iPod Nano replacement? - General Questions and Answers

Hi folks - I have one of the square ipod nanos (6th gen) and I use it all the time but it is the last remaining Apple product I have and it's the only reason I still am stuck using crappy iTunes. Is there any kind of tiny Android device that would be similar in size but that would run Google Play Music so I can scrap my iTunes?
I know you can sync from iTunes to Google Play Music but it works very poorly and if I build playlists in Play Music there's no way to push them into iTunes.

slap_shot_12 said:
Hi folks - I have one of the square ipod nanos (6th gen) and I use it all the time but it is the last remaining Apple product I have and it's the only reason I still am stuck using crappy iTunes. Is there any kind of tiny Android device that would be similar in size but that would run Google Play Music so I can scrap my iTunes?
I know you can sync from iTunes to Google Play Music but it works very poorly and if I build playlists in Play Music there's no way to push them into iTunes.
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There's nothing that small. My favorite mp3 player was my Sansa Clip Zip, but it met with an unfortunate fate, and replacements (since it's discontinued) are absurdly expensive, and the newer iterations aren't getting good reviews.
I admit I do love iPods' interface and functionality (I have a 3rd gen Nano and a 160gb Classic), but there's no denying how much ass iTunes sucks.
I just picked up a Sandisk 128gb microSD card (for $40!), and will be using it my my Galaxy S4. Even though I don't consider my S4 to be my primary device, it's the one I keep the SIM card in and use as my internet server. That job used to belong to my Galaxy Light, which, while a POS, its small size worked great in that regard. I've been pondering getting an S4 Mini to use instetead for this purpose. It's small, thin, and very light, and with decent enough hardware to do what you need. The AT&T version is rootable, so you can install sound mods if needed. It's not iPod Nano small, but this or something like it might be the best choice for an Android music/media player.

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[Q] [Newbie] ipod touch alternative?

My brother-in-law thinks he wants an ipod touch. I would like to discourage his use of locked-down apple products.
Basically he wants a wi-fi only pda with excellent music player and web-browsing capabilities. Should be memory expandable via sd or similar. Not sure how much he needs the calendar/todo/contacts...
I would add the following hardware requirements: nice, reasonably priced (i.e. cheaper than ipod), with good xda-forum rom support. Used and refurbished is fine, although new would be great as well.
I was thinking about a new android tablet, but he says he wants something smaller, to fit in a pocket.
My experience with this site is with my smartphones, so I am not sure where to start looking for wi-fi only recommendations. Please be gentle with my ignorance.
Thanks!
I have an ipaq 210 that now has dedicated pmp duties. It doesn't have much support here on xda, but there is a decent community on brighthand:
http://forum.brighthand.com/hp-ipaq-210-enterprise-handheld/
Install a media player, such as nitrogen, and tell him to buy a big cf card and sd card.
well i use my player only for music.. it doesnt have wifi or any webbrowser..
but im using a cowon s9. freakin best **** i ever used to hear music, just amazing quality!! the ipod or the zune is nothing against this!!
but if he really needs a player with wifi.. he should probably go for a zune player, looks cooler and is just cooler than any other apple ****
probably u can browse through the homepage of cowon, maybe u find a good player with webbrowser.. all their players are just awsome..
www.cowon.com
the players of them doesnt need any other programm like itunes.. u just drag and drop ur files like to a extern hdd or memory stick
Well naturally if your gonna pay those prices why not just get a nice WM or Android phone. Other then that check out Zunes, and Archos makes some ipody things.
But for what your looking for! I would get a Dell 51v PDA. You can get em for 40-50 on ebay now and they rock. Check up on the stats on this badboy. I used to carry one before smartphones were really good. Big touch screen, graphics accelerator, runs on WM so you have TCMP, Core, Mortplayer, etc... Wifi, BT, CF, SDIO, etc.. I'm about to make some scanners for garage saleing and this is turned out to be the best PDA for that purpose. I loved mine.
Android phone. I wish there was an Android MP3 player, because that would just be sick.
get an lg incite. Really. that is what I use for my youtube/mp3/light web browsing. it will support up to a 32gb sd card. replaceable battery headphone jack wifi bluetooth and its a pretty good phone. also you can get them for under $60 on ebay (I hate ebay).
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Agree with the cowon audio, they can't be beat. However, I would avoid archos completely, unless you can get one for next to nothing
There is Sony Walkman, Microsoft Zune HD and several another music players. However, nothing is perfect as the Apple iPod Touch in terms touch sensitivity and number of applications.
Samsung Mondi, any of the 4.3" Smart Q devices, Archos 5,
Dark Sorrow, I own a D2. I would not EVER recommend Cowon products until they have rockbox ported. Sound quality most people don't care about (I do obviously), the software is some of the worst I have ever used, and I have a Windows Mobile phone. I dumped it in lieu of my rockboxed iPod mini (went back actually). Any sound quality that Cowon could formerly charge huge amounts for is beaten soundly by a cheap refurbished Sansa Clip(+), something with decent stock software as well as full (but crash prone) rockbox support.
iPod touch 1G 8-16GB go for 50-70.
I don't see the problem with the touch.
A Zune HD 32GB can be had for around 130 refurbished.
I think he would be happier with an iPod touch. It has a better browser (despite crappier hardware), games, and applications, and is easy to use.
Definitely not an Archos 5, its too big, and at that price might as well buy two iPod touches.
So far I've bashed everything but haven't given suggestions.
Droid Eris sounds like something that would fit in your criteria.
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Dark Sorrow, I own a D2. I would not EVER recommend Cowon products until they have rockbox ported. Sound quality most people don't care about (I do obviously), the software is some of the worst I have ever used, and I have a Windows Mobile phone. I dumped it in lieu of my rockboxed iPod mini (went back actually). Any sound quality that Cowon could formerly charge huge amounts for is beaten soundly by a cheap refurbished Sansa Clip(+), something with decent stock software as well as full (but crash prone) rockbox support.
iPod touch 1G 8-16GB go for 50-70.
I don't see the problem with the touch.
A Zune HD 32GB can be had for around 130 refurbished.
I think he would be happier with an iPod touch. It has a better browser (despite crappier hardware), games, and applications, and is easy to use.
Definitely not an Archos 5, its too big, and at that price might as well buy two iPod touches.
So far I've bashed everything but haven't given suggestions.
Droid Eris sounds like something that would fit in your criteria.
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the flash UI is amazing, i dont know ur problem )
anyway.. i dont need userfriendlines, im a freak that just wants quality, and ipod quality suxx badass, u know that
Have you tried the Sansa Clips? They're much better (I prefer buttons to touchscreen, only good thing is you can skip to any place in the song, but thats not what I usually do anyways). I meant the actual Cowon firmware, everything is really non-intuitive. If they hired some good software professionals they would actually have a solid device. I didn't get the S9 since it wasn't microusb,
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Have you tried the Sansa Clips? They're much better (I prefer buttons to touchscreen, only good thing is you can skip to any place in the song, but thats not what I usually do anyways). I meant the actual Cowon firmware, everything is really non-intuitive. If they hired some good software professionals they would actually have a solid device. I didn't get the S9 since it wasn't microusb,
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i tried the sansas, yes they are cool, but quality is crap compared to cowons devices. im talking about music quality, not design, or whatever
it doesnt matter for me if it looks cool or is easy to use, the music has to sound awsome
probably the firmware isnt that awsome for everyone, but the fact that its all flash opens many many new possibilities
but anyway, the sansa clip is too small, and i hate non-touchscreen players xD
I have had a Zune 80gb (not HD), iPod classic (now 64gb Touch), and briefly the Archos 5 Android Tablet with Android. Other than the Archos, I would say that they all have their good points. The Archos was a complete fail for me. I couldn't charge the unit while using it, it would not connect to my home wifi, and the screen felt too soft (resistive, not capacitive). I would say that if you want more storage than 32gb, currently I would go with iPod Touch (I see Zune has already released their 64gb version). Seeing this, I would recommend going with the one that has the screen size you like.
I do find it funny that (over at an iPod Touch forum I frequent) the very people that automatically denounce anything ro do with the Zune HD all but salivate when they see a Zune HD theme for their iPod Touch. But then, I am easily amused...and distracted. What was I saying?...
btw dratini, u know that u have a dragonir as avatar and not a dratini? xD
Yeah I thought Dratini wasn't too pretty, in synthetic sound tests the Clip and Cowon have no sound quality problems, so I don't know why you didn't like it.
With features like MP enhance and the soundstage settings for the Cowon though, it does sound better, but at stock they sound pretty much the same, except the Cowon is a bit colder and more analytical (I like this sound, but the UI is too bad for me to use), the Clip is more compressed but people rarely notice that unless they have expensive headphones.
Wish they would port Rockbox for the D2 already, its been unstable for years now.
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With features like MP enhance and the soundstage settings for the Cowon though, it does sound better, but at stock they sound pretty much the same
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thats what i mean. i hate stock settings, and the cowon is one of the only players that got so awsome settings, wich make the soundquality that much better..
i just set my s9 to stock settings, lol it sounds so cheap xDD *switches back*
and im using expensive earplugs, u know >.<

Buying music online

Where do you buy music, im used to buying CDs and ripping them to the computer and from there to my devices. I herd there is like Amazon, Itunes and Google what do you guys recommend?
The 5 bucks for an album thing from Google was great, got a few decent bands caught up with. Do find it odd how much is missing from Google Music though, end up jumping to Amazon, buying, downloading/reuploading to have it all integrated. I like the option to download both Amazon and Google.
Not encountered anything I want that's /not/ on those 2 sites.
ITunes I've stayed away from, originally it was because of the DRM, but now I just find iTunes a mess so avoid installing it on my main machines. I'd still have the issue of downloading/reuploading to make use of in google music, so if I had to, I'd not mind.
So I guess it all comes down to 'what's the cheapest, if it's there, get it' download the mp3 and not worry about it again.
For streaming, Spotify rocks. Also worth investigating.
I'm still buying CDs (but only LPs), rip them to FLAC and put them on my Phone and Transformer (Music converts automatically to MP3).
I use Amazon to buy single releases. Didn't have any problems till now.

Partition Removal

I noticed in the USA version (@3:50- Rogers HTC One X Review on Youtube) that there is a partition on the HTC One X of ~2GB for Apps.
Does anyone think that 1) this partition can be removed, and 2) that more space can be made available rather than the messily >10gb on this phone?
These questions are basically my make or break for HTC and my upgrade. I may end up waiting of the SIII if I can't at least have 12GB of storage space made available.
What 12gb, this phone has 32gb of internal memory and 26gb was user accessible. Do you.think that you posted this in one s section or what? This is one x And dev thread, post this kind of questions in Q&A thread from the next time.
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Keep in mind you have the international HSPA version.. I am talking about the ATT LTE One X releasing on May 6th.
Watch the video i mentioned
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What 12gb, this phone has 32gb of internal memory and 26gb was user accessible. Do you.think that you posted this in one s section or what? This is one x And dev thread, post this kind of questions in Q&A thread from the next time.
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Umm, this is in the One XL General thread. So he's right.
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I noticed in the USA version (@3:50- Rogers HTC One X Review on Youtube) that there is a partition on the HTC One X of ~2GB for Apps.
Does anyone think that 1) this partition can be removed, and 2) that more space can be made available rather than the messily >10gb on this phone?
These questions are basically my make or break for HTC and my upgrade. I may end up waiting of the SIII if I can't at least have 12GB of storage space made available.
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it's make or break over 2gb?? getting a little picky are we not? i see a lot of peoples points on the memory, some people just need it either for movies or just files in general.
i'm grandfathered in to unlimited, i have wi-fi at home, work, and college to boot, i have a tablet with 48gb and a full-size usb to slap my thumb drives into, and a great cloud setup via dropbox, google music, splashtop, and photobucket. i simply have more storage then i know what to do with...
i feel for those who have to skimp by deleting this and that just to have room.
here are some links to some good devices that are cheap and would make you a little happier, honestly, if your upgrading, i would sell the phone and keep something like an atrix around, you could afford all this stuff and a decent year old phone for the price of a one x.
acer a500 tablet: 16gb, sdcard, full usb, 10.1" 1280x800, tegra 2 ~$230
32gb micro sdcard ~$22-30
32gb thumb drive ~$19-22
total=~$275
movies are better, ps3 controllers work perfectly, a wireless mouse is fine, battery lasts me 3 days, you can turn it into a laptop, has icecream 4.0 roms, and on and on...
i'm mean seriously, if you want entertainment be smart. you don't need the top of the line phone to have fun, try something that is here now and cheap.
but what ever, that was the longest 2 cents i think i have ever wrote...and i doubt anybody will listen lol.
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it's make or break over 2gb?? getting a little picky are we not? i see a lot of peoples points on the memory, some people just need it either for movies or just files in general.
i'm grandfathered in to unlimited, i have wi-fi at home, work, and college to boot, i have a tablet with 48gb and a full-size usb to slap my thumb drives into, and a great cloud setup via dropbox, google music, splashtop, and photobucket. i simply have more storage then i know what to do with...
i feel for those who have to skimp by deleting this and that just to have room.
here are some links to some good devices that are cheap and would make you a little happier, honestly, if your upgrading, i would sell the phone and keep something like an atrix around, you could afford all this stuff and a decent year old phone for the price of a one x.
acer a500 tablet: 16gb, sdcard, full usb, 10.1" 1280x800, tegra 2 ~$230
32gb micro sdcard ~$22-30
32gb thumb drive ~$19-22
total=~$275
movies are better, ps3 controllers work perfectly, a wireless mouse is fine, battery lasts me 3 days, you can turn it into a laptop, has icecream 4.0 roms, and on and on...
i'm mean seriously, if you want entertainment be smart. you don't need the top of the line phone to have fun, try something that is here now and cheap.
but what ever, that was the longest 2 cents i think i have ever wrote...and i doubt anybody will listen lol.
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While your thoughts are sound, you'll never win this arguement with everyone, myself included!
Cloud storage is great, but only works if your always connected. I am an airline pilot. I need local storage on my phone for photos, music, docs etc and cannot use the cloud while literally in the cloud.
You know what I can't wait for? For my airline to get free, unlimited inflight wifi. Then my arguement becomes mute and 16gb on a phone will be more than enough. Before you say you wouldn't want your Pilots using wifi, we could update our weather with maps, notams, etc far easier with tablets etc than the airplanes equipement. I know I'm going off topic here, but while most (not all) of my First Officers use ipads, I prefer my galaxy tab. When they see maps and approach plates on the wider screen instead of that unnatural squarish ipad screen, they all ask me "what's that!!!!".
At any rate, different people have different needs. I use dropbox, google docs for non aviation and union stuff, google + photo upload, I live in Canada so no google music but I prefer to have my music locally. Videos, whole dif matter, a 15 minute hi def video can be close to a gig, it sucks to have a great phone with a great camera and before taking video you might have to see if you have the space!
You know an easy solution? The Iphone comes in three storage solutions, so should the one series. Cloud enough for you, buy the cheap 16gb version, partial cloud type of guy? 32gb it is, music and video nut? Here's an expensive 64gb variant for you! Can anyone argue that is a bad idea for a company trying to turn their fortunes around? If the galaxy s3 outsells the one series in North America, their handicaped storage will be one reason (pun intended) why.
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While your thoughts are sound, you'll never win this arguement with everyone, myself included!
Cloud storage is great, but only works if your always connected. I am an airline pilot. I need local storage on my phone for photos, music, docs etc and cannot use the cloud while literally in the cloud.
You know what I can't wait for? For my airline to get free, unlimited inflight wifi. Then my arguement becomes mute and 16gb on a phone will be more than enough. Before you say you wouldn't want your Pilots using wifi, we could update our weather with maps, notams, etc far easier with tablets etc than the airplanes equipement. I know I'm going off topic here, but while most (not all) of my First Officers use ipads, I prefer my galaxy tab. When they see maps and approach plates on the wider screen instead of that unnatural squarish ipad screen, they all ask me "what's that!!!!".
At any rate, different people have different needs. I use dropbox, google docs for non aviation and union stuff, google + photo upload, I live in Canada so no google music but I prefer to have my music locally. Videos, whole dif matter, a 15 minute hi def video can be close to a gig, it sucks to have a great phone with a great camera and before taking video you might have to see if you have the space!
You know an easy solution? The Iphone comes in three storage solutions, so should the one series. Cloud enough for you, buy the cheap 16gb version, partial cloud type of guy? 32gb it is, music and video nut? Here's an expensive 64gb variant for you! Can anyone argue that is a bad idea for a company trying to turn their fortunes around? If the galaxy s3 outsells the one series in North America, their handicaped storage will be one reason (pun intended) why.
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So we cant text and drive, but you can text, look at pictures and edit documents while you fly?
jmitr said:
You know an easy solution? The Iphone comes in three storage solutions, so should the one series. Cloud enough for you, buy the cheap 16gb version, partial cloud type of guy? 32gb it is, music and video nut? Here's an expensive 64gb variant for you! Can anyone argue that is a bad idea for a company trying to turn their fortunes around? If the galaxy s3 outsells the one series in North America, their handicaped storage will be one reason (pun intended) why.
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i fully agree with this, although it would probably end in a lawsuit.
all the flagships should have options and only be refreshed once a year, it's so silly how android makers have splintered the market just to have that extra feature that sells just that many more phones (looking at you samsung).
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So we cant text and drive, but you can text, look at pictures and edit documents while you fly?
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Lol!!!!!!!
Getting serious though, as Pilot's we have a "sterile cockpit" rule (most airlines are the same) when descending through 10,000'. That's usually the same time I select the seatbelt sign on (unless it's earlier due turbulence), so i'm putting away my toys the same time you are. The exception would be approach plates, alot of us use tablets for those nowadays.
Got to add, I love my phone / tablet combo. My phone alone replaced my phone, calculator, E6B, mp3 player, gameboy, camera and more. My tab replaced all my manuals, and approach plates, and no more library books in my bag. Some of those things are for overnights in the hotel btw. The ability to quickly check weather and other info anywhere, chat realtime with maintenance while sending pics etc etc and even 10 years ago seems like the dark ages!
Technology and gadgets......f*ck yeah!
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Lol!!!!!!!
Getting serious though, as Pilot's we have a "sterile cockpit" rule (most airlines are the same) when descending through 10,000'. That's usually the same time I select the seatbelt sign on (unless it's earlier due turbulence), so i'm putting away my toys the same time you are. The exception would be approach plates, alot of us use tablets for those nowadays.
Got to add, I love my phone / tablet combo. My phone alone replaced my phone, calculator, E6B, mp3 player, gameboy, camera and more. My tab replaced all my manuals, and approach plates, and no more library books in my bag. Some of those things are for overnights in the hotel btw. The ability to quickly check weather and other info anywhere, chat realtime with maintenance while sending pics etc etc and even 10 years ago seems like the dark ages!
Technology and gadgets......f*ck yeah!
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This is a great way to implement the new technology. Instead of carrying around 30 LBS of products, you now have two lightweight devices that do everything for you. Same goes for my job and countless others... but it always makes me happy to hear people taking advantage of them.

[Q] Advice on storage limitations

Hi All
I currently have a HTC Desire Z which I love ..... unfortunately my touchscreen intermittently becomes non-responsive in the middle and a factory reset didn't fix.
As part of a Product Replacement Plan Bell Canada will give me a HTC One S for 150$ ....
The HTC One S looks like a wonderful phone except for one head scratching unbelievable crippling ..... only 10GB of storage and no SD slot.
Unfortunately, this omission makes this phone a big step backwards from my Desire Z. Why? .... because my unlocked Froyo Desire Z with apps already does everything I want it to reasonably quickly and I can store all my music on it because I have a 32GB microSD card in it.
I don't want to spend hours figuring which tracks and photos I want to store locally on the phone. It becomes a nightmare of babysitting. With the Desire Z all I have to do is sync a few tracks here and there as I add them to my PC.
Is there any way to get around this limitation?
I have used Dropbox and the phone comes with 20Gig of Dropbox Storage, but really what good is that for music or even pictures? Is Dropbox so integrated with the OS that it is just like they are local except for a some lag. Otherwise how would I find tracks and play them in the music player. Would PowerAMP be able to catalog them? What about album art, playlists and lyrics? I can't see how any would work gracefully with Dropbox, even if it was integrated, as cataloging the tracks properly would mean accessing 32GB of on-line files, which would take days and cost a fortune.
I have already compressed my music to the minimum acceptable quality in OGG and it barely fits a 32GB card.
I think there already is a microSD card slot present in the HTC OneS ...... has anyone taken a shot at un-crippling it?
If it wasn't for this problem I would be more than happy with this phone, but the crippling seriously affects how I actually currently use my Desire Z.
What could have possibly be going through the designers minds to have a microSD card slot and disable it? I know SD storage is a major pain in Froyo because somewhere in the chain from APP programmer to Google Play market something is messed up because a lot of 3rd party apps cause SD card corruption, but I would have thought that would have got fixed by ICS.
If I wanted a 10GB phone with no expansion I would have bought an Iphone. HTC just removed one of the features that brought me to Android in the first place. I find it hard to believe that SD memory controller chip just wouldn't fit in the case. The only reason I can think of is that HTC wants to go back to the bad old days of renting content by forcing users on line to pay data and rental fees. But that doesn't make sense unless they are desperate to please carriers.
I will probably end up telling Bell to keep this phone unless somebody here has some advice or workaround.
The Samsung Galaxy IIIS might be an option but I am shy on Samsung because they used to be the worst cripplers. I had a Samsung SGH255 that wouldn't even let me set a jpg picture as a background unless the picture was taken with the phone it was so locked down. Those were the bad old days and I see removing SD storage as the first step back to those days.
First off, if you know you are asking a question(though this seems more of a statement than anything, please post in the question section.
I had g2/dz and this phone blows it out of the water.
I don't see why people feel the need to load so many gigs of music. It's not that hard to delete stuff you dont want and add stuff you do want
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Widrive is my solution. I keep almost everything backed on there.
It wouldn't bother me if the One S had half the storage it has. For me a phone with 150gbs of storage wouldn't be enough to house my music collection, and even if such a device were available and affordable there's no way I'd load all my library onto my phone.
That's what playlists are for.
In my case, my music, video, photo collection etc is on my NAS, and distributed around my network regardless of the rendering device, music station, tv, phone, MP3 player, etc. All I ask of my phone (or any device I want to play any media) is the ability to join my network and a client. I always have more than one or two of my many playlists stored locally for when I'm out and about, but if I'm pottering in the garden I can stream any playlist, album, whatever, whenever. It's easy, fast and it works. My music files stay safe, backed up and RAID 1 protected, my phone stays uncluttered.
It doesn't have to be NAS of course, it could an ordinary PC, the point is the mindset. A requirement for local storage will always end up in disappointment because your OGG and FLAC collections will always grow much faster than your ability to pay for devices with increase storage capacities with which to cope with them.
If you insist on vast amounts of local storage, good luck. But perhaps the HOS is not for you. I would instead save your money buy a cheap phone and spend the difference on a separate MP3 player.
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You can buy the HTC ONE S special edition, or ONE X \ ONE X+, and even GALAXY S3.
And yeah.. I have the same problem that you have - 16GB is not enough for me
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Sorry for posting in the wrong section .......
I am surprised people can't understand how luxurious my HTC Desire Z with PowerAMP is/was for music and why I don't want to give it up.
1) When all your music sits on a microSD card there is no maintenance of your mobile music whatsoever except to copy a new tracks over from your PC once and a while. No syncing, no copying files back and forth. There is no work and who wants more work. I don't want to have to babysit my music or sync new tracks in the morning trying to guess what I might want to listen to during the day.
2) Music choice becomes spontaneous when you have it all with you. I just pick up my Desire Z open Power AMP and all my music is already cataloged with album art. It takes 30sec to make a short playlist suited exactly to the mood I am in. Every time it is a new listening experience exactly tailored to my mood.
3) I have a home music system ..... my Desire Z is for playing music everywhere else. When your files are cataloged and local you can play them anywhere regardless of data usage or cell reception, even when you need to turn off data because of roaming charges.
4) 32GB cards are fairly cheap and 64GB and even 128GB cards are becoming available. Nothing on-line can even remotely compete with the speed and accessibility of them.
5) A dedicated music player is a waste of money for me because when I want it I probably won't have it because I don't want to lug it around. I lug a cell phone around because it is a necessary evil and it is very nice to automatically have a really good music player along for the ride.
If I could load up all my music to Dropbox and be able to seamlessly catalog and access it with PowerAMP just like the music was on a microSD card I would probably pay for 100GB of storage and be done with it. But as far as I can tell there is no on-line storage that can do this.
I wouldn't even consider this phone but it is the phone Bell wants to give to me as a replacement for my Desire Z. Before I fight with them I would really like to have HTC One S work for me because other than the limited storage it suits me just fine but alas there doesn't seem to be any solution.
Well looks like your getting a different phone then. I have 42 mp3 albums on my phone which I change when I'm bored with what's on it. Now taken into consideration that each album has 12 tracks (average) and run for 4 minutes each that's 33.6 hours of continuous music. Please explain to me why you could possibly need any more than that? Not to mention the extra workload with so many files.
Oh and I have ALOT on my sdcard but still have 2.5gb free. I think you need to understand that your buying a phone not a mass storage device to hold all your sh*t on. This phone is in my opinion outstanding, certainly the best phone I have ever owned and so what if it doesn't have an sd slot? It stills beats the snot out of most other phones on the market.
You make all the antediluvian arguments for having a separate music player then say you don't want to lug one round.
Take the HOS from your network provider sell it and buy another desire or somesuch. I'm not sure you are ready for this phone.
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I actually got my HTC One S in the mail.
Its beautifully designed and almost a work of art. For everything other than music it is a great phone. Yes it is fast and smooth but it really doesn't do anything that my Desire Z couldn't do with apps. ICS and Sense is getting pretty bloaty too.
For music it is utterly horribly crippled. How can HTC sell a music oriented phone and only give it 10GB storage? They make a phone that actually has a good audio quality and then they make it inferior to 2 year old technology by forcing you to synch files.
Does anyone actually like syncing files? It is a horrible waste of time and energy and there is always a good chance you won't have the song you want to listen to with you. When you have your whole collection with you all the time, you just scratch your head and wonder how you could have ever synched files.
HTC Desire Z with a microSD card - reach into your pocket and queue up the songs you feel like playing .... Done
HTC One S - wake up and try to remember to sych songs you think you might like to play, wait wait wait ... Error the tracks won't fit .... search through to find the files you wanted but must leave behind..... try syching again ...... leave for work. Later, reach into your pocket, but your mood isn't the same and you are missing what you would like to hear. Then you try to remember what you actually have on the device ..... then you give up and just pick something second best (or 3rd) because it happens to be there. Repeat 2-3 times a day.
I don't think the two experiences are even remotely similar. Wouldn't you rather just reach into your pocket and play what you want to hear? ...... that is 2 year old tech already mature and working and now there are 128GB cards so even a huge collection could be sampled down in OGG and it would fit.
For music nothing can come close to local storage, until data is unlimited and on-line files can be cataloged locally and transparently on the phone.
Can anyone really say they like leaving 1/2 their collection at home? There is no need to as long as a phone has a microSD slot. Even a cheap 32GB card is big enough because OGG is more than good enough for phone hardware.
The point of all this: an microSD slot is an essential aspect of Android .... no phone should be without one, especially one where they bothered to put Beats Audio on it. I switched to Android almost for that alone.
I don't understand your problem...But I know that 10gb is really not enough. So I suggest you to buy samsung galaxy s2/3, or htc one x+ or Iphone.
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can anyone point me to a non smartphone (no apps capabilities) that can play movies off an sd card, and has a music player?
im thinking along the lines of a samsung e3300 or something similar, but it needs to have movies option.
i need a simple backup phone that wont cost to much to buy (in the $20- $30 zone) so smartphones are out of the question.
Kobro said:
can anyone point me to a non smartphone (no apps capabilities) that can play movies off an sd card, and has a music player?
im thinking along the lines of a samsung e3300 or something similar, but it needs to have movies option.
i need a simple backup phone that wont cost to much to buy (in the $20- $30 zone) so smartphones are out of the question.
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Why not buying Chinese phone for a bit more like $50? That budget is not quite to watch movies..
There are a few smartphones for your budget, with some impressive specs even for that price point. Look for brands like K-Touch, PHICOMM, UTime, Thl, citric, CUBOT or JIAKE. Of course you don't have to expect any superb resolutions, crystal clear sound or fast navigation, but they'll surely play a video.
People, please read the entire question. i can't use a smartphone, for various reasons, so it has to be a non smartphone, preferably not even a touchscreen. im looking for the simplest phone that i can find that can play movies. for example, the samsung e3300 is a good example, except that it does not have movies support.
There are a bunch of old Sony Ericsson phones which can do the job and you can find them online on eBay etc. For example, W300, http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson-phones-f-19-0-p2.php.
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There are a bunch of old Sony Ericsson phones which can do the job and you can find them online on eBay etc. For example, W300, http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson-phones-f-19-0-p2.php.
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thanks, these are exactly what i was looking for!

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