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Galaxy Note 3 Snapdragon 800 Quad vs Exynos Octa (N9005 vs N900) Comparison

Hi Guys,
I made a video comparing the Exynos 5420 and Qualcomm 800 Variants
Hope you find it helpful!
Ash

Good one. I liked it.
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Great video ash , thank you!
only needed temperature compare after benchmarks !

thank u and wow the s800 seems have very bad throttling issue :/

archer797 said:
Good one. I liked it.
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heavylift said:
Great video ash , thank you!
only needed temperature compare after benchmarks !
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Both battery temps read 39 degrees (39.8 and 39.6)
yahyoh said:
thank u and wow the s800 seems have very bad throttling issue :/
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Thanks guys

Please can u compare CPU temp after running some benchmarks
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.pmw

ashwin123 said:
Hi Guys,
I made a video comparing the Exynos 5420 and Qualcomm 800 Variants
Ash
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Good video. One thing to mention, when you said you cannot unroot the device without leaving a flag, you can use Root de la Vega on SD800's and it will not trigger the flag. Just flash stock ROM to wipe root. It's been out for about a week now.

Great video from c4etech as is the case always.
However, I need to mention that at the beginning you had pressed the restart button of the exynos variant a split/second before the slapdragon 800 one's. Well, I am not sure about how would that affected the delay in rebooting of slapdragon one. Just to mention it.

thekoRngear said:
Great video from c4etech as is the case always.
However, I need to mention that at the beginning you had pressed the restart button of the exynos variant a split/second before the slapdragon 800 one's. Well, I am not sure about how would that affected the delay in rebooting of slapdragon one. Just to mention it.
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lol did I? didnt intend to, my apologies
Anyway thats the reason, I had a stop clock there (and cuz I really couldnt come up with any other use for the iPhone 5C right now )
Ash

ashwin123 said:
Hi Guys,
I made a video comparing the Exynos 5420 and Qualcomm 800 Variants
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Ash
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Hey Ash, love your videos!
Could you compare and comment on the headphone audio quality on both the variants?
Also, does any variant suffer from any overheating issues?

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Thank you ASH
useful for me :good:

azdine57 said:
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He is doing a benchmark after another, and cause of the heat the phone has lower result in the video.
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Great video mate! I was not able to listen to the audio (was attending a class)One thing I noticed from the video that both the variants show similar performane while doing cpu intensive jobs! The difference comes when the gpu is needed and even there tge difference is minor. So overall the exynos version is not that bad.
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it depends on the upgrade of the os.. s800 has an overheat issue witch decrease maxfreq as fast as you say "hello", it's a thermal ID function witch, when you reach 65°C, system goes from 2.3 to about 1.5 for all 4 cores.. that's why he has less benchmark results
air temperature of the room dissipate the phone overheat.. heater is, more underclocking of the cpu maxfreq
btw, last upgrade of the rom disable the thermal ID for some benchmark apps, and force the governor as a performance, so, all 4 cores turned on + maxfreq for all cores.. so.. that's why you have those results
but.. the real result is what ash had, you only have a fixed one witch values are impossible to uses in normal situation since system underclock the cpu
don't you beleve? run stability test, open system tuner, go to cpu tab, see the maxfreq goes from 2.3 to about 1.5.. and cpu temperature at about 65°C or symilar
try :good:

can you please post "sunspider and browser benchmark" test of them ?

Just my opinion, no offence.
I not sure what you did to the device. Your N9005 is kind of slow, all slow.
My benchmark score is higher anytime than yours.
I can get at least 33k for Antutu after unstop using it, means the phone is kind of hot. 36k for Antutu after cooling down.
As for 3D Mark, I always get Maxed out! for Ice Store & Ice Storm Extreme.
Also I notice you had more background running apps in S800 than Exynos one, at least it show they is one more search apps inside.
Beside this, can't you press together for all the running? It is not that difficult to do so.
I find your benchmark is useless as you not even can do proper in basic things.

Great video, very helpful
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can you please post "sunspider and browser benchmark" test of them ?
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thanks a lot.. and anyone has N900 to benchmark them ?

snapdragon 810 v2.1

Hi all,
Could someone please check the cpu revision in the bootloader of the g flex 2 after android update 5.1.1
I'm wondering if its v2.1 or v2.0
because its highly likely it will say v2.1

I have at&t so I will likely never see an update.
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WittePens said:
Hi all,
Could someone please check the cpu revision in the bootloader of the g flex 2 after android update 5.1.1
I'm wondering if its v2.1 or v2.0
because its highly likely it will say v2.1
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I dont have 5.1.1 you can try fcs scanner from playstore

kutulu32 said:
I dont have 5.1.1 you can try fcs scanner from playstore
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Maybe we have revision 1 then ,i have the same result with 5.0.1

woah,
I thought revision 1 was only used in the prototype tablet.
Seems LG and Qualcomm used the g flex 2 as a test device then.

Ok,
So for anybody that is intrested. It is indeed the rev 1p1 in the lg g flex 2.
After android update 5.1.1 it seems like cpu4 and cpu7 have been turned off and the cpu has been capped at 1.56GHz (ranges from 384 MHz - 1.56 GHz (feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, the correcter the information i get about this phone the better)
In general, it looks like the phones performance issues have gone away, and its Flying like a phoenix from the ashes.
It does however feel like a double edged blade.

WittePens said:
Ok,
So for anybody that is intrested. It is indeed the rev 1p1 in the lg g flex 2.
After android update 5.1.1 it seems like cpu4 and cpu7 have been turned off and the cpu has been capped at 1.56GHz (ranges from 384 MHz - 1.56 GHz (feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, the correcter the information i get about this phone the better)
In general, it looks like the phones performance issues have gone away, and its Flying like a phoenix from the ashes.
It does however feel like a double edged blade.
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So its like a governor on a Lamborghini.
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WittePens said:
Ok,
So for anybody that is intrested. It is indeed the rev 1p1 in the lg g flex 2.
After android update 5.1.1 it seems like cpu4 and cpu7 have been turned off and the cpu has been capped at 1.56GHz (ranges from 384 MHz - 1.56 GHz (feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, the correcter the information i get about this phone the better)
In general, it looks like the phones performance issues have gone away, and its Flying like a phoenix from the ashes.
It does however feel like a double edged blade.
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So its like a governor on a Lamborghini.
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Sorry but It is not like this. CPUs, turn on/off depending on the load of work they have to serve or the temperature.
I just checked my phone with CPU-Z app and 8 cores were working:
4X1958MHz and the others 4X1555MHz

With 5.1 1 performance was decreased compared with 5.0.1 rooted debloated with custom thermal settings .5.1.1 has quite better battery life though.

Revision r1p1, can confirm clock speed.

well i was researching to buy this phone, and the one i bought is r0p2
gets pretty hot atm, but i guess thats because i'm downloading and installing some apps

The r0p2 was on 5.0.1
now my phone got the 5.1.1 update and it says r1p1
and i don't get the fuss about this device being slow or warm
my nexus 5 got way hotter and was way more sluggish then this beast

WittePens said:
The r0p2 was on 5.0.1
now my phone got the 5.1.1 update and it says r1p1
and i don't get the fuss about this device being slow or warm
my nexus 5 got way hotter and was way more sluggish then this beast
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Yep. Also, none of the cores are turned of in 5.1.1, as some users sugested , they are all working...
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They do get turned off when it gets too hot ive noticed
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WittePens said:
They do get turned off when it gets too hot ive noticed
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They do, but not because the phone is updated to 5.1.1, but because the overheating of it. :thumbup:
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Yep. But how can the revision of a cpu change. Is that software related? If so，there is no difference between g flex 2 sd810 and new 2.1 revision in sony z3+ or oneplus two. Its all bs then.
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WittePens said:
Yep. But how can the revision of a cpu change. Is that software related? If so，there is no difference between g flex 2 sd810 and new 2.1 revision in sony z3+ or oneplus two. Its all bs then.
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Oneplus 2 will underclock to 1.8 instead of 2 and use a better thermal hardware. throttling is in all 810 phones thats a fact. Even xiaomi mi note pro have issues... But the problem is not that bad . qualcomm i think wasnt ready to release 64 bit cpu ...

according to cpu-z,mine is r1p1 rev. and i'm stock on 5.0.1...

Sorry for noobish question, but can anyone explain me is SoC software or hardware related and are all lg g flex 2 CPU same(are snapdragon 810 v.2 and v2.1 same cpu-s with different software,or different cpu-s)?

Nougat screen calibration & camera FW

Hey folks,
I wonder if the Nougat beta comes with the screen calibration options presented in stock nougat. Unfortunately my S7 has a light yellow tint and I'd like to get rid of it.
While comparing two S7 I also noticed that depending on the pre-installed camera FW the front camera shoots sharp or slightly blurry photos. On my research I found out that at the moment there is no method to update the camera FW. Not even with a full wipe and reflash via Odin. So my question is: Does the nougat beta updates the camera FW?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards

All S7 has this terrible ugly yellowish/brownish tint in basic mode...Only in Adaptive mode whites are fine but than all the other colors are crazy oversatured...
I'm at the point i'm going to sell this phone if i can't find a solution...
Can you tell me how to install Nougat?It is already available?
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I compared two S7 with same preferences and noticed the difference so it isn't a problem regarding the display mode.
I dont't want to seem rude but there are lot of guides how to install nougat here on xda, so please stop misusing this thread for your own purposes.

GerasVille said:
I compared two S7 with same preferences and noticed the difference so it isn't a problem regarding the display mode.
I dont't want to seem rude but there are lot of guides how to install nougat here on xda, so please stop misusing this thread for your own purposes.
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At least can you tell us if with Nougat Beta is possible to calibrate color saturation?
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This is what I want to know.

GerasVille said:
This is what I want to know.
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I tought you were another user...Sorry
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Can't find nothing else only the 4 horrible displays mode so i think is not possible.Cause is not mentioned in Nougat reviews...
I think Amoled can't handle customi calibration cause if it was possible Samsung already gave us the option...
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eddykoodoo said:
I tought you were another user...Sorry
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Can't find nothing else only the 4 horrible displays mode so i think is not possible.Cause is not mentioned in Nougat reviews...
I think Amoled can't handle customi calibration cause if it was possible Samsung already gave us the option...
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Well instead of ranting about the screen in every thread you find, sell the S7 and buy something you like, do research next time

*Detection* said:
Well instead of ranting about the screen in every thread you find, sell the S7 and buy something you like, do research next time
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Sorry but if i would able to fix the problem with an app or nougat update would be better...
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eddykoodoo said:
Sorry but if i would able to fix the problem with an app or nougat update would be better...
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So go looking for a solution then, no need to announce your disgust in every breath, you won't get a good reception in the S7 forums by doing that, the majority of people here like their phones and it's screen
If you don't like the phone, go shout about it in another forum

*Detection* said:
So go looking for a solution then, no need to announce your disgust in every breath, you won't get a good reception in the S7 forums by doing that, the majority of people here like their phones and it's screen
If you don't like the phone, go shout about it in another forum
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https://www.google.it/amp/amp.andro...your-screen-color-android-n-developer-preview
So anyone tried if this option is available on Nougat 7 ?
If not do you think with root is it possible to work on color temperature and saturation?
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Can't we all just get along?

tampitzel said:
Can't we all just get along?
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We will appreciate if just one of you with Nougat Beta can tell us if R G B settings are availabe...
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eddykoodoo said:
We will appreciate if just one of you with Nougat Beta can tell us if R G B settings are availabe...
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Can't remember if this is in MM, but check settings > accessibility > Vision > Colour adjustment
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So anyone tried if this option is available on Nougat 7 ?
If not do you think with root is it possible to work on color temperature and saturation?
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Can't seem to find it. And yeah, believe there are apps for that. Just search the play store for screen adjust or something.

dagrim1 said:
Can't seem to find it. And yeah, believe there are apps for that. Just search the play store for screen adjust or something.
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This app doesn't work really well are really unstable plus they work adding an overlay so they consume a lot of power cause black pixel will never shut off...
A proper way should be to interact with the values directly from the system...
I guess if rooting the phone i can finally find a solution.
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Most stable setup for the 6045i?

I had some errors with the factory setup of the phone and then tried the PAC ROM which had a lot of restart issues. Do I need to flash a new kernel and what ROMs seem to eliminate restart issues?

I've pretty much tried most ROMs out for the Idol 3, and I'd say the most stable one out of the bunch is DCZ's ROM --> https://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/development/rom-6045-i806-dcz-stock-oc-kernel-root-t3257511
I'd say the second one is PixelOS by Alek Dev - although it's smooth so far, I haven't had it for long so I can't make judgements on it's reliability. But most of Alek's ROM unfortunately starts slowing down considerably after a couple of weeks. Not sure if the same happens with the PixelOS as I've had it for a couple days.

After tested a good ammount of them, i agree with @MysteriousAnon, i mean i didn't tested DCZ ROM but pixel is going pretty good and good battery life compared to others
Anyways i would use cm13 if had no battery issue, cm12.1 runs good too
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Btw here a pic of antutu with PixelOS
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i've been on this for months
https://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/development/6045-project-material-t3417757

Btw here, other pic from PixelOS but at 1280x720 (the gaming experience increases a lot lol)
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Btw here, other pic from PixelOS but at 1280x720 (the gaming experience increases a lot lol)View attachment 4041640
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WOW how did you get this score :good::good::good:

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WOW how did you get this score :good::good::good:
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In the 3d test i used 1280*720 instead of 1920*1080, using GLtools
The rest is Same as always
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Btw here, other pic from PixelOS but at 1280x720 (the gaming experience increases a lot lol)View attachment 4041640
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I know this tweak, i've doing the same on galaxy note 10.1 to increase battery. and, at the same time GPU is faster
degrease res and dpi can be usefull on some devices but it's not amazing on idol3
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murigny64 said:
I know this tweak, i've doing the same on galaxy note 10.1 to increase battery. and, at the same time GPU is faster
degrease res and dpi can be usefull on some devices but it's not amazing on idol3
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Oh I use it for the GPU performance only, the battery for me it is very bad already so I don't know if that resolution change will change much
But on games, the difference is a lot on fps
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HeadMajor said:
i've been on this for months
https://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/development/6045-project-material-t3417757
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another vote for Project Material. runs rock solid.

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another vote for Project Material. runs rock solid.
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For you and @HeadMajor, how much screen hours you get in that ROM? D:
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For you and @HeadMajor, how much screen hours you get in that ROM? D:
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i have moved to new phone now (zte axon 7), but i would think SOT (screen on time) of ~6 hours may be.
i never went all the way down to zero on the battery, it seems to use just about ~15% for 1 hour of SOT. this is with lowest brightness.

deepasadish said:
i have moved to new phone now (zte axon 7), but i would think SOT (screen on time) of ~6 hours may be.
i never went all the way down to zero on the battery, it seems to use just about ~15% for 1 hour of SOT. this is with lowest brightness.
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thanks, installed and you are right, battery is amazing

sorry, i'm not a great one to compare against for screen on time, as i play ingress and pokemon go, and they both eat up the battery quite a bit.

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What about performance? Does it lag more than stock rom or its faster ?

Your Exynos chip binning

Hi,
For some work related and general information, I'm curious to see what kind of chip bins people are getting. The devices I've seen so far have had trash bins which affect power consumption and battery life.
To find out your chip bin, you don't need root on the S8. Simply reboot into download mode via Vol-Down + Bixby Button + Power Button. You get the following information:
The nASV_xxx are the block binning numbers. CL0 is little cores, CL1 big cores, G3D is the GPU.
Alternatively if you have it rooted you can read it in /sys/kernel/debug/asv_summary
For the sake of simplicity in the poll, just post the G3D figure as I've noticed that seems to be always the worst one.
There are 15 ASV groups. The higher the number, the better your bin and power consumption.
If you want, you can post in detail the bins if they differ a lot. Also it would be useful to post when you purchased your device. It's possible that devices purchased/manufactured at a later date will have better bins.

Hey Andrei good you are back I'll post mine in a min
indeed **** bins,
CL0: 4
CL1: 6
G3D: 3
bought on Sunday manufactured on 14/04/2017
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CL0 bin 4, CL1 bin 6, G3D bin 4. Manufactured on March 29.

Cl0 5 cl1 7 g3d 6
pre-order and manufacture date i think was 17th March if i dial *#12580*369#

Cl0 6 cl1 7 g3d 7 Im sorry S8+ Btw

Cl0 6 cl1 7 g3d 5, manufacture date: 1st April, at least got it already on 18th

Cl0: 5
cl1: 5
g3d: 5
s8+ uk sm-g955f
The Chip binning on S6's was an average of 11ASV.

10
9
9
S8+
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droidmeup said:
10
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9
S8+
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Whatttt?where you bought it and what's the manufacturing date plz
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skivnit said:
Whatttt?where you bought it and what's the manufacturing date plz
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Australian model 4/4/17
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philipone69 said:
S8 prod date 22.03.2017 (bought from Vodafone Romania unlocked)
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Wow your gpu bin is the worst. Are we sure there are 15 groups as in the past
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Are we sure there are 15 groups as in the past
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Yes.

10
10
10
for me

philipone69 said:
Come ooon. Should i return it?
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Good luck getting them to agree to take it. Mine has a pink screen so am going to change it, not sure I will get any worse than 5,5,5 tbh.

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S8, bought on 21st April Orange Romania

philipone69 said:
I was joking. Bining values are not that important for me as long as i get good performance from my device. Battery life difference between my 1 and a 10 is so small that does not worth the hassle to get an exchange with potentially other problems
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If you read anandtech review of the a6 exynos chips you could see that from avs 1 to 15 there's a 20% gap
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9330/exynos-7420-deep-dive
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S8+ , bought on 20st april at digitec (no brand) in switzerland

philipone69 said:
Ok. Here's antutu on my phone. Do yours. Post the difference. There are so many more variables than just a bad bind... Does it count? Yes. Does it matter that much on mobiles? Not really.
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I'm only talking about battery life, I don't care much about benchmarks
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I get better battery life than that. Over 4 hours sot before 50% left yet I have worse cpu bin of 4 for little, 7 for big age 4 for gpu
So are the bin marks that important?? Or maybe lower means better?

Is it only the Exynos that has these major differences from one chip to another performance wise? I have the Snapdragon model, wonder if those are all comparable to each other.