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Turbo charger

Trying to understand the limitation of the turbo charger. I understand it can only do a small subset of the battery in "turbo" mode so it doesn't overpower the battery - fine, makes sense. But does this mean it has to be from 1-30% for example or do I get turbo benefit if I had to plug in to top off from 50-80% for example?

I'm 99% sure it only works in the 0-80% range or so. With most chargers, charging slows for the last 5 to 10% to prevent long-term damage. Slow-charging a Li battery will result in better longevity. There is a good chance it will work in the 50 to 80 range, but certainly not the 80 to 100 range.

Does anyone have the turbo charger and stock charger and can offer some stats on charge times, etc.?

km8j said:
Does anyone have the turbo charger and stock charger and can offer some stats on charge times, etc.?
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Turbo charger is on preorder right now. Mine says it ships Oct 14. I would imagine its just a boost anywhere around 2.5 - 5.0 volts. The plug that came with my Moto X is a dual plug that is 5.0v so 2.5v per plug I suppose.

Is it only supposed to be used on certain occasions? Meaning we should not use it as our daily charger?

Weddings and Bar Mitzvahs....:fingers-crossed:

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Weddings and Bar Mitzvahs....:fingers-crossed:
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This actually made me laugh out loud. Thank you sir.

I have and use religiously the charger that came with my Blackberry Playbook Tablet awhile back and i bet that it is the same output as the turbo charger. My original X (new custom comes tomorrow) will charge about 40% in 12-15 min. It fly's and my wife loves it too. All my friend and family love using it when they come over.

So it is not the same as the PB charger. Its a QC2.0 charger with 4.5Amp. Your PB charger is no more than 2.1Amp. Most certainly a nice pump incharging but many do that today. Its smart enough not to cook the phone so it should be just fine for daily use. My order still says it will ship on 9/23. Big fail there Moto!

From what I've read, the turbo charger uses Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 which allows the charger to talk to your phone and utilize the full power of the charger, up to 60W if available. It only works with Snapdragon 800 processors. A regular tablet charger will supply 10-15W of power. I couldn't find anything on what levels the battery has to be at for the quick charge to happen, but I think I remember hearing it charges at full capacity up to 67%. I may be wrong on that though.
My question is if Motorola is going to release a car turbo charger. I would rather be able to charge up my phone as I'm driving to go out. Qualcomm lists a few different chargers that use the quick charge 2.0, but none of them are available yet.

xious1 said:
From what I've read, the turbo charger uses Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 which allows the charger to talk to your phone and utilize the full power of the charger, up to 60W if available. It only works with Snapdragon 800 processors. A regular tablet charger will supply 10-15W of power. I couldn't find anything on what levels the battery has to be at for the quick charge to happen, but I think I remember hearing it charges at full capacity up to 67%. I may be wrong on that though.
My question is if Motorola is going to release a car turbo charger. I would rather be able to charge up my phone as I'm driving to go out. Qualcomm lists a few different chargers that use the quick charge 2.0, but none of them are available yet.
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There's a 3rd party car charger on Amazon now that claims to do Quick Charge 2.0, but the price is pretty steep. No reviews yet.
http://www.amazon.com/Incipio-Qualcomm-Quick-Charge-Chargers/dp/B00NDEMAJO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412285583&sr=8-1&keywords=qualcomm+quick+charge+2+0

jasoraso said:
There's a 3rd party car charger on Amazon now that claims to do Quick Charge 2.0, but the price is pretty steep. No reviews yet.
http://www.amazon.com/Incipio-Qualcomm-Quick-Charge-Chargers/dp/B00NDEMAJO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412285583&sr=8-1&keywords=qualcomm+quick+charge+2+0
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Yea car only :-/

There's a list of certified chargers on Motorola's site. https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2014/06/04/quick-charge-20-has-arrived

zoid_99 said:
There's a list of certified chargers on Motorola's site. https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2014/06/04/quick-charge-20-has-arrived
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That was the list I referred to, however none of them are available yet, but many of us already have our phone. How could the phone be ready but the chargers are not? Baffling.

Anyone got the turbo Charger yet? And is that incipio one even certified by Qualcomm?
Cheers

Badelhas said:
Anyone got the turbo Charger yet? And is that incipio one even certified by Qualcomm?
Cheers
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Mine still shows as not shipped. As far as the Incipio car charge, Qualcomm lists an Incipio charger, but it is one of the only ones that does not have a link. I'm guessing it's certified though.
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xious1 said:
From what I've read, the turbo charger uses Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 which allows the charger to talk to your phone and utilize the full power of the charger, up to 60W if available. It only works with Snapdragon 800 processors. A regular tablet charger will supply 10-15W of power. I couldn't find anything on what levels the battery has to be at for the quick charge to happen, but I think I remember hearing it charges at full capacity up to 67%. I may be wrong on that though.
My question is if Motorola is going to release a car turbo charger. I would rather be able to charge up my phone as I'm driving to go out. Qualcomm lists a few different chargers that use the quick charge 2.0, but none of them are available yet.
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Grab a power inverter from Lowe's or Home Depot or any auto parts store. Then just plug your turbo charger into the inverter!

borxnx said:
Grab a power inverter from Lowe's or Home Depot or any auto parts store. Then just plug your turbo charger into the inverter!
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I have an inverter, but that is a piecemeal way of doing it. Plus inverters are not small and sleek like many car chargers. Hopefully it will just take a couple weeks for products to start hitting the market.

Are any of the car chargers with turbo charging ability, dual USB ports? I have to use dual port to power My ad2p gateway.
If they are all 1 USB port I won't be able to try it. I'm more interested in turbocharging on the go than at home.

The only one that I've seen is the Incipio car charger. On Amazon, it says it's a dual port, but the pictures only show one port so I'm not sure. I'm guessing the pictures are not correct.

[Q] Qualcomm QuickCharge - is it supported?

I have researched this quite a bit and can't figure out:
1) Does the AT&T LG G2 support Qualcomm's QuickCharge?
2) If so, what type of charger do you need to have? I heard it was a 2.1v charger/plug.
3) If so, is it QuickCharge 1.0 or 2.0? I imagine 1.0 since the new Moto X was just released with 2.0…
It'd be nice to have an official answer and an explanation as to how you know the answer!

Does no one know?

i have read on qualocom's site that all snapdragon 800 are supported, but some people noted that it might be disabled in software, those chargers are brand new and i am sure someone will test one out with a g2 soon

I use a standard 5.0V, 1.2A wall charger and my G2 charges from dead to full in less than an hour. But I'm sure some people want this feature so they can charge their batteries in under 10 minutes. But if you're using that much battery why not just have a second battery? You're not always gonna be somewhere where you can charge your battery. Even quickly.

I've never heard of under 10 minute charges, but I have heard of 75% in 15 minutes with QuickCharge 2.0. Also, unless you have the Korean version of the G2, it doesn't have a replaceable battery, so a fast charger is the way to go for that.

Is it QuickCharge 3.0

Hello,
I just bought Anker PowerDrive+ 2 and it does show as quick charging and the max current shown by Ampere is 1.5 A.
Shouldn't it be more?
It charges at the same maximum rate as the stock charger UCH20, which is not QuickCharge 3.0 compatible.
Has anyone tested a QuickCharge 3.0 charger to confirm it works ok?
Thanks

Mmm I'm not an expert on this stuff but I get more from the charger that came in the box...

ducksonetime said:
Mmm I'm not an expert on this stuff but I get more from the charger that came in the box...
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That is indeed dubious. It even states 1500 mA max USB current.
What model of charger did you have in the box?
Maybe it is something related to the buid version... Mine is 39.0.A.1.250
And it is maxed at 1590 mA
But my impression is that QuickCharge 3.0 should be at least 2-3 Amps

asterixmic said:
That is indeed dubious. It even states 1500 mA max USB current.
What model of charger did you have in the box?
Maybe it is something related to the buid version... Mine is 39.0.A.1.250
And it is maxed at 1590 mA
But my impression is that QuickCharge 3.0 should be at least 2-3 Amps
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I never looked at it till now, but this is the charger that came with my phone.

ducksonetime said:
I never looked at it till now, but this is the charger that came with my phone.
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lucky!!!
In UK we got a slow 1.5 amp rated charger! Connected to any of my batteries or chargers i get 1.5 A max. I think it uses the mediatek pump 2.0 protocol primarily, so i've had to fork out another £30 for UCH12W (still waiting for stock to arrive for UK pins)

transcendent12 said:
lucky!!!
In UK we got a slow 1.5 amp rated charger! Connected to any of my batteries or chargers i get 1.5 A max. I think it uses the mediatek pump 2.0 protocol primarily, so i've had to fork out another £30 for UCH12W (still waiting for stock to arrive for UK pins)
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Oh sweet. I bought it on eBay from Hong Kong.
I live in Australia, I'm not sure what the local phones come with. I didn't pay too much attention but I don't think mine came with any earphones if that's any consolation. But yeah, loving the 64GB of on-board storage too

ducksonetime said:
Oh sweet. I bought it on eBay from Hong Kong.
I live in Australia, I'm not sure what the local phones come with. I didn't pay too much attention but I don't think mine came with any earphones if that's any consolation. But yeah, loving the 64GB of on-board storage too
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Yes, mine came with the earphones, which I actually really like. Got really used to the sound signature and my old ones which came with my Z1 were falling apart.

In the meantime I got to the bottom of this. There is no current sensor inside the phone, so that current is estimated based on charge readings from the battery.
When I used it today in the car with an Anker Quickcharge 3.0 it jumped 20% in 20 minutes, with screen on and GPS on. So I guess it is quickcharging at 3.0 speed

Does the moto G5 supports the Turbo Power 15W charger?

An answer in Lenovo's support forums says the G5 does not support Turbo Power, but it comes with a 10W rapid charger. The problem that here in Brazil not even this 10w charger gets shlpped with the phone, neither can I find it for sale, so I'm thinking about getting a 15W Turbo Power charger, does anyone knows if it'll charge the G5 (25W and above are reportedly not working with the G5)

It won't work, But you'll get fast charge tho (NOT TurboCharge, which is even faster. Just standart fast charge)

Randonio said:
It won't work, But you'll get fast charge tho (NOT TurboCharge, which is even faster. Just standart fast charge)
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Will fast charge charpe it faster than a 5V-2A charger?

freeZbies said:
Will fast charge charpe it faster than a 5V-2A charger?
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Maybe? I'll test it, and say the results

Randonio said:
Maybe? I'll test it, and say the results
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Ok, if you do it, that'll hilp a lot, since moto G5 came with this standard 2A charges.

I bought my Moto G5 in Brazil near the launch date, it did come with the 10 W charger (5V-2A, W = V x A, do the math). As far as I know, Snapdragon 430 support Quick Charge 3.0. I bought a ROCK charger with Quick Charge 3.0, just waiting for it to arrive from Aliexpress, should work just fine.

Sephirothrx7 said:
I bought my Moto G5 in Brazil near the launch date, it did come with the 10 W charger (5V-2A, W = V x A, do the math). As far as I know, Snapdragon 430 support Quick Charge 3.0. I bought a ROCK charger with Quick Charge 3.0, just waiting for it to arrive from Aliexpress, should work just fine.
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Well, I didn't know that this would result in 10W. Anyways, as far as I know the moto G5 doesn't support Turbo/Quick charge, despite using the Snapdragon 430. I say thay because none of the TurboPower chargers in Motorola's website cites the G5 as supported (only G5+/G5S), in addition, I read many reports in Lenovo's official forum repporting it doesn't support Quick/Turbo Charge, like here: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...g-with-Qualcomm-quick-charge-3-0/td-p/3828209
In other words, a 15W charger is not supposed to provide great advantages over the regular charger that came with it.
Anyways, thanks for showing me a 5v-2a equals 10w, I googled and confirmed it.

freeZbies said:
Well, I didn't know that this would result in 10W. Anyways, as far as I know the moto G5 doesn't support Turbo/Quick charge, despite using the Snapdragon 430. I say thay because none of the TurboPower chargers in Motorola's website cites the G5 as supported (only G5+/G5S), in addition, I read many reports in Lenovo's official forum repporting it doesn't support Quick/Turbo Charge, like here: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...g-with-Qualcomm-quick-charge-3-0/td-p/3828209
In other words, a 15W charger is not supposed to provide great advantages over the regular charger that came with it.
Anyways, thanks for showing me a 5v-2a equals 10w, I googled and confirmed it.
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You are welcome.
To be honest I have been using the Quick Charger but can confirm if it's working or not. I usually just plug the phone before going to sleep, when I wake up it's already 100% . I will search if there's anything available to detect if it's using the quick charge or not.

Did it work?

I'm using my wife's charger from her G4+ and it seems not boost the charger at all. It takes the same time with my own charger. Normally, batteries got a regulator that protect the battery from being overpowered and, maybe, exploded. So, if it was setted to 2A max it won't work anyway. Also, the official charger detects, through USB interface, if the device support Boosted Charging before sending 3A. If you wanna save your money, my advice is don't buy it.

Moto G5 doesn't support Qualcomm 2.0 or 3.0 which charge at 9V or 12V. My original charger used to charge at 5.2V and up to 1.5A, but it doesn't anymore, now doesn't go over 5.0V. Very difficult to charge when powered on when normal charger only manages about 0.6A . Also have problem with portable battery packs, best option is to connect external battery when full, and it just about stops internal battery falling. Maybe the connector wearing out, have tried different cables....

mstombs said:
Moto G5 doesn't support Qualcomm 2.0 or 3.0 which charge at 9V or 12V. My original charger used to charge at 5.2V and up to 1.5A, but it doesn't anymore, now doesn't go over 5.0V. Very difficult to charge when powered on when normal charger only manages about 0.6A . Also have problem with portable battery packs, best option is to connect external battery when full, and it just about stops internal battery falling. Maybe the connector wearing out, have tried different cables....
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Sometimes it can be as simple as a tiny piece of pocket lint/crud in the USB charging port. You can buy cans of compressed air to blow them out same as used on Camera lens or check with magnifying glass and then a toothpick with care to clean anything found out.
HTH

Blast from past on old phone! The usb port eventually failed completely, fortunately the little board is easy to replace, but the replacement board only lasted a few months. I still have the phone as a spare and charge the removable battery out of the phone.

mstombs said:
Blast from past on old phone! The usb port eventually failed completely, fortunately the little board is easy to replace, but the replacement board only lasted a few months. I still have the phone as a spare and charge the removable battery out of the phone.
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Sorry about that
But glad you still have the phone

What is up with the Turbopower charging?

So the data port on my Moto G3 is failing (loose), so I ordered a replacement part and figured I would keep it as a backup phone and move on to the Moto G6 as my main phone. I need a multi-port wall and car charger as mine are very old (As in single 5V voltage at 1 amp per port max) and figured that would be easy, just pick them up on Amazon.............NOT. I spent an entire day trying to figure out what was compatible with the phone (voltages, currents, wattages, fast charging technology) and as far as I can tell there is nothing out there. This is not just Motorola, as other manufacturers have their own standards. This really needs to be standardized.
I then contacted Anker. I mean come on, they have got to know right?. Here was their reply yesterday:
"But so sorry that the Moto G6 uses the exclusive turbo charge technology, we cannot guarantee 100% that our QC charger (Moto Turbo-charging is a quick charge technology based on QC) could charge the device fastly. "
It is bad enough every time I buy a new phone everything changes and I have to buy new chargers, cases, cables, sim cards, SD cards, etc. I am not saying that is a bad thing, as these technology changes usually mean improvements in speed, usability, reliability, etc. I just don't want to buy all this new stuff and have chargers that won't work with other devices I might buy shortly or be obsolete in months instead of years.
I guess I have to hold off until all of this stabilizes and standardizes. Thanks to Lineage my obsolete Moto G3 (According to Motorola) still runs great and has the latest security updates. My only concern is that the battery will be the next to go.

Every USB C charger I have plugged into my G6 has been compatible with turbopower charging... have used 3, one that came with it, my nexus 5X charger, and a cheap charging dock I got on amazon...

Could someone tell me what the model # and output electrical values are (Volts / Amps / Watts) that are written on the stock charger for the Moto G6. Motorola sells two different wall chargers with different specs. The output values should be specified as V / A/ W for 5V, 9V, and 12V.

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Could someone tell me what the model # and output electrical values are (Volts / Amps / Watts) that are written on the stock charger for the Moto G6. Motorola sells two different wall chargers with different specs. The output values should be specified as V / A/ W for 5V, 9V, and 12V.
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The charger I have for my G6 is either model SC-22 or SPN5993A (it's hard for me to tell next to all of this Chinese writing). The output is either 5V, 9V, or 12V.

Thanks. I was considering getting the on sale Moto G6 64 bit version today as it was only $259, but it is only available in the Indigo color. I will wait until the regular price lowers and the whole charging thing gets resolved. I ordered a part to fix my Moto G3 in the meantime. I also have a Nexus 4 as a backup phone so i am good to go for a while.

I can check tomorrow to be sure, but I think it uses the 5V 3A charging standard. I have a USB meeter that I can plug into the charger at work and see what it does. I don't think it does the 9V or 12V fast charge.

You simply need a QC 2.0 or 3.0 charger. Easy day. Both will turbo charge the Motorola. Ive used dozens of different brands on a few different Motorolas and they all turbo charge.

shawndak said:
You simply need a QC 2.0 or 3.0 charger. Easy day. Both will turbo charge the Motorola. Ive used dozens of different brands on a few different Motorolas and they all turbo charge.
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Thanks. I will get QC 3.0 chargers, unless if and when I decide to buy the phone, QC 4.0+ chargers are released and work with the Moto G6. I am probably going to wait for a non-Amazon 64GB RAM model to be released.

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... I am probably going to wait for a non-Amazon 64GB RAM model to be released.
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Especially if you are interested in unlocking the bootloader.
I too, just recently found that a 4/64 version of the regular G6 is available, but have only found the Amazon Prime version. I contacted Motorola and asked why this version is not available on their web site. So waiting to hear back.
32GB internal storage is just not enough, especially in the case of the X4, with the OS taking up 13GB.

pizza_pablo said:
Especially if you are interested in unlocking the bootloader.
I too, just recently found that a 4/64 version of the regular G6 is available, but have only found the Amazon Prime version. I contacted Motorola and asked why this version is not available on their web site. So waiting to hear back.
32GB internal storage is just not enough, especially in the case of the X4, with the OS taking up 13GB.
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Yes , unlocking the bootloader is the main issue. Also, Lenovo is terrible with OS and security updates, both not timely and eventually not supporting the phone all together, so I would need the capability to install a ROM eventually, like what I did with my Moto G3.

Anker PowerCore+ 26800 with Qualcomm QuickCharge 3.0 (version that includes PowerPort+ 1 wall charger) QC 3.0 port (blue one on the right) charges Moto G6 in TurboPower charging mode, also the charger that comes with it works same way, both charge phone very quickly. Just like charger that came with the phone.
Using Anker USB C 3.0 braided and PVC cables.
I'm guessing any Qualcomm QC 3.0 -type charger will run in TurboPower mode with this phone.

I can't verify quick charge but I can verify that any phone charger supporting power delivery (type c "standard" for charging fast and not proprietary like quick charge) will definitely activate turbocharging.
Edit... After scouring the internet for a few minutes I'd just stick with power delivery chargers as it seems that quick charge chargers (qualcomms proprietary fast charging method) is a mixed bag of results as the G6 doesn't officially support quick charge while if you purchase a power delivery charger it'll just work.

We have the Moto G6, Nexus 6P (Huawei) and Moto Nexus 6 - the OEM Moto charger with the OEM cable obviously enabled the Turbo charging mode, the same charger does fast charging on the Nexus 6P as well as the old Nexus 6. Traded into Google my old Nexus 5X but kept the OEM USB-C fast charger, which works with all these 3 smartphones, I can't recall at the moment whether it's Turbo and/or Fast charging mode, as I left that at home and we are traveling on the road this weekend.
What I've noticed is that, sometimes, it will depend on the specific USB-C cable that I am using and/or possibly using one of the "certified" USB-C adapter plug (with the resistor) and an OEM/quality micro-USB charging cable with all the pins wired correctly.
On the road, I've been using an Anker 4-usb port charger that put out 2.4 amp per port at 5V (up to a max of 7.2 amp ... average of 1.8 amp) and it does charging these 3 devices fast, maybe not "turbo" mode. The speed is more than good and quick enough, won't take overnight hours to bring it up to 100%.
Moto G6 is stock OEM rom whereas N6P and Nexus 6 are custom roms.

the moto g6 play also support turbocharge it just doesnt come with the turbocharger block. i used my cousins block from his z2 force and everytime i connect it the phone says "turbo power connected" the moto g6 play is also not usb-c. the block that came with the phone only does as the phone says "rapidly charging" so yea its kinda weird lol

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the moto g6 play also support turbocharge it just doesnt come with the turbocharger block. i used my cousins block from his z2 force and everytime i connect it the phone says "turbo power connected" the moto g6 play is also not usb-c. the block that came with the phone only does as the phone says "rapidly charging" so yea its kinda weird lol
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Thanks. I'm actually considering grabbing a g6 play as a backup/work phone. I have a g6 with the turbocharger block. I'll probably have to grab a block once I test the g6 play... I bought that phone for my dad and he loves it... unlocked, of course.

It works with standard PD (5V, 9V) charger when I making a reply

Just to reaffirm, it works with a Power Delivery (PD) charger. QC is not the supported charging standard on the G6. So buy a charger that uses the PD standard.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077HFFLMS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MA10GH9/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07214QNQX/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have both these charger blocks and those Anker cables. I don't have exact numbers but I know they charge my G6+ and my girlfriends X4 very fast and my G6+ says Turbo Power when connecting the charger.

Doesn't look like I already commented, but the Moto G6 uses the 5V 3A fast charge method, went to about 2.3A at most, it doesn't go to the 9v. I used a USB C amp meter that also shows voltage and is capable of fast charging. I know this works because it activates the Power delivery for my Chromebook with USB C and goes to 15V.

In general, there's two considerations here.
1.) Turbocharge is a fork of the QuickCharge specification. Anything rated for QuickCharge should work with it to some extent.
2.) the USB signalling is important. since the G6 uses a type C connector and specification, it is not technically always using the same signaling wires as USB 2.0, 3.0 type A (the big flat connector we all know and love)
So, if you're wanting to make sure everything works as it should, and is as broadly compatible as possible, make sure that the charger you are using is rated as at least Quickcharge 3.0, and that the cable you're using is certified for USB 3.1 (or 3.1 gen 2 as it is confusingly called) a lot of the USB-A to USB-c cables you'll find out there are actually usb 3.0 (also called USB 3.1 gen 1, ugh this naming convention), or even USB 2.0, cables with a type C connector slapped on them if you're getting some cheap chinese junk off amazon or ebay. Also remember that USB 3.1 cables are length sensetive, and should not be over 2 meteres (about 6 ft) long unless you are using what is called an 'active cable.' These have microchips in their connectors and are generally more expensive.