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For those on Verizon who are upset about the locked bootloader...

On a whim I sent Verizon a message asking about the locked bootloader for the Verizon
My original message just to clear things up:
I just recently received my Galaxy S3 which I pre-ordered from
Verizon. I was wondering if you could provide me with any
information on the locked boot loader that Verizon put on my
device. Is there a way I could unlock it? Can you provide a key or
a tool that I could use to unlock my device? I know that Samsung
released a developer edition for the Galaxy S3 but I am confused
on why Verizon would maintain their lock on the phone.
Any information on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
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And got an interesting reply back:
Thank you for contacting Verizon Wireless about the boot loader for the Galaxy S3. I know this may be frustrating but there will be a solution soon coming.
Samsung will be releasing a software update to unlock your device.
Right now, we do not have a date for the release but it shall be soon.
Verizon Wireless appreciates you as a customer and your patience in this matter.
Have a great weekend!
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Can anyone else back this up? This is the first I am hearing of it.
Edit: Screenshot of the email mentioned above.
http://i.imgur.com/ULA4X.png
Edit 2: Verizon just got in contact with me and confirmed that their previous message that they sent me (see above) was indeed about the global usage unlock and not about the boot loader. He also said that there is no work being done right now to unlock the boot loader on the SGS3. Although, he did suggest that they may revisit their decision down the road (as in several months from now) and possibly work up a patch.

I am intrigued, yet highly skeptical.
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CBMC said:
I am intrigued, yet highly skeptical.
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Exactly, although I think this is a bit better than Panda saying he has the unlock keys. Still, not going to get my hopes quite yet...

They want you to think the upcoming update is a unlock, but it will really lock it down even tighter! LoL
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Did anyone ever think Verizon locked down this phone because they want to push their variant as an enterprise device? This is the only one I believe that came with the vpnclient app.
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CBMC said:
I am intrigued, yet highly skeptical.
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This.

Why would Sammy sell a dev variant if verizon is just going to unlock their phones? Just doesn't make sense

show screenshot of the email please

You think maybe all the negative press combined with their inability to stop Samsung from releasing the dev version that could be a key to unlocking anyways which would make them look even worse and heavy handed combined to make them want to change it.
Honestly just hopeful thinking, but it would sure make me a happy camper.
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If Verizon wants to heavily compete with the dev edition, they will release an unlock tool

I emailed Verizon a few days ago. I got the standard "we're looking into it" response.
Today I got an email from them saying that they were happy to hear my issue was resolved. I figured this was just their ****ty customer service but now I might be in conspiracy mode.
Dun dun dun
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Juicy92 said:
If Verizon wants to heavily compete with the dev edition, they will release an unlock tool
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There will be no competition, at least from a sales standpoint. Verizon will easily outsell Samsung. 99% of people either don't care about a locked bootloader or can't afford/justify the unsubsidized pricing. If they did unlock it, it would be a pr move. (or legal) Now I definitely expect the dev model to attract higher prices on ebay, craigslist, etc.
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Maybe the email was just a stupid CSR who thought you were referring to SIM unlocking. doesn't make sense that Samsung would be releasing that instead of Verizon though
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CBMC said:
There will be no competition, at least from a sales standpoint. Verizon will easily outsell Samsung. 99% of people either don't care about a locked bootloader or can't afford/justify the unsubsidized pricing. If they did unlock it, it would be a pr move. (or legal) Now I definitely expect the dev model to attract higher prices on ebay, craigslist, etc.
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This ^

AftermathLK said:
show screenshot of the email please
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As requested. All I did was black out my personal info. Sadly I'm under 10 posts so all I can do is attach the file. Lemme get to 10 and I can post a better one.

cordell12 said:
They want you to think the upcoming update is a unlock, but it will really lock it down even tighter! LoL
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I wouldn't be surprised about this.

Kipland007 said:
I emailed Verizon a few days ago. I got the standard "we're looking into it" response.
Today I got an email from them saying that they were happy to hear my issue was resolved. I figured this was just their ****ty customer service but now I might be in conspiracy mode.
Dun dun dun
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Maybe they made some progress...

killerabbit37 said:
As requested. All I did was black out my personal info. Sadly I'm under 10 posts so all I can do is attach the file. Lemme get to 10 and I can post a better one.
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Thank you, now I'm curious lol

killerabbit37 said:
Maybe they made some progress...
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I guess then the question will be who gets the bounty? Donation to Verizon anyone?
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Kipland007 said:
I guess then the question will be who gets the bounty? Donation to Verizon anyone?
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me for putting the pressure on them with my petition. j/k

ATRIX 2 ICS soak test about to start....

Just got this email:
"Here is part of it:
"Thanks for joining the Motorola Feedback Network. We are inviting owners of the Motorola ATRIX 2 to participate in a preview of a new software release, and provide feedback. If you are not currently using a MOTOROLA ATRIX 2, please excuse and ignore this email.
If you wish to take part. There are a quite a number of interested users, so please respond as quickly as possible as it is open until evening of 7/29/12.
Here is your unique survey link...."
I guess ICS is on the way.

Right around the corner!
Sent from my MB865

Is the OTA that soak test participant's get the same as the final release, or do they usually make tweeks between soak test and final release?

Usually a final release unless the testers find any major bugs.
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Waiting4MyAndroid said:
Just got this email:
"Here is part of it:
"Thanks for joining the Motorola Feedback Network. We are inviting owners of the Motorola ATRIX 2 to participate in a preview of a new software release, and provide feedback. If you are not currently using a MOTOROLA ATRIX 2, please excuse and ignore this email.
If you wish to take part. There are a quite a number of interested users, so please respond as quickly as possible as it is open until evening of 7/29/12.
Here is your unique survey link...."
I guess ICS is on the way.
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Got the same E-Mail early this morning and I completed the survey :fingers-crossed:

I received the same invite too. When completing the survey it asked if I rooted my phone and after saying yes, it asked if I was willing to go back to stock for testing. Not sure if that exempts us from the test group. Good thing it didn't ask if I was already testing the ICS leak that is installed on my phone.
Question for the DEVs.... Once we download the update.... Should we post it for you for guys? (in case any of you are not in the group selected)
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burninggecko said:
I received the same invite to. When completing the survey it asked if I rooted my phone and after saying yes, it asked if I was willing to go back to stock for testing. Not sure if that exempts us from the test group. Good thing it didn't ask if I was already testing the ICS leak that is installed on my phone.
Question for the DEVs.... Once we download the update.... Should we post it for you for guys? (in case any of you are not in the group selected)
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In order to qualify for the soak test you had to agree to keep it confidential. That means not even talking about if you were invited on any forum and includes giving the update to any other person (it is a big no no). If you do that you are in violation of the NCA you agreed to. Having said that at the end of the survey it should have told you if you were included in the soak group or not. If you qualified based on your answers it would tell you so. If it did not say you would be included in the soak test and if you wanted to factory reset to do it immediately, then you most likely did not qualify. Having a rooted phone and restoring it to stock most likely does not preclude you from being included in the test. Moto wants all scenarios tested including previously rooted phones and people running an AT&T phone on a another network. If the soak test is successful the OTA should start going out to the public in about five to ten days after the soak test begins.

burninggecko said:
I received the same invite too. When completing the survey it asked if I rooted my phone and after saying yes, it asked if I was willing to go back to stock for testing. Not sure if that exempts us from the test group. Good thing it didn't ask if I was already testing the ICS leak that is installed on my phone.
Question for the DEVs.... Once we download the update.... Should we post it for you for guys? (in case any of you are not in the group selected)
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I too am a bit confused. Now at the 4.0.4 leak, I too have received the soak invite.
However, since the leak is running so well on my phone, I am hesitant to jump in for a soak if you will.
Instead, I think this is what I am going to do. Wait for the full ICS OTA to come out. Wait for our pros to get their feet wet a bit more with our new fxz thread that has sprung up, and finally, wait and see if those of us running the leak can get to the OTA ICS when it is released. From what I have read now, there is a bit of nebulous information on whether it will ever be possible due to one particular part of the fxz process. I encourage you all to read the threads and *cough* soak it all in so you understand.
Until then, I'm not fixing my phone, as with the 4.0.4 leak its certainly not broken like it was with 2.3.6, and I will be patient. I know its exciting to be a soak tester, though based on scar tissue from having to fxz when Moto soak tested 2.3.6, I am just going to sit and wait. Perhaps those of us on 4.0.4 leak should do the same until the trained professionals see what we have to work with when the OTA ICS is released.

seedoubleyou said:
I too am a bit confused. Now at the 4.0.4 leak, I too have received the soak invite.
However, since the leak is running so well on my phone, I am hesitant to jump in for a soak if you will.
Instead, I think this is what I am going to do. Wait for the full ICS OTA to come out. Wait for our pros to get their feet wet a bit more with our new fxz thread that has sprung up, and finally, wait and see if those of us running the leak can get to the OTA ICS when it is released. From what I have read now, there is a bit of nebulous information on whether it will ever be possible due to one particular part of the fxz process. I encourage you all to read the threads and *cough* soak it all in so you understand.
Until then, I'm not fixing my phone, as with the 4.0.4 leak its certainly not broken like it was with 2.3.6, and I will be patient. I know its exciting to be a soak tester, though based on scar tissue from having to fxz when Moto soak tested 2.3.6, I am just going to sit and wait. Perhaps those of us on 4.0.4 leak should do the same until the trained professionals see what we have to work with when the OTA ICS is released.
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My guess is that that leak was so close to the soak test that it has a fairly high chance of being identical to the soak test and final release. Wait for the soak test to begin and see what version people are running (if they will violate the NCA and tell you). If you have the same version then you are already good to go. If not then you would need to restore your phone somehow to stock 2.3.6 in order to install the final OTA update as it most likely will not validate being installed over a leak.

Is there any way you can up the soak to a filehosting site?

jboxer said:
My guess is that that leak was so close to the soak test that it has a fairly high chance of being identical to the soak test and final release. Wait for the soak test to begin and see what version people are running (if they will violate the NCA and tell you). If you have the same version then you are already good to go. If not then you would need to restore your phone somehow to stock 2.3.6 in order to install the final OTA update as it most likely will not validate being installed over a leak.
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Wrong!! AT&T and Moto have fixed several of the issues that have we have seen in this leak. Remember the leak we have is from july 6th. The soak will be a new build as of most likely last week from my sources.
Also all this NCA buisness... do you really think that everyone in the soak is going to keep this from us? I got the 2.3.6 soak the day it came out and released to well our only other dev then lfaber06, and we had 2.3.6 roms and patches out to everyone that week. I still have never released who gave it to me, unless those people want the credit.
Also you WILL HAVE to be on 2.3.6 for the SOAK files to work, the install will work just exactly like the leak did. We also now have a way back to 2.3.6, and I will release a script and all the files tomorrow so that those in the leak can do this.

Gotcha... I know it said I made it, but was flipping through the screens as I was running out of the house. Thanks for the clarification and info on the non disclosure.
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There wasn't much to fix was there?

jimbridgman said:
Wrong!! AT&T and Moto have fixed several of the issues that have we have seen in this leak. Remember the leak we have is from july 6th. The soak will be a new build as of most likely last week from my sources.
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Jim, what is your guess as to the odds the leak will be able to update to the soak test software?

farshad525hou said:
Is there any way you can up the soak to a filehosting site?
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People can technically do that but to participate in the soak test they have to agree to an NCA (Non Disclosure Agreement) where it specifically prohibits talking about the soak test and sharing the OTA files with anyone. So if they do that they violate the NCA they agreed to to be part of the soak test. I think the logic behind that is even though the soak is probably the final release if there is a major bug or bricking issue they don't want it to spread behind the targeted soak test pool of users.
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Jim, what is your guess as to the odds the leak will be able to update to the soak test software?
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The soak files will validate whether people are updated to stock 2.3.6 and maybe 2.3.5. It most likely won't have the hashes to validate the system files in the leak so the probability of that is most likely nil. Stock, signed OTA files check every file in the system with hashcodes (either mda or shasum usually) to make sure they are stock. If every file is not stock the OTA will refuse to update the phone. So if you are on the leak it will most likely refuse to install.

It will be interesting to see what clock speed the CPU runs at in the soak / final update.

I got a invite for the soak testing too. I have no idea as to how i could of gotten that because I've never registered with moto.
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tmease1 said:
I got a invite for the soak testing too. I have no idea as to how i could of gotten that because I've never registered with moto.
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It is sent to selected members of Moto Owner's forum that also filled in their model, IMEI and carrier info. That registers you for the Motorola Feedback Network. If you did not do that then there is no way they would have sent you an invite to the soak test.

jboxer said:
The soak files will validate whether people are updated to stock 2.3.6 and maybe 2.3.5. It most likely won't have the hashes to validate the system files in the leak so the probability of that is most likely nil. Stock, signed OTA files check every file in the system with hashcodes (either mda or shasum usually) to make sure they are stock. If every file is not stock the OTA will refuse to update the phone. So if you are on the leak it will most likely refuse to install.
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Again, as I said before. this is wrong. The SOAK is just like an OTA and will be linux patch files ONLY!!! There is no check to see if you are on a leak to see if you are on ICS or not, just a check of the signatures on the files they plan to patch, again not EVERY file. The cheks are md5 of ONLY the files they are going to patch, so that they know that the patch will take.
We have seen these before, and dealt with them before here in the A2 forum.

jboxer said:
It is sent to selected members of Moto Owner's forum that also filled in their model, IMEI and carrier info. That registers you for the Motorola Feedback Network. If you did not do that then there is no way they would have sent you an invite to the soak test.
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I have not and will not fill out any info with moto and yes i did get a email about participating in the soak test. So yes there is a way somehow.
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Is root hopeless?

First off, I'm totally new to these forums and I'm not sure if I'm doing this right.
Anyway, I just got my S6 2 days ago and I stupidly downloaded the latest update without checking if root was possible. I'm on AOF1. Is there any possibility for downgrading / rooting in the future?
Thanks
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As of right now, yes I believe your chances of root is hopeless unfortunately. Maybe after we obtain 5.1.1 update, hopefully.

hemenge133 said:
First off, I'm totally new to these forums and I'm not sure if I'm doing this right.
Anyway, I just got my S6 2 days ago and I stupidly downloaded the latest update without checking if root was possible. I'm on AOF1. Is there any possibility for downgrading / rooting in the future?
Thanks
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Can you tell me what the lottery numbers are next week? Can anyone? No one on this site AFAIK can predict or see into the future. No one has any idea if someone has an exploit that they are working on or even finishing up. Kingroot 4.1 just popped up out of the blue and is allowing some Verizon devices on 5.01 ro be rooted...no one knew the day before it was released. It is ludicrous to say anything is impossible and will never happen in the phone world.

KennyG123 said:
Can you tell me what the lottery numbers are next week? Can anyone? No one on this site AFAIK can predict or see into the future. No one has any idea if someone has an exploit that they are working on or even finishing up. Kingroot 4.1 just popped up out of the blue and is allowing some Verizon devices on 5.01 ro be rooted...no one knew the day before it was released. It is ludicrous to say anything is impossible and will never happen in the phone world.
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My god, this community is toxic. People like you make it impossible to ask a simple question.
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Patience, all it takes is patience. Chances of a KNOX non-tripping root its much less likely, but root will most likely show up.

I'm with you on this, i hate that there is no root available for the phones running AOF1 update, i badly want to root my phone, and wish the was a method available :/

To everyone who is on OF1...unless you bought the phone with that update on it, it is your fault you don't have root. You broke the cardinal rule of this community. Never accept an update from the carrier. No excuses. Please stop crying
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hopesrequiem said:
To everyone who is on OF1...unless you bought the phone with that update on it, it is your fault you don't have root. You broke the cardinal rule of this community. Never accept an update from the carrier. No excuses. Please stop crying
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yeah i get what your saying, i just got the S6, never really needed to Root, but after seeing the massive amounts of bloat they add, i figured it was time to look into options, hopefully something comes along to give me Root, for the time being it is what it is.. lol

hemenge133 said:
My god, this community is toxic. People like you make it impossible to ask a simple question.
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Sorry...I missed the "simple" question...didn't see any in your post..If you check my post history, I got where I am by answering dozens of questions per day.

KennyG123 said:
Sorry...I missed the "simple" question...didn't see any in your post..If you check my post history, I got where I am by answering dozens of questions per day.
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Good one. Can we end the pissing match?
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hemenge133 said:
Good one. Can we end the pissing match?
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Sure
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[REQ]Motorola Android 6.0 Soak Test

Hi. Me and the other developers have been trying to get our hands on the new Android 6.0 boot.img. If anyone is running the soak test people please PM me.
Thanks
Shawn

Did they actually start the soak test, or is it still the test drive?

Does it benefit you that much to have a pre release version? If you want to make roms, why wouldn't you wait until the final version of the software is released? I know that, usually, a soak is very similar to a final release (and who knows with these "test drives"), but not always. And since the 5.0 botched release caused several problems, why wouldn't you wait?

None of us got it. Unless the few people who beta-tested it not (soak tested) it.

Its against NDA so no one will bother
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Hard to believe that no one was able to post an anonymous review of some sort..

droidrage2010 said:
Hard to believe that no one was able to post an anonymous review of some sort..
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Could be that no one has it. Remember it is a small test group that got it. Soak is not live yet (maybe). Plus people agreed to be quiet about it so even if we got an invite it wont be public. Either way we all will have fun in a few weeks

droidrage2010 said:
Hard to believe that no one was able to post an anonymous review of some sort..
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Its going to be stock android 6 + moto assist, and android 6 is a refinement of the already stable android 5.1.
Want to know what it will be like? Watch this and imagine there is a moto assist app in the app drawer
https://youtu.be/MBx-R2RsFdU

LOL. Thanks. Already familiar with MM from my N6, more curious about the specifics of MM on the MXPE test drive, such as stability, doze improvements on our hardware, completeness, etc

Shawn5162 said:
Android 6.0 boot.img.
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Please just STFU and stop producing hot air if you have not much clue. I marked in red and bold what the only thing is Shawn was asking for which is completely different to what you babble about.

schaggo said:
Please just STFU and stop producing hot air if you have not much clue. I marked in red and bold what the only thing is Shawn was asking for which is completely different to what you babble about.
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THANK YOU...At least someone understood my request

I'm beginning to think the soak test was just a tease. I filed out the forms several weeks ago and I've seen nothing.
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joshw0000 said:
I'm beginning to think the soak test was just a tease. I filed out the forms several weeks ago and I've seen nothing.
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Well it was too prepare. They want to get a mostly stable version before they push it to the super soakers to make sure the 5.0 bricking disaster doesn't happen again. From what I have read we do NOT want them to rush things. Once it is safe the soakers will get it and then everyone. As long as it is within a month I do not mind if it means smooth and mostly bug free
I welcome the caution of Motorola. Or maybe they are already soak testing but the group members are so good they are keeping it on the DL

joshuadjohnson22 said:
Well it was too prepare. They want to get a mostly stable version before they push it to the super soakers to make sure the 5.0 bricking disaster doesn't happen again. From what I have read we do NOT want them to rush things. Once it is safe the soakers will get it and then everyone. As long as it is within a month I do not mind if it means smooth and mostly bug free
I welcome the caution of Motorola. Or maybe they are already soak testing but the group members are so good they are keeping it on the DL
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5.0 bricking disaster?
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joshw0000 said:
5.0 bricking disaster?
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apparently they had a mess on their hands and they had to unlock their bootloaders and do all this stuff to fix their devices. Not sure all the details but I'm sure some users can testify to how messy it was.

joshuadjohnson22 said:
apparently they had a mess on their hands and they had to unlock their bootloaders and do all this stuff to fix their devices. Not sure all the details but I'm sure some users can testify to how messy it was.
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You're talking about a different Motorola phone? Or 5.0 in general?
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joshw0000 said:
You're talking about a different Motorola phone? Or 5.0 in general?
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Basically, I forget where I read it but they had lots of issues at first. I would rather them get those worked out. We will know within a few weeks

joshuadjohnson22 said:
Basically, I forget where I read it but they had lots of issues at first. I would rather them get those worked out. We will know within a few weeks
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I can restore if I soft brick. I'd rather play around with it. No different than flashing a beta rom.
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joshw0000 said:
You're talking about a different Motorola phone? Or 5.0 in general?
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joshuadjohnson22 said:
Basically, I forget where I read it but they had lots of issues at first. I would rather them get those worked out. We will know within a few weeks
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I can confirm the 5.0 disaster ... It was Lollipop massacre ... It happened on the Moto G (First Gen), one of the first moto device to receive the lollipop update through Soak test ... the image was leaked and people started flashing them, there were some minor bugs in the image, and whenever people tried to get to stable kitkat, or stock Rom in order to get official update their phone got permanently bricked ...
There are major changes in the Bootloader during the major android updates, so it's best to take precautions and wait patiently till someone confirms a proper procedure .

I can confirm the soak test isn't fake.
Didn't want to share this whatever.
Added HD Calling
Added Wifi Calling
Added Band 12 support
Visual voicemail not built into the dialer app

Skip update in setup wizard?

Is there any way to skip the update during setup? I need DePixel8 to work and my verizon pixel comes after december 7th (i think thats when the next security patch comes out). Can you use adb in recovery? that might work.

whowatchlist said:
Is there any way to skip the update during setup? I need DePixel8 to work and my verizon pixel comes after december 7th (i think thats when the next security patch comes out). Can you use adb in recovery? that might work.
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Pull your SIM card before powering on and skip wifi setup.

911medic01 said:
Pull your SIM card before powering on and skip wifi setup.
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Nope, ain't gonna work. You have to log in to continue.

DePixel may work with the update.. .it did for the last one.
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Just a guess but I tend to agree.
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bobby janow said:
Nope, ain't gonna work. You have to log in to continue.
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To continue to full setup, but not to depixel8.

911medic said:
To continue to full setup, but not to depixel8.
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You sure about that? I thought you needed to adb depixel8 and if so, then how can you get the phone recognized in order to issue adb commands without logging in? To wit, usb debugging in developer options. Now I do suppose you can deny the update but I'm not even sure about that. Doesn't it automatically download and install before you can do anything?
I'm guessing the point is moot because the December update will not block depixel8? We'll know tomorrow.

bobby janow said:
You sure about that? I thought you needed to adb depixel8 and if so, then how can you get the phone recognized in order to issue adb commands without logging in? To wit, usb debugging in developer options. Now I do suppose you can deny the update but I'm not even sure about that. Doesn't it automatically download and install before you can do anything?
I'm guessing the point is moot because the December update will not block depixel8? We'll know tomorrow.
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It has been discussed in the Pixel XL unlock thread. Here is one (well, two really) example. See the last paragraph of the quoted post, and the post itself where the poster states it worked: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69431522&postcount=1043
You don't need to log in to boot the phone.
There are other statements in that long thread where people say they have done this, if you choose to find them. I have not done it myself, so I am just going by what others have said.

911medic said:
It has been discussed in the Pixel XL unlock thread. Here is one (well, two really) example. See the last paragraph of the quoted post, and the post itself where the poster states it worked: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69431522&postcount=1043
You don't need to log in to boot the phone.
There are other statements in that long thread where people say they have done this, if you choose to find them. I have not done it myself, so I am just going by what others have said.
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Wow what a crazy thread, thanks for keeping me busy for the last 2 hours reading it. December update is out now and Depixel8 is now patched and does not work any longer. I'm still reading that thread and getting conflicting information as to what will happen upon booting either with or without the sim in. I'll come back if I find out anything definitive. I might head over to IRC and ask directly. (doing that now, let's see if anyone answers freenode #googlepixel)
edit: I do believe you can bypass the setup without a sim or wifi. So back to the OP question, I'm not sure when the vzw version will start shipping with 7.1.1 but if you get it with the older patch and you want to unlock you better be careful and get it done right away.

bobby janow said:
Wow what a crazy thread, thanks for keeping me busy for the last 2 hours reading it. December update is out now and Depixel8 is now patched and does not work any longer. I'm still reading that thread and getting conflicting information as to what will happen upon booting either with or without the sim in. I'll come back if I find out anything definitive. I might head over to IRC and ask directly. (doing that now, let's see if anyone answers freenode #googlepixel)
edit: I do believe you can bypass the setup without a sim or wifi. So back to the OP question, I'm not sure when the vzw version will start shipping with 7.1.1 but if you get it with the older patch and you want to unlock you better be careful and get it done right away.
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Yeah, that thread is quite the rabbit hole. But quite a few good nuggets of info dispersed through it.

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Yeah, that thread is quite the rabbit hole. But quite a few good nuggets of info dispersed through it.
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Yeah, JCase is/was very active for a while. Has degraded into the same questions over and over at this point though. I love when a mod comes in and has to clean the thread. Tells me I missed some fireworks. At this point those that don't have the device (Verizon) are starting to freak a little with the Dec update out now. But really if they are that concerned just buy a Google variety and you can always unlock that. I do realize that some people have upgrades etc. and as for me, I paid $240 on the Black Friday deal so I'm stuck. Well not really, but I'm not unlocking so I really don't care what they do with the bootloader.
I presume someone will start a thread about the update, but I haven't received it yet. I downloaded the full ota image but I'll hold off for a few more hours.

bobby janow said:
Yeah, JCase is/was very active for a while. Has degraded into the same questions over and over at this point though. I love when a mod comes in and has to clean the thread. Tells me I missed some fireworks. At this point those that don't have the device (Verizon) are starting to freak a little with the Dec update out now. But really if they are that concerned just buy a Google variety and you can always unlock that. I do realize that some people have upgrades etc. and as for me, I paid $240 on the Black Friday deal so I'm stuck. Well not really, but I'm not unlocking so I really don't care what they do with the bootloader.
I presume someone will start a thread about the update, but I haven't received it yet. I downloaded the full ota image but I'll hold off for a few more hours.
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Yeah, I got mine on BF, too. But I did go ahead and unlock the BL, after I confirmed the phone worked as expected. I have not changed the recovery or rooted at this point. Just running stock/unlocked for now. I believe that I should still get the OTA, since I'm not rooted and haven't changed recoveries, but we'll see. No sign of it yet.

Booting to twrp and starting a side load will get adb working. Had to do this just the other day to push a file.
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I guess we just pray for the best. The last 2 patches went out on the 7th so just extrapolation. The real problem is if you get an updated one or not.

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To continue to full setup, but not to depixel8.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=69948158. This is what I was afraid of.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=69948158. This is what I was afraid of.
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Hmm. Conflicting reports.

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Hmm. Conflicting reports.
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Yes, and it's serious if you want to unlock. I think we'll just have to wait for a new vzw Pixel user to confirm either way. I got sick of waiting and sideloaded the ota.
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tough luck

I can tell you for sure you can skip everything in setup.
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I can tell you for sure you can skip everything in setup.
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How? I'm going to get a replacement pixel tomorrow. I did a few factory resets but I don't remember seeing a way to skip through setup. Right after the activation screen it went to the software update screen. Im gonna factory reset in a little bit but I'm not sure it would help test because I'm already on 7.1.1
Would reallt SUCK if I got a replacement on 7.1 and the setup installed 7.1.1 before I could unlock