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Hey everybody,
Got my GNote 10.1 yesterday and I had a blast last night (only had lil bit of sleep, and it continues tonight again). Order from Amazon two weeks ago, it got to my peeps in Miami last week, and it got to Belize 2 days ago.
What a difference compared to my previous ThinkPad tablet. It's really smooth and that's because I haven't tried my art apps yet. Hopefully Sketchbook Pro works better on this tab. Few questions tho:
1. Has anybody noticed that sometimes the tablet locks on pen only? This morning I had to restart the machine because it was only registering pen and touches every now and again. And I know, the pen was not close to the screen (it was right on my desk). Just want to know if this was isolated or I'll be having this intermittently.
2. I see my tablet came already with ICS 4.0.4 IMM76D.N8013UEALGB. I thought there a later firmware update, but I saw the thread that somehow it was pulled. My question is, I thought the tablet shipped with an earlier build number. Can it be a case where Amazon sent me an Open Box product, refurbished, or a tab that was previously owned and updated? The tablet box had both of its seals at the bottom of it torn but the box passed thru so many hands that I will never know if Amazon sent the box like that.
Thanks for reading, and glad being part of this community.
Ron

ron2k_1 said:
Hey everybody,
Got my GNote 10.1 yesterday and I had a blast last night (only had lil bit of sleep, and it continues tonight again). Order from Amazon two weeks ago, it got to my peeps in Miami last week, and it got to Belize 2 days ago.
What a difference compared to my previous ThinkPad tablet. It's really smooth and that's because I haven't tried my art apps yet. Hopefully Sketchbook Pro works better on this tab. Few questions tho:
1. Has anybody noticed that sometimes the tablet locks on pen only? This morning I had to restart the machine because it was only registering pen and touches every now and again. And I know, the pen was not close to the screen (it was right on my desk). Just want to know if this was isolated or I'll be having this intermittently.
2. I see my tablet came already with ICS 4.0.4 IMM76D.N8013UEALGB. I thought there a later firmware update, but I saw the thread that somehow it was pulled. My question is, I thought the tablet shipped with an earlier build number. Can it be a case where Amazon sent me an Open Box product, refurbished, or a tab that was previously owned and updated? The tablet box had both of its seals at the bottom of it torn but the box passed thru so many hands that I will never know if Amazon sent the box like that.
Thanks for reading, and glad being part of this community.
Ron
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Welcome on board! Glad you are enjoying your new Note.
1. This should not happen, I have only experienced this when the pen is near the screen as it should be.
2. If the seals were damaged, it is quite probable that it is a returned unit possibly due to the fault you described and the fact that the firmware has been upgraded.
If I were you, I would not take any chances and get the unit changed. The problems you described could be due to the firmware which is why it seems to have been pulled by Samsung.

HasC said:
Welcome on board! Glad you are enjoying your new Note.
1. This should not happen, I have only experienced this when the pen is near the screen as it should be.
2. If the seals were damaged, it is quite probable that it is a returned unit possibly due to the fault you described and the fact that the firmware has been upgraded.
If I were you, I would not take any chances and get the unit changed. The problems you described could be due to the firmware which is why it seems to have been pulled by Samsung.
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I contacted Amazon and the CSR says that the product is spanking new and I'm the first customer. I just bought it and had for only over a day, and if I want I can return it, but I live all the way in Belize and it's kinda pricey to Fedex stuff out to the US that way. Hopefully the screen freezing and not responding too well to touch (but the pen) was just momentary and is not a real issue. Having an updated firmware was kinda surprising to me too.
Thanks dude for the answers and the welcome.
Ron

Hey, Ron. Mine came with 4.04, and my seals were in tact, but nearly severed during shipping. There were a hundred little pieces of plastic on the tablet - if those were in tact I think you're safe that it is indeed new. Amazon doesn't ship used or refurbished unless it is a "Warehouse Deal". Any item bought through the regular site and sold by Amazon will be new.
I am unclear as to what you mean by "locks" in item 1. Please elaborate.
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BTW, Congrats! Hope you enjoy the tab. I love it. Butter smooth in comparison to the TPT.

toenail_flicker said:
Hey, Ron. Mine came with 4.04, and my seals were in tact, but nearly severed during shipping. There were a hundred little pieces of plastic on the tablet - if those were in tact I think you're safe that it is indeed new. Amazon doesn't ship used or refurbished unless it is a "Warehouse Deal". Any item bought through the regular site and sold by Amazon will be new.
I am unclear as to what you mean by "locks" in item 1. Please elaborate.
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BTW, Congrats! Hope you enjoy the tab. I love it. Butter smooth in comparison to the TPT.
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Hey dude!
Thanks for the welcome and thanks for the clarification. When I said "the screen locks..." I meant that the screen did not respond to touch; only to pen input. And as far I know I have not seen a pen-only input option on the tablet so I knew something wasn't right. But anyways, it hasn't done it since, so I think I'm safe.
Now, with the seals broken, it is possible that shipping did that, or Customs in the US, or the shipping company from Miami to Belize, or Customs in Belize... Probably I'll never know. However, I didn't see no hundreds of lil pieces of plastic in my box. Do you mean the shipping box or the Samsung tablet box? My shipping box had those air pockets sort of thing they put in boxes to absorb shocks. My Sammy box had nothing but the tablet on top.
Ron

But my tablet was protected with thin transparent plastic foils on the tablet, large ones and small ones, on the corners, ... If they were there (front and back) it is quite unprobable that someone already used the phone.
The problem of the non-responsive touch screen sounds like a modified rom (see the section here), did you root the device and if yes, how?

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But my tablet was protected with thin transparent plastic foils on the tablet, large ones and small ones, on the corners, ... If they were there (front and back) it is quite unprobable that someone already used the phone.
The problem of the non-responsive touch screen sounds like a modified rom (see the section here), did you root the device and if yes, how?
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Yeah, the tablet had litle transparent soft plastic stickers (covers) on the front, edges and back (if that is what you meant). My tablet is unrooted. I'm not that naive to technology and I'm quite a fanatic and deal with gadgets pretty well; but I haven't gathered the guts and enough research to root the tablet.
I read that few of them have been bricked and that there are issues when upgrading. So, I think I'll either pass or wait.
Thanks
Ron

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Hey dude!
Thanks for the welcome and thanks for the clarification. When I said "the screen locks..." I meant that the screen did not respond to touch; only to pen input. And as far I know I have not seen a pen-only input option on the tablet so I knew something wasn't right. But anyways, it hasn't done it since, so I think I'm safe.
Now, with the seals broken, it is possible that shipping did that, or Customs in the US, or the shipping company from Miami to Belize, or Customs in Belize... Probably I'll never know. However, I didn't see no hundreds of lil pieces of plastic in my box. Do you mean the shipping box or the Samsung tablet box? My shipping box had those air pockets sort of thing they put in boxes to absorb shocks. My Sammy box had nothing but the tablet on top.
Ron
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So, you have no touch capabilities, only pen? That's not right.
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What I meant by pieces of plastic is all the protective stickers covering the tab. There were so many that I was still finding them days later.

Original FlipCase Android 5.1.1

Hello Mates,
I noticed that Samsung changed the behaviour of the notification LED in coop with the original FlipCase.
The LED is turned off (and even 3rd party LED manager) are not able to drive it, when cover is closed.
So no I have to open the cover to check for Notifications...
As I made a custom whole in the cover over the LED I would love to revert this behaviour.
Any Ideas, proposals?

Why do you people always upgrade to the latest Android with Samsung phones without waiting? Samsung stops giving ****s about their phones immediately they release them. Was 5.1 a forced update? If it is, I need to start digging for a way to stop my lovely 4.4.4 kit kat Edge from upgrading. Works fine as is. I have heard nothing but complaints about the Rom updates.
This Flip Case deal just seems ridiculous and even more of a reason to disable any form of update I would get in the future

Hmm NVM. It appears even on 4.4.4 my LED notification all of a sudden quit lighting up with Flip Case. This is bizzarre. Does Samsung always work to screw over its customers like this?
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Edit: No it works. I just need to widen the hole on my flip case so I can see the LED. looks like its a 5.1 issue for you then

edo101 said:
Hmm NVM. It appears even on 4.4.4 my LED notification all of a sudden quit lighting up with Flip Case. This is bizzarre. Does Samsung always work to screw over its customers like this?
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Edit: No it works. I just need to widen the hole on my flip case so I can see the LED. looks like its a 5.1 issue for you then
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Little bit off topic but can you post a pic of the case you punctured a hole in? I was planning to do the same but couldn't gather the courage xD

zeeshanonlyme said:
Little bit off topic but can you post a pic of the case you punctured a hole in? I was planning to do the same but couldn't gather the courage xD
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Haven't done it. Yet but I don't suppose it would be rocket science lol. What I do for now is push the flip cover to the left to have the stock oval slit slide over the LED light area.

Essential phone weight theory

A while ago, i saw a post regarding the weight of the essential phone changed from the older devices. when i went to best buy to exchange it, it weighed noticeably heavier than the previous phone i had. also, the last phone had a slippery gloss and had problems. the new one i replaced hasnt given me a problem and im quite happy with it because some usual bugs others experienced.
i dont know what the weight of the last one is, but what i want to make a thread of is have your phone weighed, post the weight and reply with the list of issues and feel of the device. lets see if there theres any theory to this.
so my phone is:
.4lbs or 6.4 oz.
not that slippery compared to the last one
camera works pretty good
doesnt get hot easily, battery life lasts 5-6 hours on screen time

Interesting that phones would have different weights.
6.6 oz on a postal scale. Purchased yesterday, haven't started using it yet.

DrvLikHell said:
Interesting that phones would have different weights.
6.6 oz on a postal scale. Purchased yesterday, haven't started using it yet.
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Was that phone on the scale by itself?
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Yes, well, phone, sim card and original plastic film protector things that were on it in the box.

Anyone else?

If I had a way to measure I would, I'm curious. Mine is a white sprint variant and the finish is glossy but I'm not sure what to compare it to, it's not slippery though.

bavarianblessed said:
If I had a way to measure I would, I'm curious. Mine is a white sprint variant and the finish is glossy but I'm not sure what to compare it to, it's not slippery though.
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go to a deli or subway and weight it. even those fruit weights at the supermarket works

Jonathanlc2005 said:
A while ago, i saw a post regarding the weight of the essential phone changed from the older devices. when i went to best buy to exchange it, it weighed noticeably heavier than the previous phone i had. also, the last phone had a slippery gloss and had problems. the new one i replaced hasnt given me a problem and im quite happy with it because some usual bugs others experienced.
i dont know what the weight of the last one is, but what i want to make a thread of is have your phone weighed, post the weight and reply with the list of issues and feel of the device. lets see if there theres any theory to this.
so my phone is:
.4lbs or 6.4 oz.
not that slippery compared to the last one
camera works pretty good
doesnt get hot easily, battery life lasts 5-6 hours on screen time
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What is the hardware version!?

I'll try and weigh mine on my reloading scale tomorrow. HW version 18

renegadeMind said:
What is the hardware version!?
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I would assume probably the same because I threw away the box I think
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Halo Gray variant safe to buy?

Amazon recently added a Halo Gray variant to their listings and I know it comes with Alexa that can be removed but would there be any reason NOT to get this color? I wonder if it would be BETTER to get since it's probably a new hardware revision? I know it has the same internal specs as the others but I've heard some horror stories about the initial batch of the black ones and am wondering if that's still a concern.
I'm curious to know your thoughts!

JeauxAdam said:
Amazon recently added a Halo Gray variant to their listings and I know it comes with Alexa that can be removed but would there be any reason NOT to get this color? I wonder if it would be BETTER to get since it's probably a new hardware revision? I know it has the same internal specs as the others but I've heard some horror stories about the initial batch of the black ones and am wondering if that's still a concern.
I'm curious to know your thoughts!
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I'm not sure why a color difference would be relevant to your issues. I have had the Black one and it certainly is not a
Horror ?
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Why wouldn't it be safe to buy? If you get a defective phone Amazon will send you a replacement, then you have 30 days to return the defective phone.
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JeauxAdam said:
Amazon recently added a Halo Gray variant to their listings and I know it comes with Alexa that can be removed but would there be any reason NOT to get this color? I wonder if it would be BETTER to get since it's probably a new hardware revision? I know it has the same internal specs as the others but I've heard some horror stories about the initial batch of the black ones and am wondering if that's still a concern.
I'm curious to know your thoughts!
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Why wouldn't it be safe?
I have a black one from Dec. that was from Sprint.
I have no issues?

JeauxAdam said:
Amazon recently added a Halo Gray variant to their listings and I know it comes with Alexa that can be removed but would there be any reason NOT to get this color? I wonder if it would be BETTER to get since it's probably a new hardware revision? I know it has the same internal specs as the others but I've heard some horror stories about the initial batch of the black ones and am wondering if that's still a concern.
I'm curious to know your thoughts!
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I purchased a black one from bestbuy earlier in the week hoping it was part of the new batch. It was apparently as the speaker grill was metal. But the light bleed was very present on both sides so i returned it. Started reading about the newer batch of phones that fixed the speaker grill are having light bleed issues. So with that said i’m hesitant to buy another. But this Halo grey color peaks my interest and amazons return policy is pretty great. So i’m going to bite the bullet and try the Halo grey.

I have the hall gray edition, and love it. No fingerprinting on back. And feels much more sold and secure in hand....

electrogiz said:
I have the hall gray edition, and love it. No fingerprinting on back. And feels much more sold and secure in hand....
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Good to hear! I have the Black and while beautiful it is a mother to keep clean when not in a case. I'm running Orea B8.1 and hoping the non beta will be out soon and if it is nice and smooth with no hiccups I may get the Halo Gray as well.

electrogiz said:
I have the hall gray edition, and love it. No fingerprinting on back. And feels much more sold and secure in hand....
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I read that you can remove the Alexa app... Is that correct?
Other than Alexa, is the same no bloatware as any Essential phone?
Thanks,

VennligFiende said:
I read that you can remove the Alexa app... Is that correct?
Other than Alexa, is the same no bloatware as any Essential phone?
Thanks,
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I noticed when flashing to and from Oreo it installed from play store. And I was successful at removing it on Oreo beta unrooted.

electrogiz said:
I noticed when flashing to and from Oreo it installed from play store. And I was successful at removing it on Oreo beta unrooted.
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Excellent. Thanks

VennligFiende said:
I read that you can remove the Alexa app... Is that correct?
Other than Alexa, is the same no bloatware as any Essential phone?
Thanks,
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Mine didn't even come with Alexa

I have Halo grey and I love it ...just installed a skinomi full body skin and I'm very happy with my device.
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Skripka said:
Mine didn't even come with Alexa
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Neither did mine lol

I picked up the Halo Grey when it was on sale for $450 and am mostly enjoying it right now. I have never seen any other PH-1 and could not imagine how much of a smudge magnet they must be. Plus the matte has just enough grip to it to keep it from being a wet bar of soap. I upgraded it to Oreo 8.1 within 10 minutes of taking it out of the box and am trying to figure out what the battery life is going to be like.
So yes...go halo!

celltech5333 said:
I picked up the Halo Grey when it was on sale for $450 and am mostly enjoying it right now. I have never seen any other PH-1 and could not imagine how much of a smudge magnet they must be. Plus the matte has just enough grip to it to keep it from being a wet bar of soap. I upgraded it to Oreo 8.1 within 10 minutes of taking it out of the box and am trying to figure out what the battery life is going to be like.
So yes...go halo!
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So 2 weeks later now, How has the battery life been on oreo 8.1 ? getting my essential phone soon. So eager to know whether i should upgrade to oreo or not.

So I am going to call the battery life "acceptable", but not spectacular. I tried out a OnePlus 5T before the PH-1 but could not get VoLTE working on AT&T. That thing seemed to have stellar battery life. The Essential is going into Deep Sleep about 75% of the time according to CPU Spy. All I do is calls/texts and surf the web on mine and I seem to go 2 days before recharging again. The fast charge is damn fast...but I do find myself missing the headphone jack. I needed to plug it in the other day while I was on a call. And keeping up with the stupid dongle is annoying. I did try a cheap used 360 camera and what a total **** show. That thing ate power at a stupid rate, the video/pictures were like meh, and it actually has a tiny fan buzzing away in it....and it still heats up. Overall the phone is solid and built BEAUTIFULLY.

Mine has been great. I love the matte back and its much closer to black than grey. I also wasn't sure about the color of the metal frame from pictures either coming from a black moon I had previously but I really like it in person. Haven't had any quality issues with it.
I will say battery on 8.1 is decent... its nothing spectacular but its more than adequate. Then again I'm coming from a v30 which has possibly the best battery life I've ever had on an android phone.. just a slight step below the mate 8 and mi mix 1.
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I am just a little bummed that I bought it at $499 and now its $450 with the essential earbuds and amazon refuses to refund me the difference or price match... and I really don't wanna have to go through the whole return and repurchase process just to get that difference back.

So far my battery on the matte gray was stellar. I spent the weekend at my girlfriends house and didnt have to charge it at all. So far so good.

mrsatan said:
So far my battery on the matte gray was stellar. I spent the weekend at my girlfriends house and didnt have to charge it at all. So far so good.
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That's because you weren't using your phone much. Hahaha sorry I had too
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daniel4653 said:
That's because you weren't using your phone much. Hahaha sorry I had too
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Lol I set myself up for it. I did use my phone quite a bit over there. I left it on over night too with a sleep machine playing and no problems.

Fingerprint sensor

I haven't seen any real review of the fingerprint sensor - only comments about the position on the screen.
Since there is no face or iris detection like on the Note 9, the fingerprint sensor will have to be pretty good.
Any ideas about this?
Edit: I just found one review that says there is face detection, which is a relief if it's true. I definitely saw one report that said there was only the fingerprint, so I'm now hoping that was wrong.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMMXKKyfu4

RR-99 said:
I haven't seen any real review of the fingerprint sensor - only comments about the position on the screen.
Since there is no face or iris detection like on the Note 9, the fingerprint sensor will have to be pretty good.
Any ideas about this?
Edit: I just found one review that says there is face detection, which is a relief if it's true. I definitely saw one report that said there was only the fingerprint, so I'm now hoping that was wrong..
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Well i hope they have improved the under screen scanner from the S10 plus because it was garbage. I actually sold my s10 plus because it was so unreliable.
There is face unlock but if it works like the s10 plus it is not secure and can be spoofed with a picture of yourself. I didnt use that feature due to this on the S10 plus and since the fingerprint scanner was trash ended up using a pin/pattern.
I didnt spend $1500 on a 2019 device to use old unlock tech lim
Iike like that.
They should have brought back the retina scanner to secure the face unlock

About 11:30 in you'll see the fingerprint sensor test. Appears flawless according to Unbox Therapy. Most people who had issues with the S10 fingerprint sensor had those issues due to the screen protectors they were using, even though they blame the phone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIn1mbgBhww

Semantics said:
About 11:30 in you'll see the fingerprint sensor test. Appears flawless according to Unbox Therapy. Most people who had issues with the S10 fingerprint sensor had those issues due to the screen protectors they were using, even though they blame the phone.
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I was using the factory installed screen protector on my S10 plus and the scanner was still terribly unreliable.
And Lew was not unlocking from a black screen in that video either which made a big difference on my s10 plus.
If i hit the power button to view the lock screen then unlocked it was more reliable but from a locked black screen it was less than 50% reliable.

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I was using the factory installed screen protector on my S10 plus and the scanner was still terribly unreliable.
And Lew was not unlocking from a black screen in that video either which made a big difference on my s10 plus.
If i hit the power button to view the lock screen then unlocked it was more reliable but from a locked black screen it was less than 50% reliable.
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I still think it had something to do with the Samsung screen protectors too, even though they claimed they were designed for that purpose. I do not use a screen protector at all. If anything happens to my screen it costs me 29 bucks to get a new one so I generally don't have any sensitivity issues.

Semantics said:
I still think it had something to do with the Samsung screen protectors too, even though they claimed they were designed for that purpose. I do not use a screen protector at all. If anything happens to my screen it costs me 29 bucks to get a new one so I generally don't have any sensitivity issues.
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It will cost me alot more than that to replace my screen here in Canada!

Semantics said:
I still think it had something to do with the Samsung screen protectors too, even though they claimed they were designed for that purpose. I do not use a screen protector at all. If anything happens to my screen it costs me 29 bucks to get a new one so I generally don't have any sensitivity issues.
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How do you get a $29 screen replacement?

jejb said:
How do you get a $29 screen replacement?
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Verizon insurance for 13 bucks a month. Unlimited screen repair on supported devices.

Semantics said:
Verizon insurance for 13 bucks a month. Unlimited screen repair on supported devices.
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I wish we had that here,i can get device protection from rogers but it has a deductible each time and its over 100

Semantics said:
Verizon insurance for 13 bucks a month. Unlimited screen repair on supported devices.
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Ah, gotcha'. When I look at that, though, I also add in the $13 a month for a total cost of $341 over 2 years, including one screen replacement. Not saying it's a ripoff or anything. I have used my insurance and was glad to have it. I just like to look at the total cost.

Many thanks for the link to that review, it puts my mind at rest.
I don't use screen protectors because I always use use a folding case - never broken a screen yet.

Face unlocking is there. But I believe it uses just the camera no special sensor. I presume

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Face unlocking is there. But I believe it uses just the camera no special sensor. I presume
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Yes so not secure at all like the S10 plus..totally useless.
They really should have left the retina scanner on the newer stuff....losing that is a problem.

force70 said:
Yes so not secure at all like the S10 plus..totally useless.
They really should have left the retina scanner on the newer stuff....losing that is a problem.
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I totally agree! I even think note 9 was hands down the best true note phone the made.

The ultrasonic FP sensor is not an improved one or 2nd gen. or something, it's the same one used in the s10 series, now placed up.

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I totally agree! I even think note 9 was hands down the best true note phone the made.
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Yes, I agree with you. I went from a nexus with it in the back as well, then the moto fingerprint reader at the base in the front to the back, and now it's going to the front again. I'm 80% sure I've disliked each transition but thelis iteration makes me the most nervous. The only thing I like about Apple is the Face ID as it's very quick. Though I don't like having my phone unlocked each time I pull it out. Plus, my work has strict security rules for keeping locked.

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The ultrasonic FP sensor is not an improved one or 2nd gen. or something, it's the same one used in the s10 series, now placed up.
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Well thats not good because it sucked on the S10 plus and is the main reason i got rid of it.
I could have a very short stay on the Note 10 plus if it is as bad....unfortunate since its an amazing device but being able to reliably and consistently unlock your device on the 1st attempt is a basic feature.

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Yes, I agree with you. I went from a nexus with it in the back as well, then the moto fingerprint reader at the base in the front to the back, and now it's going to the front again. I'm 80% sure I've disliked each transition but thelis iteration makes me the most nervous. The only thing I like about Apple is the Face ID as it's very quick. Though I don't like having my phone unlocked each time I pull it out. Plus, my work has strict security rules for keeping locked.
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Business requires it to be locked?? Omg remember the nexus with the stars back, was totally ahead of its time! I loved it. I'm actually getting use to the fingerprint and face unlock of the note, has tons of settings, and not to let it unlock after recognizing the face

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Business requires it to be locked?? Omg remember the nexus with the stars back, was totally ahead of its time! I loved it. I'm actually getting use to the fingerprint and face unlock of the note, has tons of settings, and not to let it unlock after recognizing the face
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Yes, in order for me to have work email on my phone, corporate security policy requires using a pin with 7 numbers/letters and not just 4, or using a fingerprint reader, but no face unlock. Fun stuff.
Nexus had such a great fp reader! Was pretty responsive and the same place as the note 9. Will need to get used to maybe using my thumb now?

zedwards said:
Yes, in order for me to have work email on my phone, corporate security policy requires using a pin with 7 numbers/letters and not just 4, or using a fingerprint reader, but no face unlock. Fun stuff.
Nexus had such a great fp reader! Was pretty responsive and the same place as the note 9. Will need to get used to maybe using my thumb now?
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Oh wow, what secrets do u have on your phone lol. I'm talking about the nexus 4 but ur right! I had the 5x and loved it !! The gestures too felt so intuitive not a gimmick.. I'm use to it already. Took like 2 days lol. I wish the punch hole was in the corner tho. But it is what it be