Hi All
I currently have a HTC Desire Z which I love ..... unfortunately my touchscreen intermittently becomes non-responsive in the middle and a factory reset didn't fix.
As part of a Product Replacement Plan Bell Canada will give me a HTC One S for 150$ ....
The HTC One S looks like a wonderful phone except for one head scratching unbelievable crippling ..... only 10GB of storage and no SD slot.
Unfortunately, this omission makes this phone a big step backwards from my Desire Z. Why? .... because my unlocked Froyo Desire Z with apps already does everything I want it to reasonably quickly and I can store all my music on it because I have a 32GB microSD card in it.
I don't want to spend hours figuring which tracks and photos I want to store locally on the phone. It becomes a nightmare of babysitting. With the Desire Z all I have to do is sync a few tracks here and there as I add them to my PC.
Is there any way to get around this limitation?
I have used Dropbox and the phone comes with 20Gig of Dropbox Storage, but really what good is that for music or even pictures? Is Dropbox so integrated with the OS that it is just like they are local except for a some lag. Otherwise how would I find tracks and play them in the music player. Would PowerAMP be able to catalog them? What about album art, playlists and lyrics? I can't see how any would work gracefully with Dropbox, even if it was integrated, as cataloging the tracks properly would mean accessing 32GB of on-line files, which would take days and cost a fortune.
I have already compressed my music to the minimum acceptable quality in OGG and it barely fits a 32GB card.
I think there already is a microSD card slot present in the HTC OneS ...... has anyone taken a shot at un-crippling it?
If it wasn't for this problem I would be more than happy with this phone, but the crippling seriously affects how I actually currently use my Desire Z.
What could have possibly be going through the designers minds to have a microSD card slot and disable it? I know SD storage is a major pain in Froyo because somewhere in the chain from APP programmer to Google Play market something is messed up because a lot of 3rd party apps cause SD card corruption, but I would have thought that would have got fixed by ICS.
If I wanted a 10GB phone with no expansion I would have bought an Iphone. HTC just removed one of the features that brought me to Android in the first place. I find it hard to believe that SD memory controller chip just wouldn't fit in the case. The only reason I can think of is that HTC wants to go back to the bad old days of renting content by forcing users on line to pay data and rental fees. But that doesn't make sense unless they are desperate to please carriers.
I will probably end up telling Bell to keep this phone unless somebody here has some advice or workaround.
The Samsung Galaxy IIIS might be an option but I am shy on Samsung because they used to be the worst cripplers. I had a Samsung SGH255 that wouldn't even let me set a jpg picture as a background unless the picture was taken with the phone it was so locked down. Those were the bad old days and I see removing SD storage as the first step back to those days.
First off, if you know you are asking a question(though this seems more of a statement than anything, please post in the question section.
I had g2/dz and this phone blows it out of the water.
I don't see why people feel the need to load so many gigs of music. It's not that hard to delete stuff you dont want and add stuff you do want
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Widrive is my solution. I keep almost everything backed on there.
It wouldn't bother me if the One S had half the storage it has. For me a phone with 150gbs of storage wouldn't be enough to house my music collection, and even if such a device were available and affordable there's no way I'd load all my library onto my phone.
That's what playlists are for.
In my case, my music, video, photo collection etc is on my NAS, and distributed around my network regardless of the rendering device, music station, tv, phone, MP3 player, etc. All I ask of my phone (or any device I want to play any media) is the ability to join my network and a client. I always have more than one or two of my many playlists stored locally for when I'm out and about, but if I'm pottering in the garden I can stream any playlist, album, whatever, whenever. It's easy, fast and it works. My music files stay safe, backed up and RAID 1 protected, my phone stays uncluttered.
It doesn't have to be NAS of course, it could an ordinary PC, the point is the mindset. A requirement for local storage will always end up in disappointment because your OGG and FLAC collections will always grow much faster than your ability to pay for devices with increase storage capacities with which to cope with them.
If you insist on vast amounts of local storage, good luck. But perhaps the HOS is not for you. I would instead save your money buy a cheap phone and spend the difference on a separate MP3 player.
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You can buy the HTC ONE S special edition, or ONE X \ ONE X+, and even GALAXY S3.
And yeah.. I have the same problem that you have - 16GB is not enough for me
My reasoning
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My reasoning
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Sorry for posting in the wrong section .......
I am surprised people can't understand how luxurious my HTC Desire Z with PowerAMP is/was for music and why I don't want to give it up.
1) When all your music sits on a microSD card there is no maintenance of your mobile music whatsoever except to copy a new tracks over from your PC once and a while. No syncing, no copying files back and forth. There is no work and who wants more work. I don't want to have to babysit my music or sync new tracks in the morning trying to guess what I might want to listen to during the day.
2) Music choice becomes spontaneous when you have it all with you. I just pick up my Desire Z open Power AMP and all my music is already cataloged with album art. It takes 30sec to make a short playlist suited exactly to the mood I am in. Every time it is a new listening experience exactly tailored to my mood.
3) I have a home music system ..... my Desire Z is for playing music everywhere else. When your files are cataloged and local you can play them anywhere regardless of data usage or cell reception, even when you need to turn off data because of roaming charges.
4) 32GB cards are fairly cheap and 64GB and even 128GB cards are becoming available. Nothing on-line can even remotely compete with the speed and accessibility of them.
5) A dedicated music player is a waste of money for me because when I want it I probably won't have it because I don't want to lug it around. I lug a cell phone around because it is a necessary evil and it is very nice to automatically have a really good music player along for the ride.
If I could load up all my music to Dropbox and be able to seamlessly catalog and access it with PowerAMP just like the music was on a microSD card I would probably pay for 100GB of storage and be done with it. But as far as I can tell there is no on-line storage that can do this.
I wouldn't even consider this phone but it is the phone Bell wants to give to me as a replacement for my Desire Z. Before I fight with them I would really like to have HTC One S work for me because other than the limited storage it suits me just fine but alas there doesn't seem to be any solution.
Well looks like your getting a different phone then. I have 42 mp3 albums on my phone which I change when I'm bored with what's on it. Now taken into consideration that each album has 12 tracks (average) and run for 4 minutes each that's 33.6 hours of continuous music. Please explain to me why you could possibly need any more than that? Not to mention the extra workload with so many files.
Oh and I have ALOT on my sdcard but still have 2.5gb free. I think you need to understand that your buying a phone not a mass storage device to hold all your sh*t on. This phone is in my opinion outstanding, certainly the best phone I have ever owned and so what if it doesn't have an sd slot? It stills beats the snot out of most other phones on the market.
You make all the antediluvian arguments for having a separate music player then say you don't want to lug one round.
Take the HOS from your network provider sell it and buy another desire or somesuch. I'm not sure you are ready for this phone.
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Actually have the phone now
From the OP
I actually got my HTC One S in the mail.
Its beautifully designed and almost a work of art. For everything other than music it is a great phone. Yes it is fast and smooth but it really doesn't do anything that my Desire Z couldn't do with apps. ICS and Sense is getting pretty bloaty too.
For music it is utterly horribly crippled. How can HTC sell a music oriented phone and only give it 10GB storage? They make a phone that actually has a good audio quality and then they make it inferior to 2 year old technology by forcing you to synch files.
Does anyone actually like syncing files? It is a horrible waste of time and energy and there is always a good chance you won't have the song you want to listen to with you. When you have your whole collection with you all the time, you just scratch your head and wonder how you could have ever synched files.
HTC Desire Z with a microSD card - reach into your pocket and queue up the songs you feel like playing .... Done
HTC One S - wake up and try to remember to sych songs you think you might like to play, wait wait wait ... Error the tracks won't fit .... search through to find the files you wanted but must leave behind..... try syching again ...... leave for work. Later, reach into your pocket, but your mood isn't the same and you are missing what you would like to hear. Then you try to remember what you actually have on the device ..... then you give up and just pick something second best (or 3rd) because it happens to be there. Repeat 2-3 times a day.
I don't think the two experiences are even remotely similar. Wouldn't you rather just reach into your pocket and play what you want to hear? ...... that is 2 year old tech already mature and working and now there are 128GB cards so even a huge collection could be sampled down in OGG and it would fit.
For music nothing can come close to local storage, until data is unlimited and on-line files can be cataloged locally and transparently on the phone.
Can anyone really say they like leaving 1/2 their collection at home? There is no need to as long as a phone has a microSD slot. Even a cheap 32GB card is big enough because OGG is more than good enough for phone hardware.
The point of all this: an microSD slot is an essential aspect of Android .... no phone should be without one, especially one where they bothered to put Beats Audio on it. I switched to Android almost for that alone.
I don't understand your problem...But I know that 10gb is really not enough. So I suggest you to buy samsung galaxy s2/3, or htc one x+ or Iphone.
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i've always wondered about this because of all the posts. its kind of a rant just forwarning
i understand that the US is in a recession so excuse me if i generalize, but why use the fuze as a substitute carpc? i understand people spend good money on a pda but why not just build a carpc.
you get more functionality with more upgradability and bigger screen
a budget inspired carpc can be had very cheap even brand new is still cheaper than buying a unbranded unlocked touch pro.
just to give you guys an idea i've built mine under 500 it would have been mid 300 but i'm an audio guy so i had to get a legit sound card and went with a 8" vs 7" and keep in mind this is brand new prices. you dont even need a sound card
8" touchscreen ~150
all-in-one pc ~90
hdd + memory ~60
power supply ~80
sound card ~100
i get internet and gps because of my phone but any 3g gps enabled phone could do this.
i think a fuze attached to wires is ludacris and hateful to the phone. its a "mobile" phone not a landline lol k flame away
The Fuze does almost everything your CarPC does and it fits in my pocket. I can take it into the gym and still access my music, still use the internet, etc. Just in the car it's attached to a larger screen.
If I went with a CarPC project I'd want to go all out. I have a Dodge Charger with the stock NAV. It works well but it is limited; not a touchscreen, only plays MP3 CDs with no hard drive interface.
I've played with the idea of replacing it with a 10" touchscreen for VGA movies/DVDs, pretty well sized solid state HD for media storage (for shock resistance and low energy consumption), wifi to link with my home network and download while in my garage, run Windows XP with some GPS based Navigation software, and of course have a USB port for my Fuze to serve as a 3G modem when on the road for browsing and traffic updates.
If I could link the Fuze to a touchscreen, maybe even interface with a more accurate GPS antenna, and wire it into my car stereo I would be one happy driver.
KevinACrider said:
The Fuze does almost everything your CarPC does and it fits in my pocket. I can take it into the gym and still access my music, still use the internet, etc. Just in the car it's attached to a larger screen.
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i know you said almost everything so just to toss it out there. i do make backups of my cds but in order to add music to my phone i would have to either buy mp3s online or use my pc to add music to the phone. same goes with movies. of course this is legally speaking only.
i change through albums and artists all the time. i dislike wm players just takes to long to access
i can drive around and pop in dvds and watch movies on road trips.
i also enjoy listening to higher quality stereo (ya i know its a personal preference i've listened to afew mp3 player instals and i am enjoying the money well well spent)
the battery isn't horrendous on the fuze but its not above decent. i would love to be on wifi or 3g the whole time. yes we know hopping on peoples networks is a nono but still. yes i can take my fuze with me but charging and listening to music ugh power noise
norok said:
you dont need to go all out. i've just got the necesities and its getting the job done plus some. and a side note i have a hdd and pushing around 137dbs but just doubled the watts so should be a few higher and the hd is about 3yrs old still holding strong and taking a ridiculous daily beating (vegas heat and a sub next to it).
i do really enjoy my phone and i've used it as a center for my car while doing the carpc instal and while driving other ppls cars and i can say i am glad i switched but of course personal preference. its just so much easier to do same things.
again just wanted to rant. flame away
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Hi all, this is my first post so I hope I am following all the correct procedures and forum rules
Basically I love listening to music. I was thinking of getting my first android phone soon, and the phone currently at the top of my list is the HTC Sensation, becuase as far as I'm concerned it can do everything (shame it doesn't have a tv tuner but i'll live without that ). The only thing I'm worried about is battery life. Would I be able to get through the day listening to music, some light internet browsing and playing games? Also how good is the sound quality through in-ear headphones?
Thanks,
Hayden
The sound quality is good with the srs pre set. dont know what you'd compare it with but to me i enjoy it but the speaker could be louder. Battery wise i've lasted the whole day with browsing, listening to music and playing a few games. also you might want to try m.tvcatchup.com if you want to watch tv instead of a tuner
The main battery drain on the phone is the screen, since you are likely to listen to music with the screen off, the battery life should be fine. I think you can get 5hrs of use out of the phone on single charge with the screen on all the time, much longer with the screen off.
If you pair the phone with a good set of headphones the audio quality is very good. The default music player have sound enhancement setting for the speaker and equalizers for headphones. There is also a music widget automatic come on the lock screen when music is playing, this way you don't need to unlock the phone to change track.
The only problem is the phone only came with 8Gb micro sd card. If you have lots of music, you will need to buy a higher capacity card.
Thanks very much for the information concerning music playback. Having never been an android user before how does the stock music player compare to say an Ipods?
I can't wait until this phone gets released sim free here in the UK. Wish i could get my hands on one now but it seems to be ages (like half a month) until it gets released
Thanks
Hayden
HaydenE said:
Thanks very much for the information concerning music playback. Having never been an android user before how does the stock music player compare to say an Ipods?
I can't wait until this phone gets released sim free here in the UK. Wish i could get my hands on one now but it seems to be ages (like half a month) until it gets released
Thanks
Hayden
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Dunno about the iPhone music player but get Poweramp when you get your phone. A couple of quid gets you something much better than stock.
As for the UK, CPW near me were going to be stocking it last week so I'd check at yours.
Dave
I got my Sensation sim free from CeX for £449. It's unlocked, and although it's the Vodafone version, I'm going to be flashing to Android Revolution HD as soon as I can
http://uk.webuy.com/product.php?sku=SHTCPYRAUNLA The one I got from CeX. I was trading in two Android phones (DHD and Dell Streak) and paid £92. I also haggled to get £50 off!
dvhttn said:
Dunno about the iPhone music player but get Poweramp when you get your phone. A couple of quid gets you something much better than stock.
As for the UK, CPW near me were going to be stocking it last week so I'd check at yours.
Dave
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I've been to my CPW... no luck
Guess I'll just have to wait. Pre ordered with Expansy... think I may change to clove as they're offering a date of 20th June.
Thanks for your time and when I get my device I'll be sure to give poweramp a go
Regards
Hayden
Just to clarify, the stock music player on the Sensation is a HTC app, and not the stock Gingerbread music player. It looks better than Gingerbread music player and have the same functions.
I don't think there are many differences between the ipod music player. The HTC app don't have album cover flow, but you can put music widget on home screen and lock screen which make access to music app much easier than double tap the home button in iOS.
I think you will be very happy with the Sensation. This phone is the easiest Android device I've used. There is a much smaller learning curve than a stock Android phone and HTC Sense is a very intuitive user interface.
P.S. Check out this CNET top 5 Android music players if you are not happy with the stock music app.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdqlOb2VVQQ
Also you might need Cover Art Downloader to fetch any missing album art:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.birbeck.android.coverart&feature=search_result
Bigmille said:
Just to clarify, the stock music player on the Sensation is a HTC app, and not the stock Gingerbread music player. It looks better than Gingerbread music player and have the same functions.
I don't think there are many differences between the ipod music player. The HTC app don't have album cover flow, but you can put music widget on home screen and lock screen which make access to music app much easier than double tap the home button in iOS.
I think you will be very happy with the Sensation. This phone is the easiest Android device I've used. There is a much smaller learning curve than a stock Android phone and HTC Sense is very intuitive user interface.
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I'll just be glad to get an Android phone. I'm a keen programmer and would love to develop apps or even create a custom rom (or two) in the future. I think that getting this phone will be the first step towards a very pleasant mobile phone experience
Hayden
We have two Infuses in the family for all of two months now. While we still have two Iphone4s on the other two lines, we have had Iphones in the family since day 1 eons ago. I have spent considerable time looking to make the Infuse, not perfect, but 'comparable' to the way I've had my JB'd Iphones. I've made quite a bit of progress and I think this is where it ends, at least until GB which may change some things. I'm on Infused 1.6. Here are the remaining 'lacks'.
- Are they any lock screen widgets for the Android? I missed being able to control the music playbook without needing to unlock. I've on more than a few occasions fumbled to mute the music while trying to unlock and get to the app.
- Unlock screen should stay on longer than 1.5 secs. If you don't hit it right away, you'll have to press the power button again.
- Why ask for the unlock p/w again when I just locked it 2 secs ago? The Iphone is smart enough to have a internal timer set so it'll take you right in. I seem to be spending an awful lot of time unlocking my Infuse.
- Where are the Infuse docks? I have a bunch of ipod/iphone speaker/clock/charging docks around the house which I know I can't use but am I relegated to a life of using the phone jack and carrying the a/c charger ? There is the Samsung dock but it's just a pricey charging dock that costs as much as my last Logitech radio/clock/speaker/charger ipod dock.
- This one is more of a complaint; I spent almost $60 on apps alone just to get some decent working apps. With the iphones, there are better quality free apps that gets the job done. The equivalent Android apps just don't work as good as the iphone version, like CNBC stocks, IP Cam amongst others.
- Unbelievable but true, I got more work done with the iphone remote desktop app using the tiny screen compared to Pocketcloud on a much larger Infuse screen. I guess it's just the interface.
- And yes, when ATT was having issues with the cell tower in my area, the Iphones were still working better than the Infuses which couldn't even get any reception or data strengths. And the Iphone wifi strength is better.
- And seriously, I really want a physical home button. Feeling for the un-lit home virtual button is no fun.
- No complaints about the batt life for me, I'm doing ok with lowering the brightness and using Juice Defender.
- lack of a 'reasonably' priced app for syncing calendar, contacts and notes. The good one is priced at $50. I'm currently not even syncing anymore other than the occassional use of myphoneexplorer. Then I have to use Epistle with dropbox to sync my text files for notes. Tacky.
- While it's great to not use itunes, I have to remember to run Titanium backup occasionally.
But I really appreciate:
- the outstanding sound quality
- the really big sharp screen, great for reading and viewing movies
- great camera quality, in daytime
- not having to rely on itunes, copy direct, no format or screen conversion needed
- direct usb connection
- nice to have external sd but so far my current 32gb (16 + 16) matches my 32gb Iphones. The 32gb and 64gb sd cards are priced higher than the cost of the phone.
- tethering is one thing that costs less than with the iphone because it's included in Infused!! And it works great.
- Fantastic size, super slim
NE1 with any thoughts to how to address some of these points and make the Infuse even better for us?
Thanks
Why not try flashing 2.1.0 of infused? And also get go to 4shared.com and search the app name and put. Apk after it. You said apps aren't that great of quality so just download um from there without paying.
Infuse running infused v2.0.2.
bdbx18 said:
We have two Infuses in the family for all of two months now. While we still have two Iphone4s on the other two lines, we have had Iphones in the family since day 1 eons ago. I have spent considerable time looking to make the Infuse, not perfect, but 'comparable' to the way I've had my JB'd Iphones. I've made quite a bit of progress and I think this is where it ends, at least until GB which may change some things. I'm on Infused 1.6. Here are the remaining 'lacks'.
- Are they any lock screen widgets for the Android? I missed being able to control the music playbook without needing to unlock. I've on more than a few occasions fumbled to mute the music while trying to unlock and get to the app.
- Unlock screen should stay on longer than 1.5 secs. If you don't hit it right away, you'll have to press the power button again.
- Why ask for the unlock p/w again when I just locked it 2 secs ago? The Iphone is smart enough to have a internal timer set so it'll take you right in. I seem to be spending an awful lot of time unlocking my Infuse.
- Where are the Infuse docks? I have a bunch of ipod/iphone speaker/clock/charging docks around the house which I know I can't use but am I relegated to a life of using the phone jack and carrying the a/c charger ? There is the Samsung dock but it's just a pricey charging dock that costs as much as my last Logitech radio/clock/speaker/charger ipod dock.
- This one is more of a complaint; I spent almost $60 on apps alone just to get some decent working apps. With the iphones, there are better quality free apps that gets the job done. The equivalent Android apps just don't work as good as the iphone version, like CNBC stocks, IP Cam amongst others.
- Unbelievable but true, I got more work done with the iphone remote desktop app using the tiny screen compared to Pocketcloud on a much larger Infuse screen. I guess it's just the interface.
- And yes, when ATT was having issues with the cell tower in my area, the Iphones were still working better than the Infuses which couldn't even get any reception or data strengths. And the Iphone wifi strength is better.
- And seriously, I really want a physical home button. Feeling for the un-lit home virtual button is no fun.
- No complaints about the batt life for me, I'm doing ok with lowering the brightness and using Juice Defender.
- lack of a 'reasonably' priced app for syncing calendar, contacts and notes. The good one is priced at $50. I'm currently not even syncing anymore other than the occassional use of myphoneexplorer. Then I have to use Epistle with dropbox to sync my text files for notes. Tacky.
- While it's great to not use itunes, I have to remember to run Titanium backup occasionally.
But I really appreciate:
- the outstanding sound quality
- the really big sharp screen, great for reading and viewing movies
- great camera quality, in daytime
- not having to rely on itunes, copy direct, no format or screen conversion needed
- direct usb connection
- nice to have external sd but so far my current 32gb (16 + 16) matches my 32gb Iphones. The 32gb and 64gb sd cards are priced higher than the cost of the phone.
- tethering is one thing that costs less than with the iphone because it's included in Infused!! And it works great.
- Fantastic size, super slim
NE1 with any thoughts to how to address some of these points and make the Infuse even better for us?
Thanks
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Use widget locker for lock Widgets
The music player in infused 2.1 works on lock screen
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iruleyounow said:
And also get go to 4shared.com and search the app name and put. Apk after it. You said apps aren't that great of quality so just download um from there without paying.
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If you do this do us all a favor and not blame the ROM when you catch DroidDream. Seriously - pay for your apps!! Take some time to read reviews then make an educated decision before you whip your wallet out.
Good comparison! I have used an iPhone in the past but will never go back (FU iTunes). It probably makes life easier that I don't have to coexist with any iOS apps at home, so things like google calendar/docs can be my central location for things I need to share between devices, plus I have an always-on htpc that acts as a file/http server for whatever I need.
Docks will always be a point in iOS's favor though, because even with the rising popularity of android as a platform, the dozens of different physical form factors make it harder for third-party manufacturers to create hardware, whereas Apple releases a new shape of phone every year (or more), and even then they're close enough that a lot of iPhone peripherals can operate between the 3G/3GS/4. Just try to make hardware that can accept a Galaxy S, Infuse, Inspire, Atrix, Droid 3, Xperia, etc.
The Infused music player/lockscreen was mentioned but there are many other apps that will add widgets of any kind to your lock screen (widgetlocker is very popular, though I haven't bothered).
The Infuse does give you a few seconds' grace period if the screen turns off automatically before it locks, but I don't really know why you'd not want it to lock immediately if you push the power button. Maybe this is just different phone usage models between us, but aside from accidental pushes (stupid protruding buttons), I can't ever remember a time I've turned the phone off then wanted to unlock it within a few seconds.
I do agree that the lock screen should stay on longer after a push--maybe four or five seconds--but it isn't that big a deal really. It probably saves battery life though: since the stupid power/volume buttons stick out so much, they probably get pushed in my pocket all the time.
I hear a lot of bad things about Infused wifi, but even though I have only 2/3 bars about 20 feet away from my router, I keep one bar throughout my entire house--even up a floor and horizontally 30 yards away from the router. So I guess ymmv depending on how strong a signal you really need.
Not sure what you mean about SD cards--you can get a 32GB microSD card for under $50, and there are no 64GB microSD cards that I've heard of. SDXC is relatively new and allows full-size 64-128GB SD cards but they're still expensive (prohibitively so, if you ask me). If you're just comparing with-contract cost, a 32GB iPhone costs $300, while an infuse is ~$120-$200 depending where you buy it, plus another $20 for a 16GB microSD card to match the total capacity, meaning if you buy cheaply, you can spend less than half as much on an equal-capacity Infuse.
The bottom line for me is really the screen. I pick up someone else's Inspire or iPhone and the screen just kills me. I don't think I can ever go back to an LCD after using Samsung's AMOLED screens. #firstworldproblems
Lockscreen behaviors - Other ROMs have significantly more configuration in terms of lockscreen timeouts available.
Apps - the only non-niche apps I've found a significant urge to buy (and have bought) were TiBu and Tapatalk.
I purchased SetCPU, although probably would not have done so if I'd done a bit more research.
I also purchased Sixaxis Controller to allow pairing of PS3 controllers to my Tab 10.1, and once LB and I fix Cyanogenmod's Bluetooth, my Infuse too.
Nothing like TiBu exists for iOS. Same for SetCPU.
You can't pair PS3 controllers to iOS devices for gaming.
There are media and car docks available for the Infuse, I have the car dock for mine and it's excellent.
Physical home button - blame Apple for focusing on litigating instead of innovating for this one.
$50 for calendar/contacts sync??????? Um, you got MASSIVELY ripped off. The phone has excellent built-in sync capabilities. I sync contacts, calendars, and emails to my Google account 100% free.
Thanks! I forgot I did try widgetlocker back a few months ago. I recall now I wanted to keep my pattern lock and on the shortcuts, it would jump to the app like Mortplayer and then it will stall before it will bring me back to the lock screen. But it'll serve the purpose for now.
The sync solution we have are naturally tied to Google. But I've been syncing to Outlook forever and I want to keep that. Companionlink costs $50.
When I got my 16gb card, it was on sale for $25 but the 32gb card was more than $50. I've got to keep an eye out for a good deal and pass my 16gb card on to the other Infuse.
BTW, one more thing I sorely miss is the news alerts I used to get very frequently. The only setup I have and know of on the android is the CNN app which then just puts a 1 second blip on the status bar. Anyone know of a setup where it will do a pop-up alert?
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Thanks! I forgot I did try widgetlocker back a few months ago. I recall now I wanted to keep my pattern lock and on the shortcuts, it would jump to the app like Mortplayer and then it will stall before it will bring me back to the lock screen. But it'll serve the purpose for now.
The sync solution we have are naturally tied to Google. But I've been syncing to Outlook forever and I want to keep that. Companionlink costs $50.
When I got my 16gb card, it was on sale for $25 but the 32gb card was more than $50. I've got to keep an eye out for a good deal and pass my 16gb card on to the other Infuse.
BTW, one more thing I sorely miss is the news alerts I used to get very frequently. The only setup I have and know of on the android is the CNN app which then just puts a 1 second blip on the status bar. Anyone know of a setup where it will do a pop-up alert?
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MyPhoneExplorer doesn't work for me. Could it be because I'm using Paranoid .. a custom ROM?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1776129
Try it man.
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I noticed in the USA version (@3:50- Rogers HTC One X Review on Youtube) that there is a partition on the HTC One X of ~2GB for Apps.
Does anyone think that 1) this partition can be removed, and 2) that more space can be made available rather than the messily >10gb on this phone?
These questions are basically my make or break for HTC and my upgrade. I may end up waiting of the SIII if I can't at least have 12GB of storage space made available.
What 12gb, this phone has 32gb of internal memory and 26gb was user accessible. Do you.think that you posted this in one s section or what? This is one x And dev thread, post this kind of questions in Q&A thread from the next time.
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Keep in mind you have the international HSPA version.. I am talking about the ATT LTE One X releasing on May 6th.
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What 12gb, this phone has 32gb of internal memory and 26gb was user accessible. Do you.think that you posted this in one s section or what? This is one x And dev thread, post this kind of questions in Q&A thread from the next time.
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Umm, this is in the One XL General thread. So he's right.
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I noticed in the USA version (@3:50- Rogers HTC One X Review on Youtube) that there is a partition on the HTC One X of ~2GB for Apps.
Does anyone think that 1) this partition can be removed, and 2) that more space can be made available rather than the messily >10gb on this phone?
These questions are basically my make or break for HTC and my upgrade. I may end up waiting of the SIII if I can't at least have 12GB of storage space made available.
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it's make or break over 2gb?? getting a little picky are we not? i see a lot of peoples points on the memory, some people just need it either for movies or just files in general.
i'm grandfathered in to unlimited, i have wi-fi at home, work, and college to boot, i have a tablet with 48gb and a full-size usb to slap my thumb drives into, and a great cloud setup via dropbox, google music, splashtop, and photobucket. i simply have more storage then i know what to do with...
i feel for those who have to skimp by deleting this and that just to have room.
here are some links to some good devices that are cheap and would make you a little happier, honestly, if your upgrading, i would sell the phone and keep something like an atrix around, you could afford all this stuff and a decent year old phone for the price of a one x.
acer a500 tablet: 16gb, sdcard, full usb, 10.1" 1280x800, tegra 2 ~$230
32gb micro sdcard ~$22-30
32gb thumb drive ~$19-22
total=~$275
movies are better, ps3 controllers work perfectly, a wireless mouse is fine, battery lasts me 3 days, you can turn it into a laptop, has icecream 4.0 roms, and on and on...
i'm mean seriously, if you want entertainment be smart. you don't need the top of the line phone to have fun, try something that is here now and cheap.
but what ever, that was the longest 2 cents i think i have ever wrote...and i doubt anybody will listen lol.
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it's make or break over 2gb?? getting a little picky are we not? i see a lot of peoples points on the memory, some people just need it either for movies or just files in general.
i'm grandfathered in to unlimited, i have wi-fi at home, work, and college to boot, i have a tablet with 48gb and a full-size usb to slap my thumb drives into, and a great cloud setup via dropbox, google music, splashtop, and photobucket. i simply have more storage then i know what to do with...
i feel for those who have to skimp by deleting this and that just to have room.
here are some links to some good devices that are cheap and would make you a little happier, honestly, if your upgrading, i would sell the phone and keep something like an atrix around, you could afford all this stuff and a decent year old phone for the price of a one x.
acer a500 tablet: 16gb, sdcard, full usb, 10.1" 1280x800, tegra 2 ~$230
32gb micro sdcard ~$22-30
32gb thumb drive ~$19-22
total=~$275
movies are better, ps3 controllers work perfectly, a wireless mouse is fine, battery lasts me 3 days, you can turn it into a laptop, has icecream 4.0 roms, and on and on...
i'm mean seriously, if you want entertainment be smart. you don't need the top of the line phone to have fun, try something that is here now and cheap.
but what ever, that was the longest 2 cents i think i have ever wrote...and i doubt anybody will listen lol.
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While your thoughts are sound, you'll never win this arguement with everyone, myself included!
Cloud storage is great, but only works if your always connected. I am an airline pilot. I need local storage on my phone for photos, music, docs etc and cannot use the cloud while literally in the cloud.
You know what I can't wait for? For my airline to get free, unlimited inflight wifi. Then my arguement becomes mute and 16gb on a phone will be more than enough. Before you say you wouldn't want your Pilots using wifi, we could update our weather with maps, notams, etc far easier with tablets etc than the airplanes equipement. I know I'm going off topic here, but while most (not all) of my First Officers use ipads, I prefer my galaxy tab. When they see maps and approach plates on the wider screen instead of that unnatural squarish ipad screen, they all ask me "what's that!!!!".
At any rate, different people have different needs. I use dropbox, google docs for non aviation and union stuff, google + photo upload, I live in Canada so no google music but I prefer to have my music locally. Videos, whole dif matter, a 15 minute hi def video can be close to a gig, it sucks to have a great phone with a great camera and before taking video you might have to see if you have the space!
You know an easy solution? The Iphone comes in three storage solutions, so should the one series. Cloud enough for you, buy the cheap 16gb version, partial cloud type of guy? 32gb it is, music and video nut? Here's an expensive 64gb variant for you! Can anyone argue that is a bad idea for a company trying to turn their fortunes around? If the galaxy s3 outsells the one series in North America, their handicaped storage will be one reason (pun intended) why.
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While your thoughts are sound, you'll never win this arguement with everyone, myself included!
Cloud storage is great, but only works if your always connected. I am an airline pilot. I need local storage on my phone for photos, music, docs etc and cannot use the cloud while literally in the cloud.
You know what I can't wait for? For my airline to get free, unlimited inflight wifi. Then my arguement becomes mute and 16gb on a phone will be more than enough. Before you say you wouldn't want your Pilots using wifi, we could update our weather with maps, notams, etc far easier with tablets etc than the airplanes equipement. I know I'm going off topic here, but while most (not all) of my First Officers use ipads, I prefer my galaxy tab. When they see maps and approach plates on the wider screen instead of that unnatural squarish ipad screen, they all ask me "what's that!!!!".
At any rate, different people have different needs. I use dropbox, google docs for non aviation and union stuff, google + photo upload, I live in Canada so no google music but I prefer to have my music locally. Videos, whole dif matter, a 15 minute hi def video can be close to a gig, it sucks to have a great phone with a great camera and before taking video you might have to see if you have the space!
You know an easy solution? The Iphone comes in three storage solutions, so should the one series. Cloud enough for you, buy the cheap 16gb version, partial cloud type of guy? 32gb it is, music and video nut? Here's an expensive 64gb variant for you! Can anyone argue that is a bad idea for a company trying to turn their fortunes around? If the galaxy s3 outsells the one series in North America, their handicaped storage will be one reason (pun intended) why.
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So we cant text and drive, but you can text, look at pictures and edit documents while you fly?
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You know an easy solution? The Iphone comes in three storage solutions, so should the one series. Cloud enough for you, buy the cheap 16gb version, partial cloud type of guy? 32gb it is, music and video nut? Here's an expensive 64gb variant for you! Can anyone argue that is a bad idea for a company trying to turn their fortunes around? If the galaxy s3 outsells the one series in North America, their handicaped storage will be one reason (pun intended) why.
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i fully agree with this, although it would probably end in a lawsuit.
all the flagships should have options and only be refreshed once a year, it's so silly how android makers have splintered the market just to have that extra feature that sells just that many more phones (looking at you samsung).
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So we cant text and drive, but you can text, look at pictures and edit documents while you fly?
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Lol!!!!!!!
Getting serious though, as Pilot's we have a "sterile cockpit" rule (most airlines are the same) when descending through 10,000'. That's usually the same time I select the seatbelt sign on (unless it's earlier due turbulence), so i'm putting away my toys the same time you are. The exception would be approach plates, alot of us use tablets for those nowadays.
Got to add, I love my phone / tablet combo. My phone alone replaced my phone, calculator, E6B, mp3 player, gameboy, camera and more. My tab replaced all my manuals, and approach plates, and no more library books in my bag. Some of those things are for overnights in the hotel btw. The ability to quickly check weather and other info anywhere, chat realtime with maintenance while sending pics etc etc and even 10 years ago seems like the dark ages!
Technology and gadgets......f*ck yeah!
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Lol!!!!!!!
Getting serious though, as Pilot's we have a "sterile cockpit" rule (most airlines are the same) when descending through 10,000'. That's usually the same time I select the seatbelt sign on (unless it's earlier due turbulence), so i'm putting away my toys the same time you are. The exception would be approach plates, alot of us use tablets for those nowadays.
Got to add, I love my phone / tablet combo. My phone alone replaced my phone, calculator, E6B, mp3 player, gameboy, camera and more. My tab replaced all my manuals, and approach plates, and no more library books in my bag. Some of those things are for overnights in the hotel btw. The ability to quickly check weather and other info anywhere, chat realtime with maintenance while sending pics etc etc and even 10 years ago seems like the dark ages!
Technology and gadgets......f*ck yeah!
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This is a great way to implement the new technology. Instead of carrying around 30 LBS of products, you now have two lightweight devices that do everything for you. Same goes for my job and countless others... but it always makes me happy to hear people taking advantage of them.
Im curious. Do you still have unlimited data? What are your plans about keeping it? Whats your next phone?
I switched to the 6GB share plan, and I'm either getting an iPhone 5, or a Droid DNA.
Seriously?..... I guess we should each have our own thread when we decide to get a new phone.
Each day that passes, I look more and more forward to getting away from the redundancy and boringness of these Tbolt forums.
Well I'm loving my TB its on liquid ics 3.2 I think over fast and the next fone should be the Droid DNA or Samsung note 3
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Why in the hell would you switch from unlimited to 6GB? You do realize that higher phones will pull more data, higher quality video streams, and so on right? What used to be 4GB on the TB will turn into 8GB on the DNA or other similar phones.
Anyway I bought the DNA and gave it a trial run, found out it really wasnt for me and didnt suit my needs so I'm back on the TB. The only thing I want in a new phone is a bigger screen now. The TB fills every other category on my wish list perfectly.
At this point I'm probably going to wait until I really see something I like come out. The Droid DNA had a lot of potential, but it's major shortfalls (16GB only, no uSD slot, non-removable battery) are hard to ignore. It's tough to justify the GS3 now that it's already 6 months old, so I think I'm going to wait and see what 2013 brings to the table. While I'm fine with the large phone size (although I think phablets like the Note are too large), I do wish one of the big Android manufacturers would put out a top tier phone in a smaller form factor. There's no way my wife could comfortably use the DNA or GS3 (the Tbolt is about her hand's limit), but it seems there's no top tier phone in the low 4" sizes anymore.
I still have unlimited. Next phone? I won't know that for 6 month but it will have 64GB or an SD slot. I have 64 Gig SDXC in my tbolt now.
Why would you want 64GB? Isnt that like 30,000 songs? At least 100 movies? Half the apps in the app store? You should probably get over your memory requirements since removable batteries and stuff are a thing of the past. Phones are moving into the cloud, designed for wireless charging, ultra light weight and portability. To achieve this you need to be able to just cram everything in there any way you can, which makes it less likely for access.
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Why would you want 64GB? Isnt that like 30,000 songs? At least 100 movies? Half the apps in the app store? You should probably get over your memory requirements since removable batteries and stuff are a thing of the past. Phones are moving into the cloud, designed for wireless charging, ultra light weight and portability. To achieve this you need to be able to just cram everything in there any way you can, which makes it less likely for access.
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I was once asked why anyone would want 1MB (yes megabyte) of RAM in a computer. The "cloud" is finicky, not always available, and not to be trusted if you care anything about privacy. Memory is cheap and light. ($42 retail less than 1g for my 64GB). I'm willing to bet the trend toward no removable battery or memory is money (i.e. cost of manufacture and support) not ability of the designers to execute. The trends seems to be LARGER phones (bigger screens bigger batteries).
Buy a used phone and keep your unlimited data. eBay, swappa, etc. I've bought my wife and I each a galaxy nexus for around $220 each. You won't regret it.
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Keeping the tbolt and bought a tablet to use along side my bolt with tethering on...
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Me, too. I just got a Lenovo A1107 for $120 (as a carputer) and have a 10.1" Samsung Tablet for around the house. The Bolt can stay as a telephone and mobile hotspot.
Verizon sucks, though.
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I was once asked why anyone would want 1MB (yes megabyte) of RAM in a computer. The "cloud" is finicky, not always available, and not to be trusted if you care anything about privacy. Memory is cheap and light. ($42 retail less than 1g for my 64GB). I'm willing to bet the trend toward no removable battery or memory is money (i.e. cost of manufacture and support) not ability of the designers to execute. The trends seems to be LARGER phones (bigger screens bigger batteries).
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You knew 1MB would never suffice for a computer because you could foresee the advancements in technology requiring more space in the future. So what advancements do you see in cell-phone technology requiring 64gb, 128gb, screw it a full terabyte if storage? You might as well tell me that I'm foolish for feeling 160mph is fast enough in my car, because one day we might all be cruising at 250mph through the neighborhood. Movies arent getting any longer, songs are getting any bigger. There is no practical reason for a feature length film to be more than a couple of gigabytes since the screen size will always be less than 7".
It is precisely because phones are getting bigger that the engineering involved is getting more difficult. Special considerations have to be made when designing a battery that can be removed. It is MUCH easier for a designer if he doesnt have to worry about this. Imagine if cell-phone had removable 4G chips, video processors and ram. Do you really think the design could still be kept as portable as something like the Iphone, DNA, or SGS3? Of course not, you'd end up with a phone as big as a laptop trying to accommodate this.
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You knew 1MB would never suffice for a computer because you could foresee the advancements in technology requiring more space in the future. So what advancements do you see in cell-phone technology requiring 64gb, 128gb, screw it a full terabyte if storage? You might as well tell me that I'm foolish for feeling 160mph is fast enough in my car, because one day we might all be cruising at 250mph through the neighborhood. Movies arent getting any longer, songs are getting any bigger. There is no practical reason for a feature length film to be more than a couple of gigabytes since the screen size will always be less than 7".
It is precisely because phones are getting bigger that the engineering involved is getting more difficult. Special considerations have to be made when designing a battery that can be removed. It is MUCH easier for a designer if he doesnt have to worry about this. Imagine if cell-phone had removable 4G chips, video processors and ram. Do you really think the design could still be kept as portable as something like the Iphone, DNA, or SGS3? Of course not, you'd end up with a phone as big as a laptop trying to accommodate this.
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Bad assumption, straw man and non sequitur
I had no special knowledge for what computer memory would be used. I only know, looking BACK at computer technology, that EVERY time someone has suggested “No one will ever need more than _____” we blew right past that without a pause. People are pretty clever in using all of a given resource. For myself I am just under 32GB used on my SD right now so 64GB I don’t have to worry about filling given my current usage model. (Which is why I stated that I could live with a 64GB fixed memory phone?) Even so 128GB devices are practically a given and 1TB is not much of a stretch. This trend will probably continue until we can fit no more into 1cm^2. What will use all of this storage? I don’t know. People are very clever in using all of a given resource however.
Does online storage and fast wireless mitigate the need for large local storage? Yes. Does it fully replace the need? No. Are data caps and overage charges making replacing local storage harder? Probably.
As for video I think your assumption of 7” is incorrect. Phones already have outputs (HDMI or the like) to drive large screens. What will those screens be in the future in size and frame rate be? HD, 2K 4K 8K? 24,30,48,60 FPS? I fully expect video files to grow.
Audio – I don’t see it changing much but perhaps bandwidth and storage will favor lossless CODECs.
Your car analogy is weak. Automobiles already operate close to the human ability to perform in many areas, portable devices… not so much. I would like to go 800 miles on a tank of gas.
I really disagree with you regarding designing for bigger vs smaller phones. A larger phone, dominated by say the display should offer more opportunity to fit things in. Of course if the wider and taller phone actually has less volume than previous phones then it would be more challenging and if it has to weigh less even with a larger volume then it may be really tough. Removable storage and batteries ARE harder to design as I said before and I fully understand that the extra cost of design and manufacture of removable storage and batteries favors the design of non-removable storage and batteries. No one mentioned changing SOC or coms or radios but that is another straw man.
Before I go on, I'm just curious, what does your 32gb of cellphone storage consist of?
The key word here is "right now."
Right now 64 GB might seem like a top end tier for mobile storage. But the DNA is 1080p resolution with more phones to likely follow suit. The files will be larger, and data consumption will increase.
Carrier networks are no longer in the unlimited era. Caps, throttling, and insanely annoying persistent wifi alerts rule the day. If carriers insist on treating network bandwidth like gold from Ft. Knox, then I'm going to want to carry more, and cloud less.
16 gigs of storage becomes 11 after OS and bloat. 11 gigs is pretty pedestrian on a device that can hold apps, movies, and songs. How long have we had iPods with more than 11 gigs in storage?
SGS 3 had it right. So does the Note 2. If I want locked down drudgery I'd buy an iPhone.
I love HTC, but they need to get somebody else making decisions over there. Carrier exclusive phones? Fail. No SD Card or removable battery? Sigh.
I'm considering a Nexus 4, but that's only because it has budget pricing, and I can use it with pre-paid service. (Read: I'm cheap)
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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Before I go on, I'm just curious, what does your 32gb of cellphone storage consist of?
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25.6GB of audio
1.1G of nandroids (each about 1Gig)
2G Ti backups, app data, app cache and system stuff
I could live with 32GB if I had to for a while at least.
If you have a few Roms you like and have nandroids of, they're almost a gig a piece.
I hate how new phones are stopping at 16 gigs with no sd slot. It's not enough memory for me, nandroids and app backups are necessary and use a lot of space.
I'm the last person I ever thought would be advocating for less storage space. Believe me I'm with you when it comes to the ignorance of people who always thought ABC/XYZ was enough. I guess a better way to justify the design of something like the Droid DNA is that it at least gets the job done. I watch tons of movies, listen to tons of music, and keep my phone docked in a cradle on my desk to surf at work all day long. I just found alternatives to storage limitation that just so happen to be the direction the industry is trying to push us in. I recognized that I dont need to have 10 movies on my device at any given moment because it's not like I'll ever really be watching them. At least not often enough to justify a need for storage to keep them. I uploaded my entire song library to Google Play which was a huge boon because now I have it with me on any device anywhere I go. I dont keep more than 1 nandroid of my device because my previous build is the only thing worth keeping. When I flash a new rom I simply keep a failsafe, and I only store about 2-3 roms on my device as redundant failsafes for each other in the event things really go sour or I just get really bored.
If this is the tradeoff necessary to have a beautiful 5" display with wireless charging and weighs light as a feather, then I consider this a win. If the alternative is a larger, heavier, more expensive phone to accommodate the best of both worlds (tons of storage and tons of power) then I consider that a loss. I will gladly take form over function since the function can be made up for in other areas that actually add quite a bit of newfound convenience. To me, this whole idea of clinging to old phone standards of sd-cards and removable batteries is just oldschool thinking. It reminds me of the business tycoon still using his monochrome blackberry thinking he's the ****, and that all these kids just dont "get it" with their fancy colors and lack of technical needs. Or the supposedly tech savvy laptop pro who buys the heaviest most impossible to carry device with a 17" screen, optical disc drive, and 10 USB ports for that 1 time he actually needs it. Everything you use your storage for is just for an emergency. 25gb of music, multiple nandroids, etc. They're all just "what if" scenarios that probably see the light of day once every few months. Sacrificing the entire build of a phone for this off-chance scenario is just very backwards thinking imo.
You dont have to believe me but the dna gets excellent battery life for a phone with a 1080p and the lack of an sd card is irrelevant since it is otg capable meaning an external hard drive can be used. The sad part is that a new one x phone is right around the corner.
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I'm the last person I ever thought would be advocating for less storage space. ....
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I glad you found a usage model with which you are happy. I prefer another.