Okay, so I recently bought a used Moto G LTE, seller said it would be on Lollipop 5.1. When I received it, it had been rolled back to 4.4.4. Hence the screen ripple at every boot up (which persists until the phone is locked and then unlocked) that almost gave me a heart attack the first time. A little googling later I learn this happens because while you can downgrade android the upgraded version's bootloader remains. So last night I finally got around to rooting since I just can't go from a rooted phone to living with a non rooted one, feels like my phone has a noose around it. Anyway I wanted to know if it's safe to flash CM on my phone now or should I reupgrade to 5.1 first? And if I should is there a way to get it to update OTA again? If not any suggestions where to find the firmware? I just want to feel free to flash roms without bricking my phone. Here is a screenshot of my About Phone, in case someone needs it to help, imgur.com /v8iLOU7
electriceccentric said:
Okay, so I recently bought a used Moto G LTE, seller said it would be on Lollipop 5.1. When I received it, it had been rolled back to 4.4.4. Hence the screen ripple at every boot up (which persists until the phone is locked and then unlocked) that almost gave me a heart attack the first time. A little googling later I learn this happens because while you can downgrade android the upgraded version's bootloader remains. So last night I finally got around to rooting since I just can't go from a rooted phone to living with a non rooted one, feels like my phone has a noose around it. Anyway I wanted to know if it's safe to flash CM on my phone now or should I reupgrade to 5.1 first? And if I should is there a way to get it to update OTA again? If not any suggestions where to find the firmware? I just want to feel free to flash roms without bricking my phone. Here is a screenshot of my About Phone, in case someone needs it to help, imgur.com /v8iLOU7
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Hi.
In my xt1040, i can flash CM 12 lollipop or a stock rom based from kitkat 4.4.4 without problems (I have a updated bootloader), to get OTA updates again, its necessary flash the stock rom (KK or LP), without root, PURE stock (with all "bloatware").
Now im using a optimized rom from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/4g-development/rom-stock-motorola-4g-lollipop-rom-t3142816
No bugs, amazing battery life, and a pure stock, no "bloatware", great ram management.
Sorry for bad english.
electriceccentric said:
Okay, so I recently bought a used Moto G LTE, seller said it would be on Lollipop 5.1. When I received it, it had been rolled back to 4.4.4. Hence the screen ripple at every boot up (which persists until the phone is locked and then unlocked) that almost gave me a heart attack the first time. A little googling later I learn this happens because while you can downgrade android the upgraded version's bootloader remains. So last night I finally got around to rooting since I just can't go from a rooted phone to living with a non rooted one, feels like my phone has a noose around it. Anyway I wanted to know if it's safe to flash CM on my phone now or should I reupgrade to 5.1 first? And if I should is there a way to get it to update OTA again? If not any suggestions where to find the firmware? I just want to feel free to flash roms without bricking my phone. Here is a screenshot of my About Phone, in case someone needs it to help, imgur.com /v8iLOU7
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You'll have to wipe the system anyway, updating it will be a waste of time...
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Okay I know your probably gonna think outright this an Android L page right, I'll not lie yes but in a different way.
Okay right now I'm running Motorola Stock Android 4.4.4, yes I have messed around flashed to GPE came back; back and forth. You get my point
So here's my question (its a big staged one)
If history is going to repeat itself that means the GPE edition of the G will get the update faster than the
Moto stock G. So if i were to say flash to GPE and keep it like that, the bootloader being unlocked would the Lollipop update work on the GPE or can I lock my bootloader to GPE (keep in mind mine is a XT1033) which i think isn't possible.
Why the concern on GPE and unlocked is cause Lollipop is the going to be the most secure android release and bootloader and secure go hand in hand..
Thanks for any insight/help
siddharthnair96 said:
Okay I know your probably gonna think outright this an Android L page right, I'll not lie yes but in a different way.
Okay right now I'm running Motorola Stock Android 4.4.4, yes I have messed around flashed to GPE came back; back and forth. You get my point
So here's my question (its a big staged one)
If history is going to repeat itself that means the GPE edition of the G will get the update faster than the
Moto stock G. So if i were to say flash to GPE and keep it like that, the bootloader being unlocked would the Lollipop update work on the GPE or can I lock my bootloader to GPE (keep in mind mine is a XT1033) which i think isn't possible.
Why the concern on GPE and unlocked is cause Lollipop is the going to be the most secure android release and bootloader and secure go hand in hand..
Thanks for any insight/help
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I'm afraid that if you have GPe and OTA to Lollipop, maybe you wont be able to flash KitKat, something like that happened when KitKat arrived and people wasnt able to flash Jelly Bean anymore because some things changed inside software. So I think this will happen when Lollipop arrives, some changes in the software will prevent downgrading Android versions. Later on, firmware images of Lollipop will appear and then maybe it will be possible to flash Moto Lollipop but with no more posibility to go back to KitKat.. IMHO I preffer waiting for Moto Lollipop...
And yes.. The Lollipop update is going to work on GPe only if you have stock recovery on it, and you will loose root access since a major system update means all system files being erased and replaced with brand new files, that also means formatting system partition and root files being formatted as well. So if you want, keep GPe but with stock recovery to make the OTA work properly.
siddharthnair96 said:
If history is going to repeat itself that means the GPE edition of the G will get the update faster than the
Moto stock G.
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Non gpe moto G got update from 4.3 to 4.4.2 faster than gpe one. So we can't say for sure which one will get L first.
Hey Guys -
I've looked all through the forums for an answer, but couldn't find a concrete one nor one I was 100% would work for my specific device so decided to post the 3 questions I have...
I've got a Shield Tablet (Wi-Fi USA) which I bought pretty much on day one. Once Lollipop came out, I upgraded to it and in turn re-rooted it afterwards. About a week ago, i got the notification for the 5.0.1 OTA upgrade. I tried applying it by downloading the update then restarting when prompted, but when it came back up it was still at 5.0.0. I'm positive this is due to it being rooted and would still want (need) for it to be after the 5.0.1 upgrade so...
1. What's the best / safest way to apply 5.0.1 (from 5.0.0) to my tablet currently?
2. Will OTA not work if rooted which is why there are so many zip file links in the forums? If not, which update file do I need for USA WiFi only?
3. Once upgraded, what's the best / safest method for re-rooting again? I saw a few posts for how the bootloader needed to be unlocked. Don't know if that's still the latest info. Long way from Towel, huh?
I'm not asking anyone to spell it all out for me, but if you know what to do if you could send me links or whatever to the correct steps / files, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks guys!
When my regular moto G was at 4.4.4 I decided to "upgrade" my phone to 5.0.1 GPE. Then, for some reason, I did not want GPE 5.0.1 anymore, so I downgraded to stock 4.4.4 then installed cyanogenmod 5.0.2.
The result is the famous screen flickering - which can be solved by locking/unlocking the screen once.
Now I want to buy a new phone and sell my moto G. I'm wondering how I could get rid of the screen flickering. People will think that the moto G is somewhat damaged and will not buy. Will the screen flickering be gone if I downgrade to stock 4.4.4 again? Or do I have to wait for kernel fix?
Best regards
Martin
Kernel source is out. I personally haven't used it yet but I'm thinking that should solve it.
Ok
Could I just flash that kernel on my phone then? Where can I find it? Thanks for your help, I'm new to this
If an OTA update to 5.0 is available for your phone, flash back to stock and take the OTA update.
audit13 said:
If an OTA update to 5.0 is available for your phone, flash back to stock and take the OTA update.
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Hmm, the OTA will come. Dunno when.
Lets say I do as you suggest, will I get the OTA even if I don't have exactly the same stock image as when i bought the phone? Cause I can only find this (i'm from Sweden):
XT1032_RETAIL-EU_4.4.4_KXB21.14-L1.4…d7_CFC_1FF.xml.zip
You think that would give me the OTA Lollipop when it comes?
Best regards and thanks a ton for your help
I'm not sure, but if it isn't available through OTA, maybe you can find a stock image later.
I flashed my Telus xt1032 back to stock 4.4.4 and it keeps saying my software is up to date, but I know it isn't. It may take time for the Lollipop update to happen.
This is an xpost from where i posted originally (Moto G - 2014) since I was in the wrong forum. Please forgive.
I'm running 4.4.4 stock on an XT 1040 (the LTE Canadian Rogers variant of the MotoG). I had unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone, but other than that kept the stock image. About 2 weeks ago my wife, with the same model, was offered 5.0.1 (or some version of Lollipop) OTA. She upgraded no probs (other than hanging a long time on the download screen). About 3 days later I was offered OTA on my rooted MotoG. After running through the download, it rebooted and tried applying the update and got mid way through and rebooted back to 4.4.4 saying there was an error. I tried again, same problem. So I started reading posts and realized that while my image was stock, because of the way I must have gained root the OTA update wouldn't apply because the kernel must be altered.
So, I followed the instructions here (linky) to go back to the stock image, but now it's been about a week and I have not been offered the OTA again. A couple days ago I talked with Motorola about whether OTA is re-offered in situations like mine if its offered once and the guy said no and to call Google to get them to re-initiate it. I'm not really positive I trust that answer since he seemed kind of, well, "level1tech" and seemed anxious to get off the line.
Anybody know if the OTA is tied to your IMEI or google accounts and whether it's likely it will be offered again?
TIA
I've been on mm 6.0 and back to 5.1 .
I restored a twrp 5.1 recovery directly back from 6.0 using twrp . My boot loader
Is unlocked and I've used my own rooting
Method and flashifyed my twrp on both lp and mm. Since i'm on 5.1j with my bootloader still unlocked indicated on my
Splash screen can i safely flash the skinny rom on my metro g stylo with out a boot loop or a soft brick
Why did you go back to 5.1 if you wanted to flash the Skinny ROM?
I am going to try this Skinny debloated ROM soon. I have rooted T-Mobile Marshmallow on my MetroPCS Stylo and am missing some features that didn't flash correctly on my T-Mobile marshmallow.
I am always building stuff. I was working on a complete one click unlock Bl, Root and twrp and then another mm Rom build or two.
I always go back to my own builds cause I personalize them just for me but ran across the skinny while surfing and it caught my attention. I've been around for years and been doing this as a hobby since i retired and keeping myself busy.
viperdink said:
I am always building stuff. I was working on a complete one click unlock Bl, Root and twrp and then another mm Rom build or two.
I always go back to my own builds cause I personalize them just for me but ran across the skinny while surfing and it caught my attention. I've been around for years and been doing this as a hobby since i retired and keeping myself busy.
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Makes sense now.
Let me know how it goes when you (if) flash that Skinny debloated MM ROM.
I am curious if it works and if all the features like advanced text msgng and video calling and all the MM stuff is on it.
This rom works great so far. With the metro update and this it shouldn't take much to get both versons 6.0 mm. Sure would get custom roms going.
Thanks for your enlightenment.
Skinny Rom works great. The new MS63120B_00_0429.KDZ IS OUT. My Metropcs version phone can be set back to stock and I was wondering If using the new LG UP flasher will care that My Bootloader is UnLocked. I don"t know if it will Interfer and check its status.
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Skinny Rom works great. The new MS63120B_00_0429.KDZ IS OUT. My Metropcs version phone can be set back to stock and I was wondering If using the new LG UP flasher will care that My Bootloader is UnLocked. I don"t know if it will Interfer and check its status.
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thats a good question...i sure hope it doesnt matter to that tool that the bootloader is unlocked...if for some reason it did, maybe you could use lg flash tool 2014 and flash the lollipop kdz?
I went from t--mo mm to metro Loli..to get the metro mm...
I noticed that the bootloader was still unlocked after the Loli flash and kinda got concerned...
But, it never caused any probs...updated to mm metro and rooted smoothly....
I was kinda wondering if i could just wipe and flash skinny without extra caution and precautions...and then if i thought it was ( in my own opinion I'm entitled to) kinda not what i want..flash my mm metro back up...
Doesn't seem like it's been done..i could be wrong..
The drive to dev for this phone isn't as strong as i was hoping...
But, being the first android I've kept vanilla rooted with few tricks...it's not disappointing.
@Cyconumnum
Does the splashscreen still show
" unlocked bootloader "
And did you take the ota or
Flashed metro mm with lg up or the 2014 tool
I don't know what was debloated. The "Skinny" ROM itself is fine but what was taken out?
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@Cyconumnum
Does the splashscreen still show
" unlocked bootloader "
And did you take the ota or
Flashed metro mm with lg up or the 2014 tool
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I used the flash tool to flash metro lollipop..
After that I went into fastboot to unlock the bootloader ...and it reported to be already unlocked...
It still showed "bootloader unlocked" at the top of the LG splash on the initial metro lollipop boot...
And reported it again booting the metro mm update
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Sorry..the LG flash tool
I'm back on my personal juicy lp. I gotta get some new fast sd cards. I am working on another twrp for a friend in my spare time and have to hold up on roms and the total one click project. I would like to do the kdz 6.0 but i need parts .
Update; Found 16gb class 10 and worked skinny Rom, metro ota, and lg up flash tool. They both, metro ota and Lg Flash Kdz never showed skinny rom id'd. It said unknown device firmware. So bye bye skinny Rom. They both left the bootloader unlocked when finished flashing metro updates. As i stated before adb pkg and SuperSu needed updating and reinstalling for root and recovery was required. Splash screen still indicated an unlocked bootloader and loading the kdz from 5.0 kept data partition and required all out of date apps to be updated. Namely goggle playservices, adaway 311 needed (thanks guys) and xposed modules i uninstalled till I get time. Advance messageing was an Lg update not inclued in metro updates. Plenty of bloatware to lighten the load but still seemed less than skinnys bloatware. Good to be back on metro software and all the advance messaging and video calls worked. Now i DO gotta get more new sd's. Really out of parts to work with . Going to best buy to hold me over..
CHEERS ALL hope it helps you guys.
Edit; Forgot to add "Quickboot.apk" works 100% take you into all available modes.
i'm actually really content with it being on a stock rooted with various mods.....wish i could get the soft buttons to theme..that's nothing bad thou lol..
MM is a nice environment ..i wish i could install themes from cm13 .....but, as much i do ..i'm not gonna brick my phone with themes...did it before just changing the font on my F6...ha
but, it's great....makes enough sense....
my guess about the bootloader not getting changed with the ROM would be a bios type thing...i'm not toooo android savy..
Cyconumnum said:
i'm actually really content with it being on a stock rooted with various mods.....wish i could get the soft buttons to theme..that's nothing bad thou lol..
MM is a nice environment ..i wish i could install themes from cm13 .....but, as much i do ..i'm not gonna brick my phone with themes...did it before just changing the font on my F6...ha
but, it's great....makes enough sense....
my guess about the bootloader not getting changed with the ROM would be a bios type thing...i'm not toooo android savy..
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I like the Stock ROM. There are several options for themes.
Layers in the Play Store
G4 Tweaksbox (requires root)
LG Apps Theme Engine (requires root)
LG SmartWorld (no root required but only available on Marshmallow T-Mobile Stylo ROM)