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http://phandroid.com/2010/06/08/control-your-android-device-without-touching-it-thanks-to-eyesight/
new app, doesnt show up in market for me, anyone who isnt rooted have it?
also has anyone used this on a nokia does it actually work?
davebu said:
http://phandroid.com/2010/06/08/control-your-android-device-without-touching-it-thanks-to-eyesight/
new app, doesnt show up in market for me, anyone who isnt rooted have it?
also has anyone used this on a nokia does it actually work?
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"How well it will work? We can’t say as there haven’t been any demos of it on an Android device as of yet, but stroll over to eyeSight’s site now to look at more demos of their framework being used on Nokia devices."
but product demos and actual products dont always work the same, user experience is much more reliable.
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but product demos and actual products dont always work the same, user experience is much more reliable.
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Yea its not released If they have not seen it then why would we.
its been released on symbian for over a year, considering the press release says its out for android now and i dont have another android device i can check on i figured it was another missing app from the market as i am rooted with toastcfh's method
i just tried on my hero and i cant find it there either, so i dont think its in the market
For example, is it possible to get the Samsung Music app ported, possibly the lock screen, Daily briefing, etc.?
We can keep the swype though, it has the voice speech button so leave that be
I was wondering this same thing. I think someone needs to make a ROM that is truly "Epic" with all the Galaxy S features, just like you said along with Social Hub as well.
Someone up to the challenge?
schizopunk said:
I was wondering this same thing. I think someone needs to make a ROM that is truly "Epic" with all the Galaxy S features, just like you said along with Social Hub as well.
Someone up to the challenge?
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I think I remember seeing that the Epic has like an in-between version of TouchWiz, like 2.5 almost, mainly because it would have been a lot of work to do the rotating homescreen, I think that was from Android Central, and then like TechCrunch or someone. I'm not sure. Correct me if I am wrong. Although the latter piece did mention that although neither Samsung or Sprint would confirm this, the Epic would be getting TouchWiz 3.0 with the Froyo update. Let's just hope so. Personally, I like to get my own apps, and use stock Android.
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I think I remember seeing that the Epic has like an in-between version of TouchWiz, like 2.5 almost, mainly because it would have been a lot of work to do the rotating homescreen, I think that was from Android Central, and then like TechCrunch or someone. I'm not sure. Correct me if I am wrong. Although the latter piece did mention that although neither Samsung or Sprint would confirm this, the Epic would be getting TouchWiz 3.0 with the Froyo update. Let's just hope so. Personally, I like to get my own apps, and use stock Android.
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I don't get why the music player was left out then. That turns into a coverflow type view in landscape.
rufflez2010 said:
I don't get why the music player was left out then. That turns into a coverflow type view in landscape.
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I'm no expert, and my development experience is limited to "Hello World" apps, but from what I do know, there is probably a custom framework with API calls in 3.0, that the Epic version doesn't have. Don't quote me on that though. I was depressed about the default media player and other TouchWiz issues too, but it is still miles ahead of the Hero, so I am going to be there on day 2 (because my upgrade isn't until the 1st of September, but I will be getting to the store before 6pm on that day to pick up my reserved unit, even though it is an hour a way from where I live).
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I'm no expert, and my development experience is limited to "Hello World" apps, but from what I do know, there is probably a custom framework with API calls in 3.0, that the Epic version doesn't have. Don't quote me on that though. I was depressed about the default media player and other TouchWiz issues too, but it is still miles ahead of the Hero, so I am going to be there on day 2 (because my upgrade isn't until the 1st of September, but I will be getting to the store before 6pm on that day to pick up my reserved unit, even though it is an hour a way from where I live).
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I'm not too worried about it. I'm not going to fret on the differences between the Epic and the others. What I'm looking forward to more is a unrevoked forever type solution for the Epic, more than I am a root for it. No worries about installing OTA updates that may block root.
If you use a forever root on your phone, does that mean that even you can't unroot it? What if your phone needs repair at a Sprint store? Can you unroot?
Eazail70x7 said:
If you use a forever root on your phone, does that mean that even you can't unroot it? What if your phone needs repair at a Sprint store? Can you unroot?
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There would be no way for them to know unless they tried to do something that required root access. Also, RUU's can alter forever root, but not OTA updates since they don't touch the radio, but RUU's can. Technically, you could RUU back and lockup the bootloader I believe, but I don't know. Technically, with the N1, you don't void warranty by unlocking the bootloader alone, you have to do something dumb, like flash a radio for a mytouch3g or something to void it.
So the title basically says it all. I've read that the google team is working hard on getting the 3.14 kernel to android, possibly with Android 5.0. My question is, if anyone has any idea if we'll get the latest kernel with the android update, or the kernel will be just for newer devices, like the nexus 6? I used to have a Nexus S, but I don't remember if it ever got a kernel update, when they rolled up a major android update. So any ideas guys?
Since none of us can see into the future, anything anyone says will be a pure guess.
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Since none of us can see into the future, anything anyone says will be a pure guess.
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All I can expect is a well educated guess based on past experience. I know that no one knows for sure, but if google did something like this before they are likely to do it again. It's just that I skipped over some generations of nexus devices and I don't know if google updates the kernel as it comes out, or do you get to keep only what you got when you've bought the phone?
btw, hi rootSU, haven't seen you in a while
granets said:
All I can expect is a well educated guess on past experience. I know that no one knows for sure, but if google did something like this before they are likely to do it again. It's just that I skipped over some generations of nexus devices and I don't know if google updates the kernel as it comes out, or do you get to keep only what you got when you've bought the phone?
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I'm guessing they won't. Not every kernel release has something in it that we need. Generally we wouldn't need to re-base the kernel for standard use.
Then again, this is my first nexus.
Edit > Yes left the S3 in November
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I'm guessing they won't. Not every kernel release has something in it that we need. Generally we wouldn't need to re-base the kernel for standard use.
Then again, this is my first nexus.
Edit > Yes left the S3 in November
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Yeah I've seen you post in a couple of S3 threads, I'd say very often Nexus devices are far superior to other phones(IMHO), I hope you like your N5. I got my S3 as a gift, hated that device, glad I managed to sell it and get a N5.
Yeah it's great. I've never had a Nexus but the HTC Desire I used to have was closely related to the Nexus One. I'll never go Samsung again.....and if I were to, it would definitely need to be Qualcomm based.
does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access
Yeah I also want to root it. Plz anyone tell the method.
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Won't be a method until it's released, then I'm certain the devs here will start cracking on it. Give time, the guys here are pretty good at what they do but there's still no guarantee root will be achieved (US models that is).
waninae39 said:
does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access
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Root will happen
(If not I'll be suprised)
Look at s7 edge (exynos) if you want to have the approximate method.
Once twrp is released, I bet around the beginning of Mai, you will be able to install it using Odin (breaks knox, s pay, etc)
From there you'll be able to flash whatever you want (magisk, SuperSU, etc)
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Although I just stumbled over this:
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Finally, the Exynos 8895 also includes what Samsung is calling an “enhanced security sub-system with a separate security processing unit” for use with user authentication, mobile payments, and the like. Based on Samsung’s description this sounds a heck of a lot like Apple’s Secure Enclave, which would be a very welcome development, as in Apple’s case it has made their phones a lot harder to break into.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11149/...-8895-soc-10nm
yeah, saw on their website that encryption layers are going to be a lot stronger. I still think it'll be cracked. It's a large enough phone. just might take longer than normal.
Even root on Verizon's locked bootloader?
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Yea root not enough for me, also need unlocked bootloader
geez the phones not even out yet. Gotta give the devs time to get there hands on the phone, then time to actually find a way to root it.
Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?
I bought this phone knowing it's going to be at least a year before at minimum root being achieved
if at all ,so I'm not getting my hopes up at all
This phone might be the straw the breaks the developers backs
I only needed a rooted phone for ARU unchained anyway ,but since the area51 got it to work unrooted
I can afford to wait
The Phone Company said:
Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates.
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What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…
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I hear you, preference I guess, I just like being up to date. I find that sometimes you are unable to use certain features without the updates.
I have the note 4 myself, and the only update that was a problem with that phone was MM, you could not downgrade from it. I have the AT&T variant so, no root access, and the current temp root that they have listed on the forums is not viable because your only temp rooted on experimental testing firmware.
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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Thanks! Now I know.
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The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
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Haha, Buzby (as I call it) is the one INTRUSION I do NOT want!! Never asked for it, just forced upon us. This would be great, but I suspect the Phone already has Bixby embedded into it, what with all the hype (publicity for it) about it not functioning at launch I believe is a marketing ploy to bring attention to it. The part that is not being made available at launch is their end, nothing to do with needing an update for it to work (for those who blindly want it).
See, you watch, they will make such a big deal, like a major announcement when it is made to function and they "switch on their Bixby servers" it'll be posted all over the web like when the Note 7 fiasco (supposedly) happened.
Stop for second. And think. THINK. For yourself. That right there is invaluable advice. Bixby is not your friend.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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I use it also from my S7 Edge. Works just fine. I have the BT version of the Gear S3 tho. Pay dont work with international(the one on amazon) version of the S3.
It was just reported that OnePlus has been leaking a devtool by Qualcomm that can be used to root Qualcomm devices without unlocking the bootloader. It got me to wondering if it could somehow be used to obtain root on the Verizon version of the Pixel 2.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-root-access-backdoor/
It's not installed on the Pixel, as best I can determine, so no go.
Well yes...I wouldn't expect it to be installed on the Pixel by Google, but perhaps it can be sideloaded.
If it were to be installed on the Pixel, I think it would need to be given system write permissions, which I know is possible to some degree via ADB without root.
Am interested to see where this leads. It's probably a dead end but at least worth poking at.
I wonder if @jcase has any thoughts on this.
Krunk_Kracker said:
I wonder if @jcase has any thoughts on this.
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It was a development app, not anything new. It is specific to the device it was built for.
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It was a development app, not anything new. It is specific to the device it was built for.
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Welp, that settles that. I assumed that it was compatible with Qualcomm SoC's in general, and not device specific. Thanks!
It's not device specific in that sense, it's device specific in that unless it's pre-loaded with system privileges, you won't be able to side-load and use it for root.
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It's not device specific in that sense, it's device specific in that unless it's pre-loaded with system privileges, you won't be able to side-load and use it for root.
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Ahh, I see. Even if we got it on the Pixel 2, there's no way to give it the access that it needs. Gotcha.