[Q] Qualcomm QuickCharge - is it supported? - AT&T LG G2

I have researched this quite a bit and can't figure out:
1) Does the AT&T LG G2 support Qualcomm's QuickCharge?
2) If so, what type of charger do you need to have? I heard it was a 2.1v charger/plug.
3) If so, is it QuickCharge 1.0 or 2.0? I imagine 1.0 since the new Moto X was just released with 2.0…
It'd be nice to have an official answer and an explanation as to how you know the answer!

Does no one know?

i have read on qualocom's site that all snapdragon 800 are supported, but some people noted that it might be disabled in software, those chargers are brand new and i am sure someone will test one out with a g2 soon

I use a standard 5.0V, 1.2A wall charger and my G2 charges from dead to full in less than an hour. But I'm sure some people want this feature so they can charge their batteries in under 10 minutes. But if you're using that much battery why not just have a second battery? You're not always gonna be somewhere where you can charge your battery. Even quickly.

I've never heard of under 10 minute charges, but I have heard of 75% in 15 minutes with QuickCharge 2.0. Also, unless you have the Korean version of the G2, it doesn't have a replaceable battery, so a fast charger is the way to go for that.

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[Q] Best charger for Quick Charge 2.0?

What type of charger would I need to take full advantage of Quick Charge 2.0? & I also read somewhere that it can support even higher than 1.67a chargers? Would that mean it would charge even faster than a 1.67a if I got for instance a 1.97a charger?
Also is there any downsides to using this or benefits I should be aware of before going through with this?
Links to any recommended chargers would be appreciated as I'm very lazy lately LOL (or just a name & site), thanks ahead of time!
Edit: did a LITTLE searching and found this: http://www.amazon.com/PCD-CNR71-Charger-EADP-15ZB-79H00107/dp/B009AXZ2S8 . Will that do the job? & if so is it the best I can get for my phone?
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No, that Amazon charger won't charge much faster than the original charger that came with the phone. I don't believe there are any quick charge 2.0 compatible chargers available yet. HTC said they will release one later this year. The charger has to have specific circuitry to support quick charge 2.0. I use a 2A charger that came with my Galaxy S4, but it does not support quick charge 2.0. You will just have to wait until a supported charger is released.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile...0-promises-75-percent-faster-charging/#!0d7Kp

[Q] is Quick Charge 2.0 enabled in D6653 Lollipop?

I heard somebody here said Lollipop update of Z3 has enabled Quick Charge 2.0 (which is disabled in most of the variants in Kitkat and only active in Japanese version). I want to know whether this is true, because I am about to use a Note 4 charger to boost the charging speed (3 hours of charging time really causes inconvenience to me). Is it possible and does it affect the battery health? Or should I wait the Sony UCH10 http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/05/2...a-z3-plus-10-minute-charge-to-last-5-5-hours/. Thank you very much for your help
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I heard somebody here said Lollipop update of Z3 has enabled Quick Charge 2.0 (which is disabled in most of the variants in Kitkat and only active in Japanese version). I want to know whether this is true, because I am about to use a Note 4 charger to boost the charging speed (3 hours of charging time really causes inconvenience to me). Is it possible and does it affect the battery health? Or should I wait the Sony UCH10 http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/05/2...a-z3-plus-10-minute-charge-to-last-5-5-hours/. Thank you very much for your help
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I am wondering the same. I spoke to UK support on live chat and 2 different people said it is, but it seems they were referring to this http://eshop.sonymobile.com/gb/buy/gb-quick-charger-ep881 as the second agent kept telling me that is the only one i should use. This was after saying it was quick charge 2.0 compatible so i'm just not sure! But i want to buy one off amazon!
KitKat supported QC2.0
Charging current is limited to 1.5A even with a QC2.0 charger though, so you will only see a significant difference:
1) When charging with the screen turned on
2) When using longer USB cables
Normal non-QC2 chargers can hit the limit with the screen turned off and a short USB cable. QC2.0 chargers can hit this limit when running Google Maps Navigation through a much longer/thinner cable.
Do you know why this is? I received my QC 2.0 charger and right enough my charging current maxes out around 1588mA regardless what I'm doing on my phone at the time so that makes sense that it can do more.
Also, why do some sources including Sony claim only the Japanese z3 supports QC 2.0?

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Hi guys. Moto G 2015 has a Snapdragon 410 which support quick charge 2.0 but the smartphone doesn't support that feature. There's any trick to enable it? Thanks
From the official Qualcomm site
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Its an YES.
but it will lower the Battery life if Quickcharging is done .. so better dont do any risks with NON REMOVABLE BATTERY
even though it supports Quickcharge some people say it wont be noticeable ,but some say it charges in lesser time .. but i havent tested any
i am also eager to know the answers of experts :good::highfive: ; hope we get good answers to this post
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Hi guys. Moto G 2015 has a Snapdragon 410 which support quick charge 2.0 but the smartphone doesn't support that feature. There's any trick to enable it? Thanks
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The SoC supports up to QC 2.0, but the charger IC Moto used doesn't.
The max you will get is 800mA.
Cheap Moto could at least used a simple QC 1.0 charger IC compatible up to 1500mA, but no.
You got the cheaper of the cheapest...
So, anything goes?
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The SoC supports up to QC 2.0, but the charger IC Moto used doesn't.
The max you will get is 800mA.
Cheap Moto could at least used a simple QC 1.0 charger IC compatible up to 1500mA, but no.
You got the cheaper of the cheapest...
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I recently purchased this device and it arrived with no charger at all, probably removed because it was garbage? I have two chargers that can be used, one is a now several years old HTC One m7 charger which outputs 1A and has QC 1.0
The other is a Google Chromecast 2nd generation LPS supply with 1A and probably not QC 1.0?
Either way, what I have been hearing is that people either get two or four hours+ of waiting in order for it to be charged up. Since both are above 800 mA (assuming this is the true max current) then I wonder if there could be a difference between these two. If there isn't then of course the newer one is safer to use as it has not got the years of wear the HTC One m7 have done to it, but that would cost me quick charge. Buying new brand USB chargers here with ~2A can cost 30 dollars so want to avoid it
Thanks if you ever make a reply. Going to test this out later when I have time to discharge completely.
EDIT: Assuming the cable they included supports their max charging standard, I hope at least... I know some cables aren't up to specifications but they couldn't have given me a bad cable that's too much.
Ernoz said:
I recently purchased this device and it arrived with no charger at all, probably removed because it was garbage? I have two chargers that can be used, one is a now several years old HTC One m7 charger which outputs 1A and has QC 1.0
The other is a Google Chromecast 2nd generation LPS supply with 1A and probably not QC 1.0?
Either way, what I have been hearing is that people either get two or four hours+ of waiting in order for it to be charged up. Since both are above 800 mA (assuming this is the true max current) then I wonder if there could be a difference between these two. If there isn't then of course the newer one is safer to use as it has not got the years of wear the HTC One m7 have done to it, but that would cost me quick charge. Buying new brand USB chargers here with ~2A can cost 30 dollars so want to avoid it [emoji14]
Thanks if you ever make a reply. Going to test this out later when I have time to discharge completely.
EDIT: Assuming the cable they included supports their max charging standard, I hope at least... I know some cables aren't up to specifications but they couldn't have given me a bad cable that's too much.
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Doesn't matter hoe much your charger can put out, the device chargng IC will only drawb800mA max.
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Doesn't matter hoe much your charger can put out, the device charger IC will only dram 800mA max.
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Ah, I see, so QC 1.0 is just another word for max 800 mA and there is no "chargers" with this feature? Thanks for clarifying.
Old thread I know, but I'd like to share that, depending on cable and charger, my moto G3 charges at almost 1A (970 mah) when its battery is under 60%. Then from 60% on it charges at roughly 700 mah. Moto G3 2015 (X1540), ROM Resurrection remix 5.7.4 (MM 6.0.1), kernel squid r22, charger Asus 2.5 A, cable Asus also.

QuickCharge 3.0, across 6 chargers, is somehow not working on my V20

I picked up a T-Mobile V20 2 days ago. Rooted it the same night, and tested out a few chargers I had laying around to make sure the ones I had, along with cables, worked properly after having most everything not work properly with my Pixel XL.
The stock charger would not charge my phone at more than 3 watts (but I never touched the stock charger until I started noticing the issue).
A Samsung QC charger, with any cable, would not charge my phone more than 9 watts.
An Anker PowerPort+ 1, Type C, QC 3.0 charger, with any cable (to include Anker cables and the Pixel XL OEM cable), will not charge over 12 watts.
Absolutely NONE of my QC 3.0 car chargers register as "fast charging" - these include an iVoler Type C and USB A, Anker USB A, Tronsmart Type C, with various cables. A standard cabled Type C charger from i-Orange does not say "fast charging," but seems to be charging at 5V/3A as it is MUCH faster than all the others.
The ONLY charger that is fast charging my phone is the Pixel XL OEM charger. Measured at the wall, it has peaked at 19.2 watts.
I'm really confused. I don't know if my QC 3.0 has been defective since I got the phone, or if plugging my phone into the USB PD Pixel XL charger somehow screwed things up...
Does anyone have any ideas here?
All my old QC chargers work and I'm currently using the note 7 oem one atm as it does not get as hot (charger not phone) as the LG oem one under load. What does the app ampere say your getting?
It takes a while, try a very low battery and give it 10 minutes or more screen off, must be cool too
I got an existing aukey qc 2.0 fast charging fine while using a Samsung adaptive fast charger also fine, I am waiting for my qc 3.0 aukey one to be arrived possibly tomorrow to see if I could charge faster and lower temperature than my existing ones, I cannot check the watts though
My phone is either defective (not surprising given LG's GARBAGE quality control) or the software has somehow screwed up from root, etc. (highly unlikely as I am the only one with an issue).
With that said, I made an interesting discovery. My phone, using USB Power Delivery, charges much faster than my girlfriend's, using QuickCharge 2.0 or 3.0. I tested this 2 times from 5% battery on both phones. I tested this with a QC 3.0 car charger and the OEM QC 2.0 charger. The difference is substantial... first test was about 40 minutes. My phone was near 80%, hers was at 55%. The 2nd test was only 15 minutes. Mine was near 40%, hers only 27%.
reaverclan said:
All my old QC chargers work and I'm currently using the note 7 oem one atm as it does not get as hot (charger not phone) as the LG oem one under load. What does the app ampere say your getting?
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Don't remember what Ampere says, but it was <500mA. Also, I used a USB current meter. It hovered around 5V/0.5A no matter what charger I used. I don't have a Type C/Power Delivery current meter, so I couldn't test those chargers... but USB PD is CLEARLY working very well on the V20. Much better than QC.
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It takes a while, try a very low battery and give it 10 minutes or more screen off, must be cool too
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It does not take awhile - takes <5 seconds to begin the QuickCharge process. Phone does not need a very low battery - will show fast charging regardless of the %. Does not need to be cool - fast charging is shown when the QC handshake occurs - not based on actual charging current. My girlfriend also has a V20. Every charger I tested with mine (which did not work), successfully QuickCharges hers.
Are you you using 56 k resistor cables?plus being rooted a kernel app would have a section to disable fast charge or enable it. Most devs disables by default. So if using custom kernel something to look in to. As I doubt there is anything wrong with your phone.
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Just got the aukey PA-T15 qc 3.0 seems fast charging fine though I have no time for a 0% to 100% test yet
Dark Jedi said:
Are you you using 56 k resistor cables?plus being rooted a kernel app would have a section to disable fast charge or enable it. Most devs disables by default. So if using custom kernel something to look in to. As I doubt there is anything wrong with your phone.
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All of my cables are good. No custom kernel, and I've never seen a dev disable fast charging by default... that would be very unpopular.
Anyway, it seems that LG's recent phones, to include the G5 and V20, are actually supporting both QC 3.0 and USB PD. This is also probably why QC 3.0 chargers that use Type C do not work (the Anker PowerPort+ 1 in my case). On a C to C connection, with USB PD present, USB PD will take precedence over QC 3.0 (since QC 3.0 is illegal with C to C anyway). But that still doesn't explain why my phone doesn't QC via USB A to C... so I'll chalk it up to LG's garbage quality control.
I'm glad it worked out this way. USB PD charges my phone WAY faster than QC 3.0 charges my girlfriend's V20. So I would suggest you all dump QC 3.0 (because it's non-compliant to anyway) and grab USB PD equipment since it's the way of the future anyway.
I'm starting to think that there's something wrong with the way V20 handles QC 3.0. I'm in a somewhat similar situation with you, tested three different QC 3.0 using almost 10 different A->C cable (including the OEM cable) and none of them would deliver QC 3.0 speed. (I just came in a from Axon 7 and the difference between charging speed is night and day).
Additionally, I wish there's an app to properly identify what's going on during charging.
Using the built-in battery test from Service mode (see screenshot), it always says that I'm on QC 2.0 whenever I'm charging using QC 3.0 chargers.
My unit (LG-H990DS) is charging very quick though.
Using stock charger & cable, charging time is very consistent from 0 to 100%. 95 mins is all it takes.
yluxion said:
My unit (LG-H990DS) is charging very quick though.
Using stock charger & cable, charging time is very consistent from 0 to 100%. 95 mins is all it takes.
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The stock charger that LG sent with the V20 is actually a QC2.0 unit.
and with QC3.0, it'll take you less than an hour to fully charge.
baymon said:
The stock charger that LG sent with the V20 is actually a QC2.0 unit.
and with QC3.0, it'll take you less than an hour to fully charge.
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Original Charger
Aukey QC3.0 Charger
Both results are similar.
So now LG V20 under utilise the Aukey QC3.0?
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Original Charger
Aukey QC3.0 Charger
Both results are similar.
So now LG V20 under utilise the Aukey QC3.0?
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I can't say for sure, because I have no way to get a baseline on how fast a QC 3.0 charger charge at the correct QC3.0 rate on the V20....
At least according to the battery test from the service mode menu, none of my QC3.0 chargers are being recognized as QC3....and it definitely doesn't charge as fast as 3.0 based on my previous experience with axon 7.
on The Axon 7, I can still be playing Mobius FF (which is very battery intensive) and still charging up at about 1% per minute.
I'm pretty sure our phone doesn't have QC3 as I just mentioned in another thread. I'm like.. 97% sure? I remember reading early on that it was QC2, and a blend of LG that got it a little more robust than that. I'm not sure all of what's required for QC3 to work, obviously the 820 SOC supports it, but, not sure why I read that we don't have QC3.,
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I'm pretty sure our phone doesn't have QC3 as I just mentioned in another thread. I'm like.. 97% sure? I remember reading early on that it was QC2, and a blend of LG that got it a little more robust than that. I'm not sure all of what's required for QC3 to work, obviously the 820 SOC supports it, but, not sure why I read that we don't have QC3.,
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Yeah, I'm starting to believe that's the case now. I just updated the thread btway, now they're saying that 3.0 isn't enabled by LG.
Not sure this is the case of Tmo employee not knowing their sh*t or what.
baymon said:
Yeah, I'm starting to believe that's the case now. I just updated the thread btway, now they're saying that 3.0 isn't enabled by LG.
Not sure this is the case of Tmo employee not knowing their sh*t or what.
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FWIW, I have a couple of Aukey chargers. One is QC2, and one is QC3. They both "fast-charge" my phone, but I don't think I get the fastest charge on anything but the LG adapter. Usually it's fast enough for me, but I guess if I was 10-15% left, and I needed 100% in less than an hour, it might not happen.
I just picked up a US996 (Unlocked V20)... and found this site while trying to make a decision on buying new chargers, cables, etc.
I opened a chat with LG to ask them if the V20 supports USB-PD... and I got this response:
Merwin
Not that we can verify, Ryan we because we have not tested it. I highly suggest you to use the OEM charger of the V20.
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So... no help from Merwin @ LG. It seems they're not allowed to comment on it, and can only recommend the OEM charger. I was unaware that it was only QC2.0, according to the testing above.
Has anyone done more testing since? Can I buy a USB-PD charger and C-to-C cable? Should I avoid QC3.0?
Thanks
I'm interested in this as well having bought 2 QC3 chargers and neither charge my phone as fast as QC3 advertises.
I have used my brothers stock Nexus 6p charger from Google and the times are about equal to my QC3 chargers I bought
I'm using a Samsung QC 2.0 charger for mine:
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EP-TA20JWE-Travel-Charger-Devices/dp/B00TEUVEIO
I use it because I lost the LG one. It does quick charge but I can't measure the rate in the service menu. It just stays blank.
This is real easy, it happens with qc 3 on my v20 and s8+
The phone does not quick charge when the battery is warm or when the screen is on. Its really that simple. You can get faster charge times using a qc 2.0 charger or a dumb 18 watt adapter. Neither one is as picky about sending power to a warm battery, but your batteries life will be shorter than it was designed to be.
QC 3 will charge a cold empty battery faster, but in real life, it will preserve your battery over fast charging the phone.

Does the moto G5 supports the Turbo Power 15W charger?

An answer in Lenovo's support forums says the G5 does not support Turbo Power, but it comes with a 10W rapid charger. The problem that here in Brazil not even this 10w charger gets shlpped with the phone, neither can I find it for sale, so I'm thinking about getting a 15W Turbo Power charger, does anyone knows if it'll charge the G5 (25W and above are reportedly not working with the G5)
It won't work, But you'll get fast charge tho (NOT TurboCharge, which is even faster. Just standart fast charge)
Randonio said:
It won't work, But you'll get fast charge tho (NOT TurboCharge, which is even faster. Just standart fast charge)
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Will fast charge charpe it faster than a 5V-2A charger?
freeZbies said:
Will fast charge charpe it faster than a 5V-2A charger?
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Maybe? I'll test it, and say the results
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Maybe? I'll test it, and say the results
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Ok, if you do it, that'll hilp a lot, since moto G5 came with this standard 2A charges.
I bought my Moto G5 in Brazil near the launch date, it did come with the 10 W charger (5V-2A, W = V x A, do the math). As far as I know, Snapdragon 430 support Quick Charge 3.0. I bought a ROCK charger with Quick Charge 3.0, just waiting for it to arrive from Aliexpress, should work just fine.
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I bought my Moto G5 in Brazil near the launch date, it did come with the 10 W charger (5V-2A, W = V x A, do the math). As far as I know, Snapdragon 430 support Quick Charge 3.0. I bought a ROCK charger with Quick Charge 3.0, just waiting for it to arrive from Aliexpress, should work just fine.
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Well, I didn't know that this would result in 10W. Anyways, as far as I know the moto G5 doesn't support Turbo/Quick charge, despite using the Snapdragon 430. I say thay because none of the TurboPower chargers in Motorola's website cites the G5 as supported (only G5+/G5S), in addition, I read many reports in Lenovo's official forum repporting it doesn't support Quick/Turbo Charge, like here: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...g-with-Qualcomm-quick-charge-3-0/td-p/3828209
In other words, a 15W charger is not supposed to provide great advantages over the regular charger that came with it.
Anyways, thanks for showing me a 5v-2a equals 10w, I googled and confirmed it.
freeZbies said:
Well, I didn't know that this would result in 10W. Anyways, as far as I know the moto G5 doesn't support Turbo/Quick charge, despite using the Snapdragon 430. I say thay because none of the TurboPower chargers in Motorola's website cites the G5 as supported (only G5+/G5S), in addition, I read many reports in Lenovo's official forum repporting it doesn't support Quick/Turbo Charge, like here: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...g-with-Qualcomm-quick-charge-3-0/td-p/3828209
In other words, a 15W charger is not supposed to provide great advantages over the regular charger that came with it.
Anyways, thanks for showing me a 5v-2a equals 10w, I googled and confirmed it.
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You are welcome.
To be honest I have been using the Quick Charger but can confirm if it's working or not. I usually just plug the phone before going to sleep, when I wake up it's already 100% . I will search if there's anything available to detect if it's using the quick charge or not.
Did it work?
I'm using my wife's charger from her G4+ and it seems not boost the charger at all. It takes the same time with my own charger. Normally, batteries got a regulator that protect the battery from being overpowered and, maybe, exploded. So, if it was setted to 2A max it won't work anyway. Also, the official charger detects, through USB interface, if the device support Boosted Charging before sending 3A. If you wanna save your money, my advice is don't buy it.
Moto G5 doesn't support Qualcomm 2.0 or 3.0 which charge at 9V or 12V. My original charger used to charge at 5.2V and up to 1.5A, but it doesn't anymore, now doesn't go over 5.0V. Very difficult to charge when powered on when normal charger only manages about 0.6A . Also have problem with portable battery packs, best option is to connect external battery when full, and it just about stops internal battery falling. Maybe the connector wearing out, have tried different cables....
mstombs said:
Moto G5 doesn't support Qualcomm 2.0 or 3.0 which charge at 9V or 12V. My original charger used to charge at 5.2V and up to 1.5A, but it doesn't anymore, now doesn't go over 5.0V. Very difficult to charge when powered on when normal charger only manages about 0.6A . Also have problem with portable battery packs, best option is to connect external battery when full, and it just about stops internal battery falling. Maybe the connector wearing out, have tried different cables....
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Sometimes it can be as simple as a tiny piece of pocket lint/crud in the USB charging port. You can buy cans of compressed air to blow them out same as used on Camera lens or check with magnifying glass and then a toothpick with care to clean anything found out.
HTH
Blast from past on old phone! The usb port eventually failed completely, fortunately the little board is easy to replace, but the replacement board only lasted a few months. I still have the phone as a spare and charge the removable battery out of the phone.
mstombs said:
Blast from past on old phone! The usb port eventually failed completely, fortunately the little board is easy to replace, but the replacement board only lasted a few months. I still have the phone as a spare and charge the removable battery out of the phone.
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Sorry about that
But glad you still have the phone

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