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Jelly Bean vs. Gingerbread

I just wan´t to collect some Opinions which one you like more.
sorry for my bad english

Is this serious surly JB is more and more better then GB.

GB is more stable than JB. If you are a gamer, i advice you to stay on GB
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For now, GB is noticeably faster than JB when it comes to games/navigating around menus.
On JB navigating through the system settings is pretty horrible, takes 1-1,5 seconds to get from one tab to another.
JB is more modern though, looks nicer, has a better notification bar, supports more apps.
I'd wait for an official, unbranded JB release before switching over.

No! GB is not beter than JB. When you have right settings on it , it runs few times better than GB. Definitely recommend to flash on JB
Ps. Best for now - MC8 + Italian Job + Supercharger V6 + removed bloatwares + DISABLE AUTO ADJUST SCREEN TONE ( in settings - display, this fix is for lag in games used on leaked versions and some new users don't know about it)

for me
gingerbread is alot better for gaming
but tooo ugly
the jellybean is opposite
weak in gaming and very nice

buhaha GB better in gaming...yeah go for it! Instal GB and come play with me in Shadowgun Deadzone or run Vice Ciy on full...GB have better ram management (now...) but gpu and cpu on GB is 50% slower.
No? Instal RD 3D benchmark. On GB ALLWAYS ON ALL ROMS you get 30fps overal score.
On JB you get 42-45 fps overal score and lern use fps.meter.
I have check some games in that same place/situation and ALLWAYS on JB is more fps. You can feel only droops because ram is not good now on JB but properly settings solved that problems for me.

michal89chz said:
buhaha GB better in gaming...yeah go for it! Instal GB and come play with me in Shadowgun Deadzone or run Vice Ciy on full...GB have better ram management (now...) but gpu and cpu on GB is 50% slower.
No? Instal RD 3D benchmark. On GB ALLWAYS ON ALL ROMS you get 30fps overal score.
On JB you get 42-45 fps overal score and lern use fps.meter.
I have check some games in that same place/situation and ALLWAYS on JB is more fps. You can feel only droops because ram is not good now on JB but properly settings solved that problems for me.
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Are we have different devices? I am always getting lags on ui also ram hunger games.
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Ram in games...sometimes are problems if you have less free ram but fps/s is a LOT better on JB
Try on GB with fps meter: Dead Triger on max, Vice city on max and Most Wanted and than on Italian Job 1.0.0 (with fps meter) You will see big deferences on JB+)

Praying for better fitted JB. ZTE blade gets 7k on antutu benchmark but we can't. ZTE is 600 mhz single core. Ace 2 800 mhz dual core. It makes me insane !!
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michal89chz said:
buhaha GB better in gaming...yeah go for it! Instal GB and come play with me in Shadowgun Deadzone or run Vice Ciy on full...GB have better ram management (now...) but gpu and cpu on GB is 50% slower.
No? Instal RD 3D benchmark. On GB ALLWAYS ON ALL ROMS you get 30fps overal score.
On JB you get 42-45 fps overal score and lern use fps.meter.
I have check some games in that same place/situation and ALLWAYS on JB is more fps. You can feel only droops because ram is not good now on JB but properly settings solved that problems for me.
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what are the properly settings that can solve ram problems?
please tell us

...because zte blade run another one test hehehehe armv6 have not that sam test like armv7(b) Our device can get 20k on that test...why you compare so slow phone to ours in so bad benchmarks like quadrant/antutu. We have only one good benchmark (Rd3d) because that benchmark allways show that same framerate! Our one core is ~2 times faster than Zte blade. I had that phone before and I know what he can do after OC to 720/760 and CM7 and ...that phone have only good TFT(800/480) If you want you can get on zte blade 5k in quadrant after JIT becaus then quadrant generate bugs in graphics (all is white) DONT USE THAT BENCHMARKS to compare devices. Simply- stock S2 have in Quadrant 3k. Our phone have now on JB 2900+ so my device is fast like S2? NO.

Oh i dont know that point.
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S2 have similar score without OC .And what? My Ace 2 Is fast like S2? (...) No! Is ~2 times slower on GPU and ~1-1,5 times slower on CPU…

And we have better score than nexus
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If you have lags on JB in games try this:
1. Instal Kyrillosv7b (for MB4) or Italian Job v1 (for MC8)
2. Disable Auto adjust screen tone (Settings-screen)
3. Instal Supercharger for better ram management
4. Delete all bloadware apps (there is list somewhere)

michal89chz said:
S2 have similar score without OC .And what? My Ace 2 Is fast like S2? (...) No! Is ~2 times slower on GPU and ~1-1,5 times slower on CPU…
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i try quadrant i get 2433
its very different from yours
im running jb ij 1.0.0
any solution?

samer menla said:
i try quadrant i get 2433
its very different from yours
im running jb ij 1.0.0
any solution?
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Stock firmware?
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abdulkadiro said:
Stock firmware?
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mc8 with italian job running nexus theme
thats all
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This is ok. That old Nexus is litle bit slower than Ace 2 on GPU because have higher res. and older ,slower one I/O
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samer menla said:
i try quadrant i get 2433
its very different from yours
im running jb ij 1.0.0
any solution?
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TMN sh.ts OUT, GPU 2d rendering ON, good launcher, auto brightnes adjust off, sounds off , no wigets, no animated wallpaper,, and 100x more solution. I dont have time for this...ask someone other or do a thread wheare people can write settings and chose one from them.
Edit: I am on IJ 1.0.0 also so you see right now differences. Settings vs settings.

Post Your Geek bench 4 Score

I got this, tops every other android in market on geekbench site.

Lol using old geekbench software... No pixel xl3 no s9 no note 9 no p20 pro
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Perfectdevil said:
Lol using old geekbench software... No pixel xl3 no s9 no note 9 no p20 pro
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pls share if your geekbech 4 show these devices after running benchmark, pls share these device scores as well if you can, samsung note 9 mongoose single core score is higher only
fyi pls check official geekbench site https://browser.geekbench.com/android-benchmarks

Mine is only getting around 1800 for single core and 5500-6000 for multi core

here's mine

Arrow Os
Anatutu: 239744
Geekbench:
Single score: 1937
Multi score : 7592

Lineage OS 16 October 23 build

Murareelalm said:
Mine is only getting around 1800 for single core and 5500-6000 for multi core
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its very low comparing sd845 score, what u do, custom rom?

mralam92 said:
its very low comparing sd845 score, what u do, custom rom?
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Nope, I'm on the stock ROM and it's weird that I'm getting such low scores.

Me too getting very low scores on stock Rom, lower than SD820

Antutu 266547
6+128gb

As per my memory, 9.6.25.0 Stock
Antutu: 286000
Geekbench: 2400+/8800+

Sunny2ask said:
Me too getting very low scores on stock Rom, lower than SD820
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I am also on stock MIUI, but mine tops, i didn't know why

mejgs said:
As per my memory, 9.6.25.0 Stock
Antutu: 286000
Geekbench: 2400+/8800+
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does 9.6.25 cause faster battery draining?

mralam92 said:
does 9.6.25 cause faster battery draining?
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Not at all, minimum 7,5 to 8h SOT. A few days ago i reached 10h SOT

Xiaomi.eu rom

Single 2450
Multi 8494

MIUI global 9.6.14.0
Single: 1982
Multi: 7545
Strange

Los 16 October 28 build

why such low scores on mine?
6gb + 64gb

12GB RAM ???

For my usage even 6GB ram in my S9+ is enough, so the 8GB version of OP7 Pro should be more than enough. The question is: is 12GB RAM going to be FASTER than the 8GB in any way when only using ONE app\benchmark\game at a time?? Cus I want the FASTEST.
As far as I know about how PCs work, more Ram only helps if you are using it... but then why did OP ''leak'' the cpu benchmark from the 12GB variant? https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/05/...isting-confirms-12-gb-ram-and-snapdragon-855/

sensationvsgalaxy said:
For my usage even 6GB ram in my S9+ is enough, so the 8GB version of OP7 Pro should be more than enough. The question is: is 12GB RAM going to be FASTER than the 8GB in any way when only using ONE app\benchmark\game at a time?? Cus I want the FASTEST.
As far as I know about how PCs work, more Ram only helps if you are using it... but then why did OP ''leak'' the cpu benchmark from the 12GB variant? https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/05/...isting-confirms-12-gb-ram-and-snapdragon-855/
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More RAM = More App memory

sensationvsgalaxy said:
For my usage even 6GB ram in my S9+ is enough, so the 8GB version of OP7 Pro should be more than enough. The question is: is 12GB RAM going to be FASTER than the 8GB in any way when only using ONE app\benchmark\game at a time?? Cus I want the FASTEST.
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You already know the answer.
By the time you need 12 gigs- you will probably become some 3 years older from now -- when a different SoC, GPU and the OS would actually want to make use of it on extremely intensive tasks.
sensationvsgalaxy said:
but then why did OP ''leak'' the cpu benchmark from the 12GB variant? https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/05/...isting-confirms-12-gb-ram-and-snapdragon-855/
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Don't know why "leaked" but all I can think of a phone having 12 gigs of RAM for now & also competitors following suit is all about BRAGGING RIGHTS.

Virgo_Guy said:
You already know the answer.
By the time you need 12 gigs- you will probably become some 3 years older from now -- when a different SoC, GPU and the OS would actually want to make use of it on extremely intensive tasks.
Don't know why "leaked" but all I can think of a phone having 12 gigs of RAM for now & also competitors following suit is all about BRAGGING RIGHTS.
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THANKS ..thats what I thought too..only that this video made me wonder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs_sCYQ8C3s& (starting 2:42..until then it's not interesting)

Virgo_Guy said:
You already know the answer.
By the time you need 12 gigs- you will probably become some 3 years older from now -- when a different SoC, GPU and the OS would actually want to make use of it on extremely intensive tasks.
Don't know why "leaked" but all I can think of a phone having 12 gigs of RAM for now & also competitors following suit is all about BRAGGING RIGHTS.
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Perhaps - but if you get 2-3 Andiiod upgrades and you pass your phone on to kids, grandma or someone who's less of a power user, having a phone that works can be better than buying them a new one.
Or if things keep going the way they're going, you keep the phone yourself because there's no significant upgrade that merits buying a whole new phone as long as the current one still works fine.

Superguy said:
Perhaps - but if you get 2-3 Andiiod upgrades and you pass your phone on to kids, grandma or someone who's less of a power user, having a phone that works can be better than buying them a new one.
Or if things keep going the way they're going, you keep the phone yourself because there's no significant upgrade that merits buying a whole new phone as long as the current one still works fine.
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In both cases I doubt how much of a role the 12 gigs would play(highly doubtful) at all in comparison to 8 gigs, as that "additional" 4 gigs will have little to do with the system but a newer redesigned SoC definitely WILL - which will be absent.
I mean just adding some "Access gigs Of RAM " will not make the phone futureproof.

How many nand chips make up the 8Gb and the 12 GB?
If there are more chips in the 12gb version then it will eat more battery.

Just ordered the blue 12 G version ?

Unfortunate that 12GB is only available in blue.

Im about to order the 12GB version just for bragging rights. Does the 12GB actually make a difference to the performance? Unlikely if say. I have a 6T Mclaren and the 10GB makes zero difference over the ordinary 6T but with the Snapdragon maybe the extra ram is utilised who knows. Anyway Im hesitant as I don't want what Happened to the 6 to happen again a special edition Red color soon after. That really makes me angry. I was lucky to get the McLaren when I did. Don't want to spend over €800 and see that happening all over again.
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Snapdragon 855 plus

Just wondering if the 855 plus is just a overclocked version of the standard 855 and if we can overclock the CPU and mainly GPU to match it?

Yeah, coz the standard 855 is not fast enough, right? Not worth the trouble IMO for a few percent extra speed...

insomnia77 said:
Just wondering if the 855 plus is just a overclocked version of the standard 855 and if we can overclock the CPU and mainly GPU to match it?
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Yes, from what I'm reading 855 and 855+ are the same except for CPU and GPU speeds.
You can use a custom kernel to overclock to the same speeds (if not better).
However, because this phone already runs everything perfectly it might not even be worth it considering unlocking bootloader, wiping data, increased battery drain from the boost, potential issues.
All of my games run at the framerate cap on stock anyway.

Just wanted to know if we still have the most powerful Android phone in the world lol at least until the 865 comes out next year.

Lol, it's still faster than a speeding bullet!

In my opinion, 6GB of Ram + Snapdragon 835 is still handle everything very good (at least for next 1-2 year)! So 855+ is a P.R trick and quite a waste!
By the way, i think the thread is in wrong section, it should be in "Discussion" !

insomnia77 said:
Just wanted to know if we still have the most powerful Android phone in the world lol at least until the 865 comes out next year.
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Well, the first phone with the 855+ AND a software which is efficient like OOS will be very slightly faster than our OP7Pro.

KemikalElite said:
Yes, from what I'm reading 855 and 855+ are the same except for CPU and GPU speeds.
You can use a custom kernel to overclock to the same speeds (if not better).
However, because this phone already runs everything perfectly it might not even be worth it considering unlocking bootloader, wiping data, increased battery drain from the boost, potential issues.
All of my games run at the framerate cap on stock anyway.
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Custom kernels will not allow overclock.
They have moved clock control.

insomnia77 said:
Just wanted to know if we still have the most powerful Android phone in the world lol at least until the 865 comes out next year.
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What does it matter?
Does it do everything you want already that fast? Benchmarks dont make a phone, people need to get out of this mindset fast.

iRhyiku said:
What does it matter?
Does it do everything you want already that fast? Benchmarks dont make a phone, people need to get out of this mindset fast.
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Most don't need 12gb of ram. 3 is enough for most people. Or 256 gb of storage . But it's nice to have the hp under the hood even if you don't use it.

tech_head said:
Custom kernels will not allow overclock.
They have moved clock control.
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Maybe for CPU but you can OC the GPU

tech_head said:
Custom kernels will not allow overclock.
They have moved clock control.
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What is "moved clock control"?
I've never seen a custom kernel that can't overclock.
Did Oneplus change it so that it cannot be overclocked?

insomnia77 said:
Most don't need 12gb of ram. 3 is enough for most people. Or 256 gb of storage . But it's nice to have the hp under the hood even if you don't use it.
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Very true
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KemikalElite said:
What is "moved clock control"?
I've never seen a custom kernel that can't overclock.
Did Oneplus change it so that it cannot be overclocked?
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From what I understand it's not oneplus it's Qualcomm that made it so you can't over clock cpu.

MrPhilo said:
Maybe for CPU but you can OC the GPU
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Oh that's good to know. I prefer GPU clock access anyways .

The 855+ only has a 3% CPU overclock
The GPU overclock is 15% but SmurfKernel can do more than a 30% overclock on our device

3ncrypt3d_Droid said:
Very true
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From what I understand it's not oneplus it's Qualcomm that made it so you can't over clock cpu.
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Correct. It's now in a protected area.

Arden144 said:
The 855+ only has a 3% CPU overclock
The GPU overclock is 15% but SmurfKernel can do more than a 30% overclock on our device
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That's unreal. So many possibilities with this phone!

3dMark with the EX 1.12 kernel 675mhz GPU. I haven't tried with gaming mode though. Score was 5932.

Is it possible OC Snapdragon 855 GPU to match the upcoming 865 ?

Ako.marketing said:
Is it possible OC Snapdragon 855 GPU to match the upcoming 865 ?
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Can't tell until we know the benchmark scores of the 865

Is 6GB of RAM enough for 4K video editing on MIUI?

Hi guys,
I sold my Zenfone 6 (6GB of RAM) and want to buy Poco F2 Pro. Is 6GB of RAM enough for MIUI?
Zenfone 6 was ok with 6GB of ram but their ROM is much more closer to stock Android.
I could buy version with 8GB of RAM for 55 euros extra. What do you think?
Thank you very much!

Evzzza said:
Hi guys,
I sold my Zenfone 6 (6GB of RAM) and want to buy Poco F2 Pro. Is 6GB of RAM enough for MIUI?
Zenfone 6 was ok with 6GB of ram but their ROM is much more closer to stock Android.
I could buy version with 8GB of RAM for 55 euros extra. What do you think?
Thank you very much!
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I game a lot and multitask....i ha e yet to experience any issue with 6gh...but if i could come back i would buy the 8gb..just for the sake to have more...in real life you will not need it... But for future...8gb will be safe. Depends how long time you wanna keep it...6-12months? 6gb will defo do.

Hunteres said:
I game a lot and multitask....i ha e yet to experience any issue with 6gh...but if i could come back i would buy the 8gb..just for the sake to have more...in real life you will not need it... But for future...8gb will be safe. Depends how long time you wanna keep it...6-12months? 6gb will defo do.
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Thank you. Yes I Had Zenfone 6 for 8 months, before that I had XZ2 for 12 months so i am probably shortening the period The thing is I used to edit 4K edit video on Zenfone 6 in VLLO app and it worked just so so. So im a bit afraid 6gb would not have to be enough with next version of MIUI or VLLO app.

Even 4 GB is fine. I don't get why smartphones need so much RAM since most people don't use them for heavy multitasking

chemha said:
Even 4 GB is fine. I don't get why smartphones need so much RAM since most people don't use them for heavy multitasking
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4GB for 4K video editing? Really?
I should probably change the title, sorry

Evzzza said:
4GB for 4K video editing? Really?
I should probably change the title, sorry
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Oh now I understand. I can't really answer that question. I would say the more you have, the better. But I 'd rather use a PC for video editting.

Evzzza said:
Hi guys,
I sold my Zenfone 6 (6GB of RAM) and want to buy Poco F2 Pro. Is 6GB of RAM enough for MIUI?
Zenfone 6 was ok with 6GB of ram but their ROM is much more closer to stock Android.
I could buy version with 8GB of RAM for 55 euros extra. What do you think?
Thank you very much!
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Evzzza said:
Thank you. Yes I Had Zenfone 6 for 8 months, before that I had XZ2 for 12 months so i am probably shortening the period The thing is I used to edit 4K edit video on Zenfone 6 in VLLO app and it worked just so so. So im a bit afraid 6gb would not have to be enough with next version of MIUI or VLLO app.
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Look .... You will have no issues with 6gb and 865.... But again.. if you have spare 55e spend it on 8gb ram...
I repeat... If i could turn back i would buy 8gb... 55e is nothing...and then yku have piece of mind that you have the best possible option...and 128gb is not enough.. 8gb 256 is way to go for 55e....if you can afford it

@Evzzza
Hey
6GB is LPDDR4X RAM
8GB is LPDDR5
antutu 568976 and 589986 respectively
But please guys, consider keeping your phones longer... your kids will thank you later! (and you could even get a PC and a screen with your saved money, cause editing 4k vidz on a 6,6" 1080p screen... )
Cheers!

RAM doesn't affect performance.
Be 100℅ sure of that. Android ram management is absolutely not like windows OS for example.
On android the os targets the ram needs at what u're doin' actually unlike windows which provides full ressources to all the programs u're running to.
The SoC is the mandatory key. And damn u'll got a 865 !! Even with 4gb of ram 4k editing could be possible no doubts :laugh:
Whatever variant u pick u'll never run out

Please, it's NOT the same type of RAM.
It should affect performance (not in a HUGE way indeed), hence the different benchmark score.
("The SoC" 865, you probably mean the CPU?)

LaMarMôt said:
Please, it's NOT the same type of RAM.
It should affect performance (not in a HUGE way indeed), hence the different benchmark score.
("The SoC" 865, you probably mean the CPU?)
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Substantially the same. Don't fool us bro with benchmarks from kimovil xD !
For SoC read Wikipedia :good:

kkosnuss said:
Substantially the same. Don't fool us bro with benchmarks from kimovil xD !
For SoC read Wikipedia :good:
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i don't even know why i'm responding, but hey...
why would you think i wanna FOOL you, BRO?
the cpu is part of the soc, SO is the ram... even on wikipedia you might get that concept....
the benchmarks are from Antutu, as quoted... get both phones and run your owns if you fancy it
plus, as you know, it is NOT the same type of memory.
AGAIN, the difference is certainly imperceptible, but there IS one.
Does it worth the extra bucks? THAT would be the question... @Evzzza keep in mind you double the storage as well
@kkosnuss, if we follow you, all things being equal, an android system with 2GB of RAM and the same config with 12GB of RAM will deliver the same performances?
...get yourself a break ^^
Cheers!

LaMarMôt said:
i don't even know why i'm responding, but hey...
why would you think i wanna FOOL you, BRO?
the cpu is part of the soc, SO is the ram... even on wikipedia you might get that concept....
the benchmarks are from Antutu, as quoted... get both phones and run your owns if you fancy it
plus, as you know, it is NOT the same type of memory.
AGAIN, the difference is certainly imperceptible, but there IS one.
Does it worth the extra bucks? THAT would be the question... @Evzzza keep in mind you double the storage as well
@kkosnuss, if we follow you, all things being equal, an android system with 2GB of RAM and the same config with 12GB of RAM will deliver the same performances?
...get yourself a break ^^
Cheers!
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What the hell Never said such.
And yep I got both pocos at home in their respectives configurations. I've been lazy in doin' benchmarks. One 8/256 is running stock the other 6/128 crdroid