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Another MT4GS battery thread

So today I was charging my phone after a little over 7 hours use and it simply jumped to 99% from 24%.
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I just calibrated my battery like a week or so ago so I'm beginning to think that my battery(stock) is broken. Just ordered an Anker to replace it.
Could this be caused by charging from different chargers/sources(like standard htc charger then via usb and or another device's charger)?
Does the battery usage section report the battery usage acurately? Because I think mine doesn't, whether or not my device stays with screen of for a fair time of the time between charges/brightness at zero it still reports screen using the most power
Edit: On PyroICs 1.1.0
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You can absolutely damage the battery by using blackberry chargeres, or ones that deviate too far from 5v-1a.
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Blue6IX said:
You can absolutely damage the battery by using blackberry chargeres, or ones that deviate too far from 5v-1a.
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Not charged my phone with a blackberry charger. Just a Samsung galaxy mini's charger and a Huawei IDEOS charger. The only other power source I've used is USB power from my laptop when I'm on the go.
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The OEM battery is known to have terrible life. You're better off with either a Mugen or the Anker two-pack.

blackknightavalon said:
The OEM battery is known to have terrible life. You're better off with either a Mugen or the Anker two-pack.
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Getting an Anker. Ordered today after the battery gave me the graph in OP.I hope it will be less erratic
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cybot_x1024 said:
Getting an Anker. Ordered today after the battery gave me the graph in OP.I hope it will be less erratic
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I have both the 3600mAh Mugen and the 1800mAh Anker two-pack. Both are great. I recommend the Mugen if you can afford it.
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blackknightavalon said:
I have both the 3600mAh Mugen and the 1800mAh Anker two-pack. Both are great. I recommend the Mugen if you can afford it.
Delivered via candygram for Mr. Mongo.
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I already have a hard rubberised case for my phone and am not too sure the 3600mAh battery bulge will agree with it, both practically and aesthetically.
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cybot_x1024 said:
I already have a hard rubberised case for my phone and am not too sure the 3600mAh battery bulge will agree with it, both practically and aesthetically.
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Aye that's something to watch out for. Maybe go with the Anker and if your still not satisfied, look into a Muugen 18 or 36
Just my spare change.

Blue6IX said:
You can absolutely damage the battery by using blackberry chargeres, or ones that deviate too far from 5v-1a.
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No blue, I'm going to have to call you on this one. No damage that I can see. Been charging my old G2 with a BB charger for at least the past 4 months. No problems at all.

you'll see it sooner or later, you are wearing out the cells inside it - they weren't made to take that kind of stress.
When i'm not getting ready for work i'll dig up some info on why specifically.

Blue6IX said:
you'll see it sooner or later, you are wearing out the cells inside it - they weren't made to take that kind of stress.
When i'm not getting ready for work i'll dig up some info on why specifically.
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Blue i would say your wrong aswell i used a BB charger form my old Mytouch 4g for about 11 months and my battery still functioned properly as was lasting its standered period of time like always.

What's unique about the BB charger anyway?
I noticed some time back on a previous device I had(ZTE Blade) it would disable the touch digitiser as soon as you plugged it in, though it would still charge the device.
Is it something to do with the way its earthed?
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I've used a BB charger on both my G2 and my MT4GS and both batteries still work as good as they should.

bmw2105 said:
Blue i would say your wrong aswell i used a BB charger form my old Mytouch 4g for about 11 months and my battery still functioned properly as was lasting its standered period of time like always.
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blackknightavalon said:
I've used a BB charger on both my G2 and my MT4GS and both batteries still work as good as they should.
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...and I think someone else posted in this thread about using a BB charger and it being fine over time.
I don't care about being wrong on a personal level, no ego or anything like that - i'd rather be corrected if i'm wrong so I don't spread misinformation. So far that's at least two people (quoted from this page, didn't dig further back into the thread - cumbersome to do on the device over lunch through the browser)
So that's some people providing information based on their direct observations, it's up to me or anyone else who has supporting info to provide it to show why trickle-charging at low amperage is bad for the cells in the battery.
Just 'cause it works and you get away with it without the appearance of issues doesn't mean it's good for it or not doing damage.
I once drove my Bronco a little over 300 miles round-trip to camping in the mountains at a remote site. It was carrying all of our gear and the people were riding in other vehicles, and the Bronco was overloaded (by a lot). I only had 2 cylinders out of 8 working, the sparks were shot in the other 6. 3 were down before the trip started, didn't have a chance to change them, and at one point early in the drive I came to a quick stop on the highway from fast to nothing and flooded the engine, causing 3 more spark plugs to stop working (shoulda seen them when I changed them after I got back - 2 were outright broken lol)
The Bronco still pulled it's weight and got us there, was able to keep up and was 4-wheeling off road and lots of fun. Obviously not good for the engine, tranny etc... but it did it, and without any issues.
I've got just over 1600 logged rounds through my Glock since the last time I cleaned it (intentionally - glock is supposed to be reliable and it's a torture test i'm putting it through to see how many rounds between cleaning before a misfire)
Obviously in both cases the manufacturers don't recommend doing what i'm doing. It should be pretty plain the objects spoke about were/are being abused. Yet they function/functioned just as well as if they were being cared for properly.
The abuse of the cells in the batteries is no different then the two situations I described above. They are not designed to be charged at that trickle rate, and doing so stressed the individual cells in the batteries.
I don't have links to cite technical specifics, and i'll have to go out of my way to track down the information to put here to explain why on the technical level. I don't know how soon that may be, but it's important for us to lay this to rest one way or another.
I'd love nothing more then for the information i've put together about lithium-ion batteries over the course of my electronics education to be proved wrong due to new developments in battery technology/tolerances and that you can in fact use something like a BB charger to charge them, but it flies in the face of all I know about proper care of the cells in the batteries themselves so...

Blue is an interesting character, I must say lol...
Either way, I'll take your word for it. You probably know better than me regardless. I was just saying I saw no apparent damage. But then again this damage doesn't need to be apparent.

Blue6IX said:
I'd love nothing more then for the information i've put together about lithium-ion batteries over the course of my electronics education to be proved wrong due to new developments in battery technology/tolerances and that you can in fact use something like a BB charger to charge them, but it flies in the face of all I know about proper care of the cells in the batteries themselves so...
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always nice to get what you love!
seems as if the important thing is not input current, but ensuring that the battery is not 'overcharged'.
Charge currents with Li-ion are less critical and can vary widely. Any charge will do, including energy from a renewable resource such as a solar panel or wind turbine. Charge absorption is very high and with a low and intermittent charge, charging simply takes a little longer without negatively affecting the battery. The absence of trickle charge further helps simplify the charger.
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http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries

Blue is awesome! The stories are greatness.
I also have used my bb charger on my g2 and this phone with no problems. I did eventually have a probelm charger the g2 but it was something wrong where the charfger was actually connecting. You would have to hold the phone a seperate way.. had another g2 that was fine before that one though, until I fell on it. 280 pounds > g2
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Just got an anker battery for it. Will do afew full charge and drain then post results
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Anybody else notice that the last 10% or so of the Anker drops like a stone?
Blue6IX said:
I've got just over 1600 logged rounds through my Glock since the last time I cleaned it (intentionally - glock is supposed to be reliable and it's a torture test i'm putting it through to see how many rounds between cleaning before a misfire)
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Super OT I know but,
Check out Chuck Taylor's super high round count Glock 17. A million or so rounds through it. Insane. I used to have a Glock Armorer's certification back when I was the Police. Glocks are extremely durable and reliable pistols. The caveat I'll pass on is shoot no unjacketed lead, only jacketed bullets. Too many rounds with Pb and no cleaning can have you eating bits of your chamber... It is hard to write kernel code without the use of your fingers and eyes.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement.

S3 2300mAh Battery

I just wanted to share the deal I found on a spare battery with 200 extra mAh. I would imagine that this does not have the NFC chip, but I wasn't too concerned with that as of yet since I don't use any tags yet anyway. I spent a little over $3.00 with shipping for one battery. I figured even if it was garbage, I'm not out much money.
http://www.ahappydeal.com/product-86003.html
Update:
Received this battery today. It was at 68% when I put it in this morning. So far, so good. I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary, like excessive heat.
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Let us know how it is. Thanks!
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is it safe to use I9300 battery on our device?

Even the real one that costs $44 does not have great reviews. Will also lose NFC capability that the $44 one has. Should be ok for backup if does not explode in phone.

Fishy.... very fishy... also curious to see how this pans out.

"$3.00 with shipping for one battery" = guaranteed junk

I was given one of these exact looking batteries (can't be sure of brand/manufacturer as they're un-branded but they certainly have the same sticker from the looks of the picture) and thought "what the hell... it's free" and started using it. Less than 3 days in and I noticed my phone getting warmer than usual. Didn't think anything of it, thought it might have been just from me using the phone more. About 5 days into using it the phone started getting REALLY hot when charging. Next thing I knew, while charging the phone, the edge of the battery cover "popped" and was pushed out so it unlatched from the phone. You guessed it, the battery was swollen and HOT to the touch. Hot enough where I couldn't hold it bare handed for very long. Unplugged it immediately, placed it in a heat/fire proof container to let it cool down, but it kept swelling for the next 5 mins to the point where it won't fit in the phone any longer. (Not that I tried, but from the looks of the deformation there is no way it would fit in the battery compartment.)
As they say, you get what you pay for. Why risk saving ~$30 when it can damage/ruin your ~$500 phone! Worst yet, why risk it for bodily harm to yourself or your loved ones?!! (Perhaps this can be a covert way to dispose of/harm your mortal enemies and blame it on faulty junk electronics... hmm...) I'm fairly certain that if I had kept charging the battery there would have been a very likely case of it starting a fire as it was on top of a paper book on my night stand while charging. I can't imagine how horrible I would feel if MY phone had started a fire that ended up hurting or killing someone in the process...
Moral of the story - yes, you might get a battery that works well for you and I'm sure many people have, but why risk it?? My suggestion - STAY AWAY! STAY FAR FAR AWAY!

I actually bought this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330768545772
supposedly 2900mah
comes with 3 batteries and a charger
Now my word of warning: I have used these china batteries before for my other smartphones. They never gave me an issue of overheating or anything like that, but dont believe the power ratings they have. it is NOT 2900mah. Its probably more like 1800mah
I keep them charged and use them in case my phone dies and I have to have a phone right away. I dont use them as my normal day to day battery.

I got two Anker batteries for $15.00. I usually only need to resort to using one of them each week, but I always have a second if needed. I believe for a few more dollars you can get an external battery charger. That takes care of the charging problem.

How about two batteries and a charger from hyperion for $20. I believe this to be a fairly reputable brand. It can be found on Amazon if you search for hyperion. Sorry, it appears I am not cool enough to post links yet.

daverave13 said:
How about two batteries and a charger from hyperion for $20. I believe this to be a fairly reputable brand. It can be found on Amazon if you search for hyperion. Sorry, it appears I am not cool enough to post links yet.
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Kind of seems like all their positive reviews are fake.

tmushy said:
Kind of seems like all their positive reviews are fake.
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I can vouch for them. Tested several batteries and it does have longer battery life than OEM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843896
Haven't tested the Anker 2200 yet so I cant say for sure which battery is the best.

I might be looking into picking one up but am leaning towards an external one.

black7 said:
I was given one of these exact looking batteries (can't be sure of brand/manufacturer as they're un-branded but they certainly have the same sticker from the looks of the picture) and thought "what the hell... it's free" and started using it. Less than 3 days in and I noticed my phone getting warmer than usual. Didn't think anything of it, thought it might have been just from me using the phone more. About 5 days into using it the phone started getting REALLY hot when charging. Next thing I knew, while charging the phone, the edge of the battery cover "popped" and was pushed out so it unlatched from the phone. You guessed it, the battery was swollen and HOT to the touch. Hot enough where I couldn't hold it bare handed for very long. Unplugged it immediately, placed it in a heat/fire proof container to let it cool down, but it kept swelling for the next 5 mins to the point where it won't fit in the phone any longer. (Not that I tried, but from the looks of the deformation there is no way it would fit in the battery compartment.)
As they say, you get what you pay for. Why risk saving ~$30 when it can damage/ruin your ~$500 phone! Worst yet, why risk it for bodily harm to yourself or your loved ones?!! (Perhaps this can be a covert way to dispose of/harm your mortal enemies and blame it on faulty junk electronics... hmm...) I'm fairly certain that if I had kept charging the battery there would have been a very likely case of it starting a fire as it was on top of a paper book on my night stand while charging. I can't imagine how horrible I would feel if MY phone had started a fire that ended up hurting or killing someone in the process...
Moral of the story - yes, you might get a battery that works well for you and I'm sure many people have, but why risk it?? My suggestion - STAY AWAY! STAY FAR FAR AWAY!
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Thanks for the heads up.
I realize that this battery most likely is not a good battery. For $3 it would certainly be a good emergency backup.
It hasn't been delivered yet, but I'll give an update once I'm able to try it.
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I use a seidio charge vault that was invaluable when I was on a work trip and started experiencing frequent hot boots on a previously fairly stable rom. Between trying to troubleshoot that and flashing to a backup I went through my battery pretty quick. It is also my go to travel charger.

Received this battery today. It was at 68% when I put it in this morning. So far, so good. I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary, like excessive heat.
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External battery /case

http://shop.brando.com/Power-Jacket-For-Sony-Xperia-Z1-compact-Z1f-3200mAh_p10993c1599d003.html
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Wow with this I think most of our Z1Cs can be heavy utilized and still last three days easily...

I went and ordered one. I'm wondering (if I don't mind the extra bulk) if I can just leave it in the case and keep the case charged up via USB. Has anyone else used this type of battery /case before?
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bigdfmartin said:
I went and ordered one. I'm wondering (if I don't mind the extra bulk) if I can just leave it in the case and keep the case charged up via USB. Has anyone else used this type of battery /case before?
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I think that could be doable, if the case have an "off" switch so that it does not charge the phone all the time.
I think its inadvisable to charge the phone from the case while the case itself is charging, at least that was the case (no pun intended) with the external battery case I had for my old galaxy s2.
please make a quick review when you get the case!
(the one i got for the s2 was advertised as 2200mAh, but in use it was not even 1000mAh, it only charged the phone about 40-50% even if the phone itself was turned off while charging from the case. I kept it anyway since it was quite convenient to charge the phone "in the pocket" so to speak)
//Gunnar

From the brando link:
" Please Charge the Battery Case and Sony Xperia Z1 compact / Z1f Separately. (Do Not Charge the Battery Case and Sony Xperia Z1 compact / Z1f At the Same Time)"
Looking forward to a tiny review aswell
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Yoko

I wasn't exactly sure how to interpret that, since it would actually be possible to connect USB cables to both parts simultaneously.
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I wasn't exactly sure how to interpret that, since it would actually be possible to connect USB cables to both parts simultaneously.
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Not to be a "mister know it all", but I think the micro usb port on the phone is covered by the case. it looks like it in the pictures anyway.
//Gunnar

Very observant, you are correct, sir. I guess that answers my question.
This phone already has great battery life- I still had 80% left when I got home from work yesterday, so I guess the extra battery might come in handy for camping trips and stuff like that, but I wouldn't want to have to take it out of the case every time I was charging it. Daily use might not be practical.
I'll post my first impressions of it as soon as it gets here and I've had a day or so to play with it.
dave

No worries, the instruction manual explicitly mentioned that you can certainly charge the phone while it's attached to the case, and it will charge the phone first before charging the battery. :good:
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Unfortunately for me, it arrived with a broken packaging case... I reluctantly threw it away due to the sharp broken edges. The case itself is fine.
You can see that the case is drawing about 1 A input to charge the phone first (charging the battery does reduce that to its specified 800 mA rating)
The connector, overall I will say the case is well-constructed. The clips latch on the the phone easily and yet firmly, so you don't have to worry about them separating accidentally or scratching the phone's metallic frame. The dimensions are spot-on and it feels good in the hand.
The positioning of the microUSB port meant that it can even prop the case up vertically.
Here, you can see the tapered side profile and unobstructed microSD card slot. This is one advantage over the equivalent version for the Z1.
The cut-out for the camera is just nice, and you should also be able to see the glossy white surface. I had the impression it was going to matt from the Brando website's photos though, not a big issue...
The kickstand in action. Unfortunately, this is where I have to deduct some points off the case... the kickstand is a little short and requires an absolutely flat surface to be stable. It is quite easy to push the phone over otherwise. In other words, it gets the job done, but just barely.

Mine came in last night, and the box it came in was also cracked in one corner. Your review is spot on. I got the black one, which does have a matte finish. The only thing I would add is that they could have rounded the hard corners a little bit more to make it a little more comfortable in the hand. It does double the thickness of the phone. I always carry mine in a holster, so that doesn't bother me a bit, but it might be an issue if you normally carry it in your jeans pocket. It will take a few days to see how well it works, but overall I'm pretty happy with it.
dave

I am very interested in hearing back about the battery capacity, about how long the phone can keep going when both batteries are charged.
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Sorry to burst the bubble of anyone monitoring this thread, but after weeks of usage, I realized the battery capacity does not live up to the claims on the website. My observations:
The battery is fully depleted in about two hours, and can only recharge no more than 70% of the Z1 Compact's internal battery. This puts the actual capacity at around 1600 to 1800 mAh.
The battery indicator is not well-calibrated. According to it, the first 25% of the battery is depleted in about 10 minutes, and the next 50% is depleted in almost 2 hours, meaning about 25% in less than hour. The last 25% is also depleted quickly. The discharge rate is inconsistent with the constant charging rate I see for the Z1 Compact's internal battery.
My testing was done while the phone is idling, and I wasn't using the phone at all while it was being charged by the Power Jacket. Wi-Fi is enabled. I have feedback this to Brando Workshop, let's see what they have to say... maybe I got a defective unit.

You must have gotten a defective unit. I haven't done any kind of exhaustive tests, but mine charges the phone from around 70% back up to 100% more quickly than the wall charger does, and I've hardly put a dent in the external battery charge. I'm pretty confident I can use the phone pretty heavily for a couple of days between charges.
Mugen Power is now making an external battery case for the z1c, but I haven't seen any pics of it yet.
dave

Have you tried to fully deplete the Power Jacket? E.g. run the Z1 Compact down to say 10% battery life and then see if there's still some power left after charging the phone fully.
I suspect your wall charger is charging slower than 1A, because my wall charger can deliver 1.2+ A to the phone easily through the magnetic charging contacts or micro-USB.
Maybe it wasn't mentioned clearly in my original post, but the Power Jacket does seem to charge my phone in the region of 1 A, I'm just dismayed that the capacity on mine is so weak.

I'll have to give that a try and get back to you. I was a little curious why the Mugen costs so much more than the Bando (it's around $90).
big dave
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I ran my phone's battery down to 10% yesterday, then charged it with the battery case, which was fully charged, and I got similar results to yours. I'm not sure that this means a discrepancy from the claimed capacity of the battery case, though. I'm not an electrical engineer, but theorizing that when the amount of charge in the case matches the amount in the phone, there is no longer a voltage differential to move a charge from one to the other.
In other words, if you were charging a dead phone with a fully charged case, only about half of the capacity of the case would move to the phone, which would be about 1600mah, which would only provide about a 70% charge. That matches the numbers you came up with. As long as the case has more charge than the phone, you'll still get a charge from it.
dave

bigdfmartin said:
I ran my phone's battery down to 10% yesterday, then charged it with the battery case, which was fully charged, and I got similar results to yours. I'm not sure that this means a discrepancy from the claimed capacity of the battery case, though. I'm not an electrical engineer, but theorizing that when the amount of charge in the case matches the amount in the phone, there is no longer a voltage differential to move a charge from one to the other.
In other words, if you were charging a dead phone with a fully charged case, only about half of the capacity of the case would move to the phone, which would be about 1600mah, which would only provide about a 70% charge. That matches the numbers you came up with. As long as the case has more charge than the phone, you'll still get a charge from it.
dave
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That's not quite how a battery charging works, but if it does, then you should be able to charge the phone again when its battery level goes down.
I seriously doubt that's possible though.
//Gunnar

Battery voltage drops as it loses its charge. An external charger connected to a power source will maintain sufficient voltage to fully charge a battery, but with the battery case you're basically just connecting 2 lithium batteries in parallel, so the current will only move as long as there is a voltage difference between them.
It's possible that the more expensive Mugen case has additional circuitry to maintain the higher voltage to fully charge the phone's battery.
dave

Hello Guys
I would like to buy the brando battery case but I have a question, why is not possible to charge phone and buttery at the same time?
I understand that the battery case will cover the micro usb port, but what if I cut it to uncover the port?
thanks

It's not necessary to remove the phone from the case while charging. If you have the case turned on, the phone will fully charge first. The case will then shut off from the phone and charge on it's own.
big dave
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S-E X10 Minipro
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Source for replacement batteries?

Not seeing myself buying a new tablet any time soon but the battery eventually will force me to. Unless of course I can change out the battery. Anyone have recommendations?
There are two on Amazon. One of them has mixed reviews so probably going to avoid. The other costs twice as much and only has one review which seems suspicious
Hoping there are other sources we can get a spare battery from
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I saw some in ebay looks to be excellent quality

I bought one from eBay for £5.25 as my battery is nearly 2 year old but is still working OK, I told another Tab S1 owner who`s battery was dying, he ordered one and he said it looked genuine, the problem is he cracked his screen when trying to open his Tab S, he ordered a new screen but i have not heard back what the battery performance was like.
I bought a tool kit from China for like £2 so i am ready for when my battery dies
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andy_d0 said:
Not seeing myself buying a new tablet any time soon but the battery eventually will force me to. Unless of course I can change out the battery. Anyone have recommendations?
There are two on Amazon. One of them has mixed reviews so probably going to avoid. The other costs twice as much and only has one review which seems suspicious
Hoping there are other sources we can get a spare battery from
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I recently replaced both my charging port and battery for my 10.5 in July, it is working better than ever.
I see you're running a 8.4 but the ebay listing I bought my battery from is still live for anyone coming into this thread looking for an answer pertaining to the 10.5 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/141932181009), it might be worth checking out if the same seller supplies 8.4 batteries.

Ok thanks guys. I'll give eBay a look and that seller
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I got my T800 battery from the eBay seller below for only £5.25 as i said in post 3, I have not tried it yet.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141991614986?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
John.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
I got my T800 battery from the eBay seller below for only £5.25 as i said in post 3, I have not tried it yet.
John.
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Please do... It would be very interesting to see if a 5£ battery is any good....It sounds to good to be truth...?

The 23 month old battery in my T800 is still going strong so i don't really want to bust it open just to see if the replacement one i bought is good.
John.
spritem8 said:
Please do... It would be very interesting to see if a 5£ battery is any good....It sounds to good to be truth...?
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
The 23 month old battery in my T800 is still going strong so i don't really want to bust it open just to see if the replacement one i bought is good.
John.
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Understood, just kidding. Amazing that your battery still is doing so well. Have you done something special to it, "settings wise"? Have you noticed any difference in battery usage with Marshmallow?

I don't game or use apps that get the battery hot, heat kills your battery, also 99% of the time i only charge to 80% and do not discharge below 20% every time you charge to 100% you damage your battery a little bit, it`s all cumulative.
I just watch video`s read ebooks and browse the internet, but keep away from apps/game that cause my battery to get hot in my tablet i cannot afford to replace it for a few years, that why i have a replacment battery ready to go.
I use my notebook for gaming also i have a android tv box on my 55" tv if i want to android game.
I have an HTC M7 (the worst phone in the world to replace the battery) that 3 years old and the battery is still good as new as far as i can tell, I use the same charge discharge settings as i do on my T800.
Most people will laugh at lengths i go to keep my battery`s in good condition, but i have read recently that Sony is introducing a battery save mode to their smart phones to do automatically what basically i have been doing manually for years.
John.
spritem8 said:
Understood, just kidding. Amazing that your battery still is doing so well. Have you done something special to it, "settings wise"? Have you noticed any difference in battery usage with Marshmallow?
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My original one was weakening only when using only 2hrs (not gaming) since I have bought it just 8 months. I claimed it with Samsung and now the second one seem to be weaken again (7 Months after that). Sony's battery is much better for me but I don't like its button which inside the screen.
Sorry for my poor English

To me a more burning question is, where is the source of an affordable replacement headphone jack for the 10.5 model? A few months ago I dropped my Tab S, with headphone plugged in, and it hit the floor on the headphone plug. The headphone jack has sort of become loose. It still works, but I need to make sure I don't touch the headphone plug or wire when I use it. I just saw a speaker and headphone assembly sold on ebay for 35USD + 5USD shipping, which is ridiculous. Vendor, if you're reading this just keep dreaming on about charging 40USD for a headphone jack for a two year old tablet.

Akopps said:
To me a more burning question is, where is the source of an affordable replacement headphone jack for the 10.5 model? A few months ago I dropped my Tab S, with headphone plugged in, and it hit the floor on the headphone plug. The headphone jack has sort of become loose. It still works, but I need to make sure I don't touch the headphone plug or wire when I use it. I just saw a speaker and headphone assembly sold on ebay for 35USD + 5USD shipping, which is ridiculous. Vendor, if you're reading this just keep dreaming on about charging 40USD for a headphone jack for a two year old tablet.
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i think the jack come with other thing... but the price is ridiculous... only 9.95 at ifixit. but out of stock...
https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Galaxy-Tab-S-10-5-Headphone-Jack-Assembly-/IF252-000

My Tab S 10.5 is also about 2 years old and my battery is still going strong, I have not done anything special with it and am running stock Marshmallow. I mainly use my Tab S to consume media, mostly TV watching on XFinity TV app and playing music to my BT speaker I keep in the bathroom when getting ready for work. I have the Best Buy 32 Gig version.

I recall having a Panasonic laptop which had software to stop the charge at 80%, when plugged in. Is there a similar software for android or specific to the Tab S?
Tinderbox (UK) said:
I don't game or use apps that get the battery hot, heat kills your battery, also 99% of the time i only charge to 80% and do not discharge below 20% every time you charge to 100% you damage your battery a little bit, it`s all cumulative.
I just watch video`s read ebooks and browse the internet, but keep away from apps/game that cause my battery to get hot in my tablet i cannot afford to replace it for a few years, that why i have a replacment battery ready to go.
I use my notebook for gaming also i have a android tv box on my 55" tv if i want to android game.
I have an HTC M7 (the worst phone in the world to replace the battery) that 3 years old and the battery is still good as new as far as i can tell, I use the same charge discharge settings as i do on my T800.
Most people will laugh at lengths i go to keep my battery`s in good condition, but i have read recently that Sony is introducing a battery save mode to their smart phones to do automatically what basically i have been doing manually for years.
John.
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Nothing automatic for the S1 to stop charging before 100% , I use GSam battery monitor to set an alarm at 80% so i can pull the power cable as soon as i hear it go off, I have only charged my T800 to 100% around 7 or 8 times and the battery is still great after 2 years of daily use.
I read a couple of weeks ago that Sony were going to add a battery save to their mobile phones if this is true?
Below is the free version of Gsam, I enable all the alarms for battery high, low or high temp or battery temp or battery voltage.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm&hl=en_GB
John.
discord said:
I recall having a Panasonic laptop which had software to stop the charge at 80%, when plugged in. Is there a similar software for android or specific to the Tab S?
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Currently, I use my tablet plugged in most of the time, so it would be useful if I could just stop the charging at 80% from software.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Nothing automatic for the S1 to stop charging before 100% , I use GSam battery monitor to set an alarm at 80% so i can pull the power cable as soon as i hear it go off, I have only charged my T800 to 100% around 7 or 8 times and the battery is still great after 2 years of daily use.
I read a couple of weeks ago that Sony were going to add a battery save to their mobile phones if this is true?
Below is the free version of Gsam, I enable all the alarms for battery high, low or high temp or battery temp or battery voltage.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm&hl=en_GB
John.
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Accubattery is also enabling an alarm at the charging rate you wish to stop. It is also providing informations regarding the health of your battery. 2 years after purchase, mine is only at 75% of its initial capacity. I get around 5h15 of sot in mixed usage, merely 2h30 in gaming
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No Fast Charging with Screen On!?

Looks like the Galaxy s8 doesn't quick charge if your using it while its charging!
http://wccftech.com/galaxy-s8-fast-charge-display-off/
While using it I have noticed a message pop up warning about the battery discharging faster then it can charge. At first I thought it was a bad charger but I guess not. Only noticed the message when the phone is under heavy load like full brightness youtube UHD streaming or gaming. This might be why they claim longer life span for the battery. Hope they update it to at least give us the option to always quick charge.

Like lg's phone (had g2 and g5 ) it doesnt fast charge when the screen is on, I might be wrong but i think it's pretty much stantard to avoid overheating.

Blaccmamba said:
Like lg's phone (had g2 and g5 ) it doesnt fast charge when the screen is on, I might be wrong but i think it's pretty much stantard to avoid overheating.
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Coming from the One Plus 3T with Dash Charge and the difference is pretty big. Kind of a bummer the Galaxy s8 charges at Quick Charge 2.0 speeds when Quick Charge 4.0 is around the corner.

Wtb dash charge on every phone.

Blaccmamba said:
Like lg's phone (had g2 and g5 ) it doesnt fast charge when the screen is on, I might be wrong but i think it's pretty much stantard to avoid overheating.
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other than overheating is there any other reasons?
+ could u please explain more about overheating issue (with screen on and fast charging)?
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Geeks Empire said:
other than overheating is there any other reasons?
+ could u please explain more about overheating issue (with screen on and fast charging)?
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Qc fast charge 2.0 , 3.0 all raise the voltage that is going to the phone to increase the charging speed, but doing so also heat the battery , especially qc 3.0 . I remember my g5 getting really hot ( like hotter then anything i've manage with my s8 rn ) just by charging for 20 min with the screen off, normal usage already heat the phone so if they allowed fast charging while ppl play games and stuff the battery would definitely become way too hot and that would be unsafe ( note 7 i see you ) . Qc 2.0 don't heat the phones as much as 3.0 tho that's just samsung being reaaaally safe because of what stated above.
On the other hand the dash charge that op use only raise the amperage , so all the excess of heat stay in the charger that is working hard to give your phone less volt than qc 3.0 but at a faster speed resulting in the same charging speed, it maybe even be faster with the dash charge from what i've read. With that heat staying in the charger they allow fast charge with the screen on because it won't make the phone overheat beyond safety point .
Sorry if my english is meh it's not my main language tho ^^

Considering how this is a charging thread, I had to drop a weird concern. I got my phone on launch, and I usually charge my devices using the Anker Powercore; the phone charges fine, however, it stops at 84 percent, and doesn't go beyond that. Unplugging the cable, and plugging it back in fixes the issue..
I noticed the issue is only when charging through power bank.

Blaccmamba said:
Like lg's phone (had g2 and g5 ) it doesnt fast charge when the screen is on, I might be wrong but i think it's pretty much stantard to avoid overheating.
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Sorry, you are wrong (at least for G5 and G6, both of them have QC with screen on.
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It's saying fast charging but take a watch, with screen on wait 10 min and see how much % it get, then turn it off wait another 10, it will get almost twice of what you get with screen on. I had mine for one year so I'm pretty sure that they lower the voltage when the screen is on even tho they don't say it.

ted presley said:
Sorry, you are wrong (at least for G5 and G6, both of them have QC with screen on.
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Do NOT believe everything that is wrote on device/screen. It has NO fast charging when you are using phone.

stefan063 said:
Do NOT believe everything that is wrote on device/screen. It has NO fast charging when you are using phone.
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Oh, I'm sorry, maybe you guys are right, just double check, it just draws about 5W while the screen is on.
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A key fact here is written right on the charger. "Adaptive Fast Charging". Don't know what all the fuss is about.
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We should sue samsung for lies because it was supposed to be qc3. 0 right?
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derrickmd18 said:
We should sue samsung for lies because it was supposed to be qc3. 0 right?
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Wrong. They never said it would be qc3 or anything other than adaptive fast charge, which is their take on qc2.
Also this has been same for 3 years now, so fail to see the news here.
Some publications are rehashing same test year after year, then publishing it as though it's a new thing, just for clicks. Some are genuinely clueless. And yet others are making it seem as though samsung removed the feature (which was never there in a first place), due to fears of another note7 situation.
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What gives?? I am using the original charger and cable

Why would anybody wanna use the phone while it's charging, I thought that was bad for the battery?...

mlock420 said:
Why would anybody wanna use the phone while it's charging, I thought that was bad for the battery?...
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Like ... use navigation while driving?
Has anyone experienced the issue of discharging faster than charging in this case?

Is there a way to go round this? I do want fast charge while using my phone. DASH was so good.

hugeadrian said:
Like ... use navigation while driving?
Has anyone experienced the issue of discharging faster than charging in this case?
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im using the s8 with a magnetic holder, wireless charger, Nillkin, while im actively using google maps as navigation, the battery slowly gains percentage, so it alright