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Root InFocus M330 (And Some Other InFocus Devices) With SuperSU

Hello everyone, today I'll teach you how to root your InFocus M330 and maybe other devices too in this tutorial. I know that there are many threads about rooting devices but rooting this kind of device which has a locked Bootloader is very difficult. Although, the Chinese rooting tool iRoot works on almost any device but still, people prefer SuperSU more
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Disclaimer
I won't be responsible if you brick your device. Although this happens very rarely but still, proceed on your own risk.
Note
Doing this will void your warranty.
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So, saying this, let's get started.
Step 1
Go to the Kingo Root official website and download KingoRoot.apk (I know that this tutorial is about installing SuperSU but this step is very important to get that) and install it.
Step 2
Click on One Click Root and then it'll get your device rooted with the Kingo SuperUser app. Now, reboot your device.
Step 3
Go to this page and download the Replace_Kingroot_With_SuperSU.zip new version.
Step 4
Extract the mrw folder in your phone storage's root and then go download Terminal Emulator.
Step 5
Now, open Terminal Emulator and then type su then the Kingo SuperUser will prompt you to either allow or disallow the root access, select Allow. Then, type in the terminal sh /sdcard/mrw/root.sh. Now, the script will do it's stuff and then it'll launch SuperSU.
Step 5
After it launches SuperSU, it'll ask you to Update the SU Binary. Update it using the Normal mode and then reboot your device.
Step 6
Voilà! Now SuperSU is fully functional in your device. But, the problem is that there's Kingo SuperUser still installed. To remove it, open Kingo SuperUser and then click on the three dots in the top-right corner. It'll open the Settings. From there, choose Remove Root (Don't worry, this will only remove the Kingo SuperUser, SuperSU will still be functional and won't get removed).
Step 7
After removing Kingo SuperUser, reboot your device.
Step 8
After rebooting, open SuperSU, now it'll again prompt you to Update the SU Binary. Just do it and then reboot the device again.
Step 9 (Optional)
Open SuperSU and then in the Settings tab, scroll down until you see Install SuperSU into /system. Confirm the action and then reboot your device again.
Conclusion
So, after a tremendous amount of reboots and following all the steps, this will root your InFocus M330 with SuperSU and then you can enjoy all the benefits of this awesome root-handler
So, that's all for today people, Peace!

Hey
It did not work for InFocus M530. I couldn't install SuperSU .can help to install a custom recovery

Akshay.jak said:
It did not work for InFocus M530. I couldn't install SuperSU .can help to install a custom recovery
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Can you please describe your problem that's coming?

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The king root app gets deleted but SuperSU is not installed . can you help

Akshay.jak said:
The king root app gets deleted but SuperSU is not installed . can you help
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Try installing SuperSU manually from Play Store.

Guys You can now root Infocus M530/with kingroot . And to make a backup of stock ROM , download 'Flashify ' app from play store.

Tejas C Shekar said:
Guys You can now root Infocus M530/with kingroot . And to make a backup of stock ROM , download 'Flashify ' app from play store.
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That was possible from before, doing it with the SuperSU app is much more complex, that's why I posted this

i followed all steps perfectly . .but when i type in terminal sh/sdcard/mrw/root.sh and click ok ... it says not found .. why plz help me

nik0096 said:
i followed all steps perfectly . .but when i type in terminal sh/sdcard/mrw/root.sh and click ok ... it says not found .. why plz help me
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you should give space between sh and / i.e. sh /sdcard/mrw/root.sh

How to improve root success rate with Kingroot PC (Almost all devices) (2.x-6.0)

Hello everyone.
I found out how to improve root success rate. This was done on my brother's phone Sony Xperia E4 (latest firmware) after many failed attempts.
Disable Driver Signature Verification (Windows 8/10 only!):
[*]Go to advanced boot and disable driver signature check. TUTORIAL
Disable Antivirus, Firewall and Cleaner apps:
Disable Antivirus + Firewall on your computer. If you are using Comodo, please uninstall it. It still block some programs even it is disabled.
Turn off or uninstall Antivirus and cleaner app on your Android device
[*Turn off or uninstall Task manager on your Android device
Close all running Android emulators
Disconnect other devices from your computer
On your device, open Google Settings from app drawer, -> Security -> and disable "Scan device for security threads"
Unlock developer options and enable USB debugger on your device:
On your device, go to Settings > About phone and look at the "Build number".
Tap on the "Build number" many times until it says "You are now a developer!"
Go back to settings, scroll down, and go to "Developer options"
Enable "USB-debugging"
Ready? Let's start rooting your device:
On your PC, download ADB driver (Universal): DOWNLOAD LINK
Connect your device to your PC
On your device, allow debugging/fingerprint (if asked)
Download KingRoot for Windows, and install it DOWNLOAD LINK
Open Kingroot, and let it check your device model
Now start rooting and let it run. Don't multitask something on your PC during root.
If Kingroot failed to root your phone, DO NOT PANIC!
Close Kingroot, open Task manager and make sure adb.exe and kingroot.exe are closed
Open Kingroot and re-root again
Kingroot should tell you that your phone is successfully rooted
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F.A.Q
Q: My device reboot serveral times during rooting, why?
* Kingroot have many root exploit methods to root almost all devices. If one of the root exploit failed to root your device, and not vulnerable, Kingroot will reboot your device and looking for other vulnerability (i'm not sure how it works)
This was done with Sony Xperia E4. The 4th vulnerability was found in that device and Kingroot was able to root it.
1. If the first exploit failed to root your phone and reboot, the message "your phone is not vulnerable" will appear, and Kingroot will try second exploit
2. If the second exploit failed to root your phone and reboot, Kingroot will try third exploit.
3. If the third exploit failed to root your phone and reboot, Kingroot will try fourth exploit.
4. Kingroot successfully rooted my device.
Q: My device freezing during root at %50-60, why?
I'm not really sure why it happen on some devices. Please do the following:
1. DO NOT CLOSE KINGROOT
2. Hold the power button for 10 seconds to turn off your device
3. Turn on your device, and Kingroot will resume
Q: Root failed. What to do?
Never Get Pissed! Take a deep breath. If still feel pissed, take a deeper one. Try again.
Remember. If you have updated your firmware to the latest version via OTA (Over The Air), you have less root success rate.
Make sure Google security and Anti-virus is disabled on your device
Q: Root succeed with no Kingroot installed?
Two causes may be:
There is some additional protection on your device. (Occurs often on carrier-specific models like AT&T, or Manufacturers like HUAWEI)
Something goes wrong with Kingroot.
There is no easy fix on the first cause. As to the second, please try and manually install Kingroot application from kingroot.net.
Q: /system partition is still Read-only.
Probarly the kernel that protect /system partition from bricking. I don't know how to fix it. You should try root your device again to see if you get Read-write in /system partition
Is Kingroot malware? Why detected by antivirus software as malicious?
The answer to this question may appear to be "he says what he says...". As stated before, the core of Kingroot rooting your device is through exploiting system vulnerabilities/security loopholes, which is and will always be "dangerous" to antivirus softwares. But in turn, using Kingroot to root your device is your choice, and you are the one to employ these "dangerous" vulnerabilities, not being threatened by them. So rest assured.
Q: Kingroot tells me that i don't have internet connection (WiFi error icon). How do i do?
1. Close KingRoot
2. Open Task Manager
3. End process of adb.exe and kingroot.exe
Or try another method
fire3element said:
Hello everyone.
I am the user that originally found that running apps in the background helped KingRoot achieve root with higher success rate.
My original test was using a game "CounterSpy" and game console emulator app "PPSSPP". I ran the game Final Fantasy Type-0 in the PPSSPP emulator along with the CounterSpy game. Root was achieved within 2 attempts.
Fast forward to today (after many many tests). My original device was broken during testing. I have purchased a new device and run 3 phone benchmark apps along with KingRoot.
Antutu, Quadrant, and Geek Bench. Ran all 3 apps, ran KingRoot, phone rebooted once. No root yet. Force Stopped KingRoot from Settings (did not clear cache or data), ran 3 apps again and KingRoot. Phone Root Success.
One thing that you need to keep in mind. If your phone has a built in Task Manager app, you need to go into Settings > Apps > All > [Task Manager] and FORCE STOP it before trying to run those apps and KingRoot.
If you do not, the Task Killer will try to close those programs as you leave them to run another. Thus, the app will not be loading the system with tasks, ultimately not helping.
Your task killer might be named different on your device. It varies from manufacturer (Samsung, HTC, Motorola, etc.)
All this was done on my ZTE Zmax. I have also attempted this on a Moto E (XT830C - Tracfone model) and it did not work.
I can not explain with facts as to how or why this works. It was only a theory that proved to be effective.
It can be very hit or miss. All you can do is try.
Good Luck.
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Any idea why the desktop app is in chinese? Last time i tried it was in english, and i used the website in english not chinese.

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Thanks, I can do that and reply after!

skl_andrey said:
Any idea why the desktop app is in chinese? Last time i tried it was in english, and i used the website in english not chinese.
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i have no idea. mine was in chinese. contact Kingroot at Facebook about it

evildog1 said:
i have no idea. mine was in chinese. contact Kingroot at Facebook about it
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Contacted them already, they dont reply most of the times.

skl_andrey said:
Contacted them already, they dont reply most of the times.
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ok then i ask them

Thanks

When I start the purifie part in the beginning it always says failed!! Why??

Does it work on wine? If not, what happens?
I need your good answer about the following question!
Thanks

does it work in windows 7?

[PATCHED] Rooting Bluestacks 1 & 2 (0.10.x / 2.x.x) with Kingroot app

Kingroot 4.x and 5.x DOES NOT WORK ANYMORE! The Bluestacks team patched root exploit in their kernel to make Pokemon GO work with Bluestacks but Pokemon GO no longer work after 2 days. They really wasted their time.
Since version 0.9.0, I discovered an exploit to root Bluestacks (we can call it a semi-root) which allow you to grant root access without Kingroot and SuperSU, but the /system partition is Write-protected (R/O) and Kingroot wasn't able to root Bluestacks.
You can access /data without any problem. In following releases, the write-protection in /system partition has been removed, which means Bluestacks is pre-rooted (Exploit).
Without Superuser, some apps which requires Root permissions may not work thinking your device is unrooted.
Forget the BS-Multi-Tool and BSeasy, and the modded offline installer which have crappy Galaxy S4 settings app, and bloatwares. Rooting the Bluestacks now takes only 10 seconds to root and it doesn't need any external PC softwares!
If you don't like Kingroot, simply don't root to keep semi-root, or switch to SuperSU.
PLEASE READ!!! DO NOT TRY TO ROOT BLUESTACKS WITH SUPERSU APP. YOU WILL LOSE ROOT PERMISSIONS, INCLUDING LOSS OF SEMI-ROOT EXPLOIT.
Download Bluestacks 2 at: http://www.bluestacks.com/
Don't like Bluestacks 2? Download classic Bluestacks instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/BlueStacks_App_Player
LET'S ROOT THE BLUESTACKS!
Youtube video Tutorial about how to Root Bluestacks 2: https://youtu.be/Ltj6wFFQ36k
If you do have normal version of Bluestacks instead, take a look here: https://youtu.be/oanPUahsn9Q
1. Launch Bluestacks
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2. Download Kingroot app for Android from here: http://www.kingroot.net/?myLocale=en_US
(NOTE: Some browsers blocks Kingroot from downloading. Add it to the whitelist, to prevent any issues)
3. Double-click on the APK file to install the app into the Bluestacks
4. You'll see the Kingroot app in the app drawer, open it.
5. Tap on "Root status failed" to begin the rooting process
6. Rooting will take 5-10 SECONDS! After rooting, you will see a message like this:
7. That's it. Bluestacks is now rooted.
IMPORTANT. Do not open any app which asks you to restart the device. Pressing restart will UNROOT Bluestacks and the good hidden semi-root exploit will be GONE FOREVER until you reinstall Bluestacks.
8. Test root access on any apps to see if it works.
9. Close the Bluestacks, and reboot your computer to take effect.
Now enjoy your 100% full root access on Bluestacks. You can finally use GameGuardian on Bluestacks to hack any offline games without the use Cheat Engine or similar external softwares!
Credits:
iAndroHacker (Evildog1) (Created this tutorial)
Sbenny (Tweaked my grammar)

hmm. no one interested in rooting Bluestacks

evildog1 said:
hmm. no one interested in rooting Bluestacks
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I'm, but I don't trust KingRoot.

artheseus said:
I'm, but I don't trust KingRoot.
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Yeah, and i noticed that Kingroot have permission to use camera, pair with Bluetooth, etc... KingRoot isn't replying to my email after 2015 so i think they are doing something illegal

evildog1 said:
Yeah, and i noticed that Kingroot have permission to use camera, pair with Bluetooth, etc... KingRoot isn't replying to my email after 2015 so i think they are doing something illegal
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The APK has 8MB, unpacked it has 12MB, that is a huge app IMO for something so simple as rooting,
Also it requests every single Android's permissions, I don't see the point for that.

I actually used this method to root bluestacks on my PC. Worked perfectly. Was able to use gameguardian to modify some games.

Thank you for a brief description as to Ruth

SuperSU on Alcatel 5040N/5040W One Touch FiERCE XL WORKS!

I have seen a lot of issues with soft bricking using SuperSU-Me and I have figured out the issue once and for all. Kingroot has been upset over the recent reputation attacks of their software and have disabled functionality of switching between Su applications. Just follow my steps and you'll be alright.
You're going to need a few files to get started, grab them from the attachment links at the bottom of this post.
1) Extract the mrw folder from "Replace_Kinguser_with_SuperSU-v2.4_2.zip" and place it onto the root of your INTERNAL STORAGE
2) Install the PROVIDED KINGROOT APK
3) Once step 1&2 are complete, navigate to the play store and download "Terminal Emulator"
4)Open Terminal Emulator and type "su" without quotations and grant root access.
5) Next, type sh /storage/sdcard0/mrw/root.sh
6) The process will take a minute and have a few error messages, DO NOT BE WORRIED
7) Open the Supersu app that was just installed and update binary, this should have no issues as the other methods have proven faulty.
8)Reboot and enjoy
Reason I did this was so I can use Flashfire to hopefully install Xposed, I'll let you know how it goes!

does not work... the kingroot app you provided Fails to root device.

cocokasper said:
does not work... the kingroot app you provided Fails to root device.
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Try again, many have rooted without issue.
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root
where exactly for the mrw folder in /root or / or /home?
questions already been answered :}

Works
thankyou this worked perfectly, am i to understand that kingroot is completely uninstalled ?

Dude, you are the ****ing man! Worked perfectly and was finally able to get SuperSu to download the binaries, thanks!!!

links not working
Are these downloads still active? They won't download, could be my device but I thought I'd make sure and ask

root worked for me.
brad2192 said:
I have seen a lot of issues with soft bricking using SuperSU-Me and I have figured out the issue once and for all. Kingroot has been upset over the recent reputation attacks of their software and have disabled functionality of switching between Su applications. Just follow my steps and you'll be alright.
You're going to need a few files to get started, grab them from the attachment links at the bottom of this post.
1) Extract the mrw folder from "Replace_Kinguser_with_SuperSU-v2.4_2.zip" and place it onto the root of your INTERNAL STORAGE
2) Install the PROVIDED KINGROOT APK
3) Once step 1&2 are complete, navigate to the play store and download "Terminal Emulator"
4)Open Terminal Emulator and type "su" without quotations and grant root access.
5) Next, type sh /storage/sdcard0/mrw/root.sh
6) The process will take a minute and have a few error messages, DO NOT BE WORRIED
7) Open the Supersu app that was just installed and update binary, this should have no issues as the other methods have proven faulty.
8)Reboot and enjoy
Reason I did this was so I can use Flashfire to hopefully install Xposed, I'll let you know how it goes!
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thank you for your help. great work

I cant find the root of internal storage can you explain how to do so? Just realized.I have 5045n is there one for it. Or a tut on how

brad2192 said:
I have seen a lot of issues with soft bricking using SuperSU-Me and I have figured out the issue once and for all. Kingroot has been upset over the recent reputation attacks of their software and have disabled functionality of switching between Su applications. Just follow my steps and you'll be alright.
You're going to need a few files to get started, grab them from the attachment links at the bottom of this post.
1) Extract the mrw folder from "Replace_Kinguser_with_SuperSU-v2.4_2.zip" and place it onto the root of your INTERNAL STORAGE
2) Install the PROVIDED KINGROOT APK
3) Once step 1&2 are complete, navigate to the play store and download "Terminal Emulator"
4)Open Terminal Emulator and type "su" without quotations and grant root access.
5) Next, type sh /storage/sdcard0/mrw/root.sh
6) The process will take a minute and have a few error messages, DO NOT BE WORRIED
7) Open the Supersu app that was just installed and update binary, this should have no issues as the other methods have proven faulty.
8)Reboot and enjoy
Reason I did this was so I can use Flashfire to hopefully install Xposed, I'll let you know how it goes!
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Took me 3 or 4 tries to root with KingRoot 4.1 on an Alcatel OT Elevate, reboots constantly while rooting. Will update you if I am successful replacing KingRoot with SuperSU
UPDATE:
1. I haven't rebooted yet. . . KingRoot is in its death throes before reboot, what remains is a KingRoot app icon in App Drawer, KingRoot folder, and config file on the root of internal storage.
2. SuperSU has primary control of root management, but. . .
second line in terminal (after running script):
Failure [DELETE_FAILED_INTERNAL_ERROR]
UPDATE: Ignore this error, upon reboot what remains of KingRoot will be removed, as in deleted. It is like KingRoot simply vanished (which it did). That includes that annoying icon in your phone's App Drawer. Failure [DELETE_FAILED_INTERNAL_ERROR] is the script leaving behind the KingRoot app/icon in App Drawer, and the folder at root on internal storage.
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3. I did a search using ES File Explorer in the /system/app folder. . . no searches found anything with the word "king" or "kinguser" in them, "Kingroot" folder still at root of internal storage. I am looking manually also in that /system/app & system/data folder in emulated storage 0. I see no Kinguser.apk, and nothing in data folder in emulated sdcard0. I have not rebooted the Alcatel OT Elevate yet after running the script.
UPDATE:
I no longer have concerns about bricking an Alcatel OT Elevate. There is like a 0.01% chance of a brick occuring using this method. If this was a perfect world I'd have said 0.00% chance, but I am telling you your phone will not brick.
UPDATE: I rebooted into safe mode, and still no sign of KingRoot, so I figured while I was at it I might as well boot normal boot. So, after normal boot I check the Elevate's system files and sure as rain is wet no sign of KingRoot. So, this script says "f%#@ you" to KingRoot and kicks it's ass, then kills it, and buries it in a very deep grave. R.I.P. KingRoot, thanks for the root, but you will so NOT be missed.
After Reboot:
Normal Boot, obviously:
To KingRoot:
You thought you had us Alcatel owners and others beat, but we are victorious!!! @Mr. W0lf Long live the King!!! King W0lf has a nice ring to it. Ya know?
PS.
Great thanks to King Chainfire as well!!! @Chainfire Long live Chainfire!!! SuperSU is THE shiznit.
LONG LIVE THE KING!!!
LONG LIVE THE KING!!!
LONG LIVE THE KING!!!
@brad2192 Thanks for the post

cocokasper said:
does not work... the kingroot app you provided Fails to root device.
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Does work, just have to keep trying with the provided KingRoot .apk Got it to work on an Alcatel OneTouch Elevate. No issues.

So everything goes well until it switches to SuperSU. It then says "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!" Help would be appreciated.

Jsjs51 said:
So everything goes well until it switches to SuperSU. It then says "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!" Help would be appreciated.
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I've got the same issue. Ever figure this out?

Rooting any android device and replacing KingUser with SuperSu (NEW METHOD)

Hey guys. This is my first post in XDA and its about how to root your phone. When I first rooted a device, I had to go through tons of articles because none of them made sense to me. Once I was done with it, I realized that rooting was not so complicated after all, and so to relieve you of the confusion I had, here is the ultimate rooting guide (noob friendly ).
Kingroot is a third party app that can root almost any device and it has a very high rate of success. The whole thread relies on this amazing app. The app is your best bet to root, unless you have a native root method for a phone. (Google it )
What you need:
1. Working internet connection on your device.
2. Lets download the other things later , move on
Procedure:
1. Install the latest version of Kingroot on your device.
2. The app will show your device's model and android version and will also check for root access. Tap on "ROOT" and let the magic happen. (You need to have a working internet connection to root with this app as it uses cloud services to find the best root exploits)
3. You now have root access. If you don't , tap the Root button again and ensure that your internet is working fine.
4. Root access obtained. :good: :good:
But that's not all. You now have kinguser as a root manager. Kinguser is full of features and bloatware and tend to slow your device. Most devs recommend a simpler, but efficient SuperSu . SuperSu is the best in business, and was developed by XDA fame Chainfire (Check out the apps he has to his name, its a gold mine).
Kinguser is a royal pain in the uh.... behind, because it doesn't allow you to switch to another manager, so now we have to bypass Kinguser to install SuperSu.
The easiest method to do this is by installing SuperSUme app. The app was developed by gatesjunior and it supposedly removes all traces of kingroot and installs SuperSu.
The SuperSume method has a very low rate of success and most of the time it ends up simply uninstalling Kingroot for some reason. If it doesn't work for you (like it didn't for me), no worries, just follow what I did.
Rooting is nothing but simply flashing the latest SuperSu.zip on your device from a custom recovery. All devices have a stock recovery for updating your firmware with official updates. The stock recovery, however, cannot be used for doing this, and so you need to find a custom recovery that works for you.
Installing a custom recovery without root is a nightmare, so I advise you to do as I did and bear with Kinguser until you install one.
Popular custom recoveries include TWRP (Team Win's Recovery Project), CWM (ClockWork Mod Recovery) and Philz .
TWRP is compatible for lots of devices so start from there. Search TWRP for your_device_model. The custom recovery will be downloadable as a recovery.img file. Download the file. (TWRP link in above paragraph)
The recovery.img file needs to be flashed now. There are lots of apps to flash zips, imgs etc. Use Flashify (for root users).
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Tap on Recovery Image under flash and select the recovery.img file you downloaded.
Congrats! You now have a Custom TWRP recovery.
Now, since you've gotten the recovery, you dont need KingRoot anymore. Open Kingroot and click on Uninstall Kingroot.
You don't have root access now, but it's only for a little while.
Get the latest SuperSu flashable zip from here
Download the latest ZIP not APK and save it in the root folder of your phone storage (Root folder - the outermost folder which contains the files).
Now, you might guess that we're going to flash the zip with Flashify, but we're going to do it ith our TWRP recovery because Flashify works only with root and you are not rooted ..... for now
Each device has a different key combination to access Recovery mode. Google Recovery mode for your_device.
Optional (recommended): I dont like pressing on the hardware buttons often, because they tend to break easily. If you fell the same way then you can download Quick Reboot app. The app allows you to reboot, reboot to recovery or safe mode, power off etc. and relieve your hardware buttons of all the tension. However, it requires root access and hence, cannot be used at this time.
Access recovery mode of your device and you will be greeted by the TWRP welcome screen.
Tap on Install and select the SuperSu.zip that you downloaded. Drag the dot on the bottom to the right end to install the zip (Swipe to install).
Now TWRP gives you a message saying success and an option to Reboot System. Tap on Reboot System.
Your device will boot and you will find SuperSu in your app drawer.
You have successfully obtained root access, installed a custom recovery, removed Kinguser and learnt a lot about rooting. :good::good:
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Nah
Buy a lenovo K33a48 or 42 and boom you will not able to do this with this phone

xsimo said:
Buy a lenovo K33a48 or 42 and boom you will not able to do this with this phone
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New method can be found at https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/2020-replace-kingroot-v5-x-or-kingo-root-with-supersu.3904880/
Not only those two....
Android version is important for this guide to work..
Upto Android 5.x (lollipop) this guide will work by trying multiple times...
If Beyond lolliop then this guide has very little chance...