Apple iPad 1 ? - General Questions and Answers

Hi guys,
I did not find a single thread to match this question i have and so i created this thread (if a thread is available to answer my question, please redirect me and delete this thread mods ).
I recently acquired an iPad 1 with it's latest firmware being iOS 5.1.1. It is really annoying that i can't even edit a MS Word document xD (No offence but i really HATE iOS.) So i was wondering if there is anything at all i can do about it and probably, you know, install android or ubuntu or ANYTHING other than iOS? (i know it sounds stupid but this is my first iOS device that i have and i have no hell of an idea how to use, what to do with iOS or why it even exists! It is not really unbelievable for me because i used XDA on 2 of my windows phones earlier.) Any help appreciated

I think chromeOS and Linux have been successfully installed on ipads but they were more proof of concept and not really functional. If you are looking for everyday use I think you're stuck with iOS
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Thanks for the heads up. In any case, all i want to do is use it for editing text documents (MS Word - .docx) and play music. Obviously it can play music so no worries. Coming to the text editor, i did try a couple apps that were compatible with 5.1.1 but it crashes instantly. Did not find a proper "fix" on google. Do you have ANY idea on how to accomplish this? for if this is done, i have no need to worry about doing anything to it. lol

Really? You are using a 6 years old device with a 6 years old OS and you say iOS sucks?

Sorry if I hurt your feelings man... I am using an age-old samsung android phone running gingerbread. I still can install ALL essential apps and use it to it's fullest. so yeah, i am using a 6 year old device running a 6 year old OS with which i cannot install a small text editor and i did say iOS sucks
I can afford a new android tablet but the thing is this was a tab used by one of my family members for quite some time and he is no more now. it serves as a memory of that wonderful man. I don't mean to offend anyone here.

@HawkEye
I know this thread is quite old, but I also just recently was given an iPad 1 and was looking for some "updates". What I came across is "Grayd00r" (https://www.grayd00r.com/), which says bringing some new life into this old device. this might be something for you.
P.S.: I agree that you not always need the newest hardware - it always depends on your personal needs what you want to do with the phone/pad/etc.

travelbug said:
@HawkEye
I know this thread is quite old, but I also just recently was given an iPad 1 and was looking for some "updates". What I came across is "Grayd00r" (https://www.grayd00r.com/), which says bringing some new life into this old device. this might be something for you.
P.S.: I agree that you not always need the newest hardware - it always depends on your personal needs what you want to do with the phone/pad/etc.
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Years later, I face the same issue... Cant even get the browser to load. Anyone got anything for an ipad 1? Grayd00r is for sale now

@vageye8lktard
You may want to check https://www.reddit.com/r/Grayd00r/

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Leaving Android... Any thought what logical choice is?

Hey Guys im done with Android, i found it very disapointing. The applications and devs just arent there. And if they are some games etc apps are meant for a specific resolution...ie: gameloft games!
Im on verizon and left ATT because of to many dropped calls. But I loved the Iphone...do i wait for iphone on verizon or go windows mobile phone 7.
Android was awesome for what it was... but there was nothing of value in the market. Atleast for me.
If there was no apps in the Android market for you then you will be really disappointed in the WP7 market. It sounds to me like you need to wait for the Verizon iPhone.
I was thinking the same thing blazingwolf.... but i wanted something different. But i guess different isnt always best for some people.
PLus I know wp7 is coming in january for verizon, but if i wait for iphone God knows when its coming to verizon.
I guess im stuck in a waiting game. Thanks!!!!
go with the iPhone, it'll satisfy you more than anything else.
I currently have an N900 running Android, Maemo and Meego. I also have an iPod Touch 4th Gen, and to be honest I use my iPod Touch more than anything else. All the apps/games i play on the go are all on my iPod Touch, i barely use my N900 other than txt or make phone calls.
I had a HTC Touch PRO and wasted so much time with installing custom ROMS and all these other stuff (I was using Energy ROM and always up to date until a few months ago where I sold my Touch Pro) and to be honest, it's just not as fun as owning an iDevice. That's my personal opinion and preference anyway.
I'm not an Apple fanboy either, I will never go for the iPhone coz it's way to expensive and I only go for phones with a qwerty keyboard. But my point is, judging from what you're looking for I say the iPhone is definitely the best choice.
Windows Phone 7 seems promising and I've been following and keep up to date with it since it was announced, I know all about the latest phones running Windows Phone 7. But I don't think it'll do well. Ur better off with the iPhone since u can just get everything straight from the go, not to mention you can jailbreak it (which is ridiculously easy btw) and install even more tweaks and stuff on it, and "FREE" apps and games (if you know what i'm talking about *wink*).
For Android, it's the same *wink* *wink* but the contents aren't as fresh and popular as what the AppStore and the jailbreaking scene or Cydia offers. Trust me, u'll have TONS of fun with so many apps/games for the iPhone. I have like 30GB+ worth lol.
But at least u have an Android phone. I'm sick of my N900 already and wanna get a Desire Z....
Yeah guys thanks for the input, im gonna wait for the iphone. Its my best bet. Thanks again for the opinions!!!
What i learned is a OS is only as good as the applications!!
BigBonkers said:
Yeah guys thanks for the input, im gonna wait for the iphone. Its my best bet. Thanks again for the opinions!!!
What i learned is a OS is only as good as the applications!!
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well that's the thing, iOS itself wouldn't be good if it weren't for the APP Store and 300,000+ developers backing it up. Let alone the jailbreaking scene, there're tons of *special forums* *wink* if you know what i'm talking about. There're literally hundreds of repos out there, u can find anything u want so easily.
I think one of the strong points about the iDevices is that they all use the same firmware. There're no custom firmwares or anything so everyone focus their development and support etc on the same thing. Not like Windows Mobile or Android where we have tons of stuff everywhere for different devices, and then there're sub-sections for custom firmwares specific for those devices and so on........I'm not saying that's bad but to newcomers that just started with all this, it's a bit of a cluster-fuk and confusing to find what you need.
I have used many OS platforms and almost all the top brands out there, and I can definitely tell u that iOS is the most straightforward and simplest to use from experience.
well dude wherever you go be sure to send a postcard about how much you miss is back here rofl

Android on the Arrive/7 Pro

Searched, and haven't found a thread on this.
I'm due for an upgrade in July on my Sprint line, and I was almost certain I was going to go with the EVO 3D (when it comes out), but then I saw the HTC Arrive and kinda liked it. The thing is, though, that I really like Android as well. I know dual-booting Android was possible on the Touch Pro 2, so I was wondering if it's possible to do the same thing with the Arrive/7 Pro, or if having Windows Phone 7 prevents it from being able to do this. Thanks!
It cannot be done as of now.
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The HTC 7 Pro has the same SoC as HD7 and HD2, and both of them already have Android.
Why Android still can't be ported for 7 Pro?
I'm pretty sure that hardspl must be available before we can flash custom roms on our pros. More imporantly some sort of application like haret for WM6 but for WP7 would probably also need to be developed first. Hopefully some fine day it will all be possible like on the HD2.
i was looking at how they dual boot with hd2, and it looks like they boot from sdcard, and flash wp7. we shouldn't need to flash wp7, but booting android is sdcard boot. so i see no reason why we can't boot from sdcard, unless we need a special boot loader, and the boot loader they need doesn't have the access to wp7 to get the boot loader working properly and that goes beyond me please correct me if I'm wrong.
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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Just got my Arrive from Evo. LOVE IT. My Fiance loves it aswell surprisingly and she is getting one soon :]. Atleast untill Evo 3D..
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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thanks for your opinion....
exilkubaner said:
thanks for your opinion....
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not an opinion,plenty of articles to back up my claims. sorry your feelings got hurt jaja.
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not an opinion,plenty of articles to back up my claims. sorry your feelings got hurt jaja.
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and also many articles that say the opposite. Dont just spew out stuff and say it as fact. Other people have different preferences.
iOS is just as fragmented as Android. Only thing is that Apple controls the fragmentation so dumbass developers dont try making completely universal apps when they dont know how the hell to do that.
And fragmentation isnt an issue for consumers. Its perfectly fine. So i dont understand your bias against it unless you are a developer.
Acsteffy87 said:
and also many articles that say the opposite. Dont just spew out stuff and say it as fact. Other people have different preferences.
iOS is just as fragmented as Android. Only thing is that Apple controls the fragmentation so dumbass developers dont try making completely universal apps when they dont know how the hell to do that.
And fragmentation isnt an issue for consumers. Its perfectly fine. So i dont understand your bias against it unless you are a developer.
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its not fragmentation thats an issue for consumers its malware, there have been numerous reports about this already, im not an iFan either
I really don't care whether you or anyone says android is worse or better than wp7 but it would be nice to switch if one wants to. so when there is a thread discussing the possibility to port android on the 7 pro, there is no need for no-sayers, since they can occupy their brains with other stuff.
i would love to see this, but especially since there is only 1 sd-card, its either flashing one or the other i think...
Not possible on wp7 YET
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Hello all,
I am new to mobile phones and I would like to post some questions, which are general in fact, but closely related to the topic and the Arrive device.
I would like to have another OS on it and I have found a way to change the SD cart it is running with, so I should be able to change or modify it with no trouble.
I imagine that I could find another HTC device with identical hardware and deploy it's ROM to this one in a manner similar to HD2's approach. I am so new that I already can feel how dumn is that ... but still.
I need to clarify some basics in order to know what to look for. First of all what does the firmware does and how it is related to the OS. Can I imagine it is something like BIOS, which controls the main hardware like processor, ram, telephony, etc? If so what stops me of formatting the SD and booting another system from it on the same hardware.
Another thing is what the ROM contains and how it is related to the OS. I am with the impression that it has everything in it -- OS distributive, firmware backup and bootloader maybe. If that is correct am I free to cook a ROM that contains the same firmware (as I imagine it like a BIOS alternative), the bootloader of another system and its distributive? Of course the ROM that is already on the device may and most probably will try to stop me, so I will need to somehow format it.
I do not express myself too good due to lack of expertise, but I know computers and I believe you will know what to tell me to straighten my thoughts.
Thank you in advance for any information you provide.
Sincere,
drel
At this stage, pesonally, I think wp7 is the best os to me. At it is not laggy as android does and looks more beautiful than iOS...
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Up as i really need to know the answers.
Please ppl, if this is not the place to ask then guide me to where i will get some heads-up.
Thanks once again.
Drel
drelisimo said:
Up as i really need to know the answers.
Please ppl, if this is not the place to ask then guide me to where i will get some heads-up.
Thanks once again.
Drel
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just buy an Android phone!
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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I think what you meant to say was "Why would anyone have a different opinion than my awesome opinion?" As much as I love WP7 I'd love to be able to use Android with this chassis. Choice is always good. There is no Android phone with this keyboard.
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Bump. Having no Bluetooth SPP has just pissed me off for a year. About to get an Galaxy Nexus S come May, so I don't mind tinkering with my Arrive for now.
hello?
Any news about dual booting android on arrive / HD7 Pro? I read the thread and some users just talk crap. " Why this? Why that?" Why not, may I ask. I Love WP7, i really think that beats the crap out of everything else. But why can't we dream of having android too? As far as I know, Android has at the moment much more apps ( free and payed ones ) available than WP7. My brother-in-law has veetle ( just an example ) on his Xperia S, and he can watch live football/soccer which I can't cuz there is no veetle available. And who can name veetle, can name many others too. The point is: Combining the best of two worlds would makes fully profit from our beloved phones, which we payed ( at least I did ). I really hope that some news about this stuff.
Best Regards
Miiky

questions before buying a wp7 phone

hi guys
i have a couple of questions before buying a wp7 phone
i want to buy an MS phone but im afraid that it doesn't have the "openness" that android offers
does wp7 have a "do it our way" ideology like the iphone ?
am i stuck to something like "itunes"
i noticed that when u press search Bing shows up
can i choose google instead ?
thanks
hello to you! i have been an android user since 2009, also an iOS user since 2008... now I am a happy user of a windows phone wich i tell you sincerely that you wont miss that android... I'm feeling like i was reborn, with an apealing look, everything seems to be at his natural place...its very stable, you wont meet these freeze from android or iOS..besides that, seems to me that internet explorer is faster than ever...you have the same high quality games like iOS. And yes, you can make it in your own way...microsoft has developed an app like itune, called zune, but you wont depend on zune... anyway, zune is more friendly than iTunes! so, i truly recommend you a windows phone with mango... its purely awesome!
untitledmangxg said:
hello to you! i have been an android user since 2009, also an iOS user since 2008... now I am a happy user of a windows phone wich i tell you sincerely that you wont miss that android... I'm feeling like i was reborn, with an apealing look, everything seems to be at his natural place...its very stable, you wont meet these freeze from android or iOS..besides that, seems to me that internet explorer is faster than ever...you have the same high quality games like iOS. And yes, you can make it in your own way...microsoft has developed an app like itune, called zune, but you wont depend on zune... anyway, zune is more friendly than iTunes! so, i truly recommend you a windows phone with mango... its purely awesome!
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this sounds great !!
im planning on buying a lumia 800 after 2 months
by that time they would have sorted out the firmware issues
thanks !!!
You won't regret the Lumia purchase. Had mine 10 days now, and it's gorgeous - aesthetically and as an OS.
lulzinator said:
this sounds great !!
im planning on buying a lumia 800 after 2 months
by that time they would have sorted out the firmware issues
thanks !!!
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If you are waiting for 2 months, then maybe you will have more devices on offer. Hopefully a Lumia 900?
lulzinator said:
hi guys
i have a couple of questions before buying a wp7 phone
i want to buy an MS phone but im afraid that it doesn't have the "openness" that android offers
does wp7 have a "do it our way" ideology like the iphone ?
am i stuck to something like "itunes"
i noticed that when u press search Bing shows up
can i choose google instead ?
thanks
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The scope for customisation is far less than that of Android. Overall WP7 is fluid and stable but I have one app that annoyingly hangs my phone (Own this world) so it isn't true to say it is 100% hang free.
There still remain many "obvious" features missing, eg no draft text messages, no "real" 3rd party multitasking (ie apps are suspended whilst in the background).
Unless there are specific apps (locked to a particular OS) that are must haves, then I would say give WP a try.
As the guys in previous posts have told you - it's potential for modding and 3rd party apps is quite limited so far, but being a former symbian - windows mobile - android user, I gotta admit that I've gotten used to WP7 so much that I honestly can't see myself going back to an android or such. It annoyed the hell out of me for the 2 first weeks of ownership (HTC Mozart 7 is the device in question) because of some ridiculous limitations imposed on a "smartphone", but after the tedious task of reading a large amount of info, then finally updateing/unlocking my phone, I simply love it It's so smooth, and practical like you wouldn't believe, true it does have it's quirks and such, but it's a great device to use, nonetheless

[Q] From IOS to Android 4.0

Hello
I am a current iphone 4 user (jailbroken ) and like many other i am very much tempted by the Galaxy S3.
I've read a couple of thread on this forum about moving from ios to iphone however none really answers my main concerns.
A quick question: I read somewhere ( On lifehacker, msg me if you want to full link , its my first post so im not allowed to paste URLs) that all in all JAILBROKEN iphone is better at customization than Android.
Probably not out of the box but mainly because :"... rooting is about as big of a headache as breaking into a bank vault with a safety pin. You have over 100 different Android phones out there, each with its own rooting method, caveats, and risks that you have to research. It's so annoying that we had to turn our rooting guide into a guide for only the top 10 phones, in addition to tacking on an exhaustive glossary of all the crap you have to know before starting the process. "
On iphone , i have cydia. meaning i can install / remove tweaks one at a time without the need to root the whole damn device for a single feature every time.
My question to the pros and/or those who already did the migration.... Do you really miss some tweaking capabilities ? is everything really easier on a jailbroken iphone ?
Thanks , my first post
bebseh said:
Hello
I am a current iphone 4 user (jailbroken ) and like many other i am very much tempted by the Galaxy S3.
I've read a couple of thread on this forum about moving from ios to iphone however none really answers my main concerns.
A quick question: I read somewhere ( On lifehacker, msg me if you want to full link , its my first post so im not allowed to paste URLs) that all in all JAILBROKEN iphone is better at customization than Android.
Probably not out of the box but mainly because :"... rooting is about as big of a headache as breaking into a bank vault with a safety pin. You have over 100 different Android phones out there, each with its own rooting method, caveats, and risks that you have to research. It's so annoying that we had to turn our rooting guide into a guide for only the top 10 phones, in addition to tacking on an exhaustive glossary of all the crap you have to know before starting the process. "
On iphone , i have cydia. meaning i can install / remove tweaks one at a time without the need to root the whole damn device for a single feature every time.
My question to the pros and/or those who already did the migration.... Do you really miss some tweaking capabilities ? is everything really easier on a jailbroken iphone ?
Thanks , my first post
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The only thing true from that statement is that a different rooting method may be required for a different device. An iPhone (jailbroken or not) can never be as customizable as an android device (sometimes even stock). You do not have to "root a device...for a single feature every time." Once you root a device (and don't unroot - intentionally, firmware update, ect.), you will never have to root it again. For android, there are no missing tweaking capabilities - you can do anything you want (unlike the iPhone).
You should go with the Samsung Galaxy S III, you'll like it over the iPhone. It will be easy to root or add a custom rom to. I will be getting it, but currently have the Samsung Galaxy S II on Sprint and it has been very easy to hack. Some things are even automatic! Android has a wider range of what you can do with it too.
Thank you for your info
If some of you are ex-ios users, could you please let me know what options from ios you miss the most ?
<b>Thank you for your info<br />
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If some of you are ex-ios users, could you please let me know what options from ios you miss the most ?</b>
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I wouldn't classify myself as an "ex-ios user", but I have used many iPhones/iPod touches. To be honest, I really don't miss any options from iOS (most of them - and many more - are included in android). The only thing (more like a variety instead of "option") is that iOS usually gets more games than android (or at least gets them first).
Since you already did a jailbreak, we'll assume you are technically competent.
Your first steps after root (AR) will be slow, so as not to screw anything up too badly. Keep xda handy, just in case. Look at Droid-life. They'll be all over the SGS3.
Eventually, you'll wonder why you didn't act sooner.
Enjoy!
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bebseh said:
Hello
I am a current iphone 4 user (jailbroken ) and like many other i am very much tempted by the Galaxy S3.
I've read a couple of thread on this forum about moving from ios to iphone however none really answers my main concerns.
A quick question: I read somewhere ( On lifehacker, msg me if you want to full link , its my first post so im not allowed to paste URLs) that all in all JAILBROKEN iphone is better at customization than Android.
Probably not out of the box but mainly because :"... rooting is about as big of a headache as breaking into a bank vault with a safety pin. You have over 100 different Android phones out there, each with its own rooting method, caveats, and risks that you have to research. It's so annoying that we had to turn our rooting guide into a guide for only the top 10 phones, in addition to tacking on an exhaustive glossary of all the crap you have to know before starting the process. "
On iphone , i have cydia. meaning i can install / remove tweaks one at a time without the need to root the whole damn device for a single feature every time.
My question to the pros and/or those who already did the migration.... Do you really miss some tweaking capabilities ? is everything really easier on a jailbroken iphone ?
Thanks , my first post
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bebseh said:
Thank you for your info
If some of you are ex-ios users, could you please let me know what options from ios you miss the most ?
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In my opinion iOS is almost perfect. And Android has yet to reach that point. This the reason that Apple fights jailbreaking its phones with so much commitment. Whereas, Google and manufacturers really encourage the development of android. iPhone is extremely smooth in operation and function whereas to achieve that on 95 percent of Android phones, you'd have to install a custom rom which might still be in testing stage and still not perfect. Even if you remove all the bloatware on android phones manually, it will still be not as fast as a custom rom. So in short, Apple has perfected their platform for the iPhone whereas Google has yet to do so. But thats where the fun lies, in experimenting with things you don't know. So the feature I miss the most would be an opportunity to experiment a great deal, which is there in Android but not in iOS. But if you look at hardware specs, SIII definitely takes the cake cos its quad core. Apple already has the smoothest performing device but imo, it will soon respond to that. Also, many apps are made first for iOS and then for Android. Lastly, Android devices confuse the customer because there is so much of pointless variation in devices whereas there is just one great iPhone. So you have to keep that in mind as well
bebseh said:
Hello
I am a current iphone 4 user (jailbroken ) and like many other i am very much tempted by the Galaxy S3.
I've read a couple of thread on this forum about moving from ios to iphone however none really answers my main concerns.
A quick question: I read somewhere ( On lifehacker, msg me if you want to full link , its my first post so im not allowed to paste URLs) that all in all JAILBROKEN iphone is better at customization than Android.
Probably not out of the box but mainly because :"... rooting is about as big of a headache as breaking into a bank vault with a safety pin. You have over 100 different Android phones out there, each with its own rooting method, caveats, and risks that you have to research. It's so annoying that we had to turn our rooting guide into a guide for only the top 10 phones, in addition to tacking on an exhaustive glossary of all the crap you have to know before starting the process. "
On iphone , i have cydia. meaning i can install / remove tweaks one at a time without the need to root the whole damn device for a single feature every time.
My question to the pros and/or those who already did the migration.... Do you really miss some tweaking capabilities ? is everything really easier on a jailbroken iphone ?
Thanks , my first post
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A jailbreak will never compare to stock ice cream sandwitch in a galaxy nexus (Google Phone) in customization. Sure ios is more fluid,but then,it's only the one list of apps. It's simplicity is why it can never be properly compared to android. Android isn't complex though,it's just fun. Ios is your granpa with wisdom and unlimited long sleeved shirts. Android is you're cool uncle with tatoos and a Harley. Totally different, but both have their appeal.
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Also I think it's much more practical to have all your tweaks and hacks available in one place ( cydia ) then having to go read countless forums in search for one....
is it true ?
bebseh said:
Also I think it's much more practical to have all your tweaks and hacks available in one place ( cydia ) then having to go read countless forums in search for one....
is it true ?
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Not possible. Different devices have different tweaks and hacks. Plus, the android tweaks are much different. It's not just some overlay to make your phone look different...some of them make deep deep changes to your entire system.
The type of customization you are talking about can be done through the play store. Just install a new launcher and each launcher has tons of themes available.
Sora3004 said:
In my opinion iOS is almost perfect. And Android has yet to reach that point. This the reason that Apple fights jailbreaking its phones with so much commitment. Whereas, Google and manufacturers really encourage the development of android. iPhone is extremely smooth in operation and function whereas to achieve that on 95 percent of Android phones, you'd have to install a custom rom which might still be in testing stage and still not perfect. Even if you remove all the bloatware on android phones manually, it will still be not as fast as a custom rom. So in short, Apple has perfected their platform for the iPhone whereas Google has yet to do so. But thats where the fun lies, in experimenting with things you don't know. So the feature I miss the most would be an opportunity to experiment a great deal, which is there in Android but not in iOS. But if you look at hardware specs, SIII definitely takes the cake cos its quad core. Apple already has the smoothest performing device but imo, it will soon respond to that. Also, many apps are made first for iOS and then for Android. Lastly, Android devices confuse the customer because there is so much of pointless variation in devices whereas there is just one great iPhone. So you have to keep that in mind as well
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I NEVER owned an Iphone and only use nothing but android phone up until I have my new Ipad. My current devices are, Sprint Evo 4G LTE (sprint version of one x), Motorola xoom, and the new ipad. My wife have the Og EVO 4g, daughter with the Epic 4G and my son now have the Ipod touch 4th generation.
As you can see in my household Android rule and I have quite a bit of experience with android rooting and customization. Can't speak for the IOS in the Iphone (I'm assuming there the same) but up unitl I purchase the new Ipad and was swore that Android devices is so much better in customization than IOS, I was wrong. After jailbreaking my new Ipad and still learning all the tweak you can do inside cydia, it is so enjoyable and effortless, not saying android isn't fun, it is indeed.
What I like about IOS over android is how opitmized each and every apps that is out for both platform. Every apps and games I played on IOS that are also on Android runs ten times better than android. Were talking about web browsing to 3d games everything is silky smooth. Heck even my son jailbreak Ipod is very smooth compare to my flagship android Evo 4G LTE. I will continue to use both platform as long as it suit my needs but my advice is don't give up one platform for another just because of what you've heard. Try it out first and then asked yourself which platform you've perferred the most. For me I like them both in there own ways, just my two cents.
Apple is a closed system ... This is why having an iPhone is a true custom galley ... iTunes update every week day with the jailbreak that jumps ... Short! The big ****!
Since I bought my first Android phone (Nexus S), I found my freedom, I can customize as much as I want my phone. The act of unlocking the phone is primarily for setting much further and for a fan of flash and custom system (custom rom, Cyanogen, MIUI,...).
After a lot cheaper and just as powerful and polyvalant, with a better overlay, Verily I advise you the HTC One X or One S.
The Galaxy S III looks good but I have trouble with the side too plastic and fingerprints at will ... The AMOLED screen is for me to lower quality than the SLCD.
GS3: AMOLED+
HTC ONE X: Super LCD
With my "HTC One X," I month, I am delighted, only a little autonomy default. Side and top design is integrated with the battery.
bebseh said:
Also I think it's much more practical to have all your tweaks and hacks available in one place ( cydia ) then having to go read countless forums in search for one....
is it true ?
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Xda has everything in one place. no?
Great
In android there are good and bad sides.
Bad is that there are still lag, bugs and shut down. But greater side there is many phones you can choose and Specs are better than iPhone 4. There are 1 major thing that annoys my gear that is: there is so many phones and so few updates, like in old phones there is no update to Android 4.0, but in iOS there is that iPhone 3g have iOS 5.0. Few games dont run in android to There are complicated parts and great parts about android
From what I understand, out of the box android is much more "customizable" , but apps and games look much better on IOS ( and is a much more stable system )
bebseh said:
From what I understand, out of the box android is much more "customizable" , but apps and games look much better on IOS ( and is a much more stable system )
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An original system in Ice Cream Sandwich as well as a running IOS, games and application included. There had gaps before, but now Google has caught up.
bebseh said:
Also I think it's much more practical to have all your tweaks and hacks available in one place ( cydia ) then having to go read countless forums in search for one....
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I don't see what your worried about. Just find the xda wiki for your device and everything is right there. Most devices have easy peasy hacking tools (one click everything is installed) and some of the stuff you have to hack your iPhone for (themes,a keyboard change) is stock android. You might even not want to bother with rooting your android phone for a while.
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Will rooting make my phone generally faster ?
because its IOS its the other way around. jailbreaking tends to slow down ur phone
Rooting will alloy you to modify anything and everything, basically. Otherthings to note that make most android devices better, ability to remove battery without voiding warranty/worrying about killing your phone, most have mSD slot for expandable/removable additional memory, LARGER screens, some have physical keyboards, no iTUNES BS!!!, can plug in and drag/drop anything everything you want, more custom roms than you know what to do with, etc. The list goes on and on. I have never/will never own an iFail device. Have used them, and I have to say even my pretty basic media/music players are WAY less compicated than iFail devices. If you want to "sync" to more than one computer, NO PROBLEM, You want to flash a new rom/radio, etc, NO PROBLEM.
Even if there is no physicaly qwerty keyboard, it is nice having more than one button to do all the work.
For me, being a PC person (mostly Linux, some Windoze) having to iTunes just to be able to "sync", modify, load, whatever on to a device is recockulous.
Besides the fact, that you can almost buy a NEW, no extended contract phone for the price of an iFail with a contract should tell you something as well.
bebseh said:
Will rooting make my phone generally faster ?
because its IOS its the other way around. jailbreaking tends to slow down ur phone
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Big yes,it's one of the major reasons people are willing to void their warranty. Lag fixes are a big part of custom roms, some even remove android features just to hit impossible benchmarks and fluidity. Of course, a good balance of features and speed is my recommendation,you'll love it.
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First Impression of Android?

What was your first impression of the Android OS? Mine was a paranoid thought of an OS named Android....thinking it would be a form of social control.....
I found out about it from television ads regarding different model cell phones. When I finally saw the UI, my first thought was an iOS ripoff. That seems like such a long time ago. Now I know better and I'm thankful for such a widespread open source OS that is smashing barriers as we speak!
What was your first initial impression?
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My first Android powered phone was a Motorola Defy. Of course I didn't know anything about it, not even how it looked like. First, I thought it was just a weird name for an OS, but now things have changed. I can do just about anything with it. This is what Android is all about!
Adinaky said:
First, I thought it was just a weird name for an OS, but now things have changed. I can do just about anything with it. This is what Android is all about!
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Well said!
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It was awesome, so much possibilities, apps, customizing options,... but then I rooted my android phone, flashed newer android versions and had a lot of fun doing it. Android is awesome.
Before using it, I thought it was microsoft's attempt to compete with apple's os.
I've always wanted to have any Android device but when I got it... I felt disappointed. Why? Because Samsung just forgot about my phone and I didn't get any upgrade! And then I found xda and just fall in love with Android OS
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Pattttti said:
I've always wanted to have any Android device but when I got it... I felt disappointed. Why? Because Samsung just forgot about my phone and I didn't get any upgrade! And then I found xda and just fall in love with Android OS
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The same here, if i had to stay with gingerbread it would not have been so awesome as it is now.
Exactly! And in fact - I'm flashoholic now
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Pattttti said:
Exactly! And in fact - I'm flashoholic now
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Lol......yeah me too.....my name is Chris and I'm a flashoholic
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Very serious case of flashoholism in my case.
Freedom in all ways...
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Very serious case of flashoholism in my case.
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Lol....but in all seriousness....once I quickly learned what Android was like, it blew me away. I was totally turned off of the iOS when I received an iPod touch in December of 2009. I'll admit the device itself was pretty cool (hardware wise) and seemed "high tech" to me at the time. The UI was smooth and the display was bright and clear.
After that initial "wowness" wore off it was time to get down to business with one of the aspects of the device, playing music files. I quickly learned that the files had to be in the .aac format which was a little irritating but after some reading I learned that I would have to download the iTunes PC application for music conversion and other tasks. Finally downloaded the PC application and learned I would HAVE to input a credit or debit card number to set up an iTunes account to get free apps. At that point I knew nothing about newer gadgets. So I got rid of the iPod because I refused to enter in that information.
Android on the other hand is not like that, mp3s play, real free software w/o strings attached and a lot more options!
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guitarman2010 said:
Lol....but in all seriousness....once I quickly learned what Android was like, it blew me away. I was totally turned off of the iOS when I received an iPod touch in December of 2009. I'll admit the device itself was pretty cool (hardware wise) and seemed "high tech" to me at the time. The UI was smooth and the display was bright and clear.
After that initial "wowness" wore off it was time to get down to business with one of the aspects of the device, playing music files. I quickly learned that the files had to be in the .aac format which was a little irritating but after some reading I learned that I would have to download the iTunes PC application for music conversion and other tasks. Finally downloaded the PC application and learned I would HAVE to input a credit or debit card number to set up an iTunes account to get free apps. At that point I knew nothing about newer gadgets. So I got rid of the iPod because I refused to enter in that information.
Android on the other hand is not like that, mp3s play, real free software w/o strings attached and a lot more options!
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i absolutly not want to enter the nest of a discussion about andoid and ios, i own both, i preferr android, so much prefer it, but to my mother i will always give an iphone if i have to chose. but about what you said about file format-itunes-app store account issue, i can tell you by experience that any ipod and ios device plays mp3. i'm listening an mp3 right now from my iphone. yes you need itunes to upload music to any apple device, it is irritting but is their way to say "i sell your music dear musician and also protecting them from illegal reproduction on my device" butyou can add any mp3 without itunes asking anything. also you can, as i have done, deactivate the convertion to aac, and set convertion to mp3 or also to not convert new files added to library. last thing i have credit card just from this year, and own my iphone by near 2 years, and i have downloaded plenty of free apps without giving any credit card number, when it ask just hit, as on google play, add credit card later!
this said the way android works in this aspects is better for me, and probably overall. but what you said was not completly true.
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first impression on my Galaxy S Plus: crap it's damn slooooowwwww! then discovered xda! and turned it to crappy samsung software to always better and better custom rom! thanks guys to redefine android as it should be! :laugh:
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i absolutly not want to enter the nest of a discussion about andoid and ios, i own both, i preferr android, so much prefer it, but to my mother i will always give an iphone if i have to chose. but about what you said about file format-itunes-app store account issue, i can tell you by experience that any ipod and ios device plays mp3. i'm listening an mp3 right now from my iphone. yes you need itunes to upload music to any apple device, it is irritting but is their way to say "i sell your music dear musician and also protecting them from illegal reproduction on my device" butyou can add any mp3 without itunes asking anything. also you can, as i have done, deactivate the convertion to aac, and set convertion to mp3 or also to not convert new files added to library. last thing i have credit card just from this year, and own my iphone by near 2 years, and i have downloaded plenty of free apps without giving any credit card number, when it ask just hit, as on google play, add credit card later!
this said the way android works in this aspects is better for me, and probably overall. but what you said was not completly true.
Back to topic:
first impression on my Galaxy S Plus: crap it's damn slooooowwwww! then discovered xda! and turned it to crappy samsung software to always better and better custom rom! thanks guys to redefine android as it should be! :laugh:
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I wish I would've known some of that when I had the device lol. Like I stated earlier, at that point in time I didn't know hardly anything about newer gadgets of the time.....I was used to old Palm Pilots and such. When I finally got a color screen pda early in 2009 I thought it was super high tech because for one it actually had color and two, it had WiFi but it was already 3 years out of date!
Oh well, who knows, if I would have kept the iPod I might've turned into an Applenaut but instead found Android. Maybe the correct way of saying it is Android found me.
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I wish I would've known some of that when I had the device lol. Like I stated earlier, at that point in time I didn't know hardly anything about newer gadgets of the time.....I was used to old Palm Pilots and such. When I finally got a color screen pda early in 2009 I thought it was super high tech because for one it actually had color and two, it had WiFi but it was already 3 years out of date!
Oh well, who knows, if I would have kept the iPod I might've turned into an Applenaut but instead found Android. Maybe the correct way of saying it is Android found me.
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We had experiences with the iPhone 3G and wow it was pretty great. Then one of us got the Galaxy S Captivate and it was really great as well. Data with HSPA+ just blew the iPhone away; no contest. And now we have this Apple vs Android battle all over the globe but when we started playing around with Android Dev boards (BeagleBoard for example) and with mainline Linux vs Android, the opportunities for communities to just tear open the commercial market are pushing mobile computing in such a great direction.
The turning point for us was being able to take a microSD with android putting it into the BeagleBoard, having it run; and then subsequently taking it out, putting another microSD card in it this time with Linux compiled for ARM with Arch Linux. At that point, we saw Android in a completely different light. I mean the plug and play abilities of those peripheral drivers alone...having that kind of device knowing that the backing to it is largely a Linux device kind of instills a level of confidence in both security (by the nature of open source whistle blowers) and in performance. Can't wait til Android becomes more than just a phone/tablet OS...give us more Android watches, Android clocks, Android cars; perhaps not in it's current implementation, but a derivative thereof. I personally will take Android and everything it stands for over Apple products that we can't tinker with.
Flexible and customizable :good: but laggy and unstable... :bad:
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Flexible and customizable :good: but laggy and unstable... :bad:
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Personally I blame the OEMs. If done right, Android would be no different in lag/latency down to the low level code than a well built JVM on top of a Linux kernel. But as a consumer...I agree; it is unfortunate that Android is subject to bad software design and to make it worse, Android is open to bad design down to the implementation of the SDK.
Overall though I think I would rather encourage Android to get cleaner than Apple to get more open.
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What was your first impression of the Android OS? Mine was a paranoid thought of an OS named Android....thinking it would be a form of social control.....
I found out about it from television ads regarding different model cell phones. When I finally saw the UI, my first thought was an iOS ripoff. That seems like such a long time ago. Now I know better and I'm thankful for such a widespread open source OS that is smashing barriers as we speak!
What was your first initial impression?
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in all honesty i was blown away by the change in everything (came from apple)
ArcDatum said:
I personally will take Android and everything it stands for over Apple products that we can't tinker with.
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I will agree with you on that comment. Apple's iOS brings thoughts of claustrophobia to my mind lol
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can flash rom all the times

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