moto z XT1650 engineering/developer edition on ebay - Moto Z Guides, News, & Discussion

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FireType, won the auction!
Now if anyone happens to know of some helpful developers...

Wow nice find! If someone gets a hold of this we def have potential to find a way to get a bootloader hack.

x000x said:
this isn't my auction but I just saw a Moto Z XT1650 engineering developer's edition on ebay. Would such a device possibly help in unlocking the bootloader?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/232184346157?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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Too bad I already updated to Nougat (no downgrading) I would have bought this phone for sure.
Thanks for sharing.

Maybe we could set up a pool if there's an expert willing to take a crack at it and interested in buying it. This might be the only shot at getting such a device. Still unsure if it would be helpful for people with retail versions of the Verizon moto z.

auction ended, did anyone from here actually bid on it? If not, this is probably the only time one of these would ever be made available

x000x said:
edit: well the auction ended... I wonder if whomever got it actually visits this forum
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Won it.

FireType said:
Won it.
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Great! Just out of curiosity, are you a dev?

rczrider said:
Great! Just out of curiosity, are you a dev?
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No, I'm not a developer. But I believe that this device is a simple version of Z with an unlocked bootloader. The rear panel has a "moto" logo, while Verizon devices has "droid" logo
as soon as I get it I'll write about it here

Wow! I'm shocked someone from here won it. I thought for sure it would have gone to some unknown person and we'd never see another one like it.

x000x said:
Wow! I'm shocked someone from here won it. I thought for sure it would have gone to some unknown person and we'd never see another one like it.
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What's the diff between that developer edition and global bootloader unlocked edition? Can you downgrade the bl on the developer devices?
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I'm really not sure what value this has in terms of root and (unofficially) unlocking bootloaders. I feel like it's just the device that's released to select developers prior to the official, public release. Even if there's something substantially different about it - in terms of software - that would give insight into unlocking, it's not much use unless it's in the hands of an experienced dev.
Interested in learning more nonetheless, though.

yes, the next step would be to find an experienced dev that might could offer some guidance

x000x said:
yes, the next step would be to find an experienced dev that might could offer some guidance
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I suppose it's possible it could be a situation similar to the one @elliwigy describes here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70407652&postcount=438
Short version: debug firmware from special pre-release phone + Dirty Cow exploit + experienced dev = unlocked bootloader and root for phone with virtually unlockable bootloader
I believe @elliwigy used to be a dev for Moto devices before moving to LG. They might be able to provide some guidance in determining the value of this "engineering" edition phone and its firmware. With the exception of tagging them in this post (twice ), I don't want to bug them too much since they likely can't do much without the phone itself.

FireType said:
No, I'm not a developer. But I believe that this device is a simple version of Z with an unlocked bootloader. The rear panel has a "moto" logo, while Verizon devices has "droid" logo
as soon as I get it I'll write about it here
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I'm curious, any updates?

x000x said:
I'm curious, any updates?
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another 1 week please =) im from Russia. Our POST is......................

Hello friends, I have the bike z 1560-03 but this team has the August 2016 follow-up that requirements (other than unlocked booloader) should I have? Can I install any firmware?
My computer is 64 gb dual sim.
Thank you.

Got it!
1) 3 GB RAM =)) LOL
2) Power Button is located above the volume buttons (another LOL)
3) Android 6.0.1 very buggy
4) Moto MOD connector have different hole in the middle. mods installation is impossible
5) No fingerprint scanner (it is not real)
6) Bootloader:
AP Fastboot Flash Mode (Not Secure)
BL: 90.02(*) (sha-2884c1d, 2016-03-16 16:41:30)
Baseband: M8996_1000.21.01.53p SHERIDAN_VZW_CUST
Product/Variant: Sheridan XT1650-01 32GB P1A
Serial Number: (it does not matter)
CPU: MSM8996
UFS: 32GB TOSHIBA THGLF2G8J4LBATR FV=0101
DRAM: 3GB SKHYNIX LP4 DIE=6Gb M5=06 M6=03 M7=00 M8=04
Console [NULL]: null
Battery OK
engineering
Software status: Modified

Could a dev/hacker find a way to unlock all bootlader using this prototype?

xterminater07 said:
Could a dev/hacker find a way to unlock all bootlader using this prototype?
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I wouldn't count on it, if for no other reason than we don't have any seasoned devs interested in the Moto Z (as far as I can tell, anyway). So even if there was a dev interested in helping us out (without the actual phone), they likely would never even see this thread. Maybe @erfanoabdi can weigh in, but I think they've given up on rooting the VZW variant (and I don't think they were ever working on a bootloader unlock).
Interesting that it's a Verizon (XT1650-01) prototype, though. I still haven't updated my VZW variant to Nougat in hopes of root, but I think at this point it's a lost cause (which I assumed to be the case when I opted for the VZW variant in the first place). I suppose it's always possible this phone could be used in conjunction with DirtyCow to come up with something, but that would only work for folks still on Marshmallow.

My Moto Z is dead since 3 weeks now. It won't boot/charge. Even the PC doesn't recognize it. Pleas help me unbrick it if you find a way.

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was there ever a free bootloader unlock or only sunshine?

I like my droid mini so much I went out and got another.
To my good fortune, I discovered this "new" one has SU4.21 !!!
That means the efuse has not been blown and I could bootloader unlock.
The question is, was there ever a free method or is sunshine the only way?
Dreaming of cyanogenmod and twrp on the mini, would be perfect.
aha, motopocalypse by the original researcher Dan Rosenberg
http://vulnfactory.org/blog/2013/04/08/motorola-bootloader-unlocking/
Droid Mini/Maxx is not listed but there is always a tiny chance it will work.
Well NOW there's a free bootloader unlock
http://bits-please.blogspot.com/2016/02/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html
https://github.com/laginimaineb/Alohamora
Now to wait for someone who knows what they are doing to see if it will work on the mini/maxx/ultra
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Well NOW there's a free bootloader unlock
http://bits-please.blogspot.com/2016/02/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html
https://github.com/laginimaineb/Alohamora
Now to wait for someone who knows what they are doing to see if it will work on the mini/maxx/ultra
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No, there isn't. Just like the other 10 motorola device forums you posted this in, this vulnerability is for MSM8974 ONLY, and its not new.
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beaups said:
this vulnerability is for MSM8974 ONLY, and its not new.
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very sorry for the posts, I was excited and genuinely thought this was a new cross-motorola exploit and didn't realize the specifics
8960 is different enough from the 8974 to be immune?
again my apologies
ps. the Droid Razr series was also 8960, how come motopocalype doesn't work on the mini/maxx ?
_ck_ said:
I like my droid mini so much I went out and got another.
To my good fortune, I discovered this "new" one has SU4.21 !!!
That means the efuse has not been blown and I could bootloader unlock.
The question is, was there ever a free method or is sunshine the only way?
Dreaming of cyanogenmod and twrp on the mini, would be perfect.
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If your phone is eligible, Sunshine is a cheap way to unlock your Bootloader. $25.00 last time I checked
_ck_ said:
very sorry for the posts, I was excited and genuinely thought this was a new cross-motorola exploit and didn't realize the specifics
8960 is different enough from the 8974 to be immune?
again my apologies
ps. the Droid Razr series was also 8960, how come motopocalype doesn't work on the mini/maxx ?
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No worries. I haven't looked into Razr much, but typically these vulnerabilities are quickly patched by Motorola. I would guess that device released after motopocalypse was released or was patched shortly after.
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beaups said:
No worries. I haven't looked into Razr much, but typically these vulnerabilities are quickly patched by Motorola.
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very exciting update
I've been told (very reliably) that a new exploit is on the way and will work on the 8960 pro (ie. mini/maxx/ultra)
unclear if it still requires the SU4 rom from June 2014 vs will work on the newer SU6 patched rom (even sunshine will not work on SU6) but it was verified by directly examining aboot and that the trustzone is only slightly different on the 8960pro vs 8974
(this time I won't post it in a dozen places - I suspect the release will pretty much spread like wildfire on its own)
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very exciting update
I've been told (very reliably) that a new exploit is on the way and will work on the 8960 pro (ie. mini/maxx/ultra)
unclear if it still requires the SU4 rom from June 2014 vs will work on the newer SU6 patched rom (even sunshine will not work on SU6) but it was verified by directly examining aboot and that the trustzone is only slightly different on the 8960pro vs 8974
(this time I won't post it in a dozen places - I suspect the release will pretty much spread like wildfire on its own)
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I'd like more info on this
leerpsp said:
I'd like more info on this
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I would too but it's not out yet.
If I had to guess I'd suspect he is doing the proper notifications first to Motorola before releasing it. In which case as long as we don't accept OTA updates we should be okay.
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I would too but it's not out yet.
If I had to guess I'd suspect he is doing the proper notifications first to Motorola before releasing it. In which case as long as we don't accept OTA updates we should be okay.
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Will for one your not well informed Motorola is not sending down any more OTA updates for us they told us they were not they left us dead in the water and stuck on 4.4.4. Also you don't have to contact Motorola about bootloader unlocks don't know who told you that and who would take the time all its doing is allowing us to install user made/custom roms and android is open source so its legal.
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Will for one your not well informed Motorola is not sending down any more OTA updates for us they told us they were not they left us dead in the water and stuck on 4.4.4. Also you don't have to contact Motorola about bootloader unlocks don't know who told you that and who would take the time all its doing is allowing us to install user made/custom roms and android is open source so its legal.
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1. there are plenty of minor updates from SU4 to SU6 that were OTA and it stayed 4.4.4, they are just patches and there could easily be one that makes it SU6-7.4 - are you misunderstanding me that I am saying they are doing something more? What I meant was, if there is a a SU6-7.4 do NOT install it - though we can still always roll back to SU6-7(.0) via RSDlite - the nightmare would be a SU7 that prevents rollback to SU6
2. I assure you there is another bl unlock coming, this is completely confirmed.
I just don't know exactly when he is releasing it and I don't want to pester him - he's already proven he knows darn well what he is doing and is fully capable of producing the unlock and has already done so for other models - the catch is the unlock is not going to be phone specific so someone is going to have to package it for us
You've got me curious now. I haven't seen anyone else release a bootloader unlock in years.
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beaups said:
You've got me curious now. I haven't seen anyone else release a bootloader unlock in years.
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Oh you know who it is, he just did the other one.
He assures me this one will work on far more devices and even inspected the aboot on the droid mini for me - exact quote:
the TrustZone code there is slightly different, but it has a variation on the vulnerability I'm releasing and so it should work more-or-less out of the box
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You'll need to change the symbols to match your version, but that's pretty much it.
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so I'm going to shutup now because we need to leave him alone on his own timetable - I have to assume he is doing disclosures to motorola first, hence the delay
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Oh you know who it is, he just did the other one.
He assures me this one will work on far more devices and even inspected the aboot on the droid mini for me - exact quote:
so I'm going to shutup now because we need to leave him alone on his own timetable - I have to assume he is doing disclosures to motorola first, hence the delay
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He didn't release a bootloader unlock for "the other one" either. In fact, the POC he did release required an unlocked bootloader, and custom kernel.
beaups said:
He didn't release a bootloader unlock for "the other one" either. In fact, the POC he did release required an unlocked bootloader, and custom kernel.
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I'm not sure what you mean. Motorola sent him a bootloader locked X and he unlocked it. He even shows every step and released the source.
Unless I am completely missing something.
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I'm not sure what you mean. Motorola sent him a bootloader locked X and he unlocked it. He even shows every step and released the source.
Unless I am completely missing something.
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He (re)documented the vulnerability and documented a full exploitation technique(and did a great job). However the code he released can not be used to unlock a production device. The code requires an unlocked bootloader and a custom kernel. If you read the comments on his disclosure page, you will see that.
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The code requires an unlocked bootloader and a custom kernel.
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that sounds really weird though, why would you bl unlock an already bl unlocked device?
anyway, all we can do is wait and see what he does - he has no reason to lie, it's not like he is making money off it
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that sounds really weird though, why would you bl unlock an already bl unlocked device?
anyway, all we can do is wait and see what he does - he has no reason to lie, it's not like he is making money off it
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I'm not implying he's lying it all. The vulnerability he documented is certainly legitimate. I'm just stating you might not get some "clickheretounlock.exe". Somebody might have to do some work to code/package/turn the vulnerability into working unlock solution. Or maybe he will do it.
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Somebody might have to do some work to code/package/turn the vulnerability into working unlock solution. Or maybe he will do it.
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oh I get that distinct feeling that he does not intend to release an actual executable, for reasons unclear, either legal or less responsibility
but I suspect he is going to lay out the steps pretty clearly and likely some source code and there is enough talent and desire around here to make it happen shortly after that

Likelihood we will really see root poll

I'm just wondering I jumped conclusions on this device originally and made a hasty rant about the phone in aggravation over the locked BL.. Which was my fault .
I have since second guessed that and repurchased a 2nd s7 it's a truly great phone really believe that .
I'm only here to get real opinions on the likelihood we will get what we want which is A method to unlock bootloader what's everyone's honest thoughts that it either likely will or won't happen even at this point .Any reputable sources anywhere showing progress besides the petition?
I read an article that the phone can be rooted under developer settings "oem unlock" then Odin the .tar file for US version....
Found it on PhoneArena.com
Don't know how legit it is
mikesincredible said:
I read an article that the phone can be rooted under developer settings "oem unlock" then Odin the .tar file for US version....
Found it on PhoneArena.com
Don't know how legit it is
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I'm talking about rooting the U.S version not the international I know that can be rooted already.
Is that what your referring to .
mikesincredible said:
I read an article that the phone can be rooted under developer settings "oem unlock" then Odin the .tar file for US version....
Found it on PhoneArena.com
Don't know how legit it is
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How does Odin a stock tar root ?
What script method are you referring to?
I kind of meant and was talking about rooting the tmobile variant.
Got a Link to that phone arena article
T-Mobile is supposed to be working with Samsung to unlock the bootloader if you look at John's tweet about it. I don't know how far that'll go or how much they care, though.
Fortunately, if you look through the replies, T-Mobile's official account replied on the 21st
@riclee19 @JohnLegere This is something we are looking into for your family, and many others. We hope to have an update soon. *AshleyH
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So maybe there is hope.
codabrink said:
T-Mobile is supposed to be working with Samsung to unlock the bootloader if you look at John's tweet about it. I don't know how far that'll go or how much they care, though.
Fortunately, if you look through the replies, T-Mobile's official account replied on the 21st
So maybe there is hope.
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My idea Is that this s7 Bootloader issue thats so important to the root community and actually myself which we happen to be a small fraction of the over all consumer base.... is likely considered minor and extra headache in the big scheme of things to Samsung.. they figure the loss of loosing root community consumers is a future gain to not have to deal with us down the road .
Anything is possible with getting a tool or method to unlock but these tweets aren't implying much at this point ..another words the feedback and progress is who knows .
One recognized developer mentioned that if we do get it will likely be the end of the course run for this device by the time it arrives.
androidddaaron said:
How does Odin a stock tar root ?
What script method are you referring to?
I kind of meant and was talking about rooting the tmobile variant.
Got a Link to that phone arena article
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Yea let me see if I can find it..it mentioned US version was all
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Oh yeah it is international, just shows what to do to access the unlock portion
http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-to-root-the-Samsung-Galaxy-S7-and-S7-edge-Exynos_id79321

Calling all mini owners

Calling all mini owners, donate to tdm, found a mini for $100 and sent him the info for it.
He has been working very hard to bring us root, now let's bring him a Dev phone!
Unlocking, root and custom ROM will come a lot faster if we get a device permanently in his hands.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4126377
It is so nice to see that the community cares more about serving the consumer than the actual company does. ?
Well, i'd like to donate, but how?
fallen00sniper said:
Calling all mini owners, donate to tdm, found a mini for $100 and sent him the info for it.
He has been working very hard to bring us root, now let's bring him a Dev phone!
Unlocking, root and custom ROM will come a lot faster if we get a device permanently in his hands.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4126377
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JoeGatto said:
It is so nice to see that the community cares more about serving the consumer than the actual company does.
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I know right
Muggx said:
Well, i'd like to donate, but how?
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I guess you would have to pm him to ask how you can donate to him, I thought he had a link up for donations.
I'd take the donations and buy the phone for him since I live closer to the seller, but I don't know if he got the PM I sent him about it and bought it or not yet.
He's gotten the device, use the link in the op to ask how you can donate to tdm and offset the cost, he plans on releasing custom roms soon.
Very exciting time to be a mini owner.
I'm excited and can't wait! I'm coming from a Nexus 5 and Nexus 5x those have very good development support, I can't wait to start flashing ROMs and kernels on this mini!
Hey @fallen00sniper hope you don't mind me hijacking this thread, but I wanted a place to update everyone on progress and I didn't want to start a new thread.
Current status as of Oct 3 2017
Unlock
Unofficial unlock tool has been released.
Waiting for official ZTE unlock.
TWRP
Alpha version posted in unlock thread. This uses the binary kernel and init from stock (including enforcing selinux) and does not have decrypt support, so it is not optimal.
Working on a full source build and eventual official TWRP builds.
Custom ROMs
I have just now successfully booted the device with a source built kernel based on the ZTE provided sources. I'm starting on Lineage 14.1 support. This will probably take at least a week or two.
Once Lineage 14.1 is working reasonably well, I will also do an AOKP build since that is my preferred ROM. I can help community members with other ROMs, but I won't maintain them myself.
Other
Collecting information on regional variants.
@saymonek has a single-SIM UK/Europe version that is reportedly stuck on 6.0. Are there any more variants?
@tdm, completely fine by me.
while you are in the rom getting them up and running, check into why the touch screen sucks at positional tapping, mine isn't 100% accurate lol
Did a bit of research on variants by trolling through ZTE support. So far I've found:
* USA version.
* UK Carphone Warehouse version.
* International "open market" version (eg. Austria).
* Hong Kong version.
First build done:
Package Complete: /home/tdm/out/laos-14.1/target/product/tulip/lineage-14.1-20171003-UNOFFICIAL-tulip.zip
This is going to need a fair amount of work before it boots and runs, but ... progress!
Oh also FYI... I've been cribbing from the HTC One A9 (hiae) device for Lineage builds. haie is maintained by intervigil, who I had the pleasure to work with at cyngn. I'd say he is one of the top four or five device people in the custom ROM world. And it looks like he has been actively working on Lineage 15.0 so we should get that soon after nightly builds start.
It's so exciting to see device development take off!
Just a quick update...
I had a ... uh ... "server malfunction" yesterday so didn't get a chance to do much. However, I'm back in business today.
So far today I've got linage to start the boot animation. Should be able to get all the way to the home screen tomorrow.
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First build done:
Package Complete: /home/tdm/out/laos-14.1/target/product/tulip/lineage-14.1-20171003-UNOFFICIAL-tulip.zip
This is going to need a fair amount of work before it boots and runs, but ... progress!
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Hello, can I change my axon 7 mini back to the US variant? It was originally US variant, I mistakenly switched US band in the engineering menu and Iost network services. I managed to get it working with the European firmware from ZTE Russia. Would like to revert to the US variant. I noticed in the bootloader version, the US version is P852A12 whilst the European variant is P852A11. Any luck on reverting to US variant?
Can you not access the engineering menu and switch back?
If not, my suggestion would be to use QPST and/or QXDM. These are proprietary tools but you can find them for download. They will allow you to program the frequency bands that your phone uses.
Good luck.
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Hello, can I change my axon 7 mini back to the US variant? It was originally US variant, I mistakenly switched US band in the engineering menu and Iost network services. I managed to get it working with the European firmware from ZTE Russia. Would like to revert to the US variant. I noticed in the bootloader version, the US version is P852A12 whilst the European variant is P852A11. Any luck on reverting to US variant?
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tdm said:
Can you not access the engineering menu and switch back?
If not, my suggestion would be to use QPST and/or QXDM. These are proprietary tools but you can find them for download. They will allow you to program the frequency bands that your phone uses.
Good luck.
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I can access the engineering menu. The device is working but would have loved to switched back to US variant because it's a US variant initially but I am unable to install the US firmware I downloaded from ZTE US Support site
I'm sure we can get you back on US firmware.
What is the error when you try to flash the ZTE package?
djeniuss said:
I can access the engineering menu. The device is working but would have loved to switched back to US variant because it's a US variant initially but I am unable to install the US firmware I downloaded from ZTE US Support site
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tdm said:
I'm sure we can get you back on US firmware.
What is the error when you try to flash the ZTE package?
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Error Target machine P852A12 not found. I noticed my device bootloader has changed to P852A11 - Tulip. I checked my friend's Device which we bought at the same time from best buy in US, his own is still P852A12
Ain't it beautiful?
It's alive
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Ain't it beautiful?
It's alive
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:victory:
I am considering not even worrying about the warranty lol
Big questions are, everything working?, can you return to stock?, and how does the performance of the rom feel?

One Heck of a Phone !!!! AMAZING

This is one heck of a phone. loving it more everyday. Dear Developers, please create some roms for Realme 1.
Premkrishna said:
This is one heck of a phone. loving it more everyday. Dear Developers, please create some roms for Realme 1.
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Not possible to unlock bootloader, so how come Roms are available?
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Not possible to unlock bootloader, so how come Roms are available?
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Correct.
Wrong thread. If it gets unlockable bootloader maybe Treble might help with the roms.
You shouldn't have bought a mediatek phone in the first place with the ideas of being a power user.
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Wrong thread. If it gets unlockable bootloader maybe Treble might help with the roms.
You shouldn't have bought a mediatek phone in the first place with the ideas of being a power user.
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Correct...:fingers-crossed:
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Superblazer said:
Wrong thread. If it gets unlockable bootloader maybe Treble might help with the roms.
You shouldn't have bought a mediatek phone in the first place with the ideas of being a power user.
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are you a power user? I mean do you root your devices?
Should I buy this phone because I prefer rooting devices and flashing ROMs when the OEM updates cease to exist or when the phones becomes bogged down by the useless and sometimes harmful OEM services running in the background.
What do you suggest? Should One buy this phone if needs to have an option to be able to root the device (which requires unlockable bootloader and the company Mediatek to release kernel sources which is technically legally requires as per GPL licence.
I HATE MEDIATEK for this that they do not release kernel source codes and the mail responses on the other thread indicates that THEY ARE STUPID too.
HannibalLecter said:
are you a power user? I mean do you root your devices?
Should I buy this phone because I prefer rooting devices and flashing ROMs when the OEM updates cease to exist or when the phones becomes bogged down by the useless and sometimes harmful OEM services running in the background.
What do you suggest? Should One buy this phone if needs to have an option to be able to root the device (which requires unlockable bootloader and the company Mediatek to release kernel sources which is technically legally requires as per GPL licence.
I HATE MEDIATEK for this that they do not release kernel source codes and the mail responses on the other thread indicates that THEY ARE STUPID too.
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This phone is from oppo, it will probably never receive an unlockable bootloader. Just ignore any phone with mediatek processor no matter what they say they offer.
Any phone with mtk chipset are terrible, just that this phone offers good enough value for the price you would have to pay. The gpu is crap just like on every other phone with mediatek chipset, the phone has a version of colour os as the software, and they say that they would provide android P as an update, which I really don't see it coming anytime in the next year.
Superblazer said:
This phone is from oppo, it will probably never receive an unlockable bootloader. Just ignore any phone with mediatek processor no matter what they say they offer.
Any phone with mtk chipset are terrible, just that this phone offers good enough value for the price you would have to pay. The gpu is crap just like on every other phone with mediatek chipset, the phone has a version of colour os as the software, and they say that they would provide android P as an update, which I really don't see it coming anytime in the next year.
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thanks for confirming the notion I had.
Mediatek was, is and will continue to be useless.
I will NEVER purchase any Mediatek device EVER.
asdf2020 said:
Not possible to unlock bootloader, so how come Roms are available?
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But xda site says bootloader is unlockable ?
https://www.xda-developers.com/oppo-realme-1-forum-is-now-open/

How do I root a Samsung Galaxy S7 Verizon (SM-G930V) Android Oreo 8.0?

How do I do it
I got the same exact one 3 days ago. It's on 8.0.0 now. I have been reading a lot to find answers how to root or install twrp. It looks like there is not a straight forward answer. Just development guides that are not so clear on if there is are for sure way to root or unlock bootloader.
Everything looks to lead me to the same answer. Snapdragon us variants like ours are bootloader blocked so no twrp. Can we use safestrap? What can we do to root and install custom? Even if it's it's a touchwiz. I have an s4 I'm also playing with. I wish my s7 could do what the the s4 does. But samsung us trying to let carriers like Verizon block our bootloaders Hendering our abilities to use the phones like we want. It sucks.
I hope for a method soon myself. I hope that someone can steer us the right way.
8996?
Scottie32583 said:
I got the same exact one 3 days ago. It's on 8.0.0 now. I have been reading a lot to find answers how to root or install twrp. It looks like there is not a straight forward answer. Just development guides that are not so clear on if there is are for sure way to root or unlock bootloader.
Everything looks to lead me to the same answer. Snapdragon us variants like ours are bootloader blocked so no twrp. Can we use safestrap? What can we do to root and install custom? Even if it's it's a touchwiz. I have an s4 I'm also playing with. I wish my s7 could do what the the s4 does. But samsung us trying to let carriers like Verizon block our bootloaders Hendering our abilities to use the phones like we want. It sucks.
I hope for a method soon myself. I hope that someone can steer us the right way.
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You echo my Frustrations. It feels good not to be the only one thinking these things. I think the reason there aren't any straightforward answers is because people are afraid of being sued. Why stop there? It begins with the owner of the phone who wants to root in the first place. They should sue themselves.
it doesn't seem logical to me. If I'm driving and, God forbid, I kill someone with my car do the people that taught me to drive get sued? it isn't an exactly perfect Analogy, but it's enough to start discussion, anywhere but here on this thread. LOL
Another thing is that phones are already very customized in that there are so many of them and they all function so differently even with the same ROM on a different provider Network does different things. it's probably difficult to give you the exact perfect set of instructions for your specific phone. Therefore knowing about Android and Linux and stuff is very helpful for filling in the gaps I will inevitably have. I have no such training and the times I have delved into it I"ve become completely lost.
A rudimentary understanding I do have. So I choose settings with the mindset of increasing the device lifespan, but nothing monumental.
Cruel_Carlos said:
You echo my Frustrations. It feels good not to be the only one thinking these things. I think the reason there aren't any straightforward answers is because people are afraid of being sued. Why stop there? It begins with the owner of the phone who wants to root in the first place. They should sue themselves.
it doesn't seem logical to me. If I'm driving and, God forbid, I kill someone with my car do the people that taught me to drive get sued? it isn't an exactly perfect Analogy, but it's enough to start discussion, anywhere but here on this thread. LOL
Another thing is that phones are already very customized in that there are so many of them and they all function so differently even with the same ROM on a different provider Network does different things. it's probably difficult to give you the exact perfect set of instructions for your specific phone. Therefore knowing about Android and Linux and stuff is very helpful for filling in the gaps I will inevitably have. I have no such training and the times I have delved into it I"ve become completely lost.
A rudimentary understanding I do have. So I choose settings with the mindset of increasing the device lifespan, but nothing monumental.
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What firmware version do you have on your device?
cooltt said:
What firmware version do you have on your device?
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Sammy S7- Oreo 8.0.0-0016- API 26- arm-64v8a- Qualcomm 822 (I think) boot loader RS8CRK2
Build: R16NW. G930VV RS8CRK2
See, not knowing anything forces me to give all this information when a few keystrokes would do
Cruel_Carlos said:
Sammy S7- Oreo 8.0.0-0016- API 26- arm-64v8a- Qualcomm 822 (I think) boot loader RS8CRK2
Build: R16NW. G930VV RS8CRK2
See, not knowing anything forces me to give all this information when a few keystrokes would do
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The Qualcomm variants (your phone) are a little more difficult to root and there are several guides online how to do it but you have to make sure the guide says it is to root RK2 firmware on Oreo. RK2 has the December security patch i believe so there may not be a specific guide for that firmware yet but you can try and earlier guide which still works on your device after the December security patch.
This is to root G930V on Nougat from Jan 9 this year, it may work on Oreo too https://www.skyneel.com/root-samsung-galaxy-s7-verizon-sm-g930v-twrp-recovery
You could of course flash G930U firmware too which is unbranded USA and is known to work on Verizon devices. Sammobile XAA and USC. There is a modified version of Odin 13 to flash Verizon phones.
cooltt said:
The Qualcomm variants (your phone) are a little more difficult to root and there are several guides online how to do it but you have to make sure the guide says it is to root RK2 firmware on Oreo. RK2 has the December security patch i believe so there may not be a specific guide for that firmware yet but you can try and earlier guide which still works on your device after the December security patch.
This is to root G930V on Nougat from Jan 9 this year, it may work on Oreo too https://www.skyneel.com/root-samsung-galaxy-s7-verizon-sm-g930v-twrp-recovery
You could of course flash G930U firmware too which is unbranded USA and is known to work on Verizon devices. Sammobile XAA and USC. There is a modified version of Odin 13 to flash Verizon phones.
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Wow, I thank you for directly addressing in a way I could better understand. "I've been busy" doesn't even begin ... I'm only getting to it tonight and last night a little. Cheers!
Cruel_Carlos said:
Wow, I thank you for directly addressing in a way I could better understand. "I've been busy" doesn't even begin ... I'm only getting to it tonight and last night a little. Cheers!
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I just bought a g930v with the same bootloader. Did you have any luck with rooting or switching to the g930u firmware?
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Jiv4n said:
I just bought a g930v with the same bootloader. Did you have any luck with rooting or switching to the g930u firmware?
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Yes just follow the same instructions.
cooltt said:
Yes just follow the same instructions.
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Great thank you
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