Coming from the Droid line, I've had an Otterbox case for every single one, and it's saved the phone more than I care to admit. Now, I've left the Moto line to be on the pure side of Android. Unfortunately, Otterbox has been completely silent on the matter of a 6P case.
I bought the Verus case and this LK "heavy duty" case: Amazon # B015K7XRUM
The Verus is good, but the rim sticks with USB Type-C cables that are slightly larger on the connector grip. The LK is... okay. Yes, it's got a kickstand, yes it's got the hard body wrapper, but the rubber is complete horse manure. I can pull the rubber back to take the phone out with ease, without taking the hard plastic bit off first.
So I'm still on the hunt for a good hard body case, where I can use my Steelie magnet.
Options I see:
Amazon # B015X90UJS - Supcase Unicorn Beetle "Slim"
Amazon # B015X9UR2S - Supcase Unicorn Beetle "Rugged"
Note: I'm a long time lurker, urls are bad, m'kay?
Harshmage said:
Coming from the Droid line, I've had an Otterbox case for every single one, and it's saved the phone more than I care to admit. Now, I've left the Moto line to be on the pure side of Android. Unfortunately, Otterbox has been completely silent on the matter of a 6P case.
I bought the Verus case and this LK "heavy duty" case: Amazon # B015K7XRUM
The Verus is good, but the rim sticks with USB Type-C cables that are slightly larger on the connector grip. The LK is... okay. Yes, it's got a kickstand, yes it's got the hard body wrapper, but the rubber is complete horse manure. I can pull the rubber back to take the phone out with ease, without taking the hard plastic bit off first.
So I'm still on the hunt for a good hard body case, where I can use my Steelie magnet.
Options I see:
Amazon # B015X90UJS - Supcase Unicorn Beetle "Slim"
Amazon # B015X9UR2S - Supcase Unicorn Beetle "Rugged"
Note: I'm a long time lurker, urls are bad, m'kay?
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Verus has been sending replacements out to customers with the usb cutout issue, I believe. May want to shoot them a quick email.
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Verus has been sending replacements out to customers with the usb cutout issue, I believe. May want to shoot them a quick email.
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After your comment, I realized I had a good filing kit, and shaved the port opening by just a little bit. Since I have the frost version of the 6P, the white of the plastic blends in fairly well.
I ended up getting the Supcase Unicorn Beetle "Slim" with the solid black backing, stuck my Steelie mount magnet to the back, and I'm completely good to go. It's a single piece case, which isn't my favorite option, but it's flexible enough to get the phone in, but rigid enough to be a task to get it out again. The solid rubber bumper is of good quality, and the backing is a great design. The fingerprint reader cutout is slightly larger than the fingerprint reader (unlike the Verus, which is the exact measurement) for easy access. I could continue, but Pilz has a better thread of case reviews (thread titled "Case Comparison: Spigen, Diztronic, TUDIA, SupCase & more").
For those who need a carry case, the Nite Ize Clip Case Sideways XXL is big enough to fit the 6P (search for the model number CCS2L-01-R3)
Harshmage said:
After your comment, I realized I had a good filing kit, and shaved the port opening by just a little bit. Since I have the frost version of the 6P, the white of the plastic blends in fairly well.
I ended up getting the Supcase Unicorn Beetle "Slim" with the solid black backing, stuck my Steelie mount magnet to the back, and I'm completely good to go. It's a single piece case, which isn't my favorite option, but it's flexible enough to get the phone in, but rigid enough to be a task to get it out again. The solid rubber bumper is of good quality, and the backing is a great design. The fingerprint reader cutout is slightly larger than the fingerprint reader (unlike the Verus, which is the exact measurement) for easy access. I could continue, but Pilz has a better thread of case reviews (thread titled "Case Comparison: Spigen, Diztronic, TUDIA, SupCase & more").
For those who need a carry case, the Nite Ize Clip Case Sideways XXL is big enough to fit the 6P (search for the model number CCS2L-01-R3)
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Verus will send you a new case for free. You just need to send them your order number.
I have the new case and it works great.
Harshmage said:
After your comment, I realized I had a good filing kit, and shaved the port opening by just a little bit. Since I have the frost version of the 6P, the white of the plastic blends in fairly well.
I ended up getting the Supcase Unicorn Beetle "Slim" with the solid black backing, stuck my Steelie mount magnet to the back, and I'm completely good to go. It's a single piece case, which isn't my favorite option, but it's flexible enough to get the phone in, but rigid enough to be a task to get it out again. The solid rubber bumper is of good quality, and the backing is a great design. The fingerprint reader cutout is slightly larger than the fingerprint reader (unlike the Verus, which is the exact measurement) for easy access. I could continue, but Pilz has a better thread of case reviews (thread titled "Case Comparison: Spigen, Diztronic, TUDIA, SupCase & more").
For those who need a carry case, the Nite Ize Clip Case Sideways XXL is big enough to fit the 6P (search for the model number CCS2L-01-R3)
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Hey with the Steelie mount / magnet comobo that you are using do you notice if it effects your wireless / gps? I kind of depend on the GPS and wireless features heavily for my usage.
one word... Poetic Revolution case... freaking awesome...
They sent me one for review, not a fan. TOO big, and I like a big tough case, and too many styling decisions for no reason. Fake screws, sharp corners, didn't like it.
Now the TUDIA OMNIX, that's a nice case...
Have you looked at the Speck Candyshell Grip? Not quite as rugged as an Otterbox, but it's still a polycarbonate shell with an inner silicone layer fused inside. Ports are third-party friendly and a car mount magnet fits inside just fine.
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Hey with the Steelie mount / magnet comobo that you are using do you notice if it effects your wireless / gps? I kind of depend on the GPS and wireless features heavily for my usage.
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Not that I've noticed. I play Ingress, which is very GPS and data dependent, and I've never had a problem since the Droid 4 (Droid 4 -> Droid Turbo -> Nexus 6P). For things like Ingress, it can mess with the compass (the direction it thinks you're pointing).
Has anyone ever tried an Evocel case? It looks kind of like a commuter series Otterbox, and their cases get pretty good reviews. I might try it out soon. I have the Speck Candyshell case now, but it's not super protective and the shiny black plastic scratches and shows fingerprints...
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Has anyone ever tried an Evocel case? It looks kind of like a commuter series Otterbox, and their cases get pretty good reviews. I might try it out soon. I have the Speck Candyshell case now, but it's not super protective and the shiny black plastic scratches and shows fingerprints...
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I haven't but I've been thinking about picking one up. They look really nice at the reviews are good but nobody's gone really super specific into the touch and feel. If too much of it is slick hard plastic and a fingerprint magnet I don't really want it. But it looks like this might fit inside of the unicorn beetle holster.
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I haven't but I've been thinking about picking one up. They look really nice at the reviews are good but nobody's gone really super specific into the touch and feel. If too much of it is slick hard plastic and a fingerprint magnet I don't really want it. But it looks like this might fit inside of the unicorn beetle holster.
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So I got that Evocel case and it's pretty great! Not quite the same quality as an Commuter series Otterbox, the rubber is a little less soft, the plastic a little cheaper and less flexible, but for $10 that's little to complain about. The buttons are slightly harder to press than without a case, but I prefer it.
The back plastic is mostly matte and doesn't show fingerprints very well. To me it's pretty grippy, but it's flat and not textured like an Otterbox case. Overall, I'd say it's worth $10 for sure!
Do you by chance have any holsters to see if it fits into them? Thanks for getting back, I was holding off on buying one, now I think I may.
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Do you by chance have any holsters to see if it fits into them? Thanks for getting back, I was holding off on buying one, now I think I may.
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Nah, I don't have a holster. Best of luck on that front!
I have a case similar to the evocell. its decent. I decided to pick up the unicorn beetle heavy duty. Thats what we use at work for our iphone 6 and we dont have any bend problems with them. Im not saying it cant happen. My only complaint is the plastic screen protector with them. they become scratched and usually have to be ripped out and replaced with a glass or vinyl one. I got the black one because Im cheap, but i was really digging the white one they have on amazon.
I would recommend the Nexus 6P Unicorn Beetle Pro Full Body Rugged, if you can find the old design.. the new one i find it ugly...
This is the new design,
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This is the old design
Old design shows more of the screen but there was some flaws with it, the built-in screen protector was poorly done. It can be fixed by removing it and using a separate screen protector, I have a TGSP and its nice.
the new designed one doesnt bother me. just ads that much more protection. The iphone ones are the same so im not sure why they made the 6p different
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So I had an otterbox for my phone but it definitely added too much bulk.
I went ahead and bought a variation of this case: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SGH-i..._1_9?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1328678954&sr=1-9.
It barely adds any bulk, is comfortable to hold, and is probably one of the best slim cases for our phones. I haven't seen any other ones this size. I ordered a red one off ebay for about the same (amazon didn't cover them).
My white skyrocket + this red case looks amazing!
Platinum Series from Best Buy has been my favorite with several devices.
Hard rubber feel, adds minimal bulk, flat black
I forget the name brand manufacturer of the case, although I think best buys "brand" are cheaper anyhow. Guys on here know the name brand, I'll edit if i remember.
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Platinum Series from Best Buy has been my favorite with several devices.
Hard rubber feel, adds minimal bulk, flat black
I forget the name brand manufacturer of the case, although I think best buys "brand" are cheaper anyhow. Guys on here know the name brand, I'll edit if i remember.
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Seidio makes them. I have a PT from Best Buy for my Skyrocket and love it!
i've always used TPU cases for my phones. they're really cheap too and they work/feel great
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Platinum Series from Best Buy has been my favorite with several devices.
Hard rubber feel, adds minimal bulk, flat black
I forget the name brand manufacturer of the case, although I think best buys "brand" are cheaper anyhow. Guys on here know the name brand, I'll edit if i remember.
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Seidio makes them. I have a PT from Best Buy for my Skyrocket and love it!
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Ya they're the Seidio Surface cases and at Best Buy they're $35 whereas on the Seidio site they're $55 I think... I love the seidio cases and have used them on last few phones. Only thing about the PT cases from BB they're a little looser than usual... The bottom cap on my case got a little loose after taking the case off the first time and seems like it's getting looser every time I take the case off... Guess I'm gonna have to look for another case that fits in the holster...
This is the one I got this from eBay (link):
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I bought a slim case by Diztronic on Amazon and I'm pretty impressed. It has a simple design and doesn't add a lot of bulk. Best of all for $12 delivered it can't be beat.
How much thicker would you say that SGP made the phone?
There is a rubber that goes around the screen which slightly raises the case but not by much...the rest fits like a glove so not much thicker.
Rearth has a slim case. i love it! BEST SLIM CASE. i also have a sgp neo hybrid as my rugged case.
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Rearth has a slim case. i love it! BEST SLIM CASE. i also have a sgp neo hybrid as my rugged case.
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Oh nice, I kinda wanna get 1 of those but they're out of the white... Have you seen the seidio surface case? If you have, how does the rearth case compare to that?
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i've always used TPU cases for my phones. they're really cheap too and they work/feel great
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I agree with you, for a slim case there is nothing slimmer than a TPU case. Also the TPU is smooth enough to let it slip in and out of your pockets.
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I agree with you, for a slim case there is nothing slimmer than a TPU case. Also the TPU is smooth enough to let it slip in and out of your pockets.
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Have you seen the rearth case? It really looks like it's slimmer than the TPU cases...
It does look like the Rearth case is better than the TPU cases and I would like to try one but they are currently out of stock for the skyrocket everywhere I have looked. I don't like the tpu cases I have tried since the ones made for slim phones cover the buttons and make them hard to press. I like the "hard" mesh cases that are the most lightweight and thinnest that I have seen for other phones, but the only two types made for the Skyrocket that I have found are either hybrid with TPU underneath or one I found on ebay that is thin and light, but does not protect the bottom or top edges or the corners and sticks out a bit so looks poorly made. Hopefully Rearth will produce another batch for the skyrocket. I currently have a snap on hard plastic type that works fine but is difficult to remove and since I occassionally have to do battery pulls (flash a lot of roms) and sometimes use a seidio extended battery, this is a factor, plus it is not as slim as it could be.
Has anyone ever dropped their phone with a Diztronic case on fro 3+ ft? How did it fair?
I currently have an Otterbox Commuter on my Captivate (which is getting replaced by a Skyrocket) and it has kept my phone from damage, but it adds more size than I like. The TPU cases don't look like they would protect a phone from more than scratches and small drops.
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Has anyone ever dropped their phone with a Diztronic case on fro 3+ ft? How did it fair?
I currently have an Otterbox Commuter on my Captivate (which is getting replaced by a Skyrocket) and it has kept my phone from damage, but it adds more size than I like. The TPU cases don't look like they would protect a phone from more than scratches and small drops.
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I have dropped my SR from roughly 4ft on a couple of occasions with a diztronic case (and SGP protector). One time it landed flat on the screen and the other time it landed on the top left corner and bounced a bit. The case, however, did its job (as did the screen protector for that matter) wonderfully and not a mark on the phone from dropping.
However, I can say that the diztronic gets dust inside it very easily and it has started to scuff the back and sides of the phone where it rubs. Not that serious to some but it is happening more and more as the case stretches out so if dust scuffs drive you nuts, beware.
I got my SR off Cl and it came with an Otterbox Defender. Solid case if you abuse your phone. I didn't like the size though. I've used the TPU cases with other phones and they are good, I've also used Casemate Barelythere...another solid slim option too, but they both offer very little actual protection. I wanted some protection without all that bulk so I bought a Seidio Active and love it. It adds substantial protect without excessive bulk.
http://goo.gl/F20V0
I got the black one, but to each his own...
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Oh nice, I kinda wanna get 1 of those but they're out of the white... Have you seen the seidio surface case? If you have, how does the rearth case compare to that?
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I come from the "slim" mentality, formerly I had a case-mate "Barley There" for my Blackberry 9700 Case Mate - Barely There 9700 | case-mate.com and now I have the Seidio Surface.
I am not used to a case protecting the front of a device, as the Active does, but it has saved me from a bind or two. When I had the barely there, my phone's corners got dinged up all the time. However, I find myself taking the device out of the case often because despite the fact that it is very small, it's not as small as the device itself (the case probably adds 4mm).
For the Active I would say:
Slim: 4/5 (4MM > without)
Protection: 4/5 (Minimal shock absorption)
For the Rearth i'm thinking:
Slim: 5/5 (I would say 1 - 2 MM > without)
Protection: 2/5 (corners open, face open)
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Has anyone ever dropped their phone with a Diztronic case on fro 3+ ft? How did it fair?
I currently have an Otterbox Commuter on my Captivate (which is getting replaced by a Skyrocket) and it has kept my phone from damage, but it adds more size than I like. The TPU cases don't look like they would protect a phone from more than scratches and small drops.
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I dropped my skyrocket from 3ft before with the TPU case. It was onto concrete/ sidwalk/ roadway material. I dropped it twice and there was no damage.
The only bad thing about the TPU cases is that the matte grey one turns yellow after a while...
Also, like another member mentioned, the volume buttons are really hard to press, or they press themselves if you don't cut the plastic out... but if you do cut the plastic out of the area where the volume buttons are, then it's hard to press the volume buttons
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I dropped my skyrocket from 3ft before with the TPU case. It was onto concrete/ sidwalk/ roadway material. I dropped it twice and there was no damage.
The only bad thing about the TPU cases is that the matte grey one turns yellow after a while...
Also, like another member mentioned, the volume buttons are really hard to press, or they press themselves if you don't cut the plastic out... but if you do cut the plastic out of the area where the volume buttons are, then it's hard to press the volume buttons
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Darn, that's the one I got
Hey guys,
Got a poll up and looking for feedback on what you guys think of these cases. They are all similar to each other in the sense that they have a plastic outer shell with a soft hybrid inner shell. All of them come in white and they range from $25-35 dollars. Personally I'm between the Spigen and Speck but I wanted to throw in the otterbox as another option. If you guys have something else in mind also let me know.
Thanks for the feedback guys,
JD
1) Spigen Slim Armor - $25 (Really love the price and i believe the speak grill is raised to allow for better sound transfer, not 100% sure)
2) Speck Candyshell - $35
3) Otterbox Commuter - $35
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Forgot to mention, that they all have rubber at certain points on them so if anyone has used these, how are they with pocket lint?
I'll have a review of the Speck Candyshell up later today. I have both the Candyshell and Candyshell Grip.
Here's my review of the Slim Armor: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2262605
All three are very nice cases. The Otterbox and Candyshell offer the best protection. The lip on the Slim Armor is very low, but the trade off is the case is very slim. Personally, I would get the Candyshell or Slim Armor. The Otterbox is very durable though, and if you need the absolute best protection, get it.
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I'll have a review of the Speck Candyshell up later today. I have both the Candyshell and Candyshell Grip.
Here's my review of the Slim Armor: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2262605
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Thanks, i'll be sure to check them out.
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Thanks, i'll be sure to check them out.
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Oops, I added some more info to my other post
Is the speaker grill on the slim armor raised to allow it to sound good even when placed with the screen up?
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Is the speaker grill on the slim armor raised to allow it to sound good even when placed with the screen up?
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It's pretty flush. I attached a few pictures that should show the grill and how the phone lies.
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... The lip on the Slim Armor is very low...
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Spigen are #### ing idiots!
They could have easily made the lip a little larger for better front protection but noooooooooooo.
They probably just made the case like that to try and squeeze more money out of customers to buy their screen protectors as well
Spigen doesn't deserve any of our money for this greedy design flaw!
That was disappointing to find that out, i'm probably leaning towards the speck case now.
The Spigen Slim Armor, slim cases look the best. Personally i'm going commando with mine. I just can't put my phone in a case it makes it look worse and i like it look and be thin. It fits my pocket better. But if your a builder or trades working. I good case is a must..
ap3604 said:
Spigen are #### ing idiots!
They could have easily made the lip a little larger for better front protection but noooooooooooo.
They probably just made the case like that to try and squeeze more money out of customers to buy their screen protectors as well
Spigen doesn't deserve any of our money for this greedy design flaw!
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As I mentioned in the other thread you posted this in, it's called the "Slim Armor" for a reason. It isn't meant to be a bulky, full protection case.
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As I mentioned in the other thread you posted this in, it's called the "Slim Armor" for a reason. It isn't meant to be a bulky, full protection case.
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And I'll respond to both in kind: If your case has the word "armor" in it... then it should be able to protect the screen from smashing if its dropped
A little bit more lip would have completely taken care of this problem and allowed it to maintain it's slimness.
They definitely won't get a dime from me, as I will be returning mine, and I encourage others to not purchase from them for making so obvious a cash grab design flaw.
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And I'll respond to both in kind: If your case has the word "armor" in it... then it should be able to protect the screen from smashing if its dropped
A little bit more lip would have completely taken care of this problem and allowed it to maintain it's slimness.
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Armor =/= massive lip
Just like Otterbox =/= case made out of otter.
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They definitely won't get a dime from me, as I will be returning mine, and I encourage others to not purchase from them for making so obvious a cash grab design flaw.
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If you aren't going to keep yours, and you're going to get a full refund, why do you continually bash this case?
A design flaw is something that blocks actual function, like some of the HTC One cases that cover the IR blaster/power button. This case was specifically designed to be as thin as possible.
I'm not going to bash the Otterbox Defender because I think it's too bulky, I just won't buy it. Some people want that kind of protection. On the other side, some people want a very low lever of protection.
I just bought the Speck candy shell case at Best Buy as I didn't want to take my new phone to work without any protection. So far I like it. The fit is nice and tight, the rubberised buttons feel good, and the raised lip around the screen allows you to put the phone face down without scratching the glass. I also like the fact that the majority of the case is shiny so it slips into a pocket much more easily than the T-Mo TPU case I have for my original Galaxy S. I'm still going to get one of the Spigen glass screen protectors to go with it, but it'll do without for a couple of days more.
Another plus for Speck is they seem to have some more feminine colours. The Spigen cases are all black + one other colour, which doesn't look right with a white phone in my opinion. The Speck case I bought is white with turquoise and looks pretty sharp. It's also feminine without being pink
Hinduboy, with regard to pocket lint, it's not a total lint magnet like some cases, but it definitely picks up a bit. It seems to be quite attractive to cat fur!
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Spigen Slim is a nice looking, seems it is a Korea brand?
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I just bought the Speck candy shell case at Best Buy as I didn't want to take my new phone to work without any protection. So far I like it. The fit is nice and tight, the rubberised buttons feel good, and the raised lip around the screen allows you to put the phone face down without scratching the glass. I also like the fact that the majority of the case is shiny so it slips into a pocket much more easily than the T-Mo TPU case I have for my original Galaxy S. I'm still going to get one of the Spigen glass screen protectors to go with it, but it'll do without for a couple of days more.
Another plus for Speck is they seem to have some more feminine colours. The Spigen cases are all black + one other colour, which doesn't look right with a white phone in my opinion. The Speck case I bought is white with turquoise and looks pretty sharp. It's also feminine without being pink
Hinduboy, with regard to pocket lint, it's not a total lint magnet like some cases, but it definitely picks up a bit. It seems to be quite attractive to cat fur!
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Is hat particular speck case difficult to remove? Menacing taking it on/off?
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Is hat particular speck case difficult to remove? Menacing taking it on/off?
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Not difficult at all. It's less flexible than a regular TPU case, but since the front lip is all TPU it comes off pretty easily if you need to get to the battery or SD card.
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Not difficult at all. It's less flexible than a regular TPU case, but since the front lip is all TPU it comes off pretty easily if you need to get to the battery or SD card.
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Awesome! Tanks for the input. In BB right now lol. Heading to the register. Thanks again!
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mahgnillig said:
I just bought the Speck candy shell case at Best Buy as I didn't want to take my new phone to work without any protection. So far I like it. The fit is nice and tight, the rubberised buttons feel good, and the raised lip around the screen allows you to put the phone face down without scratching the glass. I also like the fact that the majority of the case is shiny so it slips into a pocket much more easily than the T-Mo TPU case I have for my original Galaxy S. I'm still going to get one of the Spigen glass screen protectors to go with it, but it'll do without for a couple of days more.
Another plus for Speck is they seem to have some more feminine colours. The Spigen cases are all black + one other colour, which doesn't look right with a white phone in my opinion. The Speck case I bought is white with turquoise and looks pretty sharp. It's also feminine without being pink
Hinduboy, with regard to pocket lint, it's not a total lint magnet like some cases, but it definitely picks up a bit. It seems to be quite attractive to cat fur!
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I did see that they have those cases at BBY but i was hoping they had the white/grey combo they only had the black and white/blue one. I might just end up ordering it through amazon. I've been using the platinum series white plastic case in the mean time.
What about the Spigen Neo Hybrid, Case-Mate Tough, or Incipio DualPro (Regular & Shine Versions)? They are very comparable to the cases mentioned above.
I just ordered the Diztronic case from Amazon. Not set to be released until Nov 4, but since my phone isn't set to ship until the 23-25, it should be here in plenty of time.
So far this looks like like the best option to me.
I've used their cases for past nexus phones and they've always done well. Some movement a year in but overall thin and protect it without being bulky
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I tried several cases, this is definitely my favorite. Very grippy and the buttons are so easy to push.
Does this that a textured inside or the air pocket corners?
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I got mine last week. Great case as usual.
Best and most elegant phone case I've ever had. Now where's my full coverage screen protector?
I order this on Amazon last Saturday and got it Tuesday. It's a temporary case until something thinner comes out, but I agree it's the best option. It's a nice case, it's TOO bulking and very grippy (but not too much where I can't slide it in my pocket. Great fit and I recommend anyone who likes a thin case who is waiting for a CaliCase to get this in the mean time!
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Mines super slick should of waited for pixlee one. Love the buttons on it though. But someone just said the parallax case is only .5mm thicker than the maxboost so I may get that instead.
I got this case as well. I really dislike the raised side lip it has, it makes it feel more bulky than I prefer. If it didn't have that raised side lip I would love this case.
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I've gone through the Sparin case from Amazon and three Google cases, the clear, the silicon and a Live case. The Diztronic blows them all away in terms of actual protection from a very minimal form factor. The Sparin is a nice case, especially for $10, but it feels pretty flimsy when compared to the Diztronic. I had a D case with my N6 and am not at all surprised that I've sifted through other cases to land back in D's corner. The only thing I would probably trade it for is a really nicely done leather case (looking at you, Bellroy).
https://www.amazon.com/Pixel-Diztronic-Slim-Fit-Flexible-Google/dp/B01M35YM2M
They just posted some new cases too.. Full Matte with popping colors;
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The Pixelee also in awesome colors;
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I order this on Amazon last Saturday and got it Tuesday. It's a temporary case until something thinner comes out, but I agree it's the best option. It's a nice case, it's TOO bulking and very grippy (but not too much where I can't slide it in my pocket. Great fit and I recommend anyone who likes a thin case who is waiting for a CaliCase to get this in the mean time!
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The Diztronic is too bulky??? I don't see how you'd possibly get a thinner TPU case. It'd be so thin it'd be useless, or you're approaching sticker protection.
I have the Diztronic and the similar Spigen Armor (no plastic, just TPU) and the Spigen's sides are slightly thicker, presumably with their "air" protection, but otherwise the cases are very similar in feel. Spigen has more "design" to it, including the carbon spot (which I personally dislike) but otherwise both cases are very similar.
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The Diztronic is too bulky??? I don't see how you'd possibly get a thinner TPU case. It'd be so thin it'd be useless, or you're approaching sticker protection.
I have the Diztronic and the similar Spigen Armor (no plastic, just TPU) and the Spigen's sides are slightly thicker, presumably with their "air" protection, but otherwise the cases are very similar in feel. Spigen has more "design" to it, including the carbon spot (which I personally dislike) but otherwise both cases are very similar.
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Some people don't want a case at all but want to protect against bumps, scratches for example https://9to5toys.com/2014/10/29/thinnest-iphone-6-plus-cases-prevent-camera-wobble/
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The Diztronic is too bulky??? I don't see how you'd possibly get a thinner TPU case. It'd be so thin it'd be useless, or you're approaching sticker protection.
I have the Diztronic and the similar Spigen Armor (no plastic, just TPU) and the Spigen's sides are slightly thicker, presumably with their "air" protection, but otherwise the cases are very similar in feel. Spigen has more "design" to it, including the carbon spot (which I personally dislike) but otherwise both cases are very similar.
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I posted on another thread about wanting something that doesn't protect against impact, just scuffs to the sides and back. I want something similar to The Veil by Caudable that is ultra thin.
So is it too grippy or slick..I've seen both comments. Also do the matte and pixlee ones feel the same
I just received my diztronic case. As usual it is top quality. I used them on my Nexus 5X, and to be honest, for quality non hardshell cases that are out soon after phone releases...they really are worth the money.
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Q.) So is it too grippy or slick..I've seen both comments. Also do the matte and pixlee ones feel the same
A.) Honestly...Its pretty well balanced. I personally like it a BIT more grippy, but my experience with diztronic cases, is that the longer you ahve them your hand wears down the matte a TINY bit(not enough to SEE) and it becomes perfectly grippy.
Q.) Does this that a textured inside or the air pocket corners?
A.) no.
Will edit this post with any other questions about the case.
Just received my black pixlee case and it's my first Diztronic case and I love it! It's so minimal and classy.
AllusionPDX said:
I just received my diztronic case. As usual it is top quality. I used them on my Nexus 5X, and to be honest, for quality non hardshell cases that are out soon after phone releases...they really are worth the money.
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Q.) So is it too grippy or slick..I've seen both comments. Also do the matte and pixlee ones feel the same
A.) Honestly...Its pretty well balanced. I personally like it a BIT more grippy, but my experience with diztronic cases, is that the longer you ahve them your hand wears down the matte a TINY bit(not enough to SEE) and it becomes perfectly grippy.
Q.) Does this that a textured inside or the air pocket corners?
A.) no.
Will edit this post with any other questions about the case.
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Just received my black pixlee case and it's my first Diztronic case and I love it! It's so minimal and classy.
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Let's get some pictures, I like to see what they look like.
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Let's get some pictures, I like to see what they look like.
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I do not have any way to take pictures of it on the phone, but I do have my Nexus 5x, which fits exactly the same. To the point that when I reach into my bag to grab one,i don't realize which one I am holding for a good amount of time.
My favorite feature about them is the buttons though. It gives them this perfect tactile clicky feel that you don't get with anything else.
These are great cases. Just ordered my second one (different color)
Similar to the LG V30 "cases" thread -- but specifically for belt holsters/wallet style holder for the LG V30. I do NOT like to stick my phone in my pants pocket, where's there's car keys, coins, etc that may scratch the display. Even with a bumper case, I also use a belt-style holster for my smartphones. My wife uses something similar to stick her phone in her purse, to protect against all the metal objects in there. We both have TPU bumper cases for drops. This is for additional protection when not using the phone and means to carry it.
These are my search parameters, but you can change them... You can narrow to type of material, design, whatever. Right now there's almost a thousand search results and that will probably only increase!
LG V30 HOLSTERS: EBAY LISTINGS -- LOWEST PRICES FIRST, FREE SHIPPING, BUY IT NOW, WORLDWIDE SEARCH.
SOME of the belt style holsters do attach to the back of the phone, so there may some overlap in the "cases" and "holsters" threads -- but I thought this category is also important as it's not the bumper cases or even hybrid cases.
EXAMPLES:
Leather Sideways Holster/Case for Cell Phones COMPATIBLE WITH Otterbox Symmetry (or Otterbox Defender)
$6.34 with FREE shipping
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Here's a leather belt LG V30 holster that is wide enough to also let you have a bumper case on your phone. Just specify in the drop down menu how big you want "Otterbox Symmetry" big or "Otterbox Defender" big? Of course, prices change, but that's the price right now.
Here's the rugged nylon type my wife likes:
Luxmo Vertical Holster Belt Clip Pouch Holster/Case
$5.95 with FREE shipping
Just specify in the drop down menu you want LG V30.
I usually do the seidio surface/holster combo but they are not out yet.
I snagged this for the belt clip
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0764MK8TT/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And am using this phone case
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0734ZX4RH/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
They work perfectly together.
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I snagged this for the belt clip
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0764MK8TT/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And am using this phone case
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0734ZX4RH/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
They work perfectly together.
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Interesting.
steve841 said:
I snagged this for the belt clip
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0764MK8TT/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And am using this phone case
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0734ZX4RH/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
They work perfectly together.
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@steve841 and @ChazzMatt, just wanted to say I bought both of these products and steve841 is right, these go perfectly together. The fit is perfect. It feels really secure.
steve841 said:
I snagged this for the belt clip
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0764MK8TT/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And am using this phone case
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0734ZX4RH/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
They work perfectly together.
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Hey, thanks for that. I will not buy this phone without a holster -- I need it for work -- and I hate the thought of running the V30 with an ugly case. Your setup might do the trick until a case-free holster is released.
On that note, I chatted with Seidio and emailed Encased.
They both told me there are no current plans for naked holster (Sedio "Spring Clip" series and Encased "Case Free" series). But the V30 is getting enough strong buzz that I'm counting on there being demand for it.
In the past, I've compared dimensions of other phones and found holsters that were a close enough fit to hold me over. I'm not finding a good candidate for this phone.
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any reason why you will not be making surface cases for the LGV30
I see it for S8 and google hones
I've been using that case on everyone of my phones
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huh its top 3 in the market today top tier phone and ranks with the pixedl 2 xl and note 8
so no holster either than I asume? Read
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Hey Now! I've got my chosen combo.
For the holster, I picked up the Encased Duraclip that Steve841 linked to above. Note that unlike the Seidio Spring Clip, which has a great and easy to use mechanism to "clip in" and "clip out" the phone in a very fluid motion, this particular Encased holster requires the phone to be slid in lengthwise, and it's a friction fit -- there's no positive latch.
I also tried out faux leather holsters by Goalany and SumacLife from Amazon. The Goalany unit was too room -- it could handle a 3/4" phone or a thick Otterbox case. The SumacLife was a good fit, but not the swiftest to get the phone out.
https://www.encased.com/products/lg...-series-slim-grip-case-belt-clip-smooth-black
I ordered a bunch of cases to try out. Didn't like the Ringke Fusion clear. It's two pieces and as shown in other posts, is going to yellow. The Ringke Onyx was acceptable but I'm not a fan of the raised edge along either side of the screen. The TopAce Ultra Thin was probably my runner up. The case that came with the Encased holster is hard plastic and durable, but interferes slightly with my Tylt Vu charger (I have to slide the phone about 1/2 inch up the incline to get the charger to activate, then I can let it sit in the cradle properly and it charges no problem. Oh -- all of these cases worked well with the Encased holster.
The case I ended up with? The Lumion Huey. It's pretty minimal. The case is every so slightly raised along the top and bottom edges of the phone, but its edges sit a little lower along the sides, unlike the others. It's a compromise of protection for usability. It slides very nicely into the Encased holster, about the same amount of resistance The design along the back reminds me of the Pixels. I really like how they created a symmetric cut-out for the camera and flash -- this design decision makes the other cases look weird. The sides of the case are every so slightly ribbed in the long direction for grip, while enhancing the slide-in / slide-out properties of the holster. All of the cutouts are excellent with the exception of the audio jack, which is just slightly off (visible, but less than a millimeter).
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/08/lumion-announces-three-cases-for-the-lg-v30.html
As an aside, I wasn't too sure what to expect of the Huey, but it showed up in a plastic retail display package that looks like it should cost more than the TPU case contained inside!
Just seen this on encased. I am ordering one now.
killakarl said:
Just seen this on encased. I am ordering one now.
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Ah, thank you but curses! Also available on Amazon for $16, I see.
I have five holsters for other phones in front of me, delivered yesterday from Amazon.
I was just minutes away from transplanting the spring clip from a Seidio iPhone 6 plus holster onto a Seidio holster for the Nexus 6, which would have given me the perfect fit for my V30 in its slim Lumion Huey case.
I'm ordering the Encased holster now, but I'm going to hang on to my collection of others until I receive it, just to hedge my bet.
I am just excited for a spring clip. I absolutely dislike the ones you have to slide. The horizontal clip seems way to finicky. Sometimes I have to use both hands to get it out. So it is an definite for me to have the spring clip. I asked them earlier if they were going to have them and they told me no. So I was pleasantly surprised to see this.
Well poop, the Encased spring clip holster arrived today and it's s no-go with the TPU case I'm using.
I'm sure it's fine with the big, clunky., ugly hard plastic case that's included. With TPU there's a 1/8 gap between the screen and face of holster; it rattles around like mad.
I think I'll have to go with my hybrid Seidio setup of the iPhone 6 plus holster and Nexus 6 clip.
Nay Tyzon said:
Well poop, the Encased spring clip holster arrived today and it's s no-go with the TPU case I'm using.
I'm sure it's fine with the big, clunky., ugly hard plastic case that's included. With TPU there's a 1/8 gap between the screen and face of holster; it rattles around like mad.
I think I'll have to go with my hybrid Seidio setup of the iPhone 6 plus holster and Nexus 6 clip.
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I don't think the case that came with it was too bulky. But at least the hole for the headphone jack is a little better than the other cases I have. It looks to be off a bit still. But even having smaller cases, I still don't like the wiggle but at least it won't be in my pocket. I dislike having my phone's in my pocket. The spring clip is a must though.
killakarl said:
I don't think the case that came with it was too bulky. But at least the hole for the headphone jack is a little better than the other cases I have. It looks to be off a bit still. But even having smaller cases, I still don't like the wiggle but at least it won't be in my pocket. I dislike having my phone's in my pocket. The spring clip is a must though.
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I'm using at Lumion Huey TPU case, and it's very similar in dimensions to the other TPU cases I ordered up, made by Ringke and TopACE.
As long as I can find a way to get Seidio's pin removed from, then resecured back into the spring clip hinge, I'll be golden with their iPhone 6 Plus holster for the V30.
Frustrating.
Nay Tyzon said:
I'm using at Lumion Huey TPU case, and it's very similar in dimensions to the other TPU cases I ordered up, made by Ringke and TopACE.
As long as I can find a way to get Seidio's pin removed from, then resecured back into the spring clip hinge, I'll be golden with their iPhone 6 Plus holster for the V30.
Frustrating.
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You might need a link remover like for a watch band.
My Supcase Unicorn Beetle Pro case has a holster. It's ugly and oldskool 90s like but it's there. I just use it as a stand though for watching videos.
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I'm using my old Note 4 Pdair holster case with my LG V30 WITH the spigen neo hybrid case. Fits pretty good. I'm happy with it
I have this case. i dont use the belt clip/holster but its of good quality and the case is pretty awesome.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074XGX1TY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
seang said:
I have this case. i dont use the belt clip/holster but its of good quality and the case is pretty awesome.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074XGX1TY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I have the same... Used one in my N6 as well... Great case and holster does work on belt nicely.
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seang said:
I have this case. i dont use the belt clip/holster but its of good quality and the case is pretty awesome.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074XGX1TY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Oh and Seang... If you're not using the holster, you can always send it my way! Lol!
Hey Guys I bought the Poetic Guardian case from amazon. Been using it for a few days now. I can say without a doubt its the nicest rugged case for the Essential phone(even tho its slim pickins)
Here's some photos: https://imgur.com/a/turfK
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I really like that its rugged and has a nice lip but you can also see the really nice white color on the back. The screen protector is pretty good too. Nice and thick. No touch response issues at all. It does rainbow a tiny bit but its not super noticeable. All the cutouts are great, especially the fixed earpiece and notification light . The mic cutouts are great, the charging port is nice with a cover. The rubber around the edges(black color) has a nice grippy soft feeling to it. Overall I'm very happy with it. The lip protection is something I was really looking for. Overall I'd def recommend this case. My rankings are 1) poetic guardian and 2) tudia tamm case.
aknotts415 said:
Hey Guys I bought the Poetic Guardian case from amazon. Been using it for a few days now. I can say without a doubt its the nicest rugged case for the Essential phone(even tho its slim pickins)
Here's some photos: https://imgur.com/a/turfK
I really like that its rugged and has a nice lip but you can also see the really nice white color on the back. The screen protector is pretty good too. Nice and thick. No touch response issues at all. It does rainbow a tiny bit but its not super noticeable. All the cutouts are great, especially the fixed earpiece and notification light . The mic cutouts are great, the charging port is nice with a cover. The rubber around the edges(black color) has a nice grippy soft feeling to it. Overall I'm very happy with it. The lip protection is something I was really looking for. Overall I'd def recommend this case. My rankings are 1) poetic guardian and 2) tudia tamm case.
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I'm using the Incipio DualPro Case. Are you familiar with that one? I'm curious how it compares with the two you mention . Most of the cases for this phone are pretty lousy. I like Spigen cases but they didn't bother making one for this phone. No Otterbox either and no belt clip holster. I had to mod an iPhone X belt clip. It's too bad accessories are so poor for this phone.
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I'm using the Incipio DualPro Case. Are you familiar with that one? I'm curious how it compares with the two you mention . Most of the cases for this phone are pretty lousy. I like Spigen cases but they didn't bother making one for this phone. No Otterbox either and no belt clip holster. I had to mod an iPhone X belt clip. It's too bad accessories are so poor for this phone.
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I had the dualpro for the HTC U11. It was pretty good. It wasnt very grippy at all. But it was a good case. Id say a big advantage on the poetic gurardian is it has a big lip around the screen and id bet u can pop out the built in protector and put in a glass one and it would stay. The dual pro and tudia im guessing would make the glass protectors pop off easy.
I've tried many of the cases for this phone. So far, I would have to say that this one is probably my favorite.
The only issue I have with it is the fact that the built-in screen protector seems to have no oleophobic coating, and is a horrible fingerprint magnet.
If anyone is interested, second place would go to :
https://www.amazon.com/Miubox-Anti-...2331854&sr=1-11&keywords=essential+phone+case
Only real problem with this one is that it doesn't have a built-in screen protector.
As for protection, this one I would say is best:
https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Fe...2331854&sr=1-19&keywords=essential+phone+case
However, it killed my GPS signal. I had some cell signal drop, which I expected since it is a metal case. I didn't expect the horrible drop in GPS though. If you don't care about GPS, and want a case you can throw against the wall and probably not hurt your phone, than go with this one.
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I've tried many of the cases for this phone. So far, I would have to say that this one is probably my favorite.
The only issue I have with it is the fact that the built-in screen protector seems to have no oleophobic coating, and is a horrible fingerprint magnet.
If anyone is interested, second place would go to :
https://www.amazon.com/Miubox-Anti-...2331854&sr=1-11&keywords=essential+phone+case
Only real problem with this one is that it doesn't have a built-in screen protector.
As for protection, this one I would say is best:
https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Fe...2331854&sr=1-19&keywords=essential+phone+case
However, it killed my GPS signal. I had some cell signal drop, which I expected since it is a metal case. I didn't expect the horrible drop in GPS though. If you don't care about GPS, and want a case you can throw against the wall and probably not hurt your phone, than go with this one.
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My v2 poetic case screen protector is all scuffed up, but it still looks sharp.
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I wish they would just make the Poetic Affinity for this phone and call it a day.
I love that there's a flap covering the USB slot in the phone. I work in construction, and I was always digging dirt, dust, concrete, and pocket lint out of my HTC U11 after work before I could even plug the charger in
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I wish they would just make the Poetic Affinity for this phone and call it a day.
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This! Lol I also have this Guardian case. Had the v1 that didn't have the right cutout on top for the notification LED, got the revised version for free but didn't use it for more than a week. I'm not too keen on flaps covering charging ports. They almost always end up getting too loose over time and won't close fully again. I'd still use it had they used a tgsp instead of plastic for the screen cover.
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This! Lol I also have this Guardian case. Had the v1 that didn't have the right cutout on top for the notification LED, got the revised version for free but didn't use it for more than a week. I'm not too keen on flaps covering charging ports. They almost always end up getting too loose over time and won't close fully again. I'd still use it had they used a tgsp instead of plastic for the screen cover.
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I popped out that plastic POS and put a glass one on the phone before putting the case on.
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I popped out that plastic POS and put a glass one on the phone before putting the case on.
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I was thinking of that as I had some lying around but wasn't sure the case would still fit snugly or would just break from the pressure. How's it holding on now?
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I was thinking of that as I had some lying around but wasn't sure the case would still fit snugly or would just break from the pressure. How's it holding on now?
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Working great after 3 days. 2 on the weekend weren't a surprise. But, had it in my pocket at the construction job, and did not have a single issue with screen protector popping
I see there is a "revised" version of this... looking for something similar to otterbox for my uncle. Seems like this poetic guardian or the Miubox are the only things similar to an otterbox (the poetic even more so).
anyone happen to have other suggestions or recommendations besides those two?
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I see there is a "revised" version of this... looking for something similar to otterbox for my uncle. Seems like this poetic guardian or the Miubox are the only things similar to an otterbox (the poetic even more so).
anyone happen to have other suggestions or recommendations besides those two?
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Essential PH-1 Case,Feitenn Essential Hybrid Armor Alloy Aluminum Metal Bumper Case Gorilla Glass Soft Rubber Silicone Military Heavy Duty Shockproof Hard Case For Essential case (Black, Essential) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078HMR2GT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_N08vBbMN93EB8
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Essential PH-1 Case,Feitenn Essential Hybrid Armor Alloy Aluminum Metal Bumper Case Gorilla Glass Soft Rubber Silicone Military Heavy Duty Shockproof Hard Case For Essential case (Black, Essential) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078HMR2GT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_N08vBbMN93EB8
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hmm some reviewers mentioned even worse signal with it on... not a good thing since the phone already has iffy reception issues etc
x000x said:
hmm some reviewers mentioned even worse signal with it on... not a good thing since the phone already has iffy reception issues etc
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I'll have to put the Poetic back on and see if there's any noticeable difference. I usually can blame my poor signal on being with Sprint. Never thought about it being the device case.
RandomPooka said:
I'll have to put the Poetic back on and see if there's any noticeable difference. I usually can blame my poor signal on being with Sprint. Never thought about it being the device case.
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I'm on Sprint and the combo of that provider and the poor reception of the phone is the worst possible combo... Lol
gqukyo said:
I'm on Sprint and the combo of that provider and the poor reception of the phone is the worst possible combo... Lol
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I went to grab it last night after posting that and can't remember where the darn thing is. I know I set it aside somewhere safe, I just don't know WHERE...
The "revised" one I believe is just the corrected one with the LED finally showing on the earpiece portion of the front. I don't think there's any other revisions after that correction.
Found my Poetic case. It was in the box my other one came in. I'll see if I notice any signal strength differences tomorrow, since I'm working on the same job site
Judging solely on insanely improved battery life, I'm going to gurss that this case is better for signal strength than my other case.
My home wifi is also decent in places it was only so-so or completely absent before. Looks like that steel frame wasn't doing my reception any favors.