Ok, you may have seen me asking questions about the Note in the last couple days.. and today I ventured out and actually bought one
A grey 16gb wi-fi model.
So now, I have a couple of questions I wanted to ask before I started installing lots of apps onto this thing!
First off, I have been looking into the JB stuff, which is one of the main reasons I wanted the Note. It seems that this is not out in the UK yet (or anywhere except Germany?) but there are ways to root the Note and install it...
Except it seems these (and every other ROM) are all designed for only the 8000 model? Which *I believe* is the wifi+3G model...
1 - So does this mean I cant use many custom roms? As they seem to be designed for the 8000? or is this irrelevent?
(I did find this thread about it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982821 except it seems that the JB install makes the battery drain around 3 hours quicker than it should? OR is this standard for jellybean? (seems strange)
2 - Alternatively, is it recommended just to wait for the official JB release. Seems its expected any day now, though who knows when that would be in reality.
3 - Something I was curious about... has any of the custom roms managed to keep the samsung ability to have multiview/dualview etc? Or do they just revert you to a customised version of standard Android?
4 - Anything that its recommended I do first, or install first, before I get going? Full battery charge would seem an idea, though I think I need to drain the battery first... Been a long time since my iPad was new, cant remember the right ways to do things anymore.
nirurin said:
Ok, you may have seen me asking questions about the Note in the last couple days.. and today I ventured out and actually bought one
A grey 16gb wi-fi model.
So now, I have a couple of questions I wanted to ask before I started installing lots of apps onto this thing!
First off, I have been looking into the JB stuff, which is one of the main reasons I wanted the Note. It seems that this is not out in the UK yet (or anywhere except Germany?) but there are ways to root the Note and install it...
Except it seems these (and every other ROM) are all designed for only the 8000 model? Which *I believe* is the wifi+3G model...
1 - So does this mean I cant use many custom roms? As they seem to be designed for the 8000? or is this irrelevent?
(I did find this thread about it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982821 except it seems that the JB install makes the battery drain around 3 hours quicker than it should? OR is this standard for jellybean? (seems strange)
2 - Alternatively, is it recommended just to wait for the official JB release. Seems its expected any day now, though who knows when that would be in reality.
3 - Something I was curious about... has any of the custom roms managed to keep the samsung ability to have multiview/dualview etc? Or do they just revert you to a customised version of standard Android?
4 - Anything that its recommended I do first, or install first, before I get going? Full battery charge would seem an idea, though I think I need to drain the battery first... Been a long time since my iPad was new, cant remember the right ways to do things anymore.
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1) There are usually tweaks that allow you to use the ROM, even if your device isn't the 8000. Keep in mind that those roms have telephony services, and will be looking for a 3G signal (unless disabled).
2) If you are staying stock I recommend waiting. If not, flash CM10. It's lovely!
3) It depends on if it is stock based or AOSP/CM based. Stock based roms retain all of the original functionality, but adds speed, animation, theme, and other misc tweaks. AOSP based roms lose all of the Samsung Touchwiz specific functionality (Multi-window, S apps), but give you a pure android experience and look. Of course, CM also has a cool theme chooser!
4) I believe you should charge it first, but others will correct me if I am mistaken
Enjoy your awesome new Note!
Jonphinguyen7 said:
1) There are usually tweaks that allow you to use the ROM, even if your device isn't the 8000. Keep in mind that those roms have telephony services, and will be looking for a 3G signal (unless disabled).
2) If you are staying stock I recommend waiting. If not, flash CM10. It's lovely!
3) It depends on if it is stock based or AOSP/CM based. Stock based roms retain all of the original functionality, but adds speed, animation, theme, and other misc tweaks. AOSP based roms lose all of the Samsung Touchwiz specific functionality (Multi-window, S apps), but give you a pure android experience and look. Of course, CM also has a cool theme chooser!
4) I believe you should charge it first, but others will correct me if I am mistaken
Enjoy your awesome new Note!
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1) Its nice that I have the options to play with it then, I'm sure there are ways to disable the 3G search. I was tempted to get it, but it didnt seem worth the extra £100+ (I got my note on an offer)
2) I assume I can flash CM10 while I wait, and return to stock when it is released? I'm only used to iOS jailbreaking, where you can always return to stock easily... I'd assumed this would work in a similar way?
3) It would be a shame to lose out on the samsung stuff... I'm not hooked on touchWiz or anything, but the multi-window stuff in the new JB update looked pretty snazzy. Of course in a years time I may change to pure android roms, if only to keep updated (I expect samsung will stop making their own updates soon enough)
4) I plugged it in briefly, saw it already had half a charge, and so unplugged it ... I cant remember if I should charge it to full first, then discharge it to 0%... or run it flat then charge it to full. Or if it makes no difference at all. Curse you technology!!
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5) Any recommended apps? I assume I can chuck on AVG or similar, is there anything specific I should use for backups etc?
All Android devices seem to have a real problem if you truly run the battery down to 0. I would say, get it close, but not to the point of dying.
As far as the German JB ROM, there's a patch to disable the phone stuff. I'm running it on a WiFi only 8013 and it's fine. Just read everything you can. Read the threads from the first page to the last.
Frankly, I've always been a custom ROM kind of guy. But the multi-view stuff is just so awesome, especially the JB version, that I'm sticking with stock. Changed the launcher, but sticking with stock.
midas69 said:
All Android devices seem to have a real problem if you truly run the battery down to 0. I would say, get it close, but not to the point of dying.
As far as the German JB ROM, there's a patch to disable the phone stuff. I'm running it on a WiFi only 8013 and it's fine. Just read everything you can. Read the threads from the first page to the last.
Frankly, I've always been a custom ROM kind of guy. But the multi-view stuff is just so awesome, especially the JB version, that I'm sticking with stock. Changed the launcher, but sticking with stock.
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Thanks for this. As it is getting late already, and I have work tomorrow, I may just stick to the ICS for now and get a couple basic apps and have a play around. You never know, the update may turn up!
I would just go for the JB one tonight, but I will need to find a step-by-step guide to help me, as I only have experience with the iOS jailbreaking process.
midas69 said:
All Android devices seem to have a real problem if you truly run the battery down to 0. I would say, get it close, but not to the point of dying.
As far as the German JB ROM, there's a patch to disable the phone stuff. I'm running it on a WiFi only 8013 and it's fine. Just read everything you can. Read the threads from the first page to the last.
Frankly, I've always been a custom ROM kind of guy. But the multi-view stuff is just so awesome, especially the JB version, that I'm sticking with stock. Changed the launcher, but sticking with stock.
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How is ur battery life on this rom, just got this tab a few days ago .thanks.
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How is ur battery life on this rom, just got this tab a few days ago .thanks.
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It was better with ICS. But it's still pretty good. Last week I watched 4½ hours of video and still had about 52% battery life left. It seems like every version of Android they come out with gets slightly worse with regards to battery life. But in this case I think the extras that JB adds makes it a worthwhile tradeoff. In JB the difference seems to come from the addition of Google Now. I'm tempted to turn it off since I really don't use it other than to shut up iPhone users
After some research, it seems rooting is even more complicated than I first thought... because of the "binary counter" that samsung now has on their devices.
It seems that you can reset this counter, but I think it would only be sensible to road-test the tablet as stock first, in case it has any obvious faults that need to be sorted under warranty...
Although I do hate being sensible.
Same. I usually stay stock/un-rooted for about a month.. or two.. then I can't help it and just want to root and do other stuff. But for now, I have all that I really need for my Note at the moment without needing to root.
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After some research, it seems rooting is even more complicated than I first thought... because of the "binary counter" that samsung now has on their devices.
It seems that you can reset this counter, but I think it would only be sensible to road-test the tablet as stock first, in case it has any obvious faults that need to be sorted under warranty...
Although I do hate being sensible.
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hahaha, I felt the same way. I actually bought mine about a week before the Nexus 10 official announcement. I wanted to wait to make a decision on whether to keep the Note or send it back and get the Nexus 10. I was going to wait to root until I heard the full details and made the decision.
I was rooted about 2 hours after I took it home :laugh:
I hope your resolve lasts longer than mine did.
I rooted immediately, I have SG3 & 2, and I still have the galaxy 10.1 running a jb Rom. Guess I should of played with stock a little more, but really wanna see how the development is.
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I rooted immediately, I have SG3 & 2, and I still have the galaxy 10.1 running a jb Rom. Guess I should of played with stock a little more, but really wanna see how the development is.
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I'd be happy with stock (for a while at least), if the current stock was the jellybean update lol.
I will attempt to keep myself entertained with the differences between my old iPad1 and this fancy new tablet, and hope that distracts me until samsung release the UK JB.
Hope its soon!
Strange how Germany got it first... and as far as I know is the only place to get it? and that was 3 weeks ago now. Odd.
Apparently you got your wish... JB for UK dropped today, unfortunately for all you guys with wifi only, you seem to be the redheaded freckle faced kid in the shade that can't come out to play because its for the 3g model only again....
Personally, I'd root that sucker and try the new JB update.... You won't be disappointed....
Well I have a 3G model but I am from India so no update yet for me so kind of sucks
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Apparently you got your wish... JB for UK dropped today, unfortunately for all you guys with wifi only, you seem to be the redheaded freckle faced kid in the shade that can't come out to play because its for the 3g model only again....
Personally, I'd root that sucker and try the new JB update.... You won't be disappointed....
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Yeh, I was initially tempted by the 3G model... But it would have been over £100 more expensive, plus a monthly subscription for data, and just isn't worth it.
Although its frustrating that Samsung will probably now wait another month before updating the wifi model... I don't think Germany even has it yet?
Couldn't you buy it outright? Then its up to you to either buy a plan, prepaid sim or use as a wifi model.... I personally prefer to get the 3g model simply because there may come a time when I need to use it.
I have a few 3g tablets, note 10.1, galaxy tab 7" and Acer Iconia A501.... Not all of these have sim cards but the potential is there if needed....
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Couldn't you buy it outright? Then its up to you to either buy a plan, prepaid sim or use as a wifi model.... I personally prefer to get the 3g model simply because there may come a time when I need to use it.
I have a few 3g tablets, note 10.1, galaxy tab 7" and Acer Iconia A501.... Not all of these have sim cards but the potential is there if needed....
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Well yes, but thats the point I was making... to buy it outright would have cost me an extra £100, and I simply dont have that much money to throw away.
If I was going to make a lot of use out of it, then fine... but I doubt I will. If I need internet on the move, I have my GalaxyS2,
Or, if for some reason I need internet on the move *specifically* on my tablet... I have my GalaxyS2 and tethering.
Saving myself over £100 means... well that £100 has bought me a really nice case, a 64GB microSD card, and a 4-in-1 adaptor for using USB/miniUSB/SD cards with the Note. And I still have £30 left over!
More than worth it, in my book. Just a shame we have t wait for the darned JB update so I can actually use the 64gb stick!
Bought my 10 year old this tablet last year for Xmas and it's laggy as all get out IMO. Love my android phones and will never switch, but I also love by iPad /gasp!
I am wondering if unlocking and rom'ing this thing will really make enough difference.
I have rooted and rom'ed every phone I have ever had, but I also use them daily so I get to play around with roms and figure out whats stable and works really well. I am also a little nervous about this thing, so many instructions and various ways to do things depending on which update your on.
The tab is 4.2.1 10.6.1.24.5
Any opinions on this and/or suggestions on what roms to try out if I go for it?
arcsum68 said:
Bought my 10 year old this tablet last year for Xmas and it's laggy as all get out IMO. Love my android phones and will never switch, but I also love by iPad /gasp!
I am wondering if unlocking and rom'ing this thing will really make enough difference.
I have rooted and rom'ed every phone I have ever had, but I also use them daily so I get to play around with roms and figure out whats stable and works really well. I am also a little nervous about this thing, so many instructions and various ways to do things depending on which update your on.
The tab is 4.2.1 10.6.1.24.5
Any opinions on this and/or suggestions on what roms to try out if I go for it?
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Unlocking and flashing custom ROMs is a major improvement over stock. If you want stability and performance, CROMi. If you want performance and cutting edge, CM or another KK ROM.
Just be careful about what to flash and always ask questions is there is any doubt.
cmendonc2 said:
Unlocking and flashing custom ROMs is a major improvement over stock. If you want stability and performance, CROMi. If you want performance and cutting edge, CM or another KK ROM.
Just be careful about what to flash and always ask questions is there is any doubt.
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Thanks, think I will check it out. Wish there was a path back to stock though.
arcsum68 said:
Thanks, think I will check it out. Wish there was a path back to stock though.
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You can always reflash the stock ROM to go back to stock, but only if you haven't bricked your tablet.
Made a backup of the stock unrooted rom, then rooted and backed up the apps. Loaded up Cromi and all is working well. So far I cant say it's that much of an improvement, with the exception of browsing. Flash will be nice too.
Should I feel like its a huge improvement? Maybe I needed to pick a different kernel.
At 1:15 today ill be picking up my new G3 from the AT&T store! incredibly excited!
I have been using the G2 and messing with it for months so i just hope i have the same range of options with this phone, which leads me to ask...
What are some of your favorite things about this phone? what are your favorite roms, mods, theams, tweaks? and lastly, are there any things about this phone i should know about before messing with it too much, like any common issues that will be frustrating?
Thank you all for your time, i look forward to seeing if anyone has any suggestions for me
blacklight215 said:
At 1:15 today ill be picking up my new G3 from the AT&T store! incredibly excited!
I have been using the G2 and messing with it for months so i just hope i have the same range of options with this phone, which leads me to ask...
What are some of your favorite things about this phone? what are your favorite roms, mods, theams, tweaks? and lastly, are there any things about this phone i should know about before messing with it too much, like any common issues that will be frustrating?
Thank you all for your time, i look forward to seeing if anyone has any suggestions for me
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The most frustrating thing about this phone is that any custom ROM's that are available tend to eat more battery than stock. The absolute best ROM for this phone ATM is the Cloudy G3 ROM which is a stock ROM that is debloated and had a few extra features thrown in. Everything works spectacularly well on this ROM and battery life is phenomenal. But hey, throw on Nova Prime launcher and make it your own, the possibilities are endless. LOL
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The most frustrating thing about this phone is that any custom ROM's that are available tend to eat more battery than stock. The absolute best ROM for this phone ATM is the Cloudy G3 ROM
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That's funny, because i found the exact same thing with my G2! I hated every ROM until i used Cloudy G3 and i loved it!
Unfortunately at one point my G2 hard bricked and i kinda blamed it on how many times I've changed ROM'S and recovery's i had tried, and since i was using Cloudy at the time i really felt it was partly because of it. And after i replaced the Mobo i kept it stock but always missed it lol.
Just rooted my LG G3 ATT with avicohh's tool and it was a smooth transaction. I'd like to find just a stock ROM that is already debloated but honestly it's smarter for you to use Titanium and choose what apps you don't want to be a part of your system. If I see a strong response to better battery life on a specific ROM I might flash it but until then it's stock with minor modifications to storage/RAM hogging features. You'll love your G3. It's different to a degree but it's snappy and tough. The default icons for apps is pretty bad which is my only gripe so far and of course button placement forces you to use screen taps to lock/unlock. Make sure your case has a pretty good space between the cutout and your flash/sensor/camera on the back. Tight cuts in that area make the camera less effective due to reflecting or blocking light.
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The most frustrating thing about this phone is that any custom ROM's that are available tend to eat more battery than stock. The absolute best ROM for this phone ATM is the Cloudy G3 ROM which is a stock ROM that is debloated and had a few extra features thrown in. Everything works spectacularly well on this ROM and battery life is phenomenal. But hey, throw on Nova Prime launcher and make it your own, the possibilities are endless. LOL
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Is this still the best option for optimal battery life on the G3? It's about time I flashed something worthy.
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Is this still the best option for optimal battery life on the G3? It's about time I flashed something worthy.
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Cloudy is the only ROM I will run on mine until someone else comes out with a stock based ROM that is worthy. I have tried several of hte variants built from CM source, and don't get me wrong, they are very fast, stable and are for the most part daily drivers. But none of the CM variants have the G3 camera and none that I have found have the awesome battery life that I experience with Cloudy.
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Cloudy is the only ROM I will run on mine until someone else comes out with a stock based ROM that is worthy. I have tried several of hte variants built from CM source, and don't get me wrong, they are very fast, stable and are for the most part daily drivers. But none of the CM variants have the G3 camera and none that I have found have the awesome battery life that I experience with Cloudy.
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You think the g3 cam is superior? I tried using camera zoom pro but the results were pretty bad...
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You think the g3 cam is superior? I tried using camera zoom pro but the results were pretty bad...
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Yes, G3 cam is the best out there other than the stock cam on the S6.
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I'd like to find just a stock ROM that is already debloated.
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I found one on this site that I've liked quite a bit, forget what its called though.
so far my only issue with this phone is my inability to install xposed framework and get the g3 tweakbox. apparently since i have lollipop on my phone its a nightmare.
blacklight215 said:
I found one on this site that I've liked quite a bit, forget what its called though.
so far my only issue with this phone is my inability to install xposed framework and get the g3 tweakbox. apparently since i have lollipop on my phone its a nightmare.
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Well that's great news because I'm running lollipop haha but fortunately I didn't used xposed much on my last phone so perhaps I won't need it this time around either.
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Well that's great news because I'm running lollipop haha but fortunately I didn't used xposed much on my last phone so perhaps I won't need it this time around either.
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Yeah I'm sure you won't XD. But for me i used it on my G2 and i customized every little thing to the point where it was exactly the way i like it, and i wish i had that ability with the G3
Which rom would be the best to put on here that gets OTA updates?
Current Setup:
Android 4.4.4
CyanogenMod 11.0XNPH44S
I haven't used the phone since the battery went out years ago but I replaced it and wanted to give my mom a nice daily since her phone broke. Preferably something simple as she is an older lady, that can use the Play Store/gapps, Spanish language would be a plus, quick, and long battery life. She's coming off an older Moto G so this is still an upgrade but I wanted to make sure she got something nice and I haven't looked into flashing roms in ages. There are so many cool roms I would use for myself, but I want something my mom can use and I won't have to worry about helping her with (she lives across the country).
If you've replaced the battery it's probably an overrated counterfeit that isn't actually 3000mah~.
The phone doesn't really get OTA's per se anymore, not for quite some time now, beyond custom ROM's and all the funkiness that goes with that (eg not suitable for mom).
Best in terms of daily, reliability and battery life would be to run SultanXDA's LOS 7.1. Runs and looks stock, no funky weird CUSTOM 1337 features, pretty much no weird reboots and so forth. It's EOL'd as well though so no OTA's for it either anymore. Oreo customs is good but YMMV, I still wouldn't recommend any of the builds for a "normal" user.
official LOS 15.1
Candy 8.1
Carbon 8.1
OTA available
disable : auto-rotate/proximity check/DT2W
location : set to battery saving
I bought recently the OP6 and i gave my OPO to my mother too, when i was using it, i was running the TugaPower Rom N series, now it's on N58 i think, very very good rom, stable and debloated, just try it ^^
Planning to install official LOS 15.1 soon, but being the first version I'm not too keen on doing it so soon. Still running on last stock OTA COS version and the battery runs smoothly at 85% after 4 years of intensive daily usage. Since moved to 5T couple of months ago, I one the OP1 as ebook and gaming device only, but I would like to upgrade the OS and probably I'll go first for LOS-14.1-2018-06-13 version first, since it's the last one. At least to check the battery consumption first.
Thanks everyone! I ended up flashing SultanXDA's LOS 7.1 , thanks for the advice.
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Thanks everyone! I ended up flashing SultanXDA's LOS 7.1 , thanks for the advice.
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Let me know please how that goes for you. Yesterday I just factory reset mine and now I'm reinstalling all apps fresh removing CM account in the process to see how the battery goes with that hog.
Thank you