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Hi my question is:
Do you think that HTC will deliver another 'superphone' this year?
Thinking about Q4 2011? Maybe this phone will be better than the Samsung Galaxy SII ?
Maybe it will just be worth waiting!!
Because at the event in London when they presented the HTC Sensation they said more to come this year!!!!
Please leave your opinion here! Thankyou!
Dude relax!
The Sensation is already better than the SGS2, check the upgraded screen resolution...
I am already meditating haha
The point is: The specification is better in the Samsung Galaxy SII but the HTC sense UI is much more attractive and I own the HTC HD2, I really like the HTC's. To bad the specifications are not so good compaired with the SII.
HTC chose not to release the HTC Sensation at the conference in Barcelona this year but couple months later.
Maybe they will bring out the phone that can replace the HD2 ! Because the HTC HD2 was a real NO BRAINER... THE first with a 4.3 inch screen and the best phone for a full year, because the specs of new phones could not compete with the HTC HD2.
vegetaleb said:
Dude relax!
The Sensation is already better than the SGS2, check the upgraded screen resolution...
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Dude, open your eyes! You have just pointed out the only advantage the Sensation has over the SGS2... And all in all, the SGS2 still has the better screen
Dude on a 4.3'' screen it's very important to have this new resolution whatever you have super extra modular amoled plus beta
Both have dual core cpu
Both have 8mp, even dual led for Sensation
Sense 3.0 beat the hell out of touchwiz
I don't care if there are 2% more speed in games lol.
Now I just hope HTC will let us root it and that they upgraded the loudspeaker
Don't get me wrong, I used to be a huge fan of HTC. I currently happily own one. I just think they've lost their touch and are not "innovative" anymore.
Sense 3.0 versus TouchWiz 4.0 is a matter of taste and even though both have dual core CPU and 8MP cameras, Samsung's are significantly better.
The screen may have an improved resolution, but being a pentile matrix it doesn't really make it outstanding. Plus the fact that it's a wider format (16/9) which means less lines of text when reading a web page in landscape mode.
Also the Samsung should have a way better battery life (thanks to the lower consumption screen and CPU).
The dual band Wifi on the Samsung is an interesting point for me as I have dual band routers, and the 5GHz band is faster. The Sensation is single band Wifi, bummer.
Out of the box, there's 16Gb of storage on the Samsung versus 1Gb on the HTC. The Samsung includes all sorts of codecs for audio and video, including mkv. Hello HTC, are we in 2011?
HSPA+ is 21Mbps for the Samsung versus 14.4Mbps for the HTC.
USB host is nowhere to be found in the HTC, is supported by the Samsung.
Audio output quality will be presumably better in the Samsung (wolfson chip).
Should I go on? I have only listed the advantages that are really quantifiables, not just "okay it's 2% faster"...
Sorry dude, HTC is no longer the leader of high-end smartphones it used to be...
So you don't believe HTC will launch a super hot phone in Q4 2011?
I really hope so! Although my plan is finished in August. I am still breaking my head which phone to take? HTC Sensation or the Samsung Galaxy SII.
At this moment I am wondering if there is better to come this year, Worth waiting...
Or should I make a choice? Don't forget I am still owning a HD2 with Android NAND.
Can't wait for both to come to the market and then hear what people say about the phones!!!
Samsung Galaxy S II is already out in UK mate, you can check feedbacks at GSII forums. From what first owners says, it seems perfect really. It's almost fishy as it ticks all boxes.
I have pre-ordered it and will get my hands on it in a week or so, I'll also give the HTC Sensation a shot on may 12th as I'm due to an upgrade so I might give you some feedbacks then
Well apparently there will be a better super hot phone in 2011, according to Eldar Murtazin (Mobile Review) the Samsung Galaxy S III should be released in autumn and is the mother of all phones (iPhone5 competitor).
Don't expect anything but minor improvements/variants from HTC this year as compared to the Sensation.
So if you're not in a hurry, wait for the Galaxy S III. Otherwise just get the Galaxy S II now (it's released in UK and South Korea, other countries to follow shortly)
Thanks for the info. HTC should be the one to bring out the follow up phone for the HD2. They not really did that yet and they know that HD2 was a big succes. The HD Desire is still oldskool. The next generation phones are all with dual core!! I must say: I really hope HTC brings news about some asesome phone coming this Q4 2011.
I really believe in this.
Samsung Galaxy II is already great... can't see III coming soon.
HTC is letting me down at the moment, My girlfriend has the galaxy s, I still prefere HTC though... what to do?
turt said:
Don't get me wrong, I used to be a huge fan of HTC. I currently happily own one. I just think they've lost their touch and are not "innovative" anymore.
Sense 3.0 versus TouchWiz 4.0 is a matter of taste and even though both have dual core CPU and 8MP cameras, Samsung's are significantly better.
The screen may have an improved resolution, but being a pentile matrix it doesn't really make it outstanding. Plus the fact that it's a wider format (16/9) which means less lines of text when reading a web page in landscape mode.
Also the Samsung should have a way better battery life (thanks to the lower consumption screen and CPU).
The dual band Wifi on the Samsung is an interesting point for me as I have dual band routers, and the 5GHz band is faster. The Sensation is single band Wifi, bummer.
Out of the box, there's 16Gb of storage on the Samsung versus 1Gb on the HTC. The Samsung includes all sorts of codecs for audio and video, including mkv. Hello HTC, are we in 2011?
HSPA+ is 21Mbps for the Samsung versus 14.4Mbps for the HTC.
USB host is nowhere to be found in the HTC, is supported by the Samsung.
Audio output quality will be presumably better in the Samsung (wolfson chip).
Should I go on? I have only listed the advantages that are really quantifiables, not just "okay it's 2% faster"...
Sorry dude, HTC is no longer the leader of high-end smartphones it used to be...
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Yep......I couldn't have said that better myself
So I should forget about HTC and HTC SENSE...?
I think touchwizz 4.0 is not so cool as sense 3.0.
HTC is so good in simplicity. They bring their product and the phone is really made to suit you. See all the videos they made for HTC sensation!
HD2 is not a device like other, it's really a computer!
Do you know any phone that can dual boot wm7 and Android?
They could even put ios it wouldn't shock me
HD2 was originally dedicated for wm6.5 only, so if HTC want to launch an HD3 it will be officially for wm7.
I think you mean you want a replacement for the DHD
I want a super android phone!!!! But I don't think their will be better phones this year!
I still thinking, what should I do? My heart says buy the sensation but my brains say buy the SII.... So what to do?
well I think HTC "gave" us the phones for this year.. maybe in the end they will have something new, but what'll be better? maybe 1GB Ram and w/e.. I mean, even the heaviest games to Android dont really need 1GB to work really good.. just keep your phone clean and 768MB and great Sense will do the work.
Also in my opinion, the SGS II is ugly compared to HTC . (Some of the phones of HTC.. like the Desire and Sensation).
I agree for the design, the sgs2 is a pale copy of the old iphone while HTC have their own design and more specially I love the rubber feel at the back
The pro and the cons... between the 2: Samsung wins.
But I just have to wait to see what people say about those phones!
I think I would still go for the HTC Sensation, but if I don't like the design in real life well then it will be the SII.
Htc France did confirm that an Gsm version of the Evo 3d would be available but gave no dates. Hopefully it will arrive Q4! Fingers crossed
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Realplayer-88 said:
The pro and the cons... between the 2: Samsung wins.
But I just have to wait to see what people say about those phones!
I think I would still go for the HTC Sensation, but if I don't like the design in real life well then it will be the SII.
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As I said earlier you can check feedback about GSII from now. For Sense UI it is better than touchwizz and if it is the only thing that makes you do a compromise when considering the GSII then well a little birdie told me that there may be a solution to fix that... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzhtziHD7IY (it is an alpha and it is already running smoother than any HTC to date because of the better hardware of the GS)
SII still beats the EVO 3D. So it suppose to be a new phone from HTC. I need a leak!! Hahaha somewhere it must be clear what kind of phone they will bring out in Q4 2011.
Well I was looking for an advice , I don't have anyone else to ask so I come here , hope It's okay.
Anyways , I wanted to upgrade from my ds to a sensation xe or galaxy nexus but I was wondering if it is really worth it..
I love the community here , great devs and etc but a small bar on my screen isn't working and its almost impossible to use the phone :/
Now o have few options , either to upgrade either to fix my phone. I like the fact that we are getting ICS..
Any opinions?
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Both those are already old devices. Best look at a HTC One S if you can live with the 16gb internal memory, or the HTC One X if you want the flagship for 2012.
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What do you mean by a small bar isn't working?
Agree with above comments regarding upgrade.
I'd say fix (especially if it could be done cheaply or even better under warranty) and then consider replacing in six months
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You see , my budget is limited to around 400 , 500 dollars at best. (Selling my device and the regular desire )
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i second wnp_79 advice, the HTC One X with its quad-core processor and 1.5gb ram is the one too look out for.
i think the next best thing for you would be the Nexus or could you wait for the Samung Galaxy s3.
All these new phones coming out, its an exciting time for the Android platform!!!
At $400-$500 the One X is obviously out of his budget. I'm not entirely sure about the One S though.
Samsung and Phones4U are set to be unveiling something on March 30th, just to let you know though.
I would say go for one s its a superb phone had it for 2 hours with me....
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Well i want similar answers, I got an opportunity to upgrade from my Desire S to a Sensation XE for 80$? what do you think? OvO
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Well i want similar answers, I got an opportunity to upgrade from my Desire S to a Sensation XE for 80$? what do you think? OvO
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Damn I want to have this option badly , I would do it ASAP , just me though.
Do you mind sharing how you'll do this? Locally or here on xda?
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Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
What do you mean by "developer phone"?
"Developer phone" = the phone of Nexus branding (Nexus One / Nexus S / Galaxy Nexus / something else in the future that will carry "Nexus" in its name). They're made to run pure Android, and are OTA-updated directly from Google, ahead of other phones.
Do what you're saying is that I should stay with the desire s a bit of more time?
I like sense , especially the 4 lite version but I have no problem with the stock android.
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Jack_R1 said:
Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
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The Nexus S has had nearly every overlay(sense,touchwiz,blur etc) ported to it by swamp goblin so point 2 is invalid
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dan-fish said:
At $400-$500 the One X is obviously out of his budget. I'm not entirely sure about the One S though.
Samsung and Phones4U are set to be unveiling something on March 30th, just to let you know though.
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Turns out that the store is being refurbished, and Samsung is paying for part of it
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If it's not a problem, and you can fix its screen problem cheaply - yes, I think it'll be better. Unless you really want to spend money - in this case, all the One X/S talk is irrelevant, and your options are Sensation or AT&T Galaxy S2 - pick whichever you like.
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mmmcfc said:
The Nexus S has had nearly every overlay(sense,touchwiz,blur etc) ported to it by swamp goblin so point 2 is invalid
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Buggy like hell, at least the Sense. It's like saying HD2 has every possible ROM ported to it - true, and they were all in semi-functional state since Froyo - so they're worthless. Much like the current ICS ports all around the MSM8x55-based device forums, which are useful only for people that don't use half of their phones' capabilities. But with a small difference - those devices, at least DHD and DS, will get a fully functional ICS, because it'll be officially released for them, while Nexus devices will most likely never get a stable ROM, if I can judge by what happened until now.
Jack_R1 said:
"Developer phone" = the phone of Nexus branding (Nexus One / Nexus S / Galaxy Nexus / something else in the future that will carry "Nexus" in its name). They're made to run pure Android, and are OTA-updated directly from Google, ahead of other phones.
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Aah i see, at first i thought it was a phone for dev only, kinda like for testing purpose. Thank for the info mate.
Arcaneex said:
Damn I want to have this option badly , I would do it ASAP , just me though.
Do you mind sharing how you'll do this? Locally or here on xda?
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Well i put up my Desire S for sale for 270JDs (about 300$?) and someone offered to exchange mine for his for 80$, not a bad thing i'd say, and i've already had it with this phone =.= (not the desire S itself, just the one i have), so i guess it'll be allright, i just need to find the money now hahaha
i'd like a bigger screen, bigger battery, and i'm a sucker for black/red, also them beats headphones ;D;
although the battery drain will go with the hardware, i think it'll be a bit better than my DS
i think galaxy nexus is a good choice
Jack_R1 said:
Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
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Made for some interesting reading... appreciate the time taken, and agree with the content therein.
2012 is shaping up to be a good year for Android smartphones, especially in terms of making the jump from dual core devices to quad core architecture. With the release of the HTC One S, the HTC One X, Samsungs Galaxy Nexus (and Note), and the soon to be released Samsung Galaxy S3, consumers will (do) have a lot of options when it comes to purchasing a high end Android device. HTC made the biggest noise with their One line this year at Mobile World Congress, and while demand for the devices is there, not only has their release gotten off to a rocky start in terms of problems, but HTC as a company is reporting all time low profits and revenues. Sony also released their new Xperia line, which are not bad devices specwise, but don't seem to be generating that much consumer buzz.. Same goes for the LG Optimus True HD, as spec-wise it's certainly not a bad phone, but unfortunately consumer interest in the device doesn't seem to be that high.
Samsung, on the other hand, is not only having record sales for the Samsung Galaxy S2, but are selling a solid amount of Notes (over 5 million) Galaxy Nexus phones, and have a very good chance of setting record numbers again when the Galaxy S3 hits the market on May 3rd in London. With HTC, Sony, and LG struggling to gain traction in the smartphone market, Samsung continues to prosper. But the question is why? Why are Samsung winning the game that everyone else seems to be losing?
Is it the hardware/design?
In terms of specs, the Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus, and Galaxy Note certainly aren't the only devices packing such hardware. In many ways, the newly released (in Europe anyway) HTC One S packs more raw CPU power and camera muscle than all of these devices, and its 8MP camera is one of the best we've ever seen. The HTC Sensation, which came out last year, also had some good specs as well, sporting an 8MP camera and a dual core 1.2ghz processor. The soon to be released LG Optimus True HD is also packing a 1.5ghz processor, an HD display, a gig of RAM, and an 8MP camera as well. So why is the hype for the first quad core phone, the HTC One X, not nearly as high as it is for the Galaxy S3? Why did the HTC Sensation not move 20 or 30 million units like the Galaxy S2? The newest Motorola Razr packed a 1.2 ghz processor, Super Amoled 4.3 display, and an 8MP camera as well. The point I'm trying to make/ask is why are phones with similiar specs not doing nearly as well as the Galaxy S2?
Was it a design thing? I don't think so. In all honestly, I preferred the solid feel of HTC phones over Samsungs more plasticy feel, especially when holding the Galaxy S2 in one hand and the Sensation in the other. If I had to pick an Android skin (which I don't, since I'm always rooted), I would have also picked Sense ANY DAY over Touchwiz. HTC had a lot going for it with the Sensation and Sensation XE, and LG, Sony, and Motorola all had pretty solid designs on their phones with similiar specs as well. So again....why did Samsung have success where others didn't?
Agressive + STYLISH marketing = WIN
I have a few theories. For starters, Samsung got a jump on the competition by releasing the Galaxy S2 back in February of 2011 at MWC. At the time, this was one of the only Android devices that rivaled the iPhone in power (it was actually a lot more powerful). HTC went on to release their dual core device 2 months later, but where HTC failed was in marketing their device. Samsung very aggresively marketed the Galaxy S2, and you can see from the sales numbers that the strategy more than succeeded. That's not to say that HTC didn't market their device at all, but the difference was the WAY Samsung marketed the device. I have honestly never seen an Android phone so aggresively marketed, and Samsung successfully created a STYLISH marketing campaign that you would normally only expect from Apple. The TV commercials were frequent, stylish, and aggressive, and most importantly, stuck in the minds of consumers. It was pretty hard walking around Berlin without seeing a poster of the device somewhere on every street corner, and pretty soon I saw people at the office showing it off.
There are so many ways to market a device, but when it comes to marketing to make a device stick in the minds of consumers, Apple has this down to a fine art. NOBODY markets better than Apple, and Samsung not only realized that, but successfully cloned that style. But when they did it, they tapered it to their own product and their own needs in a way that made it seem a "cool“ must have device.
Some OEM's had too many/ few devices for any to stand out
I'm really hard on HTC, and that's because I have a lot of respect for them. They have made some AMAZING Android devices, and I was the happy owner of a G1, a Nexus One, and Sensation for a long time. In all honesty, I thought that they would become THE Android manufacturer with the biggest numbers. But HTC especially made a big boo boo by overflooding the market with too many devices. There was no way for the public to simply concentrate on one phone, as devices of all names, shapes, and sizes running more or less the same or similiar hardware kept continuously hitting the market. Sure, Samsung didn't have only 1 device either, but they concentrated their efforts on the Galaxy S and the Galaxy S2 primarily, and simply forced the public to notice it. HTC's strategy looked good on paper, as they thought by releasing mass quantities of low, mid, and high end smartphones that they would have all price ranges covered for consumers. But the problem is, it's easy to remember 1 or 2 devices. It's really hard to remember 10. Sometimes, less really is more. Other OEMS like Sony and LG however, had fewer devices, but didn't have enough consumer interest generated in them to become game changing phones.
I don't quite understand why wouldn't Google make Motorola their designated device manufacturer. I mean, since Google aquired Motorola there's really nothing stopping them from creating a line of devices that would be fully supported by Google itself. Or not a line, but just two: a smartphone and a tablet, thoroughly designed, tested and promoted. Software updates would surely be available faster than they are now for third party developers.
Great opening post
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Yeah, I also very respect HTC and will stick with it.
CreatioSoft said:
2012 is shaping up to be a good year for Android smartphones, especially in terms of making the jump from dual core devices to quad core architecture. With the release of the HTC One S, the HTC One X, Samsungs Galaxy Nexus (and Note), and the soon to be released Samsung Galaxy S3, consumers will (do) have a lot of options when it comes to purchasing a high end Android device. HTC made the biggest noise with their One line this year at Mobile World Congress, and while demand for the devices is there, not only has their release gotten off to a rocky start in terms of problems, but HTC as a company is reporting all time low profits and revenues. Sony also released their new Xperia line, which are not bad devices specwise, but don't seem to be generating that much consumer buzz.. Same goes for the LG Optimus True HD, as spec-wise it's certainly not a bad phone, but unfortunately consumer interest in the device doesn't seem to be that high.
Samsung, on the other hand, is not only having record sales for the Samsung Galaxy S2, but are selling a solid amount of Notes (over 5 million) Galaxy Nexus phones, and have a very good chance of setting record numbers again when the Galaxy S3 hits the market on May 3rd in London. With HTC, Sony, and LG struggling to gain traction in the smartphone market, Samsung continues to prosper. But the question is why? Why are Samsung winning the game that everyone else seems to be losing?
Is it the hardware/design?
In terms of specs, the Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus, and Galaxy Note certainly aren't the only devices packing such hardware. In many ways, the newly released (in Europe anyway) HTC One S packs more raw CPU power and camera muscle than all of these devices, and its 8MP camera is one of the best we've ever seen. The HTC Sensation, which came out last year, also had some good specs as well, sporting an 8MP camera and a dual core 1.2ghz processor. The soon to be released LG Optimus True HD is also packing a 1.5ghz processor, an HD display, a gig of RAM, and an 8MP camera as well. So why is the hype for the first quad core phone, the HTC One X, not nearly as high as it is for the Galaxy S3? Why did the HTC Sensation not move 20 or 30 million units like the Galaxy S2? The newest Motorola Razr packed a 1.2 ghz processor, Super Amoled 4.3 display, and an 8MP camera as well. The point I'm trying to make/ask is why are phones with similiar specs not doing nearly as well as the Galaxy S2?
Was it a design thing? I don't think so. In all honestly, I preferred the solid feel of HTC phones over Samsungs more plasticy feel, especially when holding the Galaxy S2 in one hand and the Sensation in the other. If I had to pick an Android skin (which I don't, since I'm always rooted), I would have also picked Sense ANY DAY over Touchwiz. HTC had a lot going for it with the Sensation and Sensation XE, and LG, Sony, and Motorola all had pretty solid designs on their phones with similiar specs as well. So again....why did Samsung have success where others didn't?
Agressive + STYLISH marketing = WIN
I have a few theories. For starters, Samsung got a jump on the competition by releasing the Galaxy S2 back in February of 2011 at MWC. At the time, this was one of the only Android devices that rivaled the iPhone in power (it was actually a lot more powerful). HTC went on to release their dual core device 2 months later, but where HTC failed was in marketing their device. Samsung very aggresively marketed the Galaxy S2, and you can see from the sales numbers that the strategy more than succeeded. That's not to say that HTC didn't market their device at all, but the difference was the WAY Samsung marketed the device. I have honestly never seen an Android phone so aggresively marketed, and Samsung successfully created a STYLISH marketing campaign that you would normally only expect from Apple. The TV commercials were frequent, stylish, and aggressive, and most importantly, stuck in the minds of consumers. It was pretty hard walking around Berlin without seeing a poster of the device somewhere on every street corner, and pretty soon I saw people at the office showing it off.
There are so many ways to market a device, but when it comes to marketing to make a device stick in the minds of consumers, Apple has this down to a fine art. NOBODY markets better than Apple, and Samsung not only realized that, but successfully cloned that style. But when they did it, they tapered it to their own product and their own needs in a way that made it seem a "cool“ must have device.
Some OEM's had too many/ few devices for any to stand out
I'm really hard on HTC, and that's because I have a lot of respect for them. They have made some AMAZING Android devices, and I was the happy owner of a G1, a Nexus One, and Sensation for a long time. In all honesty, I thought that they would become THE Android manufacturer with the biggest numbers. But HTC especially made a big boo boo by overflooding the market with too many devices. There was no way for the public to simply concentrate on one phone, as devices of all names, shapes, and sizes running more or less the same or similiar hardware kept continuously hitting the market. Sure, Samsung didn't have only 1 device either, but they concentrated their efforts on the Galaxy S and the Galaxy S2 primarily, and simply forced the public to notice it. HTC's strategy looked good on paper, as they thought by releasing mass quantities of low, mid, and high end smartphones that they would have all price ranges covered for consumers. But the problem is, it's easy to remember 1 or 2 devices. It's really hard to remember 10. Sometimes, less really is more. Other OEMS like Sony and LG however, had fewer devices, but didn't have enough consumer interest generated in them to become game changing phones.
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maybe samsung phone is just much better than the rest of the makers on the market?
HTC sensation one ****ty as phone compared even to my galaxy s1.
In my country:
Sony: Had a good start with the Walkman phones but the first xperia phones and the vivaz had many hardware issues like the usb ports falling off and waiting 2 months to fix them.
HTC: Marketing is poor, their phones are very expensive and not found everywhere.
Motorola: Bad reputation because their first the old RAZR phones were bad and we have 2 droids avalible: Milestone and Defy.
LG: Same reasons as motorola .
Samsung: Aggressive marketing, huge number of phones, cheaper than others, found everywhere, and finally we get the good phones, not the leftover Samsung is like Nokia now.
I thought about this just today. All my devices are samsung & that was not on purpose...
Might also have something to do with the fact that Samsung has been a trusted manufacturer in the tech industry ever since I can remember.
Their aggressive advertising campaigns, especially the stabs at apple, might also have something to do with it.
Their phones IMO are very aesthetically pleasing. Everyone buys big bulky cases that cover it anyway
Also their availability in the US is insane, you can get a galaxy phone in any size and at any price range on any carrier.
Most of their devices have a gigantic development community behind them too.
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Might also have something to do with the fact that Samsung has been a trusted manufacturer in the tech industry ever since I can remember.
Their aggressive advertising campaigns, especially the stabs at apple, might also have something to do with it.
Their phones IMO are very aesthetically pleasing. Everyone buys big bulky cases that cover it anyway
Also their availability in the US is insane, you can get a galaxy phone in any size and at any price range on any carrier.
Most of their devices have a gigantic development community behind them too.
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IMO, samsung simply dominates the market because they have the greatest hardware. Since the time I bought a samsung moment my first android phone they were ahead of HTC and Motorola was right next to samsung with the droid 1. They just had a great start
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I happened to answer a phone survey about 3 years ago asking me about who I think of when smart phone is mentioned. Apple was the obvious answer at that point in time, followed by motorolla. It became clear the survey was for Samsung as they started to inquire about what I knew about Samsung phones. Less than a year later the Galaxy S line came out. In 3 years if I answered the same survey Apple would be the first again but Samsung would be the second followed by HTC and Motorolla. In 3 years time it went from not even a thought in my mind to say Samsung to they would be either the first or second name to come to mind. Good marketing is good business.
I would not say a monopoly as that would mean there is no competition. Htc and Motorolla exist. HTC I feel is stuck in the mud and have not moved forward in a while including the One serries and sense 4.0. Motorolla has always come across to me as the phones apple fans point to when they say android sucks. Never picked up a Motorolla phone I was impressed with (this is just my opinion). Sony and LG are real marginal in the US, I can not speak to elsewhere
It seems that Samsung is taking over the high-end android market with their Galaxy S phones, HTC is trying to move into that with the One phones but IMO samsung phones are still better
Samsung is a BIG company who is researching almost everything... They have money, people, knowledge and BRAND!!! Where was htc five years ago?...I remember that several phones which i bought was samsung because of their design from d500, d600, d900, u600 and that old phones,marketing and good memories told me that i need to buy sammy again. Personaly i see HTC and Samsung leading android manufactures
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And remember they are all here with one purpose : To take our money! Anything else... We wont get nothing from them..
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Got to love Samsung screens. They're amazing, and apparently some people like TouchWiz.
The only thing Samsung doesn't own yet is a grocery store,I think.
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And remember they are all here with one purpose : To take our money! Anything else... We wont get nothing from them..
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And remember, the one who takes the money is the one who remembers old customers and makes improvements so......Samsung at that point
I think the one x's design and slcd2 is more than enough to make up for its poorer performance than gs3(if there's any) sense is also very beautiful imo.
What htc needs now is build up the one brand. Samsung design phones that are too similar to iphone. Makes me feel cheap using it
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I think the one x's design and slcd2 is more than enough to make up for its poorer performance than gs3(if there's any) sense is also very beautiful imo.
What htc needs now is build up the one brand. Samsung design phones that are too similar to iphone. Makes me feel cheap using it
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Well you got some point there, but at the and specs are the engine for us to buy. I can admit that design is also a key.
" To argue about taste is always pointless" - Romans said it long ago.
Specs are competitive not design. And frankly i can't understand what guys meaning with "sexy" when they talk about phones
SGS2 has overall better benchmark results then a stock HTC sensation. But with similar ROMS, the user's experiance is hardly any difference. it's HTC design what keeps me from ever switching to Samsung.
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SGS2 has overall better benchmark results then a stock HTC sensation. But with similar ROMS, the user's experiance is hardly any difference. it's HTC design what keeps me from ever switching to Samsung.
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My dad has the Evo 3d and I'm amazed with how HTC has managed to just put too much crap into Sense, so that the appdrawer lags when scrolling through it.
I recommended ADW to my friend (who also has a Evo 3D) and the next day he said he was amazed by how fast and fluid it worked.
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Ok guys,
I'm due an upgrade in August, but I don't know whether to pass out on it.
I currently have a Desire S. It's got quite old hardware, a single core chip. I'm a heavy user of my phone, so it has to do many things for me - web browsing, email, etc.
I can't afford a quad core highend phone. So I'm thinking of getting a One S. It's only dual core... But if I get it, it will have to last me at least 2 years. That's a big decision to make. I've only had my Desire S 11 months, and I already stayed feeling the need to upgrade.
I need a faster CPU to keep up with android demands, and a larger screen.
The thing is, if I get the One S, how outdated will it be?
From what I see, dual core has a huge advantage over single core.
But quad core not so much over dual core... (Or maybe android isn't making good use of it)
What's next for the move in smartphones? 8 cores seems unlikely... So what will be next? If nothing big comes along, will the One S and its dual core chip still be good enough to last me 2 years?
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I'd wait until HTC announces a new, better phone than the One series. Bit the Ones are great phones, you can't go wrong with them.
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I'd wait until HTC announces a new, better phone than the One series. Bit the Ones are great phones, you can't go wrong with them.
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Thanks, but what significant hardware improvements will HTC bring?
How will it differ greatly from the current range?
That leaves my other concern, is 10GB in the One S enough to last me 2 years? I've gotten by on a 8GB SD card on my Desire S...
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I would probably wait for a phone with 2GB or RAM such as the US version of the S3. Dual or quad core with 2gb or RAM should be good for at least 2 years.
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I would probably wait for a phone with 2GB or RAM such as the US version of the S3. Dual or quad core with 2gb or RAM should be good for at least 2 years.
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So you are saying RAM is gonna make a huge difference?
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olyloh6696 said:
It's got quite old hardware, a single core chip. I'm a heavy user of my phone, so it has to do many things for me - web browsing, email, etc.
I can't afford a quad core highend phone. So I'm thinking of getting a One S. It's only dual core...
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I use Windows Phone 7.5 so I don't have to OBSESS about cores. I don't need 4 cores to check email whether I check email once a day or once a minute. Sorry I can't help.
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I use Windows Phone 7.5 so I don't have to OBSESS about cores. I don't need 4 cores to check email whether I check email once a day or once a minute. Sorry I can't help.
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Yeah, I see where u are coming from, but this isn't the case with android... It NEEDs the cores to have a smooth experience...
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So you are saying RAM is gonna make a huge difference?
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I think it will eventually. We are becoming more and more dependent on our phones. We want them to sync facebook, use GPS, listen to music and text at the same time. Once the software catches up to the hardware, there will only be more things to add to our multi tasking...more RAM is definitely the way to go.
Honestly, I'd say pick the one that has the best battery life, useability and moddability. Most of these smartphones nowadays are neck and neck imo. So you may as well get the one that you can customize the hell out of and will net you what you consider acceptable battery life.
If you want two cores you can probably score a deal on a Galaxy S II I saw "Fire-Sales" in London where they were going for £180 - £220. I recently picked up my Galaxy S I for £100 new in box. Also don't forget devices like the Optimus 2x or the Atrix 4G.
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Yeah, I see where u are coming from, but this isn't the case with android... It NEEDs the cores to have a smooth experience...
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I would very strongly disagree with that. I'm using my HD2 which has hardware about a year and a half older than the Desire S (basically an older generation CPU and GPU, approximately 200Mb less RAM, Windows Mobile as stock) and it runs ICS (CM9) very smoothly. It's been three years since it's release and it's still going strong. There is a potential One V Alpha build and I think Jelly Bean (or whatever the next iteration of Android will be called) is quite possible for the HD2. I think that the One S is a poor choice, because you might as well just get a Sensation which has essentially the same hardware as the One S and has the added benefits of being cheaper, having a bigger developer base (I think) and having a menu button (which is a lot more useful than you'd think, the onscreen one is very ugly ). Whether or not this will last you 2 years on official software I don't know, but I reckon it'll last a good couple of years. The only problem is if the devs move off of the Sensation and on to a new phone.
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I think it will eventually. We are becoming more and more dependent on our phones. We want them to sync facebook, use GPS, listen to music and text at the same time. Once the software catches up to the hardware, there will only be more things to add to our multi tasking...more RAM is definitely the way to go.
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Thanks mate. I read that the SGS3 struggles with RAM (1GB version) as the new skin is so heavy, that the launcher constantly withdraws etc.
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Honestly, I'd say pick the one that has the best battery life, useability and moddability. Most of these smartphones nowadays are neck and neck imo. So you may as well get the one that you can customize the hell out of and will net you what you consider acceptable battery life.
If you want two cores you can probably score a deal on a Galaxy S II I saw "Fire-Sales" in London where they were going for £180 - £220. I recently picked up my Galaxy S I for £100 new in box. Also don't forget devices like the Optimus 2x or the Atrix 4G.
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Thanks man! Fire-sales - can you be more direct please? Are these brand new from retail shops? I had my eye on the SGS2 aswell...
Where can I look around?
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Thanks mate. I read that the SGS3 struggles with RAM (1GB version) as the new skin is so heavy, that the launcher constantly withdraws etc.
Thanks man! Fire-sales - can you be more direct please? Are these brand new from retail shops? I had my eye on the SGS2 aswell...
Where can I look around?
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Oh when I wrote my post (you probably missed it on the previous page) I was making the assume that you wanted to go HTC only. If you are willing to go for an SGS2, that would definitely beat a Sensation IMO.
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I would very strongly disagree with that. I'm using my HD2 which has hardware about a year and a half older than the Desire S (basically an older generation CPU and GPU, approximately 200Mb less RAM, Windows Mobile as stock) and it runs ICS (CM9) very smoothly. It's been three years since it's release and it's still going strong. There is a potential One V Alpha build and I think Jelly Bean (or whatever the next iteration of Android will be called) is quite possible for the HD2. I think that the One S is a poor choice, because you might as well just get a Sensation which has essentially the same hardware as the One S and has the added benefits of being cheaper, having a bigger developer base (I think) and having a menu button (which is a lot more useful than you'd think, the onscreen one is very ugly ). Whether or not this will last you 2 years on official software I don't know, but I reckon it'll last a good couple of years. The only problem is if the devs move off of the Sensation and on to a new phone.
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Well, I don't use AOSP ROMs. I use full Sense ROMs, so the phone is slower, I use it heavily for web browsing, and gaming etc. I've noticed the browser is never as smooth as a dual core phone. I use my phone extensively, therefore, I like fluid performance, and for me android on a single core doesn't satisfy MY needs.
Also you are slightly off... The One S is far ahead of the Sensation. It uses a S4 chip compared to the S3 in the Sensation with a much newer CPU and GPU, it's much much more efficient, and currently the best dual core chip... That's why I wanted to choose that...
Dev support Is decent for the One S.
I'm open to all android manufacturers. (Actually. Only Samsung or HTC)
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The specs for all flagship phones are all very good now, maybe a little saturated. The important thing is the advancement in software. There is still no LibreOffice or full Adobe Photoshop or AutoCAD for Android. Fanboys will get mad reading this, but Android needs vast improvement in interface speed, look at Windows Phone running on single core devices and their boot time.
Phones will keep getting better because it will be the main 'PC' for everyone in the future (if not already now). People will carry it with them then dock it to do more productive tasks. Which is what Ubuntu is trying to do with Android.
For me personally, the Nexus still gives me the most freedom and most up to date Android version, so no reason to buy anything else yet.
The best example of hardware ahead of software is the next iPhone, no matter how high res or fast it is, its still an iPhone running on closed source iOS, so I won't buy it.
Is cutting edge hardware really that necessary? If you noticed, Google is the responsible for pushing the envelope and forcing more powerful hardware with less battery life and so. Remeber what happened to Honeycomb? Running slow and sluggish even on the platform it was specifically made for. Or wondering why the old Tegra cpu has some lag on ICS when the most recent S4 and Exynos quad core doesn't? Is there a reason for a dual core smartphone (HTC One S) to score higher than a quad core(HTC One X)? Our modern cutting edge phones are bigger, with objectionable battery life and can barely fit in our pockets.
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Well, I don't use AOSP ROMs. I use full Sense ROMs, so the phone is slower, I use it heavily for web browsing, and gaming etc. I've noticed the browser is never as smooth as a dual core phone. I use my phone extensively, therefore, I like fluid performance, and for me android on a single core doesn't satisfy MY needs.
Also you are slightly off... The One S is far ahead of the Sensation. It uses a S4 chip compared to the S3 in the Sensation with a much newer CPU and GPU, it's much much more efficient, and currently the best dual core chip... That's why I wanted to choose that...
Dev support Is decent for the One S.
I'm open to all android manufacturers. (Actually. Only Samsung or HTC)
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Yeah, I don't use Sense for the reason that I find it sluggish. I've used my Mum's desire S now and again purely to see how good Sense is and whether or not to flash it, and it's always just seemed too slow for me, and since your hardware is of a newer generation I doubt my phone would cope well. However, with CM9 it genuinely is fast and smooth. The best performance improvement I've noticed over CM7/GB is in the browser, where I find the smoothness and the zooming comparable with an SGS3.
The One S is far ahead of the Sensation, you're right (actually it scores higher quadrant scores than a Sensation as well I think) but the only problem I'd have with a One S is simply that I don't know whether or not it's necessary to pay extra when you can pick up a Sensation relatively cheaply. In day-to-day performance I don't know whether or not you'll notice it tbh.
Perhaps an SGS2 would be better then, or maybe as suggested above a GNex.
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The specs for all flagship phones are all very good now, maybe a little saturated. The important thing is the advancement in software. There is still no LibreOffice or full Adobe Photoshop or AutoCAD for Android. Fanboys will get mad reading this, but Android needs vast improvement in interface speed, look at Windows Phone running on single core devices and their boot time.
Phones will keep getting better because it will be the main 'PC' for everyone in the future (if not already now). People will carry it with them then dock it to do more productive tasks. Which is what Ubuntu is trying to do with Android.
For me personally, the Nexus still gives me the most freedom and most up to date Android version, so no reason to buy anything else yet.
The best example of hardware ahead of software is the next iPhone, no matter how high res or fast it is, its still an iPhone running on closed source iOS, so I won't buy it.
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Yeah I agree with you. It's a shame OEMs don't provide software updates to the phones though, even though they are far capable. The One S is likely to receive Jellybean... But what about Key Lime Pie in the future?
That's where my problem lies. In 2 years, support will be dead. Also, I know you can use custom ROMs etc, but they are never perfect, as you need the official kernel source from HTC so the ROM cam be stable.
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Is cutting edge hardware really that necessary? If you noticed, Google is the responsible for pushing the envelope and forcing more powerful hardware with less battery life and so. Remeber what happened to Honeycomb? Running slow and sluggish even on the platform it was specifically made for. Or wondering why the old Tegra cpu has some lag on ICS when the most recent S4 and Exynos quad core doesn't? Is there a reason for a dual core smartphone (HTC One S) to score higher than a quad core(HTC One X)? Our modern cutting edge phones are bigger, with objectionable battery life and can barely fit in our pockets.
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Well, I don't like to be behind in technology. When I compare my Desire S to say, a SGS2, it makes me weep seeing how much faster the SGS is. That's why my question, will hardware improve much from quad core? For me, dual core to quad core is a much smaller jump, than single to dual.
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Yeah, I don't use Sense for the reason that I find it sluggish. I've used my Mum's desire S now and again purely to see how good Sense is and whether or not to flash it, and it's always just seemed too slow for me, and since your hardware is of a newer generation I doubt my phone would cope well. However, with CM9 it genuinely is fast and smooth. The best performance improvement I've noticed over CM7/GB is in the browser, where I find the smoothness and the zooming comparable with an SGS3.
The One S is far ahead of the Sensation, you're right (actually it scores higher quadrant scores than a Sensation as well I think) but the only problem I'd have with a One S is simply that I don't know whether or not it's necessary to pay extra when you can pick up a Sensation relatively cheaply. In day-to-day performance I don't know whether or not you'll notice it tbh.
Perhaps an SGS2 would be better then, or maybe as suggested above a GNex.
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Yeah, thanks for the suggestion, I was thinking of the SGS2, for me the browser is far from what the SGS2 offers. There's a good video on YouTube,
Desire S vs SGS2 web browsing... Just watch the difference and you will kno what I mean!
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I'm looking forward to see what Intel will do for mobile platforms now that they have joined in, they are new to mobile development but it seems like they are working on there hyper threading tech on there socs, sending 2 commands per core like there desktop PC chips (1 core processing the same amount of information that two cores would do). The next 24 months will be an exciting time for the mobile market!
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Hello,
I want to upgrade my phone to high end android (have been using windows mobile 6.5.3 and android 2.3.7 )
so i have looked over some thing like 20 phones and i could not pick one that will i will be able to like my own child .
The problem is mainly since all the phones have the same price, ie,. the htc desire HD have 4,3" display and 1 ghz cpu while the LG optimus 2x have the same 3.4" display but with dual core cpu and over eBay the price is the same for me, so what to choose HTC or a little cheaper LG ?
And that effects all phone so if you pls can you suggest me some phones and a reason why you have suggested them over other phones.
I prefer bid displays over 4.0" and thin around ~10mm
I am asking since i will buy a phone which will stay with me over several years before i will choose to replace it,
(got stack with Moto Defy with 3 year contract - and its bad .. very bad... )
thank you for any help.
HTC for sure. I believe them to be second best to Samsung phones at this point. All you have to do is look at user reviews.
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Hello,
I want to upgrade my phone to high end android (have been using windows mobile 6.5.3 and android 2.3.7 )
so i have looked over some thing like 20 phones and i could not pick one that will i will be able to like my own child .
The problem is mainly since all the phones have the same price, ie,. the htc desire HD have 4,3" display and 1 ghz cpu while the LG optimus 2x have the same 3.4" display but with dual core cpu and over eBay the price is the same for me, so what to choose HTC or a little cheaper LG ?
And that effects all phone so if you pls can you suggest me some phones and a reason why you have suggested them over other phones.
I prefer bid displays over 4.0" and thin around ~10mm
I am asking since i will buy a phone which will stay with me over several years before i will choose to replace it,
(got stack with Moto Defy with 3 year contract - and its bad .. very bad... )
thank you for any help.
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HTC for sure. I believe them to be second best to Samsung phones at this point. All you have to do is look at user reviews.
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Okay, but does single core 1ghz cpu is real important or i have to buy dual core cpu ?
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Okay, but does single core 1ghz cpu is real important or i have to buy dual core cpu ?
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I would definitely go with a dual core and I would agree that HTC is better than LG. If your going to play any graphic intensive games you definitely need a dual core processor with at least 1G of RAM. A quad core processor is the way to go if your outside the U.S.
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Search xda dev thread for each of your choice, and choose one which has most development that will make it life longer.
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i have tried to search for the best option . like the HTC HD2 which developers just can't get enough of it.
but the phone is old, Galaxy s 1 is way too expansive for a 2 years old phone, and the HTC is a general expensive device.
So i could find only the LG Nitro which is a good phone for its $ .. $470 for a 4.5" HD with dual core cpu and 10mm thick, can't find any thing better..
HTC are mostly fat devices and i can't see any reason why but the thin cost as double as $550 .. and onlt 480-800 res. while the LG is
around 1280x720 res.
see my problem?
Besides it all the phones run Android so there is not problem modding it , and the Nitro have Cyanogen 9.0 support so it should be solid for a while.
mri.project said:
Hello,
I want to upgrade my phone to high end android (have been using windows mobile 6.5.3 and android 2.3.7 )
so i have looked over some thing like 20 phones and i could not pick one that will i will be able to like my own child .
The problem is mainly since all the phones have the same price, ie,. the htc desire HD have 4,3" display and 1 ghz cpu while the LG optimus 2x have the same 3.4" display but with dual core cpu and over eBay the price is the same for me, so what to choose HTC or a little cheaper LG ?
And that effects all phone so if you pls can you suggest me some phones and a reason why you have suggested them over other phones.
I prefer bid displays over 4.0" and thin around ~10mm
I am asking since i will buy a phone which will stay with me over several years before i will choose to replace it,
(got stack with Moto Defy with 3 year contract - and its bad .. very bad... )
thank you for any help.
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Have you heard about mi-two? Google for it to find more information. Generally it looks awesome with 4 cores clocked at 1,5GHz, Adreno320 GPU, 4,3" IPS display with ~340dpi (30% more the iPhone4S) and great battery capacity. The only problem is that it might not be easily available outside China. But if I will be able to get one I will do it without thinking much about it.
The Optimus 2x is a 4 inch 800x480 screen, not 4.3
Anyway, due to ****ty support from LG, prices for it have absolutely tanked.. It's now available from $200-300 outright.
The good news? ICS is coming out very soon for it (rumored). Apparently it's in the testing stage.
So might be a very cheap way for you to get a fairly high end dual core for stuff all money.
dyleck said:
Have you heard about mi-two? Google for it to find more information. Generally it looks awesome with 4 cores clocked at 1,5GHz, Adreno320 GPU, 4,3" IPS display with ~340dpi (30% more the iPhone4S) and great battery capacity. The only problem is that it might not be easily available outside China. But if I will be able to get one I will do it without thinking much about it.
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Xiaomi mi-two $550 preorder now on eBay. it will be cheaper for me to GS III OR HTC ONE X i just don't like these devices - gs iii due to plastic and htc one x due to 16 giga with out micro sd card memory while i use around 40 giga on a phone.
any way i just thought you could suggest me a device and a reason why it is better then LG and so far i see that they are non, i never saw a company which give any support for a phone... so i am not looking for support .
Any way thank you all i have decided to buy the LG device the Nitro - looks great and cheaper then most devices. btw LG is also manufacturing Apple and Samsung mobile parts so i can't see why it should be worth quality.
Buy HTC One X. It is a really cool phone !!!
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What is best for me may not be for you, so there is no such as "best"