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Games on acer a700

Hi together!
Today I tried some HD games on our tablet.
I was trying dead trigger and the dark knight rises, both lagged a lot.
I tried with high performance but didn't help.
How are your experiences with games?
Edit: I just installed cpu master antutu and put scaling on demand. I think it's better now.
Perhaps someone else can try this out and confirm this.
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Hi matey,
I've been trying Dead Trigger and that one worked just fine with me. Both saving and performance mode. Dark Knight Rises (and the Amazing Spider-Man) lagged for me too. Can't really tell if this is a hardware or software limitation. Wild Blood (also a Gameloft game) lagged for me too but then after an update that was solved. I installed Modern Combat 4, which lags a little too. Especially in the cutscenes.
That's why I'm going to try out the app you mentioned, let's see if that fixes some things. Thanks for that.
I'm really hoping Vorbeth (awesome person) is able to overclock the processor (CPU). He's already done overclocking the GPU. I think after he succeeds overclocking the CPU, things are going a lot smoother.

The problem is not the CPU. on High performance, the cpu score is even better than on the Nexus 7.
The problem that causes the lags is the high display resolution since the tegra 3 is only designed to run fluently in 1280x800.
Vorbeth's custom Kernel to overclock the GPU helps a little. But I think the bottleneck is the vram speed since the framebuffer on the A700 is bigger than on other tablets.

nex86 said:
The problem is not the CPU. on High performance, the cpu score is even better than on the Nexus 7.
The problem that causes the lags is the high display resolution since the tegra 3 is only designed to run fluently in 1280x800.
Vorbeth's custom Kernel to overclock the GPU helps a little. But I think the bottleneck is the vram speed since the framebuffer on the A700 is bigger than on other tablets.
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Can you elaborate on the vram? I'm not familair with that, really.
The TEGRA 3 isn't specifically designed for that resultion. Optimized seems more applicable, since the CPU just processes the stuff. Overclocking would in theory process even more stuff, so that will include data from the GPU to the display, I guess. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I've installed AnTuTu Cpu Master, but what is "Go MaxSpeed Load"? It's default value is 85,

TomONeill said:
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I've installed AnTuTu Cpu Master, but what is "Go MaxSpeed Load"? It's default value is 85,
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I have to check that, haven't even seen that option. Anyway, no idea what its for.
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TomONeill said:
Can you elaborate on the vram? I'm not familair with that, really.
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The vram is shared on the main ram which is DDR2 only on the A510/A700.
All other Tegra 3 tablets have DDR3 that should bring a bit more performance.
The A700 is basically based on the A510. The only difference is the display.
So the Asus TF700 should bring a better performance at the same CPU speed due to a faster RAM type.

nex86 said:
The vram is shared on the main ram which is DDR2 only on the A510/A700.
All other Tegra 3 tablets have DDR3 that should bring a bit more performance.
The A700 is basically based on the A510. The only difference is the display.
So the Asus TF700 should bring a better performance at the same CPU speed due to a faster RAM type.
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I see your point. That means we're just doomed then :/

putti71 said:
Hi together!
Today I tried some HD games on our tablet.
I was trying dead trigger and the dark knight rises, both lagged a lot.
I tried with high performance but didn't help.
How are your experiences with games?
Edit: I just installed cpu master antutu and put scaling on demand. I think it's better now.
Perhaps someone else can try this out and confirm this.
Sent from my A700 using xda app-developers app
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Which version OS are you using?
In my experience, When A700 is 4.04 Dead trigger is fxxking lag.
After update to 4.1, all performance becom smoother

casper326 said:
Which version OS are you using?
In my experience, When A700 is 4.04 Dead trigger is fxxking lag.
After update to 4.1, all performance becom smoother
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I am on Jellybean 4.1. Dead trigger is getting better after playing it for a while, but the dark knight is the problem
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putti71 said:
I am on Jellybean 4.1. Dead trigger is getting better after playing it for a while, but the dark knight is the problem
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dark knight... I haven't try it.
But A700 is using full HD screen... not every game optimized for this resolution...
TF700 also will meet this problem...

casper326 said:
dark knight... I haven't try it.
But A700 is using full HD screen... not every game optimized for this resolution...
TF700 also will meet this problem...
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mmmm,
wondering if we can lower the resolution to say 720p.... just a thought

I already had this thought since I got the A700.
It would be nice if it's possible to change the output resolution to 1280x800 that it gets upscaled to 1920x1200.
I have read up about changing the resolution on android and the key might be the kernel start parameters in the bootloader.
but also patching the display driver could do it.

If we change the kernel, there is no way back, only flashing the original kernel.
I think the best way is to wait and hope that the game developers come up with some solution, hopefully.
When I bought the HTC one x, the situation was similar. There were only a few games working. And now, all of the HD games work.
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I really doubt that the game developers will come with a solution for FullHD tablets, especially not gameloft since they care ****-all about the A700 or the Tegra 3 itself.

nex86 said:
I really doubt that the game developers will come with a solution for FullHD tablets, especially not gameloft since they care ****-all about the A700 or the Tegra 3 itself.
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I hope you're wrong
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I hope you're wrong
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The One X got supported as it was HTC's Flagship phone, selling quite well, Full HD Tablets don't sell so well, so they won't even invest the ££ needed to support the lesser known tablets.
They may support Full HD for the nexus 10, but thats not a Tegra device

putti71 said:
I am on Jellybean 4.1. Dead trigger is getting better after playing it for a while, but the dark knight is the problem
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i'm also on JB, i play dark knight fluently. However amazing spider man lags big time, too bad i liked the game and my son also..
I've flashed that GPU kernel maybe that solves dark knight.

I'm on JB (RV18RC01_EMEA_FR, build 1.052) and the games you talk (expect spiderman wich I don't have) run smoothly on my tablet.
Some games received an update that solve lag but Acer make the system better and better.
One game lag for me it's NFS most wanted. It is playable but the car seem to run slowly.
I regret that some big developer (Game Loft is the perfect example) don't support HD tablet and their games don't appear on Play Store.
But if this game are downloaded with a supported device (my Xperia S) and loaded on tab they work perfectly (Nova 3).
Envoyé depuis mon A700 avec Tapatalk

with Iconian 2.4 they do appear on the playstore, but Nova 3 is still unplayable slow.

Perhaps because I buy Nova 3 directly from Game Loft.
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[Question] ZTE U950 stuttering, is ICS this bad?

Hi!
I own a ZTE U950 and I updated to the latest FW, but no matter what game I play, it has small stutterings every 3-4 sec. I tried a lot of games, even Dead Space that should run like butter, but even that has stuttering every 3-4 sec. The FPS is on the roof, but for reasons unknown it still noticeably stutter every 3-4 sec.
I tried everything...installing previous rom, closing all background applications, disabling auto-rotate, disabling wifi, changing powersave settings, but nothing worked.
It is really annoying that I can not get rid of this micro stuttering. Game running like butter, but picture stops for micro of a second every 3-4 sec.
What is the problem? Is it just that ICS is trash? A phone with Tegra 3 quadcore should not have stutterings like these...I get ~13200 points in Antutu. The ICS version is 4.0.4.

Oo...I'm considering this phone can give some real shot of the u950 n some screenshot to me..how bout battery life?
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Not counting the problem I have, this phone is awesome, well worth the price.
However there is 1 more big problem: no "good" custom roms yet...there are some Chinese custom roms, but they don't really improve performance (I tried at least 6). With a good custom rom and a "gaming kernel" (like the One X has that unlocks the CPU and GPU to it's max potential) this phone would be a must buy.

Zackconsole said:
Oo...I'm considering this phone can give some real shot of the u950 n some screenshot to me..how bout battery life?
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Here is a review, with test results, screenshots and pictures: ZTE U950 review

Nobody has any idea about my problem ?

op...can share some image shot by the 5mp?
Considering to get one of this.
People reported that it will restart by itself
so it's true?

Got it today ,you must root it and update the rom in order to get rid of some bloatware.secondly there are chinese roms but based on the original so no real tweaking .if a cyanogen was running in this phone was going to be perfect but as i searched on chinese forum most have the basic knoweledge nothing more to build a kernel with mods or aosp .the phone is acceptable for daily usage for its price range.
as for the stutterring on random restart on games consider using the app released for htc one x to minimalise game settings so they can run perfect.i must also remind that the games were not designed for this resolution as most tegra 3 devices have better resolution.

dragonmasterx said:
Got it today ,you must root it and update the rom in order to get rid of some bloatware.secondly there are chinese roms but based on the original so no real tweaking .if a cyanogen was running in this phone was going to be perfect but as i searched on chinese forum most have the basic knoweledge nothing more to build a kernel with mods or aosp .the phone is acceptable for daily usage for its price range.
as for the stutterring on random restart on games consider using the app released for htc one x to minimalise game settings so they can run perfect.i must also remind that the games were not designed for this resolution as most tegra 3 devices have better resolution.
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Hey, how did you root and installed recovery? I am trying to find a way to do that in order to install gapps but no luck so far.

dragonmasterx said:
Got it today ,you must root it and update the rom in order to get rid of some bloatware.secondly there are chinese roms but based on the original so no real tweaking .if a cyanogen was running in this phone was going to be perfect but as i searched on chinese forum most have the basic knoweledge nothing more to build a kernel with mods or aosp .the phone is acceptable for daily usage for its price range.
as for the stutterring on random restart on games consider using the app released for htc one x to minimalise game settings so they can run perfect.i must also remind that the games were not designed for this resolution as most tegra 3 devices have better resolution.
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"consider using the app released for htc one x to minimalise game settings so they can run perfect"
What app?

Zackconsole said:
op...can share some image shot by the 5mp?
Considering to get one of this.
People reported that it will restart by itself
so it's true?
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You need to update the FW to B22 to fix the restart issue.
A shot with the 5mp camera: click

ssj3hulk said:
"consider using the app released for htc one x to minimalise game settings so they can run perfect"
What app?
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/make-games-more-playable-on-the-htc-one-x-with-game-modder/

anyone already changed recovery language to english ? Or localized Rom file without chinese programms?

no unfortunate no dev has this device yet ,hope at least for a stable recovery and rom

Allright people, time to get this baby, a shop has it on sale for $170 (with free world wide shipping): ZTE U950 $170 Can't beat a price like that for a Tegra 3 device. Hope a dev will pick it up, this thing really needs some home made roms.

lower price
There is another choice for only 155$ at this exact site. :good:

i found on this page some roms
try this tool for translation of the roms

superpfpf said:
i found on this page some roms
try this tool for translation of the roms
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Thank you for sharing the infos
Best regards

Your Experience - Best performing rom?

Ok so I am currently running CleanRom 2.7 Oc'd to 1.8 and without Fsync disabled. I also use the dock for battery & email purposes.
With this combo I honesty expected alot more from this tablet. It just seems a bit laggy. With a 1.8ghz Quad core processor & a streamlined OS, this thing should be FLYING! What am I missing? My GS3 on CM10 runs circles around this tablet. I know it has an extra gig of ram, but I wouldn't think there would be such a giant difference.
So, in your experience - what is the fastest most efficient rom with out lag? CM10? Another Cleanrom? Other Rom?
Please give me your opinion & any other suggestions. Thanks

EyeAndroid said:
My GS3 on CM10 runs circles around this tablet.
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We've been over this a thousand times on these forums.
The TF700 has a resolution of 1920 x 1200
The SGS3 has a resolution of 1280 x 720
More pixels means more lag. Regardless of the rest of the hardware. You want a faster tablet, get a low-resolution one.

EyeAndroid said:
Ok so I am currently running CleanRom 2.7 Oc'd to 1.8 and without Fsync disabled. I also use the dock for battery & email purposes.
With this combo I honesty expected alot more from this tablet. It just seems a bit laggy. With a 1.8ghz Quad core processor & a streamlined OS, this thing should be FLYING! What am I missing? My GS3 on CM10 runs circles around this tablet. I know it has an extra gig of ram, but I wouldn't think there would be such a giant difference.
So, in your experience - what is the fastest most efficient rom with out lag? CM10? Another Cleanrom? Other Rom?
Please give me your opinion & any other suggestions. Thanks
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If I were you, I'd go to CRomI 3.1 Odex with disabled fsync (seriously: there are no risks 'cause the stock kernel is as stable as a rock).
I too am an SIII user (with 1 gig of RAM) but I really do think the tf700 isn't slow at all.
Maybe you forgot to update your bootloader when going form ICS to JB?
I am getting near 7000 on Quadrant (which is not really a good benchmark app, but it gives an idea of what scores you'll be able to get with the tf700.

I can only compare the original ROM to CleanROM and CROMi haven't tried other ROMs.
No dock here either so I wouldn't have input there.
My experience with the stock ROM was a heartache.
Jelly Bean just didn't come thru as promised far as I could see.
Since going thru the learning process to flash CleanROM\Clemsyns, then continuing on with CROMi there was no looking back.
This I consider a complete solution to my disappointment with the Infinity.
Almost returned the tablet to Amazon so glad I kept it now.
Not sure why some stock tabs run with such lagginess.
Oddly I fiddled with one in a store just 2 days ago and it was very smooth.
My recommendation would be an obvious one.
*Be advised once you start ROMing you may get hooked

Jelly Bean vs. Gingerbread

I just wan´t to collect some Opinions which one you like more.
sorry for my bad english

Is this serious surly JB is more and more better then GB.

GB is more stable than JB. If you are a gamer, i advice you to stay on GB
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For now, GB is noticeably faster than JB when it comes to games/navigating around menus.
On JB navigating through the system settings is pretty horrible, takes 1-1,5 seconds to get from one tab to another.
JB is more modern though, looks nicer, has a better notification bar, supports more apps.
I'd wait for an official, unbranded JB release before switching over.

No! GB is not beter than JB. When you have right settings on it , it runs few times better than GB. Definitely recommend to flash on JB
Ps. Best for now - MC8 + Italian Job + Supercharger V6 + removed bloatwares + DISABLE AUTO ADJUST SCREEN TONE ( in settings - display, this fix is for lag in games used on leaked versions and some new users don't know about it)

for me
gingerbread is alot better for gaming
but tooo ugly
the jellybean is opposite
weak in gaming and very nice

buhaha GB better in gaming...yeah go for it! Instal GB and come play with me in Shadowgun Deadzone or run Vice Ciy on full...GB have better ram management (now...) but gpu and cpu on GB is 50% slower.
No? Instal RD 3D benchmark. On GB ALLWAYS ON ALL ROMS you get 30fps overal score.
On JB you get 42-45 fps overal score and lern use fps.meter.
I have check some games in that same place/situation and ALLWAYS on JB is more fps. You can feel only droops because ram is not good now on JB but properly settings solved that problems for me.

michal89chz said:
buhaha GB better in gaming...yeah go for it! Instal GB and come play with me in Shadowgun Deadzone or run Vice Ciy on full...GB have better ram management (now...) but gpu and cpu on GB is 50% slower.
No? Instal RD 3D benchmark. On GB ALLWAYS ON ALL ROMS you get 30fps overal score.
On JB you get 42-45 fps overal score and lern use fps.meter.
I have check some games in that same place/situation and ALLWAYS on JB is more fps. You can feel only droops because ram is not good now on JB but properly settings solved that problems for me.
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Are we have different devices? I am always getting lags on ui also ram hunger games.
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Ram in games...sometimes are problems if you have less free ram but fps/s is a LOT better on JB
Try on GB with fps meter: Dead Triger on max, Vice city on max and Most Wanted and than on Italian Job 1.0.0 (with fps meter) You will see big deferences on JB+)

Praying for better fitted JB. ZTE blade gets 7k on antutu benchmark but we can't. ZTE is 600 mhz single core. Ace 2 800 mhz dual core. It makes me insane !!
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michal89chz said:
buhaha GB better in gaming...yeah go for it! Instal GB and come play with me in Shadowgun Deadzone or run Vice Ciy on full...GB have better ram management (now...) but gpu and cpu on GB is 50% slower.
No? Instal RD 3D benchmark. On GB ALLWAYS ON ALL ROMS you get 30fps overal score.
On JB you get 42-45 fps overal score and lern use fps.meter.
I have check some games in that same place/situation and ALLWAYS on JB is more fps. You can feel only droops because ram is not good now on JB but properly settings solved that problems for me.
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what are the properly settings that can solve ram problems?
please tell us

...because zte blade run another one test hehehehe armv6 have not that sam test like armv7(b) Our device can get 20k on that test...why you compare so slow phone to ours in so bad benchmarks like quadrant/antutu. We have only one good benchmark (Rd3d) because that benchmark allways show that same framerate! Our one core is ~2 times faster than Zte blade. I had that phone before and I know what he can do after OC to 720/760 and CM7 and ...that phone have only good TFT(800/480) If you want you can get on zte blade 5k in quadrant after JIT becaus then quadrant generate bugs in graphics (all is white) DONT USE THAT BENCHMARKS to compare devices. Simply- stock S2 have in Quadrant 3k. Our phone have now on JB 2900+ so my device is fast like S2? NO.

Oh i dont know that point.
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S2 have similar score without OC .And what? My Ace 2 Is fast like S2? (...) No! Is ~2 times slower on GPU and ~1-1,5 times slower on CPU…

And we have better score than nexus
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If you have lags on JB in games try this:
1. Instal Kyrillosv7b (for MB4) or Italian Job v1 (for MC8)
2. Disable Auto adjust screen tone (Settings-screen)
3. Instal Supercharger for better ram management
4. Delete all bloadware apps (there is list somewhere)

michal89chz said:
S2 have similar score without OC .And what? My Ace 2 Is fast like S2? (...) No! Is ~2 times slower on GPU and ~1-1,5 times slower on CPU…
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i try quadrant i get 2433
its very different from yours
im running jb ij 1.0.0
any solution?

samer menla said:
i try quadrant i get 2433
its very different from yours
im running jb ij 1.0.0
any solution?
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Stock firmware?
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abdulkadiro said:
Stock firmware?
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mc8 with italian job running nexus theme
thats all
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This is ok. That old Nexus is litle bit slower than Ace 2 on GPU because have higher res. and older ,slower one I/O
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samer menla said:
i try quadrant i get 2433
its very different from yours
im running jb ij 1.0.0
any solution?
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TMN sh.ts OUT, GPU 2d rendering ON, good launcher, auto brightnes adjust off, sounds off , no wigets, no animated wallpaper,, and 100x more solution. I dont have time for this...ask someone other or do a thread wheare people can write settings and chose one from them.
Edit: I am on IJ 1.0.0 also so you see right now differences. Settings vs settings.

PPSSPP emulator slow performance after Marshmallow update Galaxy S6

Hey guys,
So I used to run ppsspp(psp emulator ) on my galaxy s6 and it ran nearly full speed all the time,but after updating to Marshmallow the performance took a huge hit .I'm getting 12 fps in God of war while I used to get like 40-50 fps on lollipop .
If anyone know why is that or if there's anyway to get the performance back that would be great . thanks in advance .

Same here. Even antutu shows 47k scores compared to 80k on lollipop.

ProtoDeVNan0 said:
Same here. Even antutu shows 47k scores compared to 80k on lollipop.
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I switched to adam kernel just to see if maybe samsung did something in the kernel that cripples performance to save battery but there was no difference . I don't know what may cause this but everything else is smooth ,really thinking about switching back to xtrestolite if I dont find a way to fix this .

do u guys use wireless joypad or on screen controls

huzi7868 said:
do u guys use wireless joypad or on screen controls
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on screen controls and sometimes when I'm home I use a DS3 controller ,but currently ppsspp is not playable