MI4C - Weak GPS signal - Xiaomi Mi 4C

Hi,
I have a problem with my mi4c and GPS module.
I compared with redmi 1S a nd Samsung S3 and both of them have better GPS signal.
I have set High accuracy mode and applications has permission to gps.
Is there some ways to detect if my mi4c has defect on gps module?
I am not able to post images so I am posting only links
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There is comparesd redmi 1s with mi4c same location same time
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Doesn't seem to be a problem, connecting to 11 out of 13 satellites is pretty good.

Well it looks like in open are it is not so much problem, but signal is more weak if you compare to another phones.
When I move to center of town it is not very hard to establish gps connection. (I am ingress player and this is important for me)
Can you tell me why Redmi 1S has stronger values even if this is older model and with MTK chipset?
I can try in a week go to town center and try to make some screenshots compared with Redmi 1S and link to google maps or can you give me some advice how to detect what is wrong.... like compare with another mi4c?

Yeah I found out that too... compared to my previous phone (Moto G 1st gen) Mi4c has a weaker GPS reception and causing longer GPS lock.
I'm on Mokee ROM now since I can't stand MIUI and GPS is worse than on MIUI. I managed to make it a bit better by using faster gps apps and gps.conf from MIUI. Also try using GPS status & toolbox app, if that doesn't help at least you got a status notification when the GPS active.

So it looks like mi4c has generally weaker GPS and it is not software or hardware defect, but "feature" from vendor?

I'm under sMIUI and first time GPS lock was very long, but ever since that, it locks in just 1-2 seconds.

Today I was on a trip with car and trying GPS fix...
I recorded video of the screen and very often GPS fix was lost or it was inaccurate.
Video: http://uloz.to/xkEFhqQo/mi4c-mp4
As you can see on the video GPS is useless, I am starting to be disapointed of this model
Route on google maps is here: https://www.google.cz/maps/dir/Zast...3e0!2m2!1d16.3631011!2d49.1879961!1m0!3e0!5i2

Is it possible that the GPS on your unit is defective?
It wasn't that bad on mine. I'm using my phone to track my ride using Strava and the record shows spot on position.

Its really bad on mine. Tried sMIUI, TS CM 12.1 and TS CM 13. Looks like we are doomed

I'm getting awful GPS signal. I connect to 8/13 satellites but my position isn't precise at all -- error of 2.50 km, that's not good at all.
I tried using it today during a car trip and GPS signal would not update.
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What could be done to better the situation?
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I'm also with this problem because of Xiaomi not corrected this I am not playing Pokémon go
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The GPS is weaker than on my Huawei P8 Lite indeed. Haven't really tested it, but signal strength is a bit worse.

Same here. Rarely get less than 30 feet GPS location

This may sound weird, but my GPS actually works pretty well, but ONLY if I disable all NTP_server=xxx.pool.ntp.org listings in gps.conf. Earlier my phone refused to find any gps satellites, but now that I have all NTP_servers disabled (including the test server...time.gpsonextra.net), everything's working like a charm (this with Mokee ROM).

sbasil said:
This may sound weird, but my GPS actually works pretty well, but ONLY if I disable all NTP_server=xxx.pool.ntp.org listings in gps.conf. Earlier my phone refused to find any gps satellites, but now that I have all NTP_servers disabled (including the test server...time.gpsonextra.net), everything's working like a charm (this with Mokee ROM).
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Yes it´s weard, but that´s the solution for that phone. That fixed my GPS! Thanks so much! Just deleted everthing with NTP and now GPS works like a charm. Never worked so fast and precise.

Voodoojonny said:
Yes it´s weard, but that´s the solution for that phone. That fixed my GPS! Thanks so much! Just deleted everthing with NTP and now GPS works like a charm. Never worked so fast and precise.
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Awesome! I'm glad if it solved your GPS issues. It's still not the most powerful GPS out there, but at least it works.

GPS is definitely weaker than other devices indoors. Outdoors is okay. This app helped me get a faster lock in MIUI 8.05 stable:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.fastergps

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GPS bluetooth Dongle

After trying every rom, modem and so on and so on... i got damn sick of it and went to the store and grabbed myself an Blue-GPS-S3 with SIRSTAR III supporting 20 channels...
You know.. the difference of gps quality is shocking. 12 sattelites at good performance and unbelievably stable. Navigation for four hours straight and not ONE mistake or recalculating required... amazing.
My advise is... get one for those 20 euros and stop wasting your time on trying to get your gps to work.. cause on top of this.. using bluetooth uses less battery then using internal gps asfar i noticed.
Hope this helps someone making this step, you do lose being able to see gps status in navigations progs but Sygic Aura + CoPilot worked flawless, il make an list of working apps
[update]
Okay drove over 800km in two days and what a trip and for once.... yes for once i didnt feel stressed about my galaxy abandoning me somewhere, altought i must admit my gps has not the greatest name and reputation it did its work excellent no matter where i came.
Some info.
APPS:
Bluetooth GPS mouse = GREAT. worked flawless with my external GPS
Bluetooth GPS Provider i didnt have a chance to test with yet, i will soon and report about it. One thing i must add, it remembers your dongle/mouse/external gps and with its simple ugly widget you can quickly turn it on and let it connect with the dongle. unlike gps mouse you gotta open it and turn it on and choose dongle.
NAVIGATION:
Sygic Aura = working great, it was however required to switch GPS on first and wait 15-30 sec to make sure it had atleast 1 signal before starting aura navigation, else it wouldnt pick up the signal
CoPilot = just awesome, worked directly wether i loaded gps mouse after or before.
Google Navigation = no idea, I assume it works as google maps works to with it.
Waze = no idea, I still have to try it but as waze worked most flawless on internal gps i assume no problems at all with external gps
KNOWN PROBLEMS
Programs do not see the GPS status.. signal, altitude etc etc. weirdly enough the navigations work flawless and they do not complain about having no signal either.
SHOPS:
My shop does only send in the netherlands, however... mine is a Qtrek Blue GPS-S3 with a SIRFSTARIII chip. Basicly ANY bluetooth gps mouse works with your phone.
could you please give me a link to where you bought the item?
I've looked, but couldn't find cheap ones..
i got a co-pilot bluetooth gps unit £8 from amazon and its great. a bit tricky to set up but well worth it.
re
800km in two days.. man am i exausted but what the heck.. that thing works briljant! il update first post with info
Cheers. This is great to know. Too bad Amazon UK has horrible bluetooth GPS seller reputation. I will have to find one on ebay instead.
I use the Nokia LD-3W gps module and it is fantastic. Easy to set up (takes seconds). I use the bluetooth mouse with "bluetooth GPS provider" which is a free download from the market. Very accurate with google maps, copilot etc.
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sean2476 said:
I use the Nokia LD-3W gps module and it is fantastic. Easy to set up (takes seconds). I use the bluetooth mouse with "bluetooth GPS provider" which is a free download from the market. Very accurate with google maps, copilot etc.
Bluetooth GPS provider/ market
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Where did you buy this from? Amazon UK?
is it really helpful to use usb bluttooth
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Im using bluetooth gps now as its free and works great however it said that Sygic Aura wouldnt work due it doesnt support mock locations... bummer as its the best gps out there. however the Bluetooth gps mouse app does work with it but then again i noticed that application turns on internal gps... not sure wether it fakes that or actually turns on internal gps... guess only one way to find out. wait for a next trip

[Q] Snapdragon S4 unlock GLONASS ?

Hi, i am new here thefore i cant post in "One S Android Development"
I KNOW that (HTC one s)Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 has support for GLONASS. can it be unlock ?
anyone known what soundchip it got onboard also ?
Appreciate the help.
Are you sure it needs unlocking? Mine said on the box "Supports GPS/GLONASS". Not that I have any idea how to check.
Sent from my HTC One S using XDA
Download GPS test from the market.
Fire it up and see if you log any satellites numbered 65 to 88.
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My Htc one s, havnt arrive yet, i still waiting, i think it would come next week, then i can do the gps testing. It would be nice to hav a good gps.
I am using Samsung galaxy s1 and its worthless in sweden..
Btw i hope Snapdragon s4 get Wolfson audio chips
My HOS IS showing satelites number 69 and 71... are those GLONASS sats
Out of 15 satellites that I could see, 6 were #65 or over. Looks like GLONASS is working fine.
Edit: Just to clarify, I'm in Japan, but my phone came from the UK so is the European model (No One S for the poor Japanese, lol)
So it works completely transparently to the user and does not need special software or adjustments, it will just work by "supplementing" the accuracy reported through the GPS interface and therefore also every navigation software etc. will automatically benefit from it?
That is kinda cool if its the case.
This is going to be GREAT for once i can use "GPS" correctly in sweden, anyone knowns more about the Sound chips onboard the S4 ?
psych0t1c said:
So it works completely transparently to the user and does not need special software or adjustments, it will just work by "supplementing" the accuracy reported through the GPS interface and therefore also every navigation software etc. will automatically benefit from it?
That is kinda cool if its the case.
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Yup, looks like it. There is no separate setting to "Enable GPS" / "Enable GLONASS". Although rather than being transparent to the user, it is more like hidden from the user. I guess the average user neither knows nor cares about GLONASS, as long as the thing shows them where they are on the map.
I do not get satellites > 28, but total 22 visible and 14 in use.
Don't know if GPS or GLONASS - but 22 are a lot
My HOS consistently sees ~17-21 even when indoors although while indoors I get no GPS lock even though GPS Test says that it uses ~5 satelites. But once I take it to a window it gets a good lock immediatly.
My old Desire and my TF101 only sees ~4-5 when doing the same test. So it seems that the HOS really are using GLONASS too.
Yes they do. With GPS only I never had a situation where I could "see" more than 6-8 sats at once with a mobile and not all of them had a fix/lock because the signal was too weak (only once supposedly had 9, reported by an Audi in-car satnav with dedicated external antenna, but I am not sure if that was fixed sats or just the visible ones). I think as of now I think there are less than 30 functional sats in orbit globally and the GPS architecture hovers around an amount of 32-36 sats maximum (with higher coverage of landmasses and lower coverage on the oceans).
Also, GLONASS will be very beneficial to anyone in the upper northern hemispere, and lower southern hemispheres as the system is of course globally active, but due to sat orbit inclination and distance (orbit heigth) it allows a better coverage of the regions closer to the polar regions, while GPS seem to be more designed to cover the "middle ground" and also have a lower orbit.
And when the US went to war in the middle east, I think I have read about some of the satellites being repositioned to give a better signal feed to the troops and equipment in that area, therefore automatically neglecting the rest of the world a little bit.
This is a really good feature I did not even read about in the reviews prior to purchasing. I pity the folks with the One X who don't have that... It will double satnav usability and accuracy even in less than optimal conditions (cities with high buildings covering satellite line of sight etc.)

Question GPS Problem Joying JY-UL128N2 Android 6

Hello to all. I have a big problem with my unit's GPS signal. I have tried various firmware with Android 6 and various MCUs but always with the same result. My problem is that randomly, after hooking up the GPS signal, the signal is lost and no longer hooked. The bars in the GPS screen are not active and do not even activate with a good position. I have read about other forums on this issue, but no solution has been found. I do not think it's in the HW problem, maybe some of the SW crashes and do not recover.
Thanks for anyone who can help me.
killerpiller said:
Hello to all. I have a big problem with my unit's GPS signal. I have tried various firmware with Android 6 and various MCUs but always with the same result. My problem is that randomly, after hooking up the GPS signal, the signal is lost and no longer hooked. The bars in the GPS screen are not active and do not even activate with a good position. I have read about other forums on this issue, but no solution has been found. I do not think it's in the HW problem, maybe some of the SW crashes and do not recover.
Thanks for anyone who can help me.
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I tried to disable two cores and lower the CPU frequency to 900Mhz with Kernel Adiutor (ROOT), I managed to get to a 60 degree centigrade temperature, believing the problem was temperature but the GPS problem reappears.
killerpiller said:
I tried to disable two cores and lower the CPU frequency to 900Mhz with Kernel Adiutor (ROOT), I managed to get to a 60 degree centigrade temperature, believing the problem was temperature but the GPS problem reappears.
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Have you checked your GPS cable? It could be (partially) broken somewhere internally. When driving it might start to swing and loose connection. Please try with the cable in your hand and make gentle bends over the cable length. See if you loose signal.
surfer63 said:
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Have you checked your GPS cable? It could be (partially) broken somewhere internally. When driving it might start to swing and loose connection. Please try with the cable in your hand and make gentle bends over the cable length. See if you loose signal.
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I lose connection even when the car is off and stops, without movement. It does not seem like a cable problem, I was thinking of a problem with some service on Android that randomly interfere with GPS.
killerpiller said:
I lose connection even when the car is off and stops, without movement. It does not seem like a cable problem, I was thinking of a problem with some service on Android that randomly interfere with GPS.
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Carjoying support advised me to check this out.
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I was suggested to verify that the GPS slot has 3.2 voltage.
killerpiller said:
Hello to all. I have a big problem with my unit's GPS signal. I have tried various firmware with Android 6 and various MCUs but always with the same result. My problem is that randomly, after hooking up the GPS signal, the signal is lost and no longer hooked. The bars in the GPS screen are not active and do not even activate with a good position. I have read about other forums on this issue, but no solution has been found. I do not think it's in the HW problem, maybe some of the SW crashes and do not recover.
Thanks for anyone who can help me.
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FYI: The gps is on the SoM, not the mainboard. That means that the MCU has absolutely no relevance to it.
Is there a solution found for this? Is it really caused by the 3.2V?
Can you tell me about the fix? I have the same problem on erisin unit for e46, sometimes it works i have signal, sometimes no signal... And it stay with no signal untill the car is off for 2-3 hours, from where shoud i start?
I have this same problem but on a brand new Joying Android 10 unit.
TheOtherLeft said:
I have this same problem but on a brand new Joying Android 10 unit.
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Send it back.

Flaky GPS

Hi guys
I recently bought a "Hizpo" mtcd PX3 2GB head unit. Generally it's working well except that gps sometimes gets Fix quickly, sometimes slowly and sometimes it never gets there at all.
Weirdly, sometimes it sees any 8 satellites but still can't get a fix.
I see this in malaysk and stock roms and had resorted to using a Bluetooth gps for a while.
I have swapped the antenna for a new one (magnetic type) - it is maybe a little better but still not reliable.
I've measured 2.7v on the gps socket - seems a little low when the antennas nominally need 3 or 3.2 - maybe they're not being amplified properly?
I've read that some people have had to open and resolder the gps connector on to the board when it has a poor connection - I'm reluctant to do this but may need to.
Any suggestions for solving this would be appreciated - it's driving me a bit nuts.
My only thoughts right now are to shift the antenna above the dash and see if that solves it - or open up the unit and resolder the connector.
Try using "Faster GPS" ( https://apkpure.com/fastergps/org.fastergps )
With this app my GPS has improved a lot !!
Once the app is launched, you must specify your continent and your country.
I hope this can help you
Senorclean said:
Hi guys
I recently bought a "Hizpo" mtcd PX3 2GB head unit. Generally it's working well except that gps sometimes gets Fix quickly, sometimes slowly and sometimes it never gets there at all.
Weirdly, sometimes it sees any 8 satellites but still can't get a fix.
I see this in malaysk and stock roms and had resorted to using a Bluetooth gps for a while.
I have swapped the antenna for a new one (magnetic type) - it is maybe a little better but still not reliable.
I've measured 2.7v on the gps socket - seems a little low when the antennas nominally need 3 or 3.2 - maybe they're not being amplified properly?
I've read that some people have had to open and resolder the gps connector on to the board when it has a poor connection - I'm reluctant to do this but may need to.
Any suggestions for solving this would be appreciated - it's driving me a bit nuts.
My only thoughts right now are to shift the antenna above the dash and see if that solves it - or open up the unit and resolder the connector.
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apollo1976 said:
Try using "Faster GPS" ( https://apkpure.com/fastergps/org.fastergps )
With this app my GPS has improved a lot !!
Once the app is launched, you must specify your continent and your country.
I hope this can help you
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Thanks - I've just installed TopNTP which seems to do much the same thing - I'll see how it goes.
How it is now?
I often have problem like that- my px5 unit see the satellites but I takes couple minutes to get fix, why it's happen like that?
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I often have problem like that- my px5 unit see the satellites but I takes couple minutes to get fix, why it's happen like that?View attachment 4632735
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I think it's the system's fault. No or bad gps.conf file. Having an internet connection and a properly configured file, the data necessary to start determining the position is retrieved much faster. The program must download the so-called data from GPS satellites "ephemeris" or "ephemeris". They contain information about the orbits, times and other data that accurately determine the position of the satellites. If you have correctly configured gps.conf file, you download these data online. On the phone without internet, the "fix" catches about 50 seconds. with internet enabled, grabs after 8 seconds. The GPS Status application allows you to force the data to be downloaded manually, so-called A-GPS data. But it would be best to properly configure the gps.conf file and place it in the / etc directory. I just do not know how to save data in the system directory / etc without root? Maybe someone will tell me how to do it on not rooted device.
Some things to read:
https://rootzwiki.com/topic/28989-the-end-all-be-all-guide-to-your-gps/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481355

P30 GPS/Location Problem

Hi Everyone
I've had a Huawei P30 for about 3 months now and apparently I can't use the GPS. I have tried Google Maps
and Navigator and both only updates my location every few minutes.
I used GPS Status and according to it I only get 2 satellites IF I'm lucky. Most of the time I don't get any.
I tested GPS Status with another Huawei P Smart phone and it picks up about 10-15 satellites.
I have tried and checked everything except factory resetting the phone. Does anyone else
have this problem? Is there a fix?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
kingsushi001 said:
Hi Everyone
I've had a Huawei P30 for about 3 months now and apparently I can't use the GPS. I have tried Google Maps
and Navigator and both only updates my location every few minutes.
I used GPS Status and according to it I only get 2 satellites IF I'm lucky. Most of the time I don't get any.
I tested GPS Status with another Huawei P Smart phone and it picks up about 10-15 satellites.
I have tried and checked everything except factory resetting the phone. Does anyone else
have this problem? Is there a fix?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
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I used to use this app to check how many satellites I could see
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chartcross.gpstest
Also which case are you using, possible the case is blocking the GPS radio, try without a case
*Detection* said:
I used to use this app to check how many satellites I could see
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chartcross.gpstest
Also which case are you using, possible the case is blocking the GPS radio, try without a case
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I am using the case that came with the phone.
I tried the app you suggested, this is what I get:
https://youtu.be/QLYWeGv9xFE
First minute is without the case and second minute is with the case.
kingsushi001 said:
I am using the case that came with the phone.
I tried the app you suggested, this is what I get:
https://youtu.be/QLYWeGv9xFE
First minute is without the case and second minute is with the case.
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Actually seems slightly better with the case, it is locating you within 18m which isn't terrible but no lock
Indoors will obviously be worse, and cloudy days can cause problems too
Make sure you have all the high accuracy location settings enabled too, WiFi/BT (In settings search for "Scanning") and location high accuracy enabled in the location setting itself (Location access > Google location Accuracy)
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Actually seems slightly better with the case, it is locating you within 18m which isn't terrible but no lock
Indoors will obviously be worse, and cloudy days can cause problems too
Make sure you have all the high accuracy location settings enabled too, WiFi/BT (In settings search for "Scanning") and location high accuracy enabled in the location setting itself (Location access > Google location Accuracy)
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As seen in these images, all those settings are enabled
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Other things I have tried was disabling any and all power saving options. Even tried it on Performance Mode. Still the same issue.
The signal is much worse when driving. It literally only updates when I'm standing still.
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As seen in these images, all those settings are enabled
Other things I have tried was disabling any and all power saving options. Even tried it on Performance Mode. Still the same issue.
The signal is much worse when driving. It literally only updates when I'm standing still.
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Not having owned this phone very long I'm out of ideas of what else to try other than a reset now, and if it's still the same after a reset I'd return it as faulty and get a replacement, possible it's hardware related if the antenna is damaged
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Not having owned this phone very long I'm out of ideas of what else to try other than a reset now, and if it's still the same after a reset I'd return it as faulty and get a replacement, possible it's hardware related if the antenna is damaged
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So I first tried Safe Mode. Was a waste of time seeing as I can't use any app to test the gps.
After that I factory reset the phone. Unfortunately the issue persists. So guess I'll be sending
the phone back.
Thanks for all your help
kingsushi001 said:
So I first tried Safe Mode. Was a waste of time seeing as I can't use any app to test the gps.
After that I factory reset the phone. Unfortunately the issue persists. So guess I'll be sending
the phone back.
Thanks for all your help
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Good luck hope the replacement works properly :good:
I have had very similar, and very strange issue on my new Oneplus 7. In my case (probably) helps when I switched to another SIM card and next come back to my original one.
*Detection* said:
Good luck hope the replacement works properly :good:
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what happened, im having the same issue after screen replacement

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