I just wan´t to collect some Opinions which one you like more.
sorry for my bad english
Is this serious surly JB is more and more better then GB.
GB is more stable than JB. If you are a gamer, i advice you to stay on GB
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For now, GB is noticeably faster than JB when it comes to games/navigating around menus.
On JB navigating through the system settings is pretty horrible, takes 1-1,5 seconds to get from one tab to another.
JB is more modern though, looks nicer, has a better notification bar, supports more apps.
I'd wait for an official, unbranded JB release before switching over.
No! GB is not beter than JB. When you have right settings on it , it runs few times better than GB. Definitely recommend to flash on JB
Ps. Best for now - MC8 + Italian Job + Supercharger V6 + removed bloatwares + DISABLE AUTO ADJUST SCREEN TONE ( in settings - display, this fix is for lag in games used on leaked versions and some new users don't know about it)
for me
gingerbread is alot better for gaming
but tooo ugly
the jellybean is opposite
weak in gaming and very nice
buhaha GB better in gaming...yeah go for it! Instal GB and come play with me in Shadowgun Deadzone or run Vice Ciy on full...GB have better ram management (now...) but gpu and cpu on GB is 50% slower.
No? Instal RD 3D benchmark. On GB ALLWAYS ON ALL ROMS you get 30fps overal score.
On JB you get 42-45 fps overal score and lern use fps.meter.
I have check some games in that same place/situation and ALLWAYS on JB is more fps. You can feel only droops because ram is not good now on JB but properly settings solved that problems for me.
michal89chz said:
buhaha GB better in gaming...yeah go for it! Instal GB and come play with me in Shadowgun Deadzone or run Vice Ciy on full...GB have better ram management (now...) but gpu and cpu on GB is 50% slower.
No? Instal RD 3D benchmark. On GB ALLWAYS ON ALL ROMS you get 30fps overal score.
On JB you get 42-45 fps overal score and lern use fps.meter.
I have check some games in that same place/situation and ALLWAYS on JB is more fps. You can feel only droops because ram is not good now on JB but properly settings solved that problems for me.
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Are we have different devices? I am always getting lags on ui also ram hunger games.
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Ram in games...sometimes are problems if you have less free ram but fps/s is a LOT better on JB
Try on GB with fps meter: Dead Triger on max, Vice city on max and Most Wanted and than on Italian Job 1.0.0 (with fps meter) You will see big deferences on JB+)
Praying for better fitted JB. ZTE blade gets 7k on antutu benchmark but we can't. ZTE is 600 mhz single core. Ace 2 800 mhz dual core. It makes me insane !!
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michal89chz said:
buhaha GB better in gaming...yeah go for it! Instal GB and come play with me in Shadowgun Deadzone or run Vice Ciy on full...GB have better ram management (now...) but gpu and cpu on GB is 50% slower.
No? Instal RD 3D benchmark. On GB ALLWAYS ON ALL ROMS you get 30fps overal score.
On JB you get 42-45 fps overal score and lern use fps.meter.
I have check some games in that same place/situation and ALLWAYS on JB is more fps. You can feel only droops because ram is not good now on JB but properly settings solved that problems for me.
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what are the properly settings that can solve ram problems?
please tell us
...because zte blade run another one test hehehehe armv6 have not that sam test like armv7(b) Our device can get 20k on that test...why you compare so slow phone to ours in so bad benchmarks like quadrant/antutu. We have only one good benchmark (Rd3d) because that benchmark allways show that same framerate! Our one core is ~2 times faster than Zte blade. I had that phone before and I know what he can do after OC to 720/760 and CM7 and ...that phone have only good TFT(800/480) If you want you can get on zte blade 5k in quadrant after JIT becaus then quadrant generate bugs in graphics (all is white) DONT USE THAT BENCHMARKS to compare devices. Simply- stock S2 have in Quadrant 3k. Our phone have now on JB 2900+ so my device is fast like S2? NO.
Oh i dont know that point.
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S2 have similar score without OC .And what? My Ace 2 Is fast like S2? (...) No! Is ~2 times slower on GPU and ~1-1,5 times slower on CPU…
And we have better score than nexus
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If you have lags on JB in games try this:
1. Instal Kyrillosv7b (for MB4) or Italian Job v1 (for MC8)
2. Disable Auto adjust screen tone (Settings-screen)
3. Instal Supercharger for better ram management
4. Delete all bloadware apps (there is list somewhere)
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S2 have similar score without OC .And what? My Ace 2 Is fast like S2? (...) No! Is ~2 times slower on GPU and ~1-1,5 times slower on CPU…
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i try quadrant i get 2433
its very different from yours
im running jb ij 1.0.0
any solution?
samer menla said:
i try quadrant i get 2433
its very different from yours
im running jb ij 1.0.0
any solution?
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Stock firmware?
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Stock firmware?
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mc8 with italian job running nexus theme
thats all
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This is ok. That old Nexus is litle bit slower than Ace 2 on GPU because have higher res. and older ,slower one I/O
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samer menla said:
i try quadrant i get 2433
its very different from yours
im running jb ij 1.0.0
any solution?
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TMN sh.ts OUT, GPU 2d rendering ON, good launcher, auto brightnes adjust off, sounds off , no wigets, no animated wallpaper,, and 100x more solution. I dont have time for this...ask someone other or do a thread wheare people can write settings and chose one from them.
Edit: I am on IJ 1.0.0 also so you see right now differences. Settings vs settings.
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hi all,
i want to root and overclock my TF300T
for the overclocking:
-Can i use setcpu ? What other tool is good for OC ?
- Do i need a Costum ROM for overclocking to 1.5Ghz (MAX!)
-Will the performance be a lot better ? or just better ? or no diffrence ?
-What is the highest possible OC ?
Thank you
If you are on ICS you can over clock to 1.5 no problem. I don't know about Setcpu on ICS, but I do know EzOverclock works.
If you upgraded to Jellybean, I don't know of anyway to overclock as of yet. EzOverclock won't work on Jellybean and reportedly causes boot loops. I tried setcpu on my Jellybean Tf300 and found the CPU to be maxed at 1.3.
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If you are on ICS you can over clock to 1.5 no problem. I don't know about Setcpu on ICS, but I do know EzOverclock works.
If you upgraded to Jellybean, I don't know of anyway to overclock as of yet. EzOverclock won't work on Jellybean and reportedly causes boot loops. I tried setcpu on my Jellybean Tf300 and found the CPU to be maxed at 1.3.
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ok thank you, can i look somewhere to find out when EzOverclock is compatible with JB ?
Thank you
farmtool33 said:
-Will the performance be a lot better ? or just better ? or no diffrence ?
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It really depends on how you use the tablet, and where your bottleneck is. My feel is that I/O is the biggest bottleneck on the ASUS pads and the effects are felt across the board. I believe ASUS is working on a fix, though. Fingers crossed.
I/O notwithstanding, day-to-day tasks like email and web browsing don't need a 1 Ghz. Even video playback won't be affected by the difference between 1.2 Ghz (the ASUS performance mode) and 1.5 Ghz (typical max OC). Rendering graphics, I'm not sure how much is offloaded to the GPU, so games or graphic heavy applications may be where you'll see the most gains.
EZoverclock don't work on JB it will keeps restarting your tablet when EZoverclock starts.
And other apps work but can only be set to 1.3 so no overclock on JB with this kernel.
I think in graphically intense applications, such as games, would offer the most notable difference even with gpu offloading since not all instructions are graphics related. That being said just know that battery life will take a hit.
Remember...... as of now EzOverclock will not work in Jellybean.....
Here is a link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526311
[APP] - EZOverClock to 1.6 ghz
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Iam searching for a good stable htc desire s rom. That can play heavy games like, Gangster Rio, Nova 3, Asphalt 7, Gta 3. As smooth as possible!
I have tried many roms but they r all bad in heavy games. (Sometimes Crash, Freeze)
and the xperia play has exactly the same spec. as my htc desire s. And it doesn't lagg? How is this possible?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
By the way i got know: ICE DS v.6.0 Rom
Android Version: 4.0.4
Sense: 3.6
Kernel: 3.0.46-Ck1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1567715
And i tried today gangster rio. and it worked way smoother than the other roms. but there is still a bit of irritation lag here and there?
i even overclocked it to 1,5 ghz. the fps raised but. however it's still laggs.
Can someone please help me or give me some advice to run games smooth on a good rom!
By the way sorry for Pretty bad english!
I couldn't realy help you, but i can say I'm playing Asphalt 7 and Temple Run on my DS. I'm uing the sam ROM like you and there are no laggs, crashes or freezes. In case of the other games I could not say anything.
Did you flash FULL_WIPE_DS befor installing ICE_DS? Maybe there is gone some performance?
AOSP ROMs will be better for this case.
Not sure how they will run on JB ROMs, but I had great performance on CM7 a long time ago. Not lag-free, DS hardware isn't capable enough, but manageable.
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yes!! same here,, i bought nfs most wanted today,, played one race ,, it was laggy, went on youtube , watched a video of xperia play running the same game with few lags and running like a boss!! then i thought it must be my rom or something,, went again on youtube , watched a video of desire hd running the same game ,, and it was also lagging ,just as mine,, its kinda weird , play have the same specs as compared to our desire s, and 256 mb less ram , still it runs the game smoother,,,,,,,,,
olyloh6696 said:
AOSP ROMs will be better for this case.
Not sure how they will run on JB ROMs, but I had great performance on CM7 a long time ago. Not lag-free, DS hardware isn't capable enough, but manageable.2
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^^^ What he said ^^^ I don't play games on my phone much, but never had a problem either on pure CM7 or on Reaper. The latest games are going to struggle as devs are optimising them for quad-core devices, but that's to be expected.
tnZ said:
I couldn't realy help you, but i can say I'm playing Asphalt 7 and Temple Run on my DS. I'm uing the sam ROM like you and there are no laggs, crashes or freezes. In case of the other games I could not say anything.
Did you flash FULL_WIPE_DS befor installing ICE_DS? Maybe there is gone some performance?
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Hmm You're Right I forgot Full_Wipe_DS
tnZ said:
I couldn't realy help you, but i can say I'm playing Asphalt 7 and Temple Run on my DS. I'm uing the sam ROM like you and there are no laggs, crashes or freezes. In case of the other games I could not say anything.
Did you flash FULL_WIPE_DS befor installing ICE_DS? Maybe there is gone some performance?
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But did you change any OC speed or I/o Schedelur? And did you Force Gpu Rendering?
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But did you change any OC speed or I/o Schedelur? And did you Force Gpu Rendering?
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No, i did not change anything.
tnZ said:
No, i did not change anything.
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Anyway the FULL_WIPE_DS worked! thanks a lot! it's very clean stable rom now.
Hi together!
Today I tried some HD games on our tablet.
I was trying dead trigger and the dark knight rises, both lagged a lot.
I tried with high performance but didn't help.
How are your experiences with games?
Edit: I just installed cpu master antutu and put scaling on demand. I think it's better now.
Perhaps someone else can try this out and confirm this.
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Hi matey,
I've been trying Dead Trigger and that one worked just fine with me. Both saving and performance mode. Dark Knight Rises (and the Amazing Spider-Man) lagged for me too. Can't really tell if this is a hardware or software limitation. Wild Blood (also a Gameloft game) lagged for me too but then after an update that was solved. I installed Modern Combat 4, which lags a little too. Especially in the cutscenes.
That's why I'm going to try out the app you mentioned, let's see if that fixes some things. Thanks for that.
I'm really hoping Vorbeth (awesome person) is able to overclock the processor (CPU). He's already done overclocking the GPU. I think after he succeeds overclocking the CPU, things are going a lot smoother.
The problem is not the CPU. on High performance, the cpu score is even better than on the Nexus 7.
The problem that causes the lags is the high display resolution since the tegra 3 is only designed to run fluently in 1280x800.
Vorbeth's custom Kernel to overclock the GPU helps a little. But I think the bottleneck is the vram speed since the framebuffer on the A700 is bigger than on other tablets.
nex86 said:
The problem is not the CPU. on High performance, the cpu score is even better than on the Nexus 7.
The problem that causes the lags is the high display resolution since the tegra 3 is only designed to run fluently in 1280x800.
Vorbeth's custom Kernel to overclock the GPU helps a little. But I think the bottleneck is the vram speed since the framebuffer on the A700 is bigger than on other tablets.
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Can you elaborate on the vram? I'm not familair with that, really.
The TEGRA 3 isn't specifically designed for that resultion. Optimized seems more applicable, since the CPU just processes the stuff. Overclocking would in theory process even more stuff, so that will include data from the GPU to the display, I guess. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Edit:
I've installed AnTuTu Cpu Master, but what is "Go MaxSpeed Load"? It's default value is 85,
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Edit:
I've installed AnTuTu Cpu Master, but what is "Go MaxSpeed Load"? It's default value is 85,
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I have to check that, haven't even seen that option. Anyway, no idea what its for.
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Can you elaborate on the vram? I'm not familair with that, really.
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The vram is shared on the main ram which is DDR2 only on the A510/A700.
All other Tegra 3 tablets have DDR3 that should bring a bit more performance.
The A700 is basically based on the A510. The only difference is the display.
So the Asus TF700 should bring a better performance at the same CPU speed due to a faster RAM type.
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The vram is shared on the main ram which is DDR2 only on the A510/A700.
All other Tegra 3 tablets have DDR3 that should bring a bit more performance.
The A700 is basically based on the A510. The only difference is the display.
So the Asus TF700 should bring a better performance at the same CPU speed due to a faster RAM type.
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I see your point. That means we're just doomed then :/
putti71 said:
Hi together!
Today I tried some HD games on our tablet.
I was trying dead trigger and the dark knight rises, both lagged a lot.
I tried with high performance but didn't help.
How are your experiences with games?
Edit: I just installed cpu master antutu and put scaling on demand. I think it's better now.
Perhaps someone else can try this out and confirm this.
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Which version OS are you using?
In my experience, When A700 is 4.04 Dead trigger is fxxking lag.
After update to 4.1, all performance becom smoother
casper326 said:
Which version OS are you using?
In my experience, When A700 is 4.04 Dead trigger is fxxking lag.
After update to 4.1, all performance becom smoother
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I am on Jellybean 4.1. Dead trigger is getting better after playing it for a while, but the dark knight is the problem
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putti71 said:
I am on Jellybean 4.1. Dead trigger is getting better after playing it for a while, but the dark knight is the problem
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dark knight... I haven't try it.
But A700 is using full HD screen... not every game optimized for this resolution...
TF700 also will meet this problem...
casper326 said:
dark knight... I haven't try it.
But A700 is using full HD screen... not every game optimized for this resolution...
TF700 also will meet this problem...
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mmmm,
wondering if we can lower the resolution to say 720p.... just a thought
I already had this thought since I got the A700.
It would be nice if it's possible to change the output resolution to 1280x800 that it gets upscaled to 1920x1200.
I have read up about changing the resolution on android and the key might be the kernel start parameters in the bootloader.
but also patching the display driver could do it.
If we change the kernel, there is no way back, only flashing the original kernel.
I think the best way is to wait and hope that the game developers come up with some solution, hopefully.
When I bought the HTC one x, the situation was similar. There were only a few games working. And now, all of the HD games work.
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I really doubt that the game developers will come with a solution for FullHD tablets, especially not gameloft since they care ****-all about the A700 or the Tegra 3 itself.
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I really doubt that the game developers will come with a solution for FullHD tablets, especially not gameloft since they care ****-all about the A700 or the Tegra 3 itself.
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I hope you're wrong
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I hope you're wrong
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The One X got supported as it was HTC's Flagship phone, selling quite well, Full HD Tablets don't sell so well, so they won't even invest the ££ needed to support the lesser known tablets.
They may support Full HD for the nexus 10, but thats not a Tegra device
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I am on Jellybean 4.1. Dead trigger is getting better after playing it for a while, but the dark knight is the problem
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i'm also on JB, i play dark knight fluently. However amazing spider man lags big time, too bad i liked the game and my son also..
I've flashed that GPU kernel maybe that solves dark knight.
I'm on JB (RV18RC01_EMEA_FR, build 1.052) and the games you talk (expect spiderman wich I don't have) run smoothly on my tablet.
Some games received an update that solve lag but Acer make the system better and better.
One game lag for me it's NFS most wanted. It is playable but the car seem to run slowly.
I regret that some big developer (Game Loft is the perfect example) don't support HD tablet and their games don't appear on Play Store.
But if this game are downloaded with a supported device (my Xperia S) and loaded on tab they work perfectly (Nova 3).
Envoyé depuis mon A700 avec Tapatalk
with Iconian 2.4 they do appear on the playstore, but Nova 3 is still unplayable slow.
Perhaps because I buy Nova 3 directly from Game Loft.
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Hello guys!
Im addicted in playing heroes of order and chaos by gameloft. I got acer a700 for playing. Since i have got avg fps around 25-30, im looking for better performance.
What is best combo kernel+rom+ software for best gaming?
My tablet is running on stock 4.1.2 with custom kernel and im not satisficated with performance.
Guys plz help
Does advanced settings>power mode>high power, help any?
What framerates were you getting with stock?
Doesnt matter. I get on loeest setting in game around 25 fps in stress. Im pissed off since my galaxy note gets same framerate. Help me. Frame didnt changed with new oc kernel
tejp said:
Hello guys!
Im addicted in playing heroes of order and chaos by gameloft. I got acer a700 for playing. Since i have got avg fps around 25-30, im looking for better performance.
What is best combo kernel+rom+ software for best gaming?
My tablet is running on stock 4.1.2 with custom kernel and im not satisficated with performance.
Guys plz help
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How is your internet connection? This can drastically affect the games speed & smoothness. Try standing/sitting right at the router for a bit. See what happens. If that helps see if a wireless extender is in the offing. I got one for $15 shipped on eBay.
How fast is your internet? Cable can be a drag in a crowded neighborhood.
Also, if you have root, try uninstalling the Acer bloatware w/ Root App Delete or similar. Most of the Acer apps are duplicates of the Android ones anyways. Disable the Acer Ring too.
oc kernal for 10.1.2+, ?
Somewhere I read that JB/cm10.1.+ on the a700 has some extra hardware layers,
I think that slows ya down.
I wonder what the fps would of be on ICS
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oc kernal for 10.1.2+, ?
Somewhere I read that JB/cm10.1.+ on the a700 has some extra hardware layers,
I think that slows ya down.
I wonder what the fps would of be on ICS
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What do u mean with this kernel?
Would it be possible that someone will type how to install stock kernel?
Since kernel is only for stock roms im not able to install custom rom with it.
And btw Am I wrong becouse of feeling that this tablet is not so good for gaming?
Also i would like u to ask if the nexus 10 would be better for gaming?
I would be gr8full for fast replay.
Looking forward for answers
How is your internet connection? This can drastically affect the games speed & smoothness. Try standing/sitting right at the router for a bit. See what happens. If that helps see if a wireless extender is in the offing. I got one for $15 shipped on eBay.
How fast is your internet? Cable can be a drag in a crowded neighborhood.
Also, if you have root, try uninstalling the Acer bloatware w/ Root App Delete or similar. Most of the Acer apps are duplicates of the Android ones anyways. Disable the Acer Ring too.
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Nah . It is not the Internet fault. i have tested game on many net connections
Kiteman kernel v4.1 works with cm10.1.2 stable
A700 is not praised for its gpu , and slightly funky screen size.
I got one to only mess with cm10.1
The nexus 10 should be better with extra mem and better gpu.
My antutu gpu score is 1878
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Kiteman kernel v4.1 works with cm10.1.2 stable
A700 is not praised for its gpu , and slightly funky screen size.
I got one to only mess with cm10.1
The nexus 10 should be better with extra mem and better gpu.
My antutu gpu score is 1878
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Ok so now i just need to install cm in the same way as they type in its guide and everything will work?
Can't say everything will work,
just saying there is a custom kernel available for cm10.1
Need to load it after loading rom.
I'm not sure it will help your fps issue much
What is your antutu gpu score?
How do you know if your device could play Games like Asphalt 8 on max settings without lag
Open Antutu Benchmark
Test and wait for the 3D graphics part ( the pool thing )
If your Fps is from 35-40FPS then your phone can handle games like A8 on max settings
If no, then better sulk and regret buying your entry level device
FPS
30-40 - Excellent your device can handle games like those at max settings with ease
20-30 - Good enough, your device could handle games but with occasional stuttering on max settings
10-20 - Bad,your device might have have a hard time running those is settings are not kept to a low or medium
0-10 - Very bad, this means your device is crappy and is not made for games like MC 4, A8 & etc.
My device scores around 0-10 what do I do?
First make sure your device is Rooted and has a recovery like CWM or TWRP
then you first flash this
after that flash Pure Performances X and see the magic
Overclocking the CPU and GPU would wield better results in gaming at the expense of battery life
Best Settings
Governor: OndemandX or Scary
I/O Scheduler: cfq or sio
Thanks! I never tried AnTuTu, but it's probably a good idea to.
Xperia j
After installing those two things antutu force closes when the 2d test starts. Games force close almost immediately after launch.
Not really much of a gaming performance boost.
Saleen28 said:
Xperia j
After installing those two things antutu force closes when the 2d test starts. Games force close almost immediately after launch.
Not really much of a gaming performance boost.
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+1. The only game that didn't crash was real racing 3, and Flappy bird!!
@Thanatos , don't you test this stuff before posting?
Don't use Hypercola when benchmarking, I suggest you use Minimalised version
This is awesome mod I tried in htc explorer but is it safe to flash in jb cm10 as the website says any gb rom
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int.d support required right? ...add link if possible
yep, all you need to do is download universal init.d to get init.d support.
I think hypercola would work fine on JB too
It worked to some extent on Xperia miro .
Would it be safe to use AdrenoBooster and PurePerformances X after overclocking the device with Riches Kernel? Would this work on CM10?
Thanks!
I get around 3 FPS. LOL
Yep, that would work, on CM 10
3d games not working on xperia tipo after flashing this on 2d games work
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How about this
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