I am seriously considering jumping ship from my Craptivate to the Insipre. The main thing holding me back to the screen. I realize it will be somewhat of a downgrade from the Captivate's, but my question is how much so? For those that just made the switch, are you already missing the Captivate's gorgeous screen? Or is the difference not that bad? I'm just scared that I'll miss the dark blacks and vibrant colors to much and maybe regret it.
I'm also curious as to the ease of messing with different ROMs/kernals and such. I've had the Captivate since launch day, but it was my first Android phone. I came from iOS, which I was very familiar with 'messing with'. Anyways, I learned the ins-and-outs of the Captivate and Android in general soon after I got it, and I probably flashed new ROMs over a hundred or so times over the last 7 months. I know my way around the Captivate very, very well now, and am wondering how much of that knowledge will translate to this as I am already running across unfamiliar terms on this forum like gold cards and such. I am already noticing a few Captivate developers jumping ship, which is helping to sway me to the HTC side. I am still missing my GPS way to much, and am tired of keeping my old 3gs (not activated) in my car to make sure I had access to a reliable GPS when needed, which I would tether to my Captivate to use.
You should go into the store and see the phone for yourself. I have both phones and I think the screen is as good or better then the captivate.
milleirish said:
You should go into the store and see the phone for yourself. I have both phones and I think the screen is as good or better then the captivate.
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That's what I wanted to hear, thanks. I do live pretty much next door to an AT&T store, so I guess I'll go check it out in a second. I just wanted to hear from people that already have some real-world use with the Inspires and Captivates, versus a 5 minute try-out I'd have at the store. Thanks for your reply, appreciated.
Lets face it the Craptivates screen is nice but the phone is a true to life FAIL.
You will not miss your phone once you have a fast/stable phone that has the only drawback of a not so loud speaker (this will be fixed down the line, some using a custom rom already see improvements in sound)
We already have root, custom kernels and roms.
Its only day 4 and the xda community have accomplished so much, and trust me this is just the tip of the iceberg.
legend221 said:
Lets face it the Craptivates screen is nice but the phone is a true to life FAIL.
You will not miss your phone once you have a fast/stable phone that has the only drawback of a not so loud speaker (this will be fixed down the line, some using a custom rom already see improvements in sound)
We already have root, custom kernels and roms.
Its only day 4 and the xda community have accomplished so much, and trust me this is just the tip of the iceberg.
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Man, I'm going to be talked into this within the hour! I'm trying to get my wife to switch as well, as she still has a 3gs. She wants a new phone (reason she never jumped to an ip4), but keeps saying she's waiting until something that jumps out is released. Also, the problems that she knows I've been having with my Captivate is not helping matters on the Android front, although I try explaining that most are isolated to the Captivate and the fact that I'm running basically beta ROMs just to get the newer Froyo. She's not took shabby technology wise either, as she is able to do quite a lot with her iphone like jailbreaking, ssh'in into it, and all kinds of other tweaks available with jailbroken iphones. I think she'd much rather Android, because she's really into messing with the UI and such to get it more to her liking.
Thanks for the advice.
Also thatclaw, the GPS on the Inspire is fast as hell. On Valentines day I need to get to the place where we here having dinner. Started Maps, hit my location and within a second, boom there I was and it was right on spot.
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Man, I'm going to be talked into this within the hour! I'm trying to get my wife to switch as well, as she still has a 3gs. She wants a new phone (reason she never jumped to an ip4), but keeps saying she's waiting until something that jumps out is released. Also, the problems that she knows I've been having with my Captivate is not helping matters on the Android front, although I try explaining that most are isolated to the Captivate and the fact that I'm running basically beta ROMs just to get the newer Froyo. She's not took shabby technology wise either, as she is able to do quite a lot with her iphone like jailbreaking, ssh'in into it, and all kinds of other tweaks available with jailbroken iphones. I think she'd much rather Android, because she's really into messing with the UI and such to get it more to her liking.
Thanks for the advice.
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You're welcome, heres a bit more to contemplate.
I have to admit the one other drawback, the 1250 mAh battery.
If you are not 24-7 texting or playing with the phone it should be fine and last you an entire day like it does with me with ONE daily charge unless Im using the phone like crazy.
Then again that's why CHARGERS and USB cables were invented, I have them in 3 or 4 select locations so I'm never out of juice.
In the 4 days Ive had it Ive noticed the battery is getting better and better with the battery charges.
If on the other hand your wife is always on the phone as well perhaps a phone with a bigger battery would serve her better. , ack Im going to say it the Atrix or maybe something a few months ahead.
Im more than happy with my Inspire though, Dual Cores be damned.
The only problem with the Inspire's screen is you can see the touchscreen grid under certain angles.
Kinda annoying, but not too bad.
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The only problem with the Inspire's screen is you can see the touchscreen grid under certain angles.
Kinda annoying, but not too bad.
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It is strange to be able to see it but I.think it looks cool. Haha.
Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G using XDA app
Anthonok said:
It is strange to be able to see it but I.think it looks cool. Haha.
Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G using XDA app
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legend221 said:
You're welcome, heres a bit more to contemplate.
I have to admit the one other drawback, the 1250 mAh battery.
If you are not 24-7 texting or playing with the phone it should be fine and last you an entire day like it does with me with ONE daily charge unless Im using the phone like crazy.
Then again that's why CHARGERS and USB cables were invented, I have them in 3 or 4 select locations so I'm never out of juice.
In the 4 days Ive had it Ive noticed the battery is getting better and better with the battery charges.
If on the other hand your wife is always on the phone as well perhaps a phone with a bigger battery would serve her better. , ack Im going to say it the Atrix or maybe something a few months ahead.
Im more than happy with my Inspire though, Dual Cores be damned.
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While battery life is important, we are both fine as long as its decent. We both commute to work (charge in car) and both usually keep a charger at work. So going a full day is not a necessity nor expected, especially for me because use my phone very heavily during the day. >1.5 hours of talk time, and usually >2.5 hours of screen time before 5pm. I always plug in my phone while at my desk. The only time I need it to last is when I'm out and about, at bars and such, which I don't really use heavily then. I just want something reliable, of good quality, snappy, and a freaking working GPS. I live in the city (NOLA) and am always on the go throughout the day to places I've never been to meet up with clients, etc. A working GPS is very important, and I'm tired of not having that over the last 7 months.
How easy is it to swap ROMs and such as compared to the Captivate? Although I have nothing to compare the Captivates processes to, I find it very easy and pain free for the most part on it. As a matter of fact, probably half the time I flash is while on the road and in traffic (no lectures please, I'm careful mostly wait till redlights to do things). I'm scared I'll be starting from scratch again, and will have to re-learn everything. I'm not the one to post questions about rooting/flashing/etc. that can easily be found with a little effort, when I know I can find everything I need by just reading up and searching. Although I know people on here are usually glad to help, I'm not the one that needs someone to hold my hand as I know the information can be found on my own, and I find I learn better this way. I'm just worried that the Inspire won't be that simple, because I'm running across too many unfamiliar terms already. BTW, my self-suffiency is evidenced by my post count, and I've been coming here and for knowledge and know-how since I got the Captivate in July. I'd like to keep it this way, but just am worried it won't be the same for some reason.
Also, a big thanks to everyone who chimed in already so quickly, its much appreciated and makes me want to be more involved with this great community, and not just be a lurker coming here daily (multiple times) only to read up, check for updates, grabs tools, etc.
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While battery life is important, we are both fine as long as its decent. We both commute to work (charge in car) and both usually keep a charger at work. So going a full day is not a necessity nor expected, especially for me because use my phone very heavily during the day. >1.5 hours of talk time, and usually >2.5 hours of screen time before 5pm. I always plug in my phone while at my desk. The only time I need it to last is when I'm out and about, at bars and such, which I don't really use heavily then. I just want something reliable, of good quality, snappy, and a freaking working GPS. I live in the city (NOLA) and am always go the go throughout the day to places I've never been to meet up with clients and such. A working GPS is very important, and I'm tired of not having that over the last 7 months.
How easy is it to swap ROMs and such as compared to the Captivate? Although I have nothing to compare the Captivates processes to, I find it very easy and paid free for the most part on it. As a matter of fact, probably half the time I flash is while on the road and in traffic (no lectures please, I'm careful mostly wait till redlights to do it). I'm scared I'll be starting from scratch again, and have to re-learn everything. I'm not the one to post questions and such about rooting/flashing/etc., when I know I can find everything I need by just reading. Although I know people on here are usually glad to help, I'm not the one that needs someone to hold my hand as I know the information can be found on my own. I'm just worried that the Inspire won't be that simple, because I'm running across too many unfamiliar terms already. BTW, my self-suffiency is evidenced by my post count, and I've been coming here and for knowledge and know-how since I got the Captivate in July. I'd like to keep it this way, but just am worried it won't be the same for some reason.
Also, a big thanks to everyone who chimed in already so quickly, its much appreciated and makes me want to be more involved with this great community, and not just be a lurker coming here only to read up and grabs tools and such.
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No you must flash Roms while driving if not you are Un-American, hahaha.
Yeah I understand youre so used to the Craptivates way of doing things.
I would say go here and see for yourself what steps there are
---->> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
Also the other threads on the Development section.
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No you must flash Roms while driving if not you are Un-American, hahaha.
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What if I told you that I was a commercial pilot, and the 'red lights' I spoke of do not really exist?
Just joking, but knowing me, I probably would. Guess that's why I'm NOT a pilot.
Ive had a captivate since august, picked up a inspire last night.
Stock for stock the inspire is worlds better, but the captivate @ 1.4ghz with voodoo color and a good rom is proving hard to leave behind. The captivate has such little available memory once everything is loaded up compared to the inspire, Ill give it a good week before I decide.
I am personally preferring the Inspire screen so far. I like the more muted look, but not washed out like say, the 3GS.
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Ive had a captivate since august, picked up a inspire last night.
Stock for stock the inspire is worlds better, but the captivate @ 1.4ghz with voodoo color and a good rom is proving hard to leave behind. The captivate has such little available memory once everything is loaded up compared to the inspire, Ill give it a good week before I decide.
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If you're having a tough time deciding between an insanely tricked out Captivate and a completely stock Inspire, imagine what the Inspire will be like in a couple months when the dev community blossoms.
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If you're having a tough time deciding between an insanely tricked out Captivate and a completely stock Inspire, imagine what the Inspire will be like in a couple months when the dev community blossoms.
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absolutely, Its always fun to get in on the ground floor with a new phone and follow all the development excitement.
I've had it for about a year now, and I love it.
Anyone else? Seems like a lot of people complaining about it.
GPS works fine for me.
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I've had it for about a year now, and I love it.
Anyone else? Seems like a lot of people complaining about it.
GPS works fine for me.
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I love mine. Mostly for the fact that I can customize it to how I specifically want it. And it seems that every piece of it IS customizable.
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I love mine. Mostly for the fact that I can customize it to how I specifically want it. And it seems that every piece of it IS customizable.
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Exactly why i love it. Plus the dev community is alive and kicking.
Never had any major issues i wasn't able to resolve.
I laugh when I see an iphone now.
Love mine. First phone in a long time that I actually feel I will have all the way until my next upgrade.
Other than the fact that GPS sucks, I love mine.
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Love mine. First phone in a long time that I actually feel I will have all the way until my next upgrade.
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aint that the dam truth
Very fond of mine as well.
Never lags behind any of my friend's phones, GPS is acceptable (though not excellent), screen is absolutely superb, and battery life since upgrading to Gingerbread has been wonderful.
Custom ROM and Kernel are a must however.
Not many 1 year old phones on the market that can still run with the front of the pack...
Had mine since day one. For the first time I can remember in the years I've been on att I am not counting days til early upgrade. I actually passed the upgrade date this week (I had an Aria and traded for captivate in the 30 days).
Now I can patiently wait for the SGS II with a year old phone I still love.
Sent from my Captivate running Continuum 5.6
My cappy ****S on all my other friends phones except for my buddy who also has one and lets me customize it for him!! The development for I897 just keeps growing and I love it.
I love both of mine...
Love mine, shame I'll be moving to sprint soon.
I'm still a big fan. Love is a little too strong a word. If the GPS was perfect it'd be the perfect phone. I still get remarks about how amazing the screen looks.
Missed out on being truly great because it is missing an LED notification light and a flash with the camera.
With those two features it would be unbeatable.
PS. My GPS locks in seconds with the newest Continuum.
Yep. First Android device I got. Love it.
Build quality especially.
Helped a friend to update his i9000 to ginger. Can't help noticing how solid the Cappy is.
Sent from my Captivate. Andromeda3, Onix 2.0.5, Matted Blues.
I agree that the one and only thing I'm jealous of the other phones is the Flash for the camera.
I've never had an issue with GPS though, oddly.
I can't think of any other faults though... I also hate the slider for the usb plug. I almost feel like taking the phone apart just to remove that piece. Anyone ever done that?
GPS works for general vicinity.....unfortunately its response time is atrocious.
I've been in downtown Atlanta attempting to locate "Cheetah Club" (not difficult to route to).....while you're on the Interstate, you will get repeated "Do a U-Turn" because you will pass your exit before the GPS ever updates. DOWNTOWN ATLANTA (it isn't like this isn't a technological hub). Our party had to resort to a Blackberry Curve (triangulation) GPS to get us there.
I've been in the Marigny in New Orleans (off Frenchmen) trying to find my car on Touro and Royal (this is actually a unique intersection)......taking 40 minutes of walking around near midnight from St.Claude to Chartres to locate one specific spot (routing GPS) before giving up and just trying to just figure it out on my own (without the phone's GPS).
**and yes, this is with ALL THE GPS 'fixes' enabled.
The GPS works adequately if you're trying to route you to a large destination (city to city), but you're up the creek for inner city navigation.
This phone is a pile of **** and an afront to consumers. Out-of-the-box, you're screwed. With rooting and several improvement modifications, the phone is possibly serviceable. This device is FAR FROM being an acceptable product, let alone an ideal (love) device.
^Trade it in and why did you buy it^
definitely love. Once rooted and customized i still think its one of the top 3 out there and still the best att option.
Be hard to go back to another screen.
Run alot and do martial arts so i take a lot of soaking baths to recover......not only has it worked great as an mp3 player for runs i have recently been using it at home on wifi + netflix to catch up on TV shows while soaking. The picture quality for watching TV/movies is unparalleled when it comes to other smartphones.
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^Trade it in and why did you buy it^
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can't handle the truth?
* bought it because - not many decent Androids to purchase w/ ATT back in Nov '10 and unrealistic reviews posted on forums like these from delusional fans
* I'll upgrade (after purchasing the phone in Dec '10) soon enough.
* if the device requires a great deal of modifications to make it operational -then it isn't a good device.
The AMOLED screen is great. the Camera isn't bad (the fact that it doesn't have a flash actually is nice). The audio/speaker/headphone output sucks balls even with VooDoo overrides, though
first phone i love
ive had the: tmobile dash; tmobile mda 2; blackberry 7105t; tmobile g1; iphone 3g; blackberry 8820; nokia surge; and a few others i cant remember. this is the first phone ive had for this long. got it the first day it was out last july. my upgrade is in a few weeks but theres nothing out there that i would upgrade to at this point. when the galaxy s2 comes out then this will be used for developement. ive sold every other phone ive had but i wont sell this one this is my baby. im new to the flashing and all but im enjoying all that you can learn to do with this phone. btw my gps works great; im a truck driver and used to drive cross country and after i crushed one of my captivates by running it over with a truck the replacement is excellent.
This is kinda random and weird but I don't care.
I was about to smash my phone (the sidekick, of course) into a wall multiple times before throwing it off the top of the empire state building and burning the pieces I could find, and then blowing up samsung for being annoying to no end.
I just wanted to say thanks to all the people who have been working hard at Sidekick 4G development. I didn't end up doing the above because a)I wouldn't have a phone after that, and b)If I don't have enough money to pay for a lawyer after the last part, then I most definitely don't have enough money to pay for a new phone. So I just said "oh well, gotta make the best of it". Obviously that's way easier said than done, but with the help of you guys my phone coolness rate (and patients) went from -50 to about 5,000,000,000,000,000,000.
I'm not sure if I can tag people or whatever in a thread, but whoever is a part of the dev in any way, thank you very much. If I won the lottery, I would give you guys half the money. I would probably also buy a new phone, but that's besides the point. It sounds like this phone is frustrating at (a lot) of times, to say the least, but you guys keep working and it is highly appreciated. Without you I would have no phone, and would probably be in jail for the rest of my life.
Thank you again!!!
P.S. Some things in this thread were a little bit dramatized. Although I am almost sure a lot of you have had the same disturbing thoughts, I just wanna say that I am in no way responsible if anyone gets any ideas and goes crazy blowing crap up.
Thanks for reading. Remember to vote up there.
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Well, it has come time to finally say good by to my beloved V20. I must say, there have been a lot of up's and down's with this phone. First when I bought the phone, I went into the purchase not knowing if we would ever get root, much less a custom ROM. I feel very greatful for @x86cpu for keeping us up to date and relevant with Leneage, @Omar-Avelar for the beautifully smooth kernel, @me2151 for bringing us root during Christmas via Dirty Santa while my little one was in the hospital post-op heart surgery. I'm sad to say goodbye to the V20 scene, but my poor phone has gone through enough, it has been dropped, stepped on, thrown by little one's hands, took a 40 foot falls from a roller-coaster, and just abused about as much as a phone can. Yes, I have rebuilt the phone multiple times, but it has finally take it last breath and the CPU has just about had it with all the pubg mobile it can take. I say farewell to those that are still on this endeavor and hope to see you in another forum.
Thank you all,
cmdmoto