[Completed] have there been successful occurrences of applying the 2nd bootloader exploit? - XDA Assist

noob trying to get some xp and gain some knowledge.
i have the Amazon Kindle Fire 2nd gen running sysv 10.5.1
i have root access (kingroot, newest version. gained access once, then did factory reset, and did it again. kingroot stayed on HD after reset. idk why)
tested both times with es file mngr to ensure true / permissions
removed bloatware and advertisement apps. disabled some start-up processes snagged a couple of cool *root* apps and what not on the first go around.
only gained / access after the "factory reset" to not disturb too much and possibly fubar the whole gig when i'm so close to the goal
ultimate desired state atm is cm-11 (for otter2) TWRP 2.6.3.1 with some cool ass apps and blahblahblah
this is the guide im about to follow https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_otter2 with the exception of the cable thing. i feel fairly confident that i can fastboot without it since i have superuser abilities and ive read several places that its doable but much safer and easier with the "sudo" cable. im a big boy. im willing to take a chance but if its not possible without the cable of paramount capabilities then it would be asinine to brick my **** "cuz i figurd it wud werk alright"
Sorry to be so long winded. just trying to be well detailed to make sure you guys know where i'm at in my little adventure.
So finally to the question
i've read two very different opinions on this from multiple people, in multiple threads, on multiple forums, etc.
is fastboot mode or state (however its referred to) achievable on the AKF(2ndGen) v10.5.1 as / without that eversofrustrating cable? like, is there a credible dev out there that says "yeah, dudes. f*** the cable. i just make it sudo whatever i tell it to" not necessarily verbatim but, you're smart, you know what im getting at.
simply put CAN IT BE DONE!?! (really im just trying to flash a rom on something that my wife wont remove my right testicle for bricking just to get a feel before using the fancy new trick discovered for LG G3 VS985. super excited. just the tot to 10 then kdz to 12 whatever whatever has me only slightly perspiring)
thank you for your time patience knowledge and inconceivable willingness to help losers like me who have a linux literacy of the 3rd grade on a good day. you guys are so awesome.
and im not just saying that. i swear

hello,
Welcome to XDA.
I have a KFHD7(1st Gen), the customization process involves installing a 2nd bootloader. I'm not familiar with the 2nd gen though.
Look through the Kindle fire forum linked below and see if there is anything to help you, you'll need to look through the "Android Development" and the "Original Android Development subforums there for all the custom mods for that device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd
If you can't find what you are looking for then you can post your question in one of the Kindle fire Q&A forums linked below(whichever applies to you).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd/7-inch-help
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd/fire-2-help
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd/8-9-inch-help
If those don't help then try posting your question in the forum linked below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help
The experts there may be able to help.
Remember to register an XDA account so you can post and reply in the forums. Good luck.

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droid / forum newbie

ive had a droid for a month or so. i was a big blackberry guy and have heard all the great things about droid so i used my upgrade for a droidx. ive been told this is the forum to really get the most out of you droid. i am semi literate with this phone (not nearly as much so as my blackberry) but won't the most out of it ... how should i start, what should i do / download. i want a fast different look that my otr droid friends will be envious of
thanks for the help
new member,
jgo113
Hi, welcome to the forum!
It can be massively overwhelming for new users here to know what is acheivable and what isn't, especially if you're not too familiar with the OS on the device you are using.
I would suggest getting to know the forum and learning which sections are relevant to you first. Browse around for a while and read some guides. What really helped me was to focus on the 'Post your Home Screen', screenshot type threads where people showed what they had done with their own phones. This way you can see what is acheivable and start leaning how to get there yourself.
FAQ/Guides/Wiki stickies are a good resource and are found in most of the forums.
Well for starters decide if you want to root your phone or not - read about what's that about, how does it "liberate" your device (AND YOU) from the tyranny of evil phone produces, just how badly you can break your device (the warnings), etc. After that you can begin trying different ROMs (custom firmwares) for your device, until you find the one, that suits your needs. Then learn BASH and begin writing scripts, hacking the living hell out of your device...
...or just use a custom "launcher" app, if you literally want your phone to look different. You can find some at the Market.
PS: Either way remember, the search bar is your friend. Before posting check if anybody has asked the same question - at least 95% of cases you'll find more about your problem/question, just by searching.

[Q] How to Start off as an Android User

Hi All,
I am new to Android and Galaxy Note is my first Android phone. I have been hearing a lot of new terms from friends & colleagues and I wanted help from this community to get set up. One of the many terms that I have heard is rooting the phone and from my Linux knowledge it seems having root access on the phone. I have been successful in playing with root permissions using Superuser, Root Explorer and Titanium Backup. However, I would like to have a way to learn all of this in a structured format. I would like to know the purpose of ODIN and working with it. The implications of CMW and having custom kernels and ROMs installed on my phone.
Could somebody please assist me with links to get started off?
Thanks,
Anupam
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/
Here you go. That is a link to the XDA wiki. That will be able to answer all of your questions. You can find alot of great info throughout the different forums on the site. Just take your time and do alot of exploring and reading before you jump into things. You won't regret it.
hello, i am a new android user and have a stock mt4gs. i am considering rooting and doing more with my phone but i am a little wary. i would consider myself a power user of pc's (win and mac) but i am coming at it from the graphics world so the tech side can really throw me off. after all the reading i have done on rooting i am more wary than when i started. my basic question: is there a resource that can give a very general overview of the rooting/moding processes? i have been all over the XDA site for days now but i seem to end up finding technical guides that answer more specific question about the process or go into details of this patch or that flash but not something that really just gives the A-B-C fundamentals for noobs like me and how to approach it in a somewhat safe and responsible manner.
thx in advance!
baldguydesign said:
hello, i am a new android user and have a stock mt4gs. i am considering rooting and doing more with my phone but i am a little wary. i would consider myself a power user of pc's (win and mac) but i am coming at it from the graphics world so the tech side can really throw me off. after all the reading i have done on rooting i am more wary than when i started. my basic question: is there a resource that can give a very general overview of the rooting/moding processes? i have been all over the XDA site for days now but i seem to end up finding technical guides that answer more specific question about the process or go into details of this patch or that flash but not something that really just gives the A-B-C fundamentals for noobs like me and how to approach it in a somewhat safe and responsible manner.
thx in advance!
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Check out the mt4gs forums, specifically the development section. There are step by step guides that will walk you through the process. Any other questions should be directed to the mt4gs q&a section.

[Q] Kindle Fire HD 8.9" Help

Before I begin, I'd like to say that I do indeed have 8.3.1 firmware. I know there isn't much if any thing out for that firmware. If not, then please answer my questions under the hypothetical situation that I am running an earlier version so that I may have a better understanding of how everything works and apply that knowledge for future occasions. I know there are many other tutorials out for similar devices, but I'd like advice and tutorials as specific as possible for my device. I like details and specifics when I learn different things. I'm meticulous like that. Thank you.
Okay. Apparently I am special like the noob registration video says I am, but I am totally and utterly confused. I am no way savvy when it comes to modifying Android products in even the slightest way, and I request help even though my problem has already most likely been addressed multiple times elsewhere...
As the title of the thread says, I have a Kindle Fire HD 8.9" device running the 8.3.1 firmware, but I don't know where to even begin! I am seeing terms strewn everywhere like "root", "bootloader", "twrp", "go launcher", "CM10", etc. Some hacks bundle different things together, while others require one to manually install the other components yourself whatever they may be. My question(s), as vague as it is, is what in the world do all of these mean, which ones are recommended for my device, and in which order do I install them? I have looked at many tutorials how to do different things for different devices, but they seem to fail to explain all the pre-requisites and/or all the possible alternate paths you could take to further expand on your android experience. If they do, they fail to do it layman's terms where someone like me could even understand.
With all of that said (and asked), I would like to throw out one more question. Is there indeed anything for my device yet? I searched in the device search bar, but it only recognizes the 7" device, not the 8.9". Also, as far as what generation I have if that is even a concern, I don't know how to find out. I'm aware this is probably a handful to sort out and answer, especially in such a way that won't confuse the living daylights out of me, but if one courageous soul manages to do so or at least attempt it, I will be grateful. Thank you in advance.
Hi,
I'm new to this as well, but found the posts below very helpful. HTH.
[REF]All Things About Kindle Fire HD 8.9"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2247428
Frequently Asked Questions - 2nd Generation Kindle Fires
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2228539

A friendly step-by-step detailed rooting guide for HTC U12+ please?

I do not know and don't have more time to dig into the details of rooting a phone (although I have already spent hours scrolling here and looking for basic knowledge). However I want to root my new u12+.
I successfully rooted my last phone according to a guide I found on this forum, which was a friendly, step-by-step, detailed guide for noobs like myself: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-k10/how-to/friendly-root-method-lg-k8-k10-t3531223
I know there's a guide for u12+ here but it isn't detailed enough which I find it difficult to follow. I am looking forward to a guide which is as detailed as the one above. Please help.
GphonePrince said:
I do not know and don't have more time to dig into the details of rooting a phone (although I have already spent hours scrolling here and looking for basic knowledge). However I want to root my new u12+.
I successfully rooted my last phone according to a guide I found on this forum, which was a friendly, step-by-step, detailed guide for noobs like myself: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-k10/how-to/friendly-root-method-lg-k8-k10-t3531223
I know there's a guide for u12+ here but it isn't detailed enough which I find it difficult to follow. I am looking forward to a guide which is as detailed as the one above. Please help.
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If my guide is too difficult to follow for you, you should probably wait a bit longer until twrp is available. This will make things easier.
But to be honest my guide is pretty detailed and describes each step that needs to be taken.
as already mentioned in the thread you should always research properly before blindly following “friendly” guides.
I think with a tiny bit of research the guide is pretty easy to follow.
with that said, if you face a specific hurdle or question you cannot solve with proper research, just post in my thread and I’m sure myself or somebody else will help you out
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Freak07 said:
If my guide is too difficult to follow for you, you should probably wait a bit longer until twrp is available. This will make things easier.
But to be honest my guide is pretty detailed and describes each step that needs to be taken.
as already mentioned in the thread you should always research properly before blindly following “friendly” guides.
I think with a tiny bit of research the guide is pretty easy to follow.
with that said, if you face a specific hurdle or question you cannot solve with proper research, just post in my thread and I’m sure myself or somebody else will help you out
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it's not only about 'researching properly'.
Thing is, for instance, reading the first few lines from your 'detailed' guide, I already don't know how to obtain the 2 prerequisites:
- latest adb and fastboot binaries
- working adb and fastboot environment
and for the first prerequisite, I already have a bunch of questions to ask despite already researching for hours on XDA:
1. I searched and found something called 15 seconds adb but how can I ensure it's the latest? it was posted a few years ago
2. I know fastboot is a mode which my phone can boot to but what are fastboot 'BINARIES'? what is a binary even? is the thing included in the package I download from the above thread?
3. what is a working adb and fastboot environment and how to obtain/achieve/test whether I have already got it?
and then what are boot images and I couldn't find/download the boot.img of my version. I cannot see mine from the google drive link from another thread - this problem has been described in your thread too
I think more descriptions or download links would be more helpful for guiding us to achieve these - to be more specific, a presentation like the thread of rooting K10 I provided above is what I am looking for. I know it might be just noobs like me who need it but yea, I do need something like this so I would insist on requesting a more 'friendly' and detailed guide of your same method so that I could perform what you are describing in your guide accurately. See if anyone can help if you are not into writing one.
GphonePrince said:
it's not only about 'researching properly'.
Thing is, for instance, reading the first few lines from your 'detailed' guide, I already don't know how to obtain the 2 prerequisites:
- latest adb and fastboot binaries
- working adb and fastboot environment
and for the first prerequisite, I already have a bunch of questions to ask despite already researching for hours on XDA:
1. I searched and found something called 15 seconds adb but how can I ensure it's the latest? it was posted a few years ago
2. I know fastboot is a mode which my phone can boot to but what are fastboot 'BINARIES'? what is a binary even? is the thing included in the package I download from the above thread?
3. what is a working adb and fastboot environment and how to obtain/achieve/test whether I have already got it?
and then what are boot images and I couldn't find/download the boot.img of my version. I cannot see mine from the google drive link from another thread - this problem has been described in your thread too
I think more descriptions or download links would be more helpful for guiding us to achieve these - to be more specific, a presentation like the thread of rooting K10 I provided above is what I am looking for. I know it might be just noobs like me who need it but yea, I do need something like this so I would insist on requesting a more 'friendly' and detailed guide of your same method so that I could perform what you are describing in your guide accurately. See if anyone can help if you are not into writing one.
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@Freak07 went out of his way to give everyone a VERY user friendly guide for rooting. It really couldn't be simpler. Sorry but if there are things in there you don't understand then it is on you to research it and learn, rather than the responsibility of the community to break it down. If you post your questions people will be more than willing to help explain things but the responsibility is on you.
The guide for rooting really couldn't be easier than what was posted. Very user friendly. If that's still too much than just as Freak said, you should wait for twrp to be available.
GphonePrince said:
it's not only about 'researching properly'.
Thing is, for instance, reading the first few lines from your 'detailed' guide, I already don't know how to obtain the 2 prerequisites:
- latest adb and fastboot binaries
- working adb and fastboot environment
and for the first prerequisite, I already have a bunch of questions to ask despite already researching for hours on XDA:
1. I searched and found something called 15 seconds adb but how can I ensure it's the latest? it was posted a few years ago
2. I know fastboot is a mode which my phone can boot to but what are fastboot 'BINARIES'? what is a binary even? is the thing included in the package I download from the above thread?
3. what is a working adb and fastboot environment and how to obtain/achieve/test whether I have already got it?
and then what are boot images and I couldn't find/download the boot.img of my version. I cannot see mine from the google drive link from another thread - this problem has been described in your thread too
I think more descriptions or download links would be more helpful for guiding us to achieve these - to be more specific, a presentation like the thread of rooting K10 I provided above is what I am looking for. I know it might be just noobs like me who need it but yea, I do need something like this so I would insist on requesting a more 'friendly' and detailed guide of your same method so that I could perform what you are describing in your guide accurately. See if anyone can help if you are not into writing one.
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it´s all about researching properly! I will demonstarte it to you!
1. if I google "latest fastboot and adb binaries"
https://www.google.com/search?q=latest+adb+and+fastboot+binaries
the very first article from xda points you to a direct download link from google.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-releases-separate-adb-and-fastboot-binary-downloads/
the article even states that these will remain the latest binaries. But just so you can see the actual version try "adb version" in terminal.
there are many guides on xda on how to set up your fastboot/adb folder/environment depending on your OS! just try to follow one and see if adb/fastboot commands actually work.
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_file
the adb and fastboot binaries are the files inside the downloaded package from 1. called adb and fastboot. (the filename extension may vary with your OS)
3. regarding researching
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021205
this was the first link that appeared on a simple google of
"how to check if adb is working"
I think I will include this actually in my guide as it seems a good idea to check if adb/fastboot is working.
Working adb environment can be checked with the command
Code:
adb devices
working fastboot environment with
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fastboot devices
DaConcho said:
@Freak07 went out of his way to give everyone a VERY user friendly guide for rooting. It really couldn't be simpler. Sorry but if there are things in there you don't understand then it is on you to research it and learn, rather than the responsibility of the community to break it down. If you post your questions people will be more than willing to help explain things but the responsibility is on you.
The guide for rooting really couldn't be easier than what was posted. Very user friendly. If that's still too much than just as Freak said, you should wait for twrp to be available.
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You said freak's guide requires further researching on your first paragraph and then said his guide cannot be more friendly on your second. isn't it contradicting? To the noobs like myself, if it cannot be more friendly, no further researches should be needed just like the example I posted for LG K10. Also, I have never said that it's the responsibility for anyone to break it down. I simple knew that a more detailed guide is possible and requested it. If someone is willing to write one, they will; and if not, then nothing I can do. It was never a burden/responsibility on anyone. Are you hinting that I don't have the rights of requesting a more detailed guide because requesting = believing that it is the the responsibility of someone?
I mean, all I want is also very simple - a step-by-step guide that is as detailed and 'friendly' enough for noobs so that no researches are required as the one for LG K10. I am not here to invoke any disappointments or criticising freak's guide or anything in the first place. I already said it is just not noobs-friendly and it's on the noobs like myself, who couldn't understand/don't have the time to understand freak's guide. I am not blaming/have never blamed anyone. You all don't need to be defensive for freak's guide, it's a good enough guide for non-noobs I acknowledge. Therefore, I standby my request for a more 'friendly' guide for noobs just like the one example I shown above for LG K10. I hope someone understands what I want and would spend some time on writing one, instead of wasting time arguing/defending for "freak's guide is friendly".
Freak07 said:
it´s all about researching properly! I will demonstarte it to you!
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maybe you're right about researching properly. Again, it's on the noobs being a noob not on you and I appreciate your good work. but still, my main point is, I would like to cordially request a step-by-step guide that is detailed and 'friendly' enough that even noobs can use without further researches just like the example I have shown for LG K10. why? because
1) noobs like me don't have the time/the ability to 'research properly' (I have already spent hours to research, and still encountering problems, and every time I get stuck, I need to ask some nooby questions (which could clearly be solved by simply stating more steps) in the thread and wait for someone to reply and I get stuck nearly every single step. How many more weeks/months do I need to spend on this? I have a very busy schedule.)
2) You have made a great guide for non-noobs, I appreaciate it but the fact is, even it might be the fault of being a noob, only a guide like the one I posted for LG K10 could actually help me rooting my phone. Therefore, I standby my request for a more 'friendly' guide for noobs just like the one example I shown above for LG K10. I hope someone understands what I want and would spend some time on writing one, instead of wasting time arguing/defending for "freak's guide is friendly for all or for experts only".
I am not blaming/have never blamed anyone and don't want to argue. I have only one clear goal from start - a request on a more detailed guide. If you don't want to fulfill my request, that's fine you can just walk away but please stop trying to argue that the forum doesn't need a guide for noobs and drive away potential members who are willing to write them. It is always good for the forum to have both versions, 'noob-friendly rooting guide' and 'rooting guide for experts'.
GphonePrince said:
You said freak's guide requires further researching on your first paragraph and then said his guide cannot be more friendly on your second. isn't it contradicting? To the noobs like myself, if it cannot be more friendly, no further researches should be needed just like the example I posted for LG K10. Also, I have never said that it's the responsibility for anyone to break it down. I simple knew that a more detailed guide is possible and requested it. If someone is willing to write one, they will; and if not, then nothing I can do. It was never a burden/responsibility on anyone. Are you hinting that I don't have the rights of requesting a more detailed guide because requesting = believing that it is the the responsibility of someone?
I mean, all I want is also very simple - a step-by-step guide that is as detailed and 'friendly' enough for noobs so that no researches are required as the one for LG K10. I am not here to invoke any disappointments or criticising freak's guide or anything in the first place. I already said it is just not noobs-friendly and it's on the noobs like myself, who couldn't understand/don't have the time to understand freak's guide. I am not blaming/have never blamed anyone. You all don't need to be defensive for freak's guide, it's a good enough guide for non-noobs I acknowledge. Therefore, I standby my request for a more 'friendly' guide for noobs just like the one example I shown above for LG K10. I hope someone understands what I want and would spend some time on writing one, instead of wasting time arguing/defending for "freak's guide is friendly".
maybe you're right about researching properly. Again, it's on the noobs being a noob not on you and I appreciate your good work. but still, my main point is, I would like to cordially request a step-by-step guide that is detailed and 'friendly' enough that even noobs can use without further researches just like the example I have shown for LG K10. why? because
1) noobs like me don't have the time/the ability to 'research properly' (I have already spent hours to research, and still encountering problems, and every time I get stuck, I need to ask some nooby questions (which could clearly be solved by simply stating more steps) in the thread and wait for someone to reply and I get stuck nearly every single step. How many more weeks/months do I need to spend on this? I have a very busy schedule.)
2) You have made a great guide for non-noobs, I appreaciate it but the fact is, even it might be the fault of being a noob, only a guide like the one I posted for LG K10 could actually help me rooting my phone. Therefore, I standby my request for a more 'friendly' guide for noobs just like the one example I shown above for LG K10. I hope someone understands what I want and would spend some time on writing one, instead of wasting time arguing/defending for "freak's guide is friendly for all or for experts only".
I am not blaming/have never blamed anyone and don't want to argue. I have only one clear goal from start - a request on a more detailed guide. If you don't want to fulfill my request, that's fine you can just walk away but please stop trying to argue that the forum doesn't need a guide for noobs and drive away potential members who are willing to write them. It is always good for the forum to have both versions, 'noob-friendly rooting guide' and 'rooting guide for experts'.
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So I took a look at the guide you linked us to.
Half of the links are deleted by a moderator. They probably pointed to some videos that are not allowed on XDA, because they generate income of some sort. So it seems to me.
Personally I feel that my guide is as detailed as the one you linked. And less confusing.
My guide explains how to root the your U12+ (with the current state of things - means no fully working TWRP) and a ton more things. I intentionally left out how to unlock your bootloader, set up adb and fastboot. The simple reason is that there are tons! of guides out on XDA which are just a simple XDA or Google search away.
Ultimately XDA is a place to learn and strive forward as a community. You don´t want to learn, you just want a guide that explains every little detail. ( at best with photos and videos) If you don´t have the time to research at least a little bit, my offer still stands. Wait for a working TWRP as it will simplify the matter.
We already explained to you, there are many people that answer specific questions that arise on your path. Other people profit from these answered questions, in case you ask them and post them in the corresponding thread.
I already answered your last 3 questions. So you should at least be able to start and see where it brings you.
I´m also not deaf to any valuable feedback. I already added that "how to check if adb is actually working" to the guide as it seemed a good idea to me.
So please feel free to contribute, what´s ultimately the purpose of a community.
The other question were asked and answered. If there is no firmware zip for your current firmware version, wait until it is uploaded or kindly ask in the firmware thread if anybody is able to share it.
Otherwise there is a bit of risk involved because you have no way of obtaining the stock boot.img from your current firmware.
here is answered what a boot.img is
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21173628/what-is-boot-img-file-in-android
I even give you one more information. Because this is an A/B device with a bit of a different partition layout, the recovery, which usually has its own partition, sits in the ramdisk, which is part of the boot.img.
Freak07 said:
So I took a look at the guide you linked us to.
Half of the links are deleted by a moderator. They probably pointed to some videos that are not allowed on XDA, because they generate income of some sort. So it seems to me.
Personally I feel that my guide is as detailed as the one you linked. And less confusing.
My guide explains how to root the your U12+ (with the current state of things - means no fully working TWRP) and a ton more things. I intentionally left out how to unlock your bootloader, set up adb and fastboot. The simple reason is that there are tons! of guides out on XDA which are just a simple XDA or Google search away.
Ultimately XDA is a place to learn and strive forward as a community. You don´t want to learn, you just want a guide that explains every little detail. ( at best with photos and videos) If you don´t have the time to research at least a little bit, my offer still stands. Wait for a working TWRP as it will simplify the matter.
We already explained to you, there are many people that answer specific questions that arise on your path. Other people profit from these answered questions, in case you ask them and post them in the corresponding thread.
I already answered your last 3 questions. So you should at least be able to start and see where it brings you.
I´m also not deaf to any valuable feedback. I already added that "how to check if adb is actually working" to the guide as it seemed a good idea to me.
So please feel free to contribute, what´s ultimately the purpose of a community.
The other question were asked and answered. If there is no firmware zip for your current firmware version, wait until it is uploaded or kindly ask in the firmware thread if anybody is able to share it.
Otherwise there is a bit of risk involved because you have no way of obtaining the stock boot.img from your current firmware.
here is answered what a boot.img is
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21173628/what-is-boot-img-file-in-android
I even give you one more information. Because this is an A/B device with a bit of a different partition layout, the recovery, which usually has its own partition, sits in the ramdisk, which is part of the boot.img.
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Despite already answered by you, since that actually further brings up tons of follow up questions of mine, mind leaving me your instant messaging contact? Like WhatsApp or telegram or discord etc. As you have admitted, your guide needs tons of further researching (as you know there are tons of articles but I don't know which one is the one I'm looking for and suitable for my phone) and the link I have as an example doesn't (deleted links were screenshots and YouTube videos by the op). is not I am expecting rapid back and forth asking and clarifying into details on each question. Asking in the forum is too slow and not time efficient
GphonePrince said:
Despite already answered by you, since that actually further brings up tons of follow up questions of mine, mind leaving me your instant messaging contact? Like WhatsApp or telegram or discord etc. As you have admitted, your guide needs tons of further researching (as you know there are tons of articles but I don't know which one is the one I'm looking for and suitable for my phone) and the link I have as an example doesn't (deleted links were screenshots and YouTube videos by the op). is not I am expecting rapid back and forth asking and clarifying into details on each question. Asking in the forum is too slow and not time efficient
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No sorry I won´t do that. If this forum is too time inefficient for you, you can look elsewhere for a more detailed guide or wait until a better one appears here that suits your needs.
You´re asking others to invest time so you can save your own time. You´re asking for knowledge from people, who invest time to obtain this knowledge. Part of this forum is to post questions here, so others can actually profit from the questions answered. Just like you would profit if you´d actually start searching here.
And please don´t put any words into my mouth, that I never said. My guide doesn´t need "tons" of research, just because there are more than enough guides out there.
We can stop here, because you´re clearly asking for a thing which XDA is not about.
If anyone else steps up and writes a more detailed guide that person is very welcome to do so I´m not preventing anyone.
Freak07 said:
No sorry I won´t do that. If this forum is too time inefficient for you, you can look elsewhere for a more detailed guide or wait until a better one appears here that suits your needs.
You´re asking others to invest time so you can save your own time. You´re asking for knowledge from people, who invest time to obtain this knowledge. Part of this forum is to post questions here, so others can actually profit from the questions answered. Just like you would profit if you´d actually start searching here.
And please don´t put any words into my mouth, that I never said. My guide doesn´t need "tons" of research, just because there are more than enough guides out there.
We can stop here, because you´re clearly asking for a thing which XDA is not about.
If anyone else steps up and writes a more detailed guide that person is very welcome to do so I´m not preventing anyone.
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I remember once there was a chat group for rooting a phone on stacks, WhatsApp or discord. Why not make one for u12+ to ease everyone? It's 2018, maybe the mode of forum isn't fast enough and needs to be changed. Forum is for complete detailed guides. But if you insist, this thread can become one with hella short questions and answer posts. That's also not aesthetical. Also, do think about your initial aim of releasing a guide. isn't it helping others who don't know how to root u12+? if so, why declining an even effective way of teaching people (me) by allowing me to send you my questions instantly whenever I encounter problems following your guide? Or, which you should disagree with, is it only for your self-gratification to gain recognition from others in this 'community'?
Anyway, even you are not physically preventing anyone from fulfilling my request, what you said already to a certain extent have driven potential writers away. It's actually kinda selfish because it's totally fine if you are not writing one but you don't have to drive people away from writing one. Anyway, so, provided no hopes on anyone writing a rooting guide for noobs, let me start my follow up questions although as I have expected, I will be asking for every small detail which probably most of the experts here already know because I don't have the ability to research properly (I did researched for more hours but I still can't find my answers). I said to 'save time' means to use time effectively - if I use my time to research and actually get what I am looking for, time is not wasted; but if I cannot reach what I want anyway after spending the time, it is wasted.
GphonePrince said:
I remember once there was a chat group for rooting a phone on stacks, WhatsApp or discord. Why not make one for u12+ to ease everyone? It's 2018, maybe the mode of forum isn't fast enough and needs to be changed. Forum is for complete detailed guides. But if you insist, this thread can become one with hella short questions and answer posts. That's also not aesthetical. Also, do think about your initial aim of releasing a guide. isn't it helping others who don't know how to root u12+? if so, why declining an even effective way of teaching people (me) by allowing me to send you my questions instantly whenever I encounter problems following your guide? Or, which you should disagree with, is it only for your self-gratification to gain recognition from others in this 'community'?
Anyway, even you are not physically preventing anyone from fulfilling my request, what you said already to a certain extent have driven potential writers away. It's actually kinda selfish because it's totally fine if you are not writing one but you don't have to drive people away from writing one. Anyway, so, provided no hopes on anyone writing a rooting guide for noobs, let me start my follow up questions although as I have expected, I will be asking for every small detail which probably most of the experts here already know because I don't have the ability to research properly (I did researched for more hours but I still can't find my answers). I said to 'save time' means to use time effectively - if I use my time to research and actually get what I am looking for, time is not wasted; but if I cannot reach what I want anyway after spending the time, it is wasted.
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please don´t get personal with your arguments.
everyone, including you, is free to start such a chat! Open it up and get it going. It´s just, that I won´t start it nor will I maintain or support it.
Again my guide is complete and detailed. and if there is indeed something missing or a little change to be made to make it a bit more polished I will update it. As I already did.
Feel free to ask your questions in the thread and I´m sure they will be answered at some point. Then everyone can profit from your research and from the questions and answers that arose while doing the research.
time spent on researching is never wasted. even if you don´t find all answers swiftly it is never wasted. The journey is the reward!
Thread closed. This seems to have become a thread less focussed on finding an answer and more so on flaming your peers. Given that that seems to be the case for the entire thread, there is no point in leaving this open if all it is going to do is cause excessive drama.
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Nextbook Ares 8a/10a - If You Have One - Bricked or Otherwise

I'm no dev, but i've come to be decently familiar with these devices.
If it's bricked - and you're arriving at having "looked everywhere" for a fix to no avail, DO NOT HESITATE to post your problemo. I may be able to help and would be glad to take a whack at it.
(A description of what went wrong, how your brick came to be would be helpful in solving your particular case.)
You should get a response from me pretty quickly in the Telegram
But definitely post here as well or give a link to your existing "need help" post if you already happen to have one.
If not bricked - maybe looking to see what other cool things can be done with these. Especially if you didn't know that these tablets are essentially mini pc's.
You could very well install Linux (Lubuntu | as Ubuntu runs like balls)
or even Windows (less practical .. still haven't gotten the drivers totally figured out .. but pretty neat nonetheless).
Creating backup firmware .img's - Also if you're unbricked a VERY useful thing to do would be to boot a Live Lubuntu from USB and create backup .imgs of each partition using the "dd" command. THEN, you'll have a working firmware backup for yourself and/or others who may need some stock imgs! With the very lacking amount of stock firmware to be found for these devices, making backups with this method would be very cool of you and helpful to everyone!
(Assistance and clarification can easily be given wherever needed!)
@CornholeOS_x86
Please read THIS before posting further. In fact it would be better if you read the entire Rules and start to follow them always.
I hope that you will be providing your help on XDA openly and not via third party sites and PMs.
Cheers!
Apologies, I shall.
I only mention TG because assisting would be much easier in a chat environment. Is there an allowed alternative or would the Discord serve this purpose? I mean not to break rules.
CornholeOS_x86 said:
Apologies, I shall.
I only mention TG because assisting would be much easier in a chat environment. Is there an allowed alternative or would the Discord serve this purpose? I mean not to break rules.
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I'm confident that you didn't and don't intend to break any forum rules, and I really appreciate that you confirm this. I'm also convinced that you agree that XDA members won't benefit from any - although well intended - assistance or support that is provided outside of XDA by whatever social media.
This is one of the reasons that and as an exemption to the last bullet of rule no. 5 of the forum rules (which my esteemed team mate @TNSMANI linked in his post above) we only grant developers the privilege to provide references to their social media in their own development threads.
I hope I was able to clarify your question.
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Oswald Boelcke
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hi
CornholeOS_x86 said:
I'm no dev, but i've come to be decently familiar with these devices.
If it's bricked - and you're arriving at having "looked everywhere" for a fix to no avail, DO NOT HESITATE to post your problemo. I may be able to help and would be glad to take a whack at it.
(A description of what went wrong, how your brick came to be would be helpful in solving your particular case.)
You should get a response from me pretty quickly in the Telegram
But definitely post here as well or give a link to your existing "need help" post if you already happen to have one.
If not bricked - maybe looking to see what other cool things can be done with these. Especially if you didn't know that these tablets are essentially mini pc's.
You could very well install Linux (Lubuntu | as Ubuntu runs like balls)
or even Windows (less practical .. still haven't gotten the drivers totally figured out .. but pretty neat nonetheless).
Creating backup firmware .img's - Also if you're unbricked a VERY useful thing to do would be to boot a Live Lubuntu from USB and create backup .imgs of each partition using the "dd" command. THEN, you'll have a working firmware backup for yourself and/or others who may need some stock imgs! With the very lacking amount of stock firmware to be found for these devices, making backups with this method would be very cool of you and helpful to everyone!
(Assistance and clarification can easily be given wherever needed!)
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i have a
Nextbook Ares 10a which not brick, but touch gone.​how i install ubuntu there? pls help..
Thanks

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