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Broken Touch Screen Replacement?

Hello guys,
I from Brazil, and um forum threads and sites here, I'm finding lots of people complaining about how I easy is to get your phone touch screen broked... Like happened to me... =(
It's very hard to found someone to replace, and when it's very expensive when you found, like half the price of the phone!
As I like to do thing by myself, anyone knows a online store to buy a replacement? I was told that I'll need a new lcd and touch, because they are attached together.
Tks!

http://www.etradesupply.com/motorola-moto-g-lcd-screen-and-digitizer-assembly-black.html
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Seems the touch screen issue is pretty much normal lately. Does the touch screen of Moto G has been really easy to get brokened?

It's very easy to get you moto g broken! I read about phone broked after drops from 30cm!
There is a video showing how to disassemble?? Is it easy?

To be honest you might be better off saving yourself the hassle and just buying a new moto g at this point. New screen+digitizer is almost half the price of a new phone.
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Yeah, I have a small crack and a 2 cm scratch already. From what, I don't know. I treated it like royalty.
Turns out that unbreakable and unscratchable screen is both breakable and scratchable....

Well I really can't believe it's that easy to break the screen. One thing for sure, it's not "unbreakable and unscratchable", it's scratch resistant (which simply means that it can survive more than "normal" glass, but it's not something magical).
And how come do you notice that it's broken, if you say you "treated it like royalty"? I mean, it's all OK one time, and the next time you take a look, it's broken? Well that's some magic.

theArchitektas said:
Well I really can't believe it's that easy to break the screen. One thing for sure, it's not "unbreakable and unscratchable", it's scratch resistant (which simply means that it can survive more than "normal" glass, but it's not something magical).
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I'm quite aware of that, but the way they hype this crap, it sounds like it can survived a nuclear holocaust. I've cracked my fair share of digitizers, so I have a fair understanding of how much punishment they can take. And this is one of the weaker ones.
And how come do you notice that it's broken, if you say you "treated it like royalty"? I mean, it's all OK one time, and the next time you take a look, it's broken? Well that's some magic.
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Basically that's what happened. I didn't see anything a day earlier when I cleaned off the screen. I have honestly no idea what happened. The only thing I can think of is that I had my pass card in the same pocket for maybe an hour. But is seriously doubt it can scratch, not to mention crack, a digitizer.
As for how I found it. I was soldering and left the phone next to the soldering station. I pushed the magnifier aside and when I looked back at the phone I saw the crack though the lens. Its minimal, a maybe 1-1.5 mm X shaped crack. Can't even see it without looking for it in direct light. But its there.

How did this phone ever get an IP rating

One of the main reasons I bought a Z3 is because it is apparently dust and water resistant, this is a big plus working in construction, but the fact these phones have recieved IP ratings is a joke. I had my z3 sitting at the side of the shower playing music, it wasn't recieving direct flow of water just droplets splashing on to it. I now have a crackly, low volume speaker. Waterproof my ass.
Have the phone drying out now but I don't expect it to rectify itself. What are my options here?

This issue has been discussed countless times... just let it dry. It'll come back to normal.

its actually water filling up around the speakers and takes a bit to dry out, quite common with waterproof speakers. all my previous sony phones have done this when they get wet, give it 30 minutes or so. dont sweat your phone getting damaged

Does this mean my phone is not waterproof or is it a common problem with all Z3s?

khhhhris said:
its actually water filling up around the speakers and takes a bit to dry out, quite common with waterproof speakers. all my previous sony phones have done this when they get wet, give it 30 minutes or so. dont sweat your phone getting damaged
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Ok thanks for that, I'll use the search before posting in anger next time.

let the phone dry first. the speakers will return back to normal once it gets dry.

Yeah not a problem. Speakers work via vibrations. I can't vibrate when wet

Just use vibrations, and you will become vvet ,)

finty said:
Does this mean my phone is not waterproof or is it a common problem with all Z3s?
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It's not a problem, but a normal characteristic of waterproof speakers.
If you read the user manual they explain that it is normal and can take up to two hours to dry, although in practice that is always 30 mins for me or less.
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when there is water on the membrane which creates the soundwaves this changes how it moves and thus how it sounds. That is just physics @ work and not the fault of sony

Hello, last night i decided to wash myphone under the my shrink. After that also i had low speaker volumes. My lower speaker completly died but after an hour or two came back to live. Now my phone passed 14th hour since i washed it but still the volumed didnt went back to normal. Should i go to Sony Center or wait a little bit longer?

I dropped some baked beans on my Z3 and the sound was muffled for a couple of weeks until I realised I obviously hadn't washed it properly.
Now it's still a lot quieter than the top speaker, but I think that's normal? I'm not sure now, which is annoying.

RTFM before making yourself look clueless
If the speaker or microphone get wet, their function may be impacted until the water
has completely dried. Please note that the drying time can be up to three hours
depending on the environment. During this time, you can, however, use other
features in the device that do not utilise the speaker or microphone. All compatible
accessories, including batteries, chargers, handsfree devices and micro USB cables,
are not waterproof and dust resistant on their own.
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http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/d6603/userguide_EN_D6603_D6653_1_Android4.4.pdf

Pre-flight check xperia (things you should do after unboxing the phone)

In a couple of days ill receive my new xperia z3 , i want to ask you lot about pre-flight check for the device.
how can i check the hardware of the phone ? is there a service menu i can access to check the speaker, screen etc etc ?
and im planning to hold on lollipop for now, just because of the recovery still not working. what do you guys think?

parental92 said:
In a couple of days ill receive my new xperia z3 , i want to ask you lot about pre-flight check for the device.
how can i check the hardware of the phone ? is there a service menu i can access to check the speaker, screen etc etc ?
and im planning to hold on lollipop for now, just because of the recovery still not working. what do you guys think?
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*#*#7378423*#*#* to access the service menu
Recovery does work on lollipop

gregbradley said:
*#*#7378423*#*#* to access the service menu
Recovery does work on lollipop
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already working in lollipop? well then lets flash away ill be digging the forum for that one . also ion LOCKED bootloader? i dont want to unlock the thing . . .
thanks for the info mate, is there anything else i need to know or maybe do after getting the phone ?

parental92 said:
already working in lollipop? well then lets flash away ill be digging the forum for that one . also ion LOCKED bootloader? i dont want to unlock the thing . . .
thanks for the info mate, is there anything else i need to know or maybe do after getting the phone ?
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it depends on what you want to do... I am not asking here, but if you do not know what you want to do who am I to tell you what to do?
Read the forums, anything I can tell you is here already....

parental92 said:
In a couple of days ill receive my new xperia z3 , i want to ask you lot about pre-flight check for the device.
how can i check the hardware of the phone ? is there a service menu i can access to check the speaker, screen etc etc ?
and im planning to hold on lollipop for now, just because of the recovery still not working. what do you guys think?
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make sure to check for built failures
there is a thing called light leak (where the display light is slightly brighter on certain areas, you see that mostly if you put completely withe image on your whole screen and set the brightness to ca. 60%)
other problems could be broken water resistance, you can test this with a waterproof test, it's in the general forum (not sure if that test is really accurate though)
there are more things like build errors in the case on the side of example
or yellow tint on photos of you shoot a white wall..
probably there is more, but thats all i discovered so far

Aronuser said:
make sure to check for built failures
there is a thing called light leak (where the display light is slightly brighter on certain areas, you see that mostly if you put completely withe image on your whole screen and set the brightness to ca. 60%)
other problems could be broken water resistance, you can test this with a waterproof test, it's in the general forum (not sure if that test is really accurate though)
there are more things like build errors in the case on the side of example
or yellow tint on photos of you shoot a white wall..
probably there is more, but thats all i discovered so far
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good stuff there, what im curious now is about the waterproof audio jack.
it does uses hydrophobic coating doesnt it ? to keep the water away. but ill be using the audio jack a lot, by that i mean ill be listening the heck out of this phone. im afraid it will compromise the waterproofing , what do you think?:silly:

parental92 said:
good stuff there, what im curious now is about the waterproof audio jack.
it does uses hydrophobic coating doesnt it ? to keep the water away. but ill be using the audio jack a lot, by that i mean ill be listening the heck out of this phone. im afraid it will compromise the waterproofing , what do you think?:silly:
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Hard to tell if it is resistant, but Sony is known for good quality (even though I wondered about certain built errors on this device)
If Sony did it's job right, it would be water resistant for a few years.
But if you are using if for more than 5 years, I think it's normal it can happen that it breaks.
I didn't create that device so I can hardly tell how resistant the jack is. The device is not so old for now, so people probably didn't experience such thing yet.
One thing you should always make sure is not to dent the jack (possible with pushing the plug to the side whilst it's plugged in), it happened to me on another device, this can demage it fast.
I'd not worry too much for it getting overused, just use your device. Once it's really wearing off already you probably already had 2 other new devices.

Aronuser said:
Hard to tell if it is resistant, but Sony is known for good quality (even though I wondered about certain built errors on this device)
If Sony did it's job right, it would be water resistant for a few years.
But if you are using if for more than 5 years, I think it's normal it can happen that it breaks.
I didn't create that device so I can hardly tell how resistant the jack is. The device is not so old for now, so people probably didn't experience such thing yet.
One thing you should always make sure is not to dent the jack (possible with pushing the plug to the side whilst it's plugged in), it happened to me on another device, this can demage it fast.
I'd not worry too much for it getting overused, just use your device. Once it's really wearing off already you probably already had 2 other new devices.
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yea the device is still new, but ive gone forth and ventured to the z1 forum, and ask them about the water resistance after a period of use, since the z1 have the first open audio jack .
and it turns out fine really, after a year or so , the phone still completely waterproof.
and i was partially wrong about the coating thing, yes they have a coating on the inside of the audio jack, and they also have some kind of membrane to stop water from going in

XZp not so waterproof - usb port vulnerable?

I've been playing around the service menu and tested the Pressure Sensor. In a solid waterproof phone, pressure should remain steady when acted upon by outside forces.
I simply tried to moderately blow some air into the USB port and there's a notable difference. Also removed the sim cap and sucked on the port. Air was clearly passing through.
I'm curious if it's just my phone with this issue in which case I'll replace it, or if it's a design fault, in which case you shouldn't submerge it.
In the screenshots you'll see the pressure difference. So please test this by accessing the service menu *#*#service#*#*, > tests > pressure sensor and simply blow some air into it.
And for the giggles and ranting, there's the sony talk thread https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...s-waterproof/m-p/1237116/highlight/true#M2652

Sebi673 said:
I've been playing around the service menu and tested the Pressure Sensor. In a solid waterproof phone, pressure should remain steady when acted upon by outside forces.
I simply tried moderately blowing some air into the USB port and there's a notable difference. Also removed the sim cap and sucked on the port. Air was clearly passing through.
I'm curious if it's just my phone with this issue in which case I'll replace it, or if it's a design fault, in which case you shouldn't submerge it.
In the screenshots you'll see the presiune difference. So please test this by accessing the service menu *#*#service#*#*, > tests > pressure sensor and simply blow some air into it.
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In Xperia Z3 there was a hole in the lower-left corner that if not covered by hand also let the pressure to drop down.
I think that every phone has to have some kind of a "blow off valve" to prevent internal pressure from rising when the phone heats up to avoid damaging the seals around the screen and the back.
Note that when you cover the usb port pressure stays perfectly stable. The phone is still waterproof it just lets the internals "breathe"

mracer164 said:
In Xperia Z3 there was a hole in the lower-left corner that if not covered by hand also let the pressure to drop down.
I think that every phone has to have some kind of a "blow off valve" to prevent internal pressure from rising when the phone heats up to avoid damaging the seals around the screen and the back.
Note that when you cover the usb port pressure stays perfectly stable. The phone is still waterproof it just lets the internals "breathe"
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It's far more than a simple valve. For example if you have water in the port and you blow some air to take it out, that water will actually go inside the phone. I'm asking because if ever submerged, water pressure will be far grater than my air blowing capabilities ))) so things can get messy pretty fast.
It's far too easy to change the pressure inside it, so all I need to know is if other XZp are behaving the same way or if it's just mine.

Sebi673 said:
It's far more than a simple valve. For example if you have water in the port and you blow some air to take it out, that water will actually go inside the phone. I'm asking because if ever submerged, water pressure will be far grater than my air blowing capabilities ))) so things can get messy pretty fast.
It's far too easy to change the pressure inside it, so all I need to know is if other XZp are behaving the same way or if it's just mine.
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As I said Z3 behaved similarly and I have submerged this phone a couple of times and never had any problems with it. Note that air particles are much more able to squeeze through tight spaces than water.
Same principle aplies to waterproof jackets, they let the air pass through so that you wont get sweaty while at the same time the won't let water go through.

mracer164 said:
As I said Z3 behaved similarly and I have submerged this phone a couple of times and never had any problems with it. Note that air particles are much more able to squeeze through tight spaces than water.
Same principle aplies to waterproof jackets, they let the air pass through so that you wont get sweaty while at the same time the won't let water go through.
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Yes man, I know what a valve is and how it operates in a phone. I've been having xperias for over 5 years. I'm not on Talk.sonymobile, I'm on xda. So if you can try the test whenever you can. All it takes is 1 minute.
I opened this thread because I need to see if mine has those rubber seals too loose or if it's a general and normal thing. I asked for xzp owners to try the test because on my phone air passes virtually unobstructed.

Sebi673 said:
Yes man, I know what a valve is and how it operates in a phone. I've been having xperias for over 5 years. I'm not on Talk.sonymobile, I'm on xda. So if you can try the test whenever you can. All it takes is 1 minute.
I opened this thread because I need to see if mine has those rubber seals too loose or if it's a general and normal thing. I asked for xzp owners to try the test because on my phone air passes virtually unobstructed.
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It works for me exactly the same way as you described. Sorry I didn't mean to patronise you in any way

There is a pressure regulation in every phone. The reason is the battery, in case the battery is defective (see Shamesung Note ), it will produce gas. This gas can later inflame, hence it is important to get it out of the device.

Illux said:
There is a pressure regulation in every phone. The reason is the battery, in case the battery is defective (see Shamesung Note ), it will produce gas. This gas can later inflame, hence it is important to get it out of the device.
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I know, I just spent a lot of money on this thing and I'd rather avoid damaging it. In my opinion that valve is way too lose.
Check this video out, I do not agree with this idiotic test but in the end the phone got water damaged. Vibrator Motor is right next to the USB port which in this video it keeps on vibrating even after device is off.
https://youtu.be/Z3JUGkXXXJw?t=17m52s
I might be a bit paranoid but submerging this phone is not a good idea. Maybe something like this will help https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91LUJPpD45L._SL1500_.jpg

mracer164 said:
It works for me exactly the same way as you described. Sorry I didn't mean to patronise you in any way
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I know, I'm sorry for jumping the gun. Didn't get a full night sleep.
I'm weary because I had Xperia XZ for a week, did the same test but the breathability on the usb port was minimum. Anyway, I'll be careful. My (very) old Xperia Z got water damaged in the pool due to a worn rubber band on the headphone jack. Damage was extensive.

Sebi673 said:
I know, I just spent a lot of money on this thing and I'd rather avoid damaging it. In my opinion that valve is way too lose.
Check this video out, I do not agree with this idiotic test but in the end the phone got water damaged. Vibrator Motor is right next to the USB port which in this video it keeps on vibrating even after device is off.
https://youtu.be/Z3JUGkXXXJw?t=17m52s
I might be a bit paranoid but submerging this phone is not a good idea. Maybe something like this will help https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91LUJPpD45L._SL1500_.jpg
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If damaged by submerging, I'd send it on for guarantee and request a new one. It states IP68 proof, that means 30 minutens fully submerged.
Oh and btw, the guy actually FROZE his phone for 12 hours .

Illux said:
If damaged by submerging, I'd send it on for guarantee and request a new one. It states IP68 proof, that means 30 minutens fully submerged.
Oh and btw, the guy actually FROZE his phone for 12 hours .
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I know.... It's an idiotic test. But leaving that aside, it is compared to another waterproof phone which worked as good as new afterwards. So it's safe too assume that the USB might be letting in a bit more than just data and power.
It's a bit of a letdown, I'll wait for the teardown videos to see if they finally coated the motherboard and other boards against water ingress. Just like you see in the iphone and samsung.

Sebi673 said:
I know.... It's an idiotic test. But leaving that aside, it is compared to another waterproof phone which worked as good as new afterwards. So it's safe too assume that the USB might be letting in a bit more than just data and power.
It's a bit of a letdown, I'll wait for the teardown videos to see if they finally coated the motherboard and other boards against water ingress. Just like you see in the iphone and samsung.
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Well, I'm the kinda guy who tries out things if promised . What I can tell you, my phone spent a fair amount of time submerged already, I always wanted to try out underwater video recording. No real sense in it, but it's fun .
Still working and it's drying real quick.

Illux said:
Well, I'm the kinda guy who tries out things if promised . What I can tell you, my phone spent a fair amount of time submerged already, I always wanted to try out underwater video recording. No real sense in it, but it's fun .
Still working and it's drying real quick.
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I know it's fun, it's even more so when you wash it in the sink in front of people haha. Can you please do me a solid and test the pressure sensor while blowing air into the usb? like I tried - 2 cm away, full lung pressure on the usb, and tell me if that pressure rapidly moves up. It will help me sleep better at night after I wash the thing haha.

Sebi673 said:
I know it's fun, it's even more so when you wash it in the sink in front of people haha. Can you please do me a solid and test the pressure sensor while blowing air into the usb? like I tried - 2 cm away, full lung pressure on the usb, and tell me if that pressure rapidly moves up. It will help me sleep better at night after I wash the thing haha.
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I'll do so in 13 minutes, im currently running a battery test. Just as side note, Amazon Underground seems to drain battery like hell on 7.1.
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Sebi673 said:
I know it's fun, it's even more so when you wash it in the sink in front of people haha. Can you please do me a solid and test the pressure sensor while blowing air into the usb? like I tried - 2 cm away, full lung pressure on the usb, and tell me if that pressure rapidly moves up. It will help me sleep better at night after I wash the thing haha.
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Ok, done. Pressure going up rapidly. Consider it normal.

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I'll do so in 13 minutes, im currently running a battery test. Just as side note, Amazon Underground seems to drain battery like hell on 7.1.
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Ok, done. Pressure going up rapidly. Consider it normal.
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YAY!!!! Paranoid Parrot now returning to its cage :victory:

Mine does the same

I have the same problem and my xzp had water damaged,they changed me a new one which still have this problem....I will not try twice.Maybe this is a manufacturing problem.

sonyisall said:
I have the same problem and my xzp had water damaged,they changed me a new one which still have this problem....I will not try twice.Maybe this is a manufacturing problem.
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It's a design flaw then..... I'll buy the usb silicon caps just to be extra safe.... Shame they didn't manage to build this properly.....

Forgive me my ignorance. I know it's stupid question and I know answer will be yes, but it's always worth double checking.
So I can submerge xz premium without any usb/jack and other ports covers as they were just designed to be able to handle that?

SUPERSLEDZ said:
Forgive me my ignorance. I know it's stupid question and I know answer will be yes, but it's always worth double checking.
So I can submerge xz premium without any usb/jack and other ports covers as they were just designed to be able to handle that?
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Yes, that is the idea behind IP68 certification. I dumped my phone in the pool yesterday, just for fun. Just PLEASE make sure to dry the phone before charging it. I know that sounds stupid but there is some photos around of ppl claiming their devices just started burning. Due to the nature of energy transport in USB-C 3.1, that is almost impossible - unless you short-circuit it with water .

Need urgent HELP plz.

Hi all...
Could you check one thing for me pls?
Put your OP6 on a hard surface like a study table(mine is made of wood) and charge it. Take off any case etc. Also without any shoes or slippers etc.
Then run your fingers along the sides i.e. along the metal frame while it's charging.
Do you feel like a hint of current/electricity on your fingers?
I feel like the minutest of minute vibration while running my fingers.
But only when it's on a hard surface.
When I hold it in my hands, I don't feel anything.
Please kindly do this test and tell me.
Thank you.

Xebeck said:
Hi all...
Could you check one thing for me pls?
Put your OP6 on a hard surface like a study table(mine is made of wood) and charge it. Take off any case etc. Also without any shoes or slippers etc.
Then run your fingers along the sides i.e. along the metal frame while it's charging.
Do you feel like a hint of current/electricity on your fingers?
I feel like the minutest of minute vibration while running my fingers.
But only when it's on a hard surface.
When I hold it in my hands, I don't feel anything.
Please kindly do this test and tell me.
Thank you.
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Just tested it the way your described me too and didn't notice anything. Wooden desk as well.

Solution6996 said:
Just tested it the way your described me too and didn't notice anything. Wooden desk as well.
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Thanks..
But were you bare feet...
Without shoes or slippers... With slippers on, I don't feel anything as well...
And while running the fingers along the Metal frame/side.
Cheers

are you licking a 9V battery with your other hand?

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are you licking a 9V battery with your other hand?
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Was that a joke?
Of course not, I wasn't...

That happens with MacBook too! I mean thats electrical discharge / leakage. Thats pretty normal. You might get a minor shock if you lick the metallic contacts or if the same comes in contact with your sensitive areas like elbow, belly and below that
Relax!

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That happens with MacBook too! I mean thats electrical discharge / leakage. Thats pretty normal. You might get a minor shock if you lick the metallic contacts or if the same comes in contact with your sensitive areas like elbow, belly and below that
Relax!
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So do I need to replace it...

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So do I need to replace it...
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Not at all.

Same happens on my OP3, but it stopped after few months randomly. I think you shouldn't get the replacament unit, or at least i didn't because i don't live in a country that oneplus is officially selling devices, if you do and it's not much pida, go ahead, but you might get the same resultl lol

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Not at all.
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Imotep95 said:
Same happens on my OP3, but it stopped after few months randomly. I think you shouldn't get the replacament unit, or at least i didn't because i don't live in a country that oneplus is officially selling devices, if you do and it's not much pida, go ahead, but you might get the same resultl lol
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Basically
I just wanna know if this extra current can affect my OP6 or not?
Like battery life or circuits in the mother board etc...
Cheers

I got it replaced and it's working fine now...