you mean you have to revert to the TWRP back up? What isn't working? The only major issue I had was the APN settings which is easily fixed.
Wipe
Flash ROM
Flash Gapps
Reboot
Flash LTE fix.

Marshmallow is out for the Virgin Mobile, Moto G3 today. Have fun, everyone!

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Marshmallow is out for the Virgin Mobile, Moto G3 today. Have fun, everyone!
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im rooted and have a unlocked bootloader
how would i safely go about updating to 6.0 without bricking my phone

420blazeitfaget said:
im rooted and have a unlocked bootloader
how would i safely go about updating to 6.0 without bricking my phone
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Do you have a nandroid backup from before root? What rom/version are you on now
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Do you have a nandroid backup from before root? What rom/version are you on now
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I have a TWRP backup should I make a nandorid? And I'm using the virgin mobile 5.1.1 xt1548 Motorola Moto G 3rd generation. Stock rom custom kernel.

It is here and it is NOT working for me. After re-flashing original recovery and riding of TWRP it loads maybe 15% and hits me with an error. No error code just the animation for a split second and it reboots.

I'm not sure if anyone has any info. The virgin mobile moto g was just it's updated to marshmallow. I'm
wondering if there's any root yet?

CarlosR5918 said:
I'm not sure if anyone has any info. The virgin mobile moto g was just it's updated to marshmallow. I'm
wondering if there's any root yet?
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Standard systemless root with current SuperSU works fine, just like it does with all stock Moto Marshmallow devices.
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Q | flashing moto maxx onto DROID turbo

Hi guys!
I searched and somone has opened a thread about this but never got an answer:
I have an unlocked droid turbo and was wondering if i can flash stock moto maxx firmware onto it?
(I think it was the 1250 that was identical? Correct me if im wrong..)
If so, am i likely to run into any problems?
How am i to go about doing it?
I am on a non-Verizon gsm network so no problem there.
Thanks!

You cannot flash the maxx firmware onto the turbo. The xt1250 maxx is the same as the turbo, xt1254, but the maxx xt1225 firmware isn't compatible and a lot of things will not work right if you can get it to boot.
the XT1250 does not have marshmallow yet, Nor does the Turbo. Only the XT1225 has Marshmallow, and thats the brazil firmware

It wasn't for marshmallow, but for the stock experience and performance.
Thanks for the quick reply!

Xeroman0 said:
It wasn't for marshmallow, but for the stock experience and performance.
Thanks for the quick reply!
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If you want Stock, I recommend Computerfreaks Rom, its based on the latest stock firmware, and debloated with performance tweaks

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Droid Turbo, not Moto Turbo
@Xeroman0, please change your title to DROID TURBO. -- not just "Turbo". Motorola used the Turbo name for more than one Quark.
There's also a Moto Turbo and YES you can flash Moto Maxx and Moto Turbo over each other.
In the body of your question you finally say Droid Turbo, but the title is misleading. I have actually flashed Moto Maxx and Moto Turbo firmware back and forth over my XT1225.
Xeroman0 said:
Hi guys!
I searched and somone has opened a thread about this but never got an answer:
I have an unlocked droid turbo and was wondering if i can flash stock moto maxx firmware onto it?
(I think it was the 1250 that was identical? Correct me if im wrong..)
If so, am i likely to run into any problems?
How am i to go about doing it?
I am on a non-Verizon gsm network so no problem there.
Thanks!
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You cannot flash the maxx firmware onto the turbo.
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1) You can if it's the Moto Maxx XT1225 to Moto Turbo XT1225.
You can get away with just saying "Turbo" in the Droid Turbo forum but not over here, please.
I realize in the remainder of your answer, which I edited off you did go on to explain. Just saying, it helps if we are clear from the beginning.
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2) Also YES, you can flash XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx firmware over the Droid Turbo XT1254. They are the same device.
People have flashed the XT1254 firmware over the bootloader unlocked XT1250 and it worked fine (back before you could unlock the XT1254 bootloader). So, it should work the other way too.
But all the XT1250 has for stock image is 5.0.2. If you try it, make sure your bootloader is unlocked. And make sure you are actually flashing the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx firmware and not the XT1225 Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo firmware.
Still the least riskiest for an XT1254 Droid Turbo is your suggestion for @Computerfreak274's Rom -- if you want pure Motorola stock experience that's debloated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/development/computerfreekunlocked1-0-t3255945

ChazzMatt said:
@Xeroman0, please change your title to DROID TURBO. -- not just "Turbo". Motorola used the Turbo name for more than one Quark.
There's also a Moto Turbo and YES you can flash Moto Maxx and Moto Turbo over each other.
In the body of your question you finally say Droid Turbo, but the title is misleading. I have actually flashed Moto Maxx and Moto Turbo firmware back and forth over my XT1225.
1) You can if it's the Moto Maxx XT1225 to Moto Turbo XT1225.
You can get away with just saying "Turbo" in the Droid Turbo forum but not over here, please.
I realize in the remainder of your answer, which I edited off you did go on to explain. Just saying, it helps if we are clear from the beginning.
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2) Also YES, you can flash XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx firmware over the Droid Turbo XT1254. They are the same device.
People have flashed the XT1254 firmware over the bootloader unlocked XT1250 and it worked fine (back before you could unlock the XT1254 bootloader). So, it should work the other way too.
But all the XT1250 has for stock image is 5.0.2. If you try it, make sure your bootloader is unlocked. And make sure you are actually flashing the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx firmware and not the XT1225 Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo firmware.
Still the least riskiest for an XT1254 Droid Turbo is your suggestion for @Computerfreak274's Rom -- if you want pure Motorola stock experience that's debloated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/development/computerfreekunlocked1-0-t3255945
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Aww all it has is 5.0.2? Wow thats unfortunate. And strange that motorola would do that.
I looked over at the computerfreak forum, there are no pictures, but it seems like he just took the bloat software out of stock xt1254 firmware. That means that all the annoying mesages when turning off data or turning on gps will still be there( and those ugly signal bars yechh). I just dont want to go through the flashing process for nothing.
Currently on and loving the look of CM12.1.
Also, how do i change the title? I couldnt find a button

Xeroman0 said:
Aww all it has is 5.0.2? Wow thats unfortunate. And strange that motorola would do that.
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Motorola gave 5.0.2 to the XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo in April 2015.
Motorola then gave 5.1 to the XT1254 in July 2015.
Motorola finally gave 5.0.2 to the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx in February/March 2016 .
Yes, a lesser version than they gave the XT1254, and almost a full year after the XT1225 got Lollipop 5.02. Very strange since the XT1250 and XT1254 are the same device. Any criticism Lenovo/Motorola has gotten over upgrades is fully deserved.
Of course anyone with an XT1250 could have flashed Lollipop via any of the custom ROMs we have. And by February 2016, even CM13 (Marshmallow) was available.
The only Quark owners dependent on Motorola are the XT1254 Verizon subscribers who insist on stock firmware due to VoLTE. Many XT1254 owners in this forum actually do not use Verizon (and the XT1225 would actually be better for them as most are on GSM-based carriers) and even many XT1254 Verizon subscribers think the custom ROMs offer more benefits that outweigh the current lack of VoLTE.
Xeroman0 said:
I looked over at the computerfreak forum, there are no pictures, but it seems like he just took the bloat software out of stock xt1254 firmware. That means that all the annoying mesages when turning off data or turning on gps will still be there( and those ugly signal bars yechh). I just dont want to go through the flashing process for nothing.
Currently on and loving the look of CM12.1.
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I don't know anything about annoying messages as I have never used CF's ROMs (I have three XT1225), but for signal bars you can probably install xposed/gravity box and change the look of the signal bars.
Xeroman0 said:
Also, how do i change the title? I couldnt find a button
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On a PC, when you hit edit, there's a button just below the box that says "advanced". If you hit advanced, then it shows all the fields including the title field. Can't remember if it also shows up in the XDA app on a mobile device, but it does on a PC when editing in a browser.

ChazzMatt said:
Motorola gave 5.0.2 to the XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo in April 2015.
Motorola then gave 5.1 to the XT1254 in July 2015.
Motorola finally gave 5.0.2 to the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx in February/March 2016 .
Yes, a lesser version than they gave the XT1254, and almost a full year after the XT1225 got Lollipop 5.02. Very strange since the XT1250 and XT1254 are the same device. Any criticism Lenovo/Motorola has gotten over upgrades is fully deserved.
Of course anyone with an XT1250 could have flashed Lollipop via any of the custom ROMs we have. And by February, even CM13 (Marshmallow) was available.
The only Quark owners dependent on Motorola are the XT1254 Verizon subscribers who insist on stock firmware due to VoLTE. Many XT1254 owners in this forum actually do not use Verizon (and the XT1225 would actually be better for them as most are on GSM-based carriers) and even many XT1254 Verizon subscribers think the custom ROMs offer more benefits that outweigh the current lack of VoLTE.
I don't know anything about annoying messages as I have never used CF's ROMs (I have three XT1225), but for signal bars you can probably install xposed/gravity box and change the look of the signal bars.
On a PC, when you hit edit, there's a button just below the box that says "advanced". If you hit advanced, then it shows all the fields including the title field. Can't remember if it also shows up in the XDA app on a mobile device, but it does on a PC when editing in a browser.
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thanks for your in-depth reply. ill try to flash CF's rom today, though ill flash the 1.2.6 version as people seem to be having trouble with the later ones
UPDATE: it seems that not only was my assumption about the CF rom right, but worse than i thought as the annoying messages now crash the ui as well.
so... how is 5.0.2 working on the 1250?
or- is there another way to get the REAL moto display working on CM?

Xeroman0 said:
thanks for your in-depth reply. ill try to flash CF's rom today, though ill flash the 1.2.6 version as people seem to be having trouble with the later ones
UPDATE: it seems that not only was my assumption about the CF rom right, but worse than i thought as the annoying messages now crash the ui as well.
so... how is 5.0.2 working on the 1250?
or- is there another way to get the REAL moto display working on CM?
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why don't you flash oficial CM 13 over your XT1250

siberian85 said:
why don't you flash oficial CM 13 over your XT1250
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Its not mm that i want. I want stock, but not the abomination the verizon made

Xeroman0 said:
Its not mm that i want. I want stock, but not the abomination the verizon made
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XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx 5.0.2 factory image
http://www.filefactory.com/folder/f9d1880e6c5b4800/?sort=created&order=DESC&show=50
Here's the only link I could find, but it's a slow download. You want the XT1250 5.0.2. Right now it's the top one on the list.

ChazzMatt said:
XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx 5.0.2 factory image
http://www.filefactory.com/folder/f9d1880e6c5b4800/?sort=created&order=DESC&show=50
Here's the only link I could find, but it's a slow download. You want the XT1250 5.0.2. Right now it's the top one on the list.
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Thanks. Is there a way to go about flashing it while keeping twrp?
Also since its stock i have to avoid something else since its a downgrade or something?
Can i even flash this using twrp?
I was thinking of flashing it then twrp. Would that work?
Or do i have to use adb etc?

Xeroman0 said:
Thanks. Is there a way to go about flashing it while keeping twrp?
Also since its stock i have to avoid something else since its a downgrade or something?
Can i even flash this using twrp?
I was thinking of flashing it then twrp. Would that work?
Or do i have to use adb etc?
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Hi sorry for bumping, I'm just really afraid of bricking my phone because of the potential bootloader change

Xeroman0 said:
Hi sorry for bumping, I'm just really afraid of bricking my phone because of the potential bootloader change
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You won't be able to flash the XT1250 factory image via TWRP. You already have Lollipop bootloader, but first try flashing without gpt.bin (keeping your Droid Turbo bootloader). If that works, then leave it alone.
I know people have flashed XT1254 Droid Turbo 5.1 stock over XT1250 back when they still only had 4.4.4 KitKat, and it worked.
Theoretically, this should work also, but you are technically downgrading from 5.1 to 5.0.2.
Now whether you can use the XT1250 radio or whether you have to re-flash the XT1254 radio afterwards, I don't know.
It's your decision, your phone.
Have a stock Droid Turbo 5.1 image to flash back in case something goes wrong and you need to go back.

Thanks! If i need mfastboot then ill try it when i have the time. Cheers!

@ChazzMatt
Ok so before i pull the trigger, i was hoping to confirm a few things to minimize the risk of brick:
1) i need to use mfastboot as opposed to plain fastboot
2) it DOES matter if i have the 32gb or 64gb droid turbo, and since i have 32gb it will *probably* be compatible
3) i should flash everything except radios, gpt and recovery if i want to make sure that everything will work and keep twrp
4) i currently have su4tl-49, unlocked and thats totally ok?
5) in the event the flash fails, i can just restore to the stock su4tl-49 version thats on here (the one without recovery)
6) i can follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/tutorial-how-to-flash-official-firmware-t3074724 (again, avoiding radio and recovery)
Thanks for all your help!

Xeroman0 said:
@ChazzMatt
Ok so before i pull the trigger, i was hoping to confirm a few things to minimize the risk of brick:
1) i need to use mfastboot as opposed to plain fastboot
2) it DOES matter if i have the 32gb or 64gb droid turbo, and since i have 32gb it will *probably* be compatible
3) i should flash everything except radios, gpt and recovery if i want to make sure that everything will work and keep twrp
4) i currently have su4tl-49, unlocked and thats totally ok?
5) in the event the flash fails, i can just restore to the stock su4tl-49 version thats on here (the one without recovery)
6) i can follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/tutorial-how-to-flash-official-firmware-t3074724 (again, avoiding radio and recovery)
Thanks for all your help!
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As far as I can see, yes.
Just make sure you flash ALL the "sparsechunks". I don't know how many the XT1250 image has, but the first time (when I flashed from Puerto Rico Moto Maxx XT1225 4.4.4 to Moto Turbo XT1225 5.0.2 stock image), I was going by the example in the guide which lists 8 "sparsechunks" -- but that's just an example. The image you are flashing may have more... Having never done it before, I thought "well, I just need to flash 8 of them"! Luckily, I had an unlocked bootloader so I was able to recover from my mistake.
Endless bootloop at start-up.
Booted backinto recovery and reflashed all the sparse chunks the next time.

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As far as I can see, yes.
Just make sure you flash ALL the "sparsechunks". I don't know how many the XT1250 image has, but the first time (when I flashed from Puerto Rico Moto Maxx XT1225 4.4.4 to Moto Turbo XT1225 5.0.2 stock image), I was going by the example in the guide which lists 8 "sparsechunks" -- but that's just an example. The image you are flashing may have more... Having never done it before, I thought well I just need to flash 8 of them! Luckily, I had an unlocked bootloader so I was able to recover from my mistake.
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How can i tell how many there are?

Xeroman0 said:
How can i tell how many there are?
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Yes, when you download the image. For instance the 5.0.2 Puerto Rico has only 7 sparsechunks.
{
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
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"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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This is the only copy I keep on my computer. But India 5.0.2 has more, like 9 or 10, which is why I messed up the first time only flashing 8.
Remember, I was going from Puerto Rico 4.4.4 to India 5.0.2. I didn't know how many sparsechunks Puerto Rico 4.4.4 had because it was already installed. And I didn't know I need to flash ALL of India because I had never done it before, and was going by the example in the guide. In retrospect, very silly of me to assume that, but there are so many weird things in flashing phones (for instance, LG G2 flashing has so many different rules from the LG Nexus 5, even though they have basically the same hardware) that only flashing 8 sparsechunks could have been the right thing to to. It wasn't -- but I only found out by making the mistake first.
If I didn't say it before, save off a TWRP backup image on your computer first.

moto z XT1650 engineering/developer edition on ebay

edit:
FireType, won the auction!
Now if anyone happens to know of some helpful developers...

Wow nice find! If someone gets a hold of this we def have potential to find a way to get a bootloader hack.

x000x said:
this isn't my auction but I just saw a Moto Z XT1650 engineering developer's edition on ebay. Would such a device possibly help in unlocking the bootloader?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/232184346157?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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Too bad I already updated to Nougat (no downgrading) I would have bought this phone for sure.
Thanks for sharing.

Maybe we could set up a pool if there's an expert willing to take a crack at it and interested in buying it. This might be the only shot at getting such a device. Still unsure if it would be helpful for people with retail versions of the Verizon moto z.

auction ended, did anyone from here actually bid on it? If not, this is probably the only time one of these would ever be made available

x000x said:
edit: well the auction ended... I wonder if whomever got it actually visits this forum
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Won it.

FireType said:
Won it.
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Great! Just out of curiosity, are you a dev?

rczrider said:
Great! Just out of curiosity, are you a dev?
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No, I'm not a developer. But I believe that this device is a simple version of Z with an unlocked bootloader. The rear panel has a "moto" logo, while Verizon devices has "droid" logo
as soon as I get it I'll write about it here

Wow! I'm shocked someone from here won it. I thought for sure it would have gone to some unknown person and we'd never see another one like it.

x000x said:
Wow! I'm shocked someone from here won it. I thought for sure it would have gone to some unknown person and we'd never see another one like it.
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What's the diff between that developer edition and global bootloader unlocked edition? Can you downgrade the bl on the developer devices?
Sent from my Motorola Moto Z Droid using XDA Labs

I'm really not sure what value this has in terms of root and (unofficially) unlocking bootloaders. I feel like it's just the device that's released to select developers prior to the official, public release. Even if there's something substantially different about it - in terms of software - that would give insight into unlocking, it's not much use unless it's in the hands of an experienced dev.
Interested in learning more nonetheless, though.

yes, the next step would be to find an experienced dev that might could offer some guidance

x000x said:
yes, the next step would be to find an experienced dev that might could offer some guidance
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I suppose it's possible it could be a situation similar to the one @elliwigy describes here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70407652&postcount=438
Short version: debug firmware from special pre-release phone + Dirty Cow exploit + experienced dev = unlocked bootloader and root for phone with virtually unlockable bootloader
I believe @elliwigy used to be a dev for Moto devices before moving to LG. They might be able to provide some guidance in determining the value of this "engineering" edition phone and its firmware. With the exception of tagging them in this post (twice ), I don't want to bug them too much since they likely can't do much without the phone itself.

FireType said:
No, I'm not a developer. But I believe that this device is a simple version of Z with an unlocked bootloader. The rear panel has a "moto" logo, while Verizon devices has "droid" logo
as soon as I get it I'll write about it here
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I'm curious, any updates?

x000x said:
I'm curious, any updates?
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another 1 week please =) im from Russia. Our POST is......................

Hello friends, I have the bike z 1560-03 but this team has the August 2016 follow-up that requirements (other than unlocked booloader) should I have? Can I install any firmware?
My computer is 64 gb dual sim.
Thank you.

Got it!
1) 3 GB RAM =)) LOL
2) Power Button is located above the volume buttons (another LOL)
3) Android 6.0.1 very buggy
4) Moto MOD connector have different hole in the middle. mods installation is impossible
5) No fingerprint scanner (it is not real)
6) Bootloader:
AP Fastboot Flash Mode (Not Secure)
BL: 90.02(*) (sha-2884c1d, 2016-03-16 16:41:30)
Baseband: M8996_1000.21.01.53p SHERIDAN_VZW_CUST
Product/Variant: Sheridan XT1650-01 32GB P1A
Serial Number: (it does not matter)
CPU: MSM8996
UFS: 32GB TOSHIBA THGLF2G8J4LBATR FV=0101
DRAM: 3GB SKHYNIX LP4 DIE=6Gb M5=06 M6=03 M7=00 M8=04
Console [NULL]: null
Battery OK
engineering
Software status: Modified

Could a dev/hacker find a way to unlock all bootlader using this prototype?

xterminater07 said:
Could a dev/hacker find a way to unlock all bootlader using this prototype?
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I wouldn't count on it, if for no other reason than we don't have any seasoned devs interested in the Moto Z (as far as I can tell, anyway). So even if there was a dev interested in helping us out (without the actual phone), they likely would never even see this thread. Maybe @erfanoabdi can weigh in, but I think they've given up on rooting the VZW variant (and I don't think they were ever working on a bootloader unlock).
Interesting that it's a Verizon (XT1650-01) prototype, though. I still haven't updated my VZW variant to Nougat in hopes of root, but I think at this point it's a lost cause (which I assumed to be the case when I opted for the VZW variant in the first place). I suppose it's always possible this phone could be used in conjunction with DirtyCow to come up with something, but that would only work for folks still on Marshmallow.

My Moto Z is dead since 3 weeks now. It won't boot/charge. Even the PC doesn't recognize it. Pleas help me unbrick it if you find a way.

Is this a new software Update ?

Hi..I am not a newbie to XDA, but new to Moto turbo forums. I was out of station for a couple of days and left my phone with my cousin. After coming and seeing the phone, i noticed that the kernel, build version and minor things are changed and even can see a new option System tuning in settings which I havent seen before. Is this a official software update from motorola ? The best thing is I can see an option in developer options showing "OEM unlocking". So can I unlock bootloader and install custom roms without effecting my warranty? In brief, I want to know 2 things.
1. IS this a official software update from motorola (Owned by Lenovo ) bcus i see a weird name in kernel..
2. Can I flash custom roms with the OEM unlocking option without sending a request to motorola thus voiding my warranty?
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Hi..I am not a newbie to XDA, but new to Moto turbo forums. I was out of station for a couple of days and left my phone with my cousin. After coming and seeing the phone, i noticed that the kernel, build version and minor things are changed and even can see a new option System tuning in settings which I havent seen before. Is this a official software update from motorola ? The best thing is I can see an option in developer options showing "OEM unlocking". So can I unlock bootloader and install custom roms without effecting my warranty? In brief, I want to know 2 things.
1. IS this a official software update from motorola (Owned by Lenovo ) bcus i see a weird name in kernel..
2. Can I flash custom roms with the OEM unlocking option without sending a request to motorola thus voiding my warranty?
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First, I gladly voided warranty on two of my three XT1225 to unlock the bootloader. Depending on when you bought the phone, you may not have a warranty anymore anyway.
Second, OEM unlocking has been there since Lollipop. (< see link) It's also there in stock Motorola Lollipop for the XT1225, which was released in March 2015. The Moto Turbo LAUNCHED with Lollipop 5.0.2 in India in March 2015 -- whereas the other XT1225 (Moto Maxx) launched with Kitkat months earlier. But the Moto Turbo has had this OEM unlock from the very beginning when launched in India. It's not new and doesn't do a thing unless you also get code from Motorola and follow this guide:
UPDATED GUIDE: How to unlock your MOTO MAXX/MOTO TURBO bootloader/install TWRP/root
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/general/guide-how-to-unlock-moto-maxx-moto-t3455341
I really don't see anything new here. Your kernel is from May 2016, and is the kernel included in the July 2016 Motorola Marshmallow 6.0.1 release for the XT1225.
Did you not ever upgrade to Marshmallow before now or did you never unlock your Developer Options?
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Furthermore, your release number in your screenshot matches exactly the Marshmallow Moto Turbo release from July 2016.
All Quark firmware ever released:
Yes, that's the official kernel name, it's from Motorola. Here's stock Moto Turbo 5.0.2 kernel signed the same way ("husdsoncm"):
Here's also screenshots of stock Moto E and Moto G kernels signed the same way:

ChazzMatt said:
First, I gladly voided warranty on two of my three XT1225 to unlock the bootloader. Depending on when you bought the phone, you may not have a warranty anymore anyway.
Second, OEM unlocking has been there since Lollipop. (< see link) It's also there in stock Motorola Lollipop for the XT1225, which was released in March 2015. It's not new and doesn't do a thing unless you also get code from Motorola and follow this guide:
UPDATED GUIDE: How to unlock your MOTO MAXX/MOTO TURBO bootloader/install TWRP/root
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/general/guide-how-to-unlock-moto-maxx-moto-t3455341
I really don't see anything new here. Your kernel is from May 2016, and is the kernel included in the July 2016 Motorola Marshmallow 6.0.1 release for the XT1225.
Did you not ever upgrade to Marshmallow before now or did you never unlock your Developer Options?
Furthermore, your release number in your screenshot matches exactly the Marshmallow Moto Turbo release from July 2016.
All Quark firmware ever released:
Yes, that's the official kernel name, it's from Motorola. Here's stock Moto Turbo 5.0.2 kernel signed the same way ("husdsoncm"):
Here's also screenshots of stock Moto E and Moto G kernels signed the same way:
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Thank you a lot for clarifying me in detail. Thanks a lot. May be I haven't noticed this before as I am using this phone as a second backup phone. And I have enabled OEM unlocking option in developer options and asked me to hit confirm to enable. I did and the toggle button enabled. Now Should I really need to contact motorola for the Bootloader unlock key or is there someother way to unlock bootloader? I dont want to ruin my warranty as its just 2 months old phone.

krishna13 said:
I have enabled OEM unlocking option in developer options and asked me to hit confirm to enable. I did and the toggle button enabled.
Now Should I really need to contact motorola for the Bootloader unlock key or is there someother way to unlock bootloader? I dont want to ruin my warranty as its just 2 months old phone.
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Yes, for our Motorola phones enabling that OEM Unlock feature is only the first step. The next step is to get the free code from Motorola.
Before Lollipop added that feature, we just got the code from Motorola. Now you have to do both -- enable that feature and request the code.
Over on the Droid Turbo XT1254 Quark variant, they have to use Sunshine to unlock their bootloaders, but 1) it doesn't work on Marshmallow and 2) only works for specific versions of Verizon Lollipop firmware. It was not designed for the free bootloader unlock of the other Quarks, the XT1225 or XT1250.

How to request Motorola for unlock code?

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How to request Motorola for unlock code?
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Somebody wrote an extensive guide that answers all those questions! And people have asked questions in there, that also may answer other questions you have specifically about all that.
UPDATED GUIDE: How to unlock your MOTO MAXX/MOTO TURBO bootloader/install TWRP/root
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/general/guide-how-to-unlock-moto-maxx-moto-t3455341
But basically you go the website address listed in the guide, sign up with Motorola, acknowledge you understand what you are doing, blah, blah, blah, and they email you a code. You have to give them information about your phone. Once you go to the Motorola website it's explained thoroughly.
Go to that guide and start reading.