Your Experience - Best performing rom? - Asus Transformer TF700

Ok so I am currently running CleanRom 2.7 Oc'd to 1.8 and without Fsync disabled. I also use the dock for battery & email purposes.
With this combo I honesty expected alot more from this tablet. It just seems a bit laggy. With a 1.8ghz Quad core processor & a streamlined OS, this thing should be FLYING! What am I missing? My GS3 on CM10 runs circles around this tablet. I know it has an extra gig of ram, but I wouldn't think there would be such a giant difference.
So, in your experience - what is the fastest most efficient rom with out lag? CM10? Another Cleanrom? Other Rom?
Please give me your opinion & any other suggestions. Thanks

EyeAndroid said:
My GS3 on CM10 runs circles around this tablet.
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We've been over this a thousand times on these forums.
The TF700 has a resolution of 1920 x 1200
The SGS3 has a resolution of 1280 x 720
More pixels means more lag. Regardless of the rest of the hardware. You want a faster tablet, get a low-resolution one.

EyeAndroid said:
Ok so I am currently running CleanRom 2.7 Oc'd to 1.8 and without Fsync disabled. I also use the dock for battery & email purposes.
With this combo I honesty expected alot more from this tablet. It just seems a bit laggy. With a 1.8ghz Quad core processor & a streamlined OS, this thing should be FLYING! What am I missing? My GS3 on CM10 runs circles around this tablet. I know it has an extra gig of ram, but I wouldn't think there would be such a giant difference.
So, in your experience - what is the fastest most efficient rom with out lag? CM10? Another Cleanrom? Other Rom?
Please give me your opinion & any other suggestions. Thanks
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If I were you, I'd go to CRomI 3.1 Odex with disabled fsync (seriously: there are no risks 'cause the stock kernel is as stable as a rock).
I too am an SIII user (with 1 gig of RAM) but I really do think the tf700 isn't slow at all.
Maybe you forgot to update your bootloader when going form ICS to JB?
I am getting near 7000 on Quadrant (which is not really a good benchmark app, but it gives an idea of what scores you'll be able to get with the tf700.

I can only compare the original ROM to CleanROM and CROMi haven't tried other ROMs.
No dock here either so I wouldn't have input there.
My experience with the stock ROM was a heartache.
Jelly Bean just didn't come thru as promised far as I could see.
Since going thru the learning process to flash CleanROM\Clemsyns, then continuing on with CROMi there was no looking back.
This I consider a complete solution to my disappointment with the Infinity.
Almost returned the tablet to Amazon so glad I kept it now.
Not sure why some stock tabs run with such lagginess.
Oddly I fiddled with one in a store just 2 days ago and it was very smooth.
My recommendation would be an obvious one.
*Be advised once you start ROMing you may get hooked

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[Q] Best hackable sub-$300 Android tablet?

I'm looking to get my first Android tablet. I've always rooted and run custom firmware on my Android phones, so I need a "cheap" Android tablet with a healthy developer community and a lot of support.
My first thought was to go for the $250 Nook Tablet, spec for spec it's better than the Kindle Fire; but didn't an update come out for it recently that made rooting it near impossible or so highly difficult that it hasn't been done yet?
Then the $200 Kindle Fire came to mind, very popular tablet must mean a very healthy/active hacking/dev community right? But isn't it also locked down in such a way it can't be rooted or modified anymore?
Then I see a $189 Lenovo A1 Tablet at Best Buy with decent specs. It's running Android 2.3 which I'd normally prefer over Android 3.0/Honeycomb but now that ICS/Android 4.0 is out, I'd definately want to run that on my tablet. So is ICS running very good/stable on any sub $300 Android tablet?
I wonder when the $250 Tegra3 based tablet from Asus (or is it Acer...) comes out. Suggestions on which route to go?
My friend has a Kindle Fire, and it's too slow to be called a tablet. It's an E-Reader that can run Apps.
Even the web browser - scrolling and loading pages - is laggy.
Colton127 said:
My friend has a Kindle Fire, and it's too slow to be called a tablet. It's an E-Reader that can run Apps.
Even the web browser - scrolling and loading pages - is laggy.
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Does it run any custom firmware? Or is it 100% stock? The first thing I plan to do is run a custom ROM on it. Even if it's to remove the bloatware and put in a few tweaks, at least it'd be better than stock. My Galaxy S II right now runs a custom ROM based on the factory ROM, so it has full hardware support and such but it's got a lot of tweaks put into it and bloatware removed, etc. the end result is it's got better battery life and runs faster/smoother than any stock Galaxy S II ROM. I'm hoping to get ICS/Android 4.0 onto a tablet, as that's the way to go, but if the dev community isn't quite there yet, then I'm hoping for a custom/tweaked out ROM as a tide-me-over.
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Does it run any custom firmware? Or is it 100% stock? The first thing I plan to do is run a custom ROM on it. Even if it's to remove the bloatware and put in a few tweaks, at least it'd be better than stock. My Galaxy S II right now runs a custom ROM based on the factory ROM, so it has full hardware support and such but it's got a lot of tweaks put into it and bloatware removed, etc. the end result is it's got better battery life and runs faster/smoother than any stock Galaxy S II ROM. I'm hoping to get ICS/Android 4.0 onto a tablet, as that's the way to go, but if the dev community isn't quite there yet, then I'm hoping for a custom/tweaked out ROM as a tide-me-over.
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He runs stock rooted with Android Market and a custom launcher.
I tested Opera Mobile on it - which uses full hardware acceleration. It was the smoothest browser I tested on the device, but it was still jittery and lagged while scrolling. The GPU and CPU are obviously not that great.
Colton127 said:
He runs stock rooted with Android Market and a custom launcher.
I tested Opera Mobile on it - which uses full hardware acceleration. It was the smoothest browser I tested on the device, but it was still jittery and lagged while scrolling. The GPU and CPU are obviously not that great.
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Well it is a cheap tablet new, but I thought it was dual core. Kind of disappointing it's sluggish even with HW acceleration. I just checked the Kindle Fire Android Development forum and it looks like they have ICS/Android 4.0 ROM's for it but the 3 main issues are no HW UI Acceleration; 720p and HD video in general; No bluetooth. I don't care too much for Bluetooth and the 720p video thing isn't that important at the moment (I think), but the no HW UI Acceleration could pose a problem, especially if the CPU is as sluggish as you say.
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Well it is a cheap tablet new, but I thought it was dual core. Kind of disappointing it's sluggish even with HW acceleration. I just checked the Kindle Fire Android Development forum and it looks like they have ICS/Android 4.0 ROM's for it but the 3 main issues are no HW UI Acceleration; 720p and HD video in general; No bluetooth. I don't care too much for Bluetooth and the 720p video thing isn't that important at the moment (I think), but the no HW UI Acceleration could pose a problem, especially if the CPU is as sluggish as you say.
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It is Dual-Core, but it was still laggy when I had tested it. I guess it really bothered me because I was so use to the extremely smooth and fluid iPad 2 & Galaxy S II I own and use day-to-day.
I never tested any custom ROMs, but wish I was able to. It seems to have a lot of popular ROMs and a good developer community.
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Sorry about that. Thanks for moving this thread/keeping things organized, I really appreciate what you guys do.
Right now I'm leaning toward the HP Touchpad or the Kindle Fire. Seems CM7 is the better option for both devices and good enough as a daily driver; but CM9 is further along on the Fire than it is on the Touchpad.
I'm in about the same situation.
I vastly prefer the 7" form factor, although I could probably be persuaded to a 10" for the same price range...
Currently, I'm leaning towards the 16G Nook Tablet, mostly because of the RAM advantage it has vs the Kindle Fire.
The fire seems to have a more active dev community, but, once it is rooted & has a working ROM (ICS preferred), isn't that the main thing to be looking for?
However, I am not set on any specific tablet, and am very open to suggestions...
I'm still rocking the original Nook Color. Runs CM7 like a champ, and CM9 builds are showing great progress.
For a thread revival, I figured I would state my final decision & reasons for it, just in case anyone else is looking for similar information...
I ended up going with a Nook Tablet...
I considered the Kindle Fire, but it has 512MB vs the 1G of RAM that the Nook has.
Checking the dev status for the Nook, there is a CM7 running (fairly well, now that I've given it a shot). Once that is 100% (and, in my opinion, it is very nearly there), there really isn't much of a reason to avoid it.
In the day I've had it, I have to say that it has ended up being much better than I was expecting.
check out this tablet
/watch?v=JUhiQZE4_VE&feature=g-u-u&context=G2a75f87FUAAAAAAAHAA
it's a youtube link to a NCIX review on a new tablet seems nice for the price I can't post full link cause I don't have enough posts maybe someone can help me out and post it for me? thanks

Mini-Review The Dark Knight Rises HD video

Hello all!
Here is my mini review of the game.
So the game is great...outstanding graphics etc. Things that need to be fixed...Performance. It is laggy and not only on the Note.
So if it lags on the GS3 then I expect an update to fix it soon...or at least I hope :laugh:
Also, it wouldn't hurt if people actually moved their mouths during cut scenes!
Anyways, I hope you enjoy it.
Dont forget to watch in HD
The sixaxis touch profile is attached to the post as well. Stock DPI.
Regards
ive got this game on my gnote using the miui rom but its extremely laggy even if im oerclocked to 1.6 Ghz
MIUI is based on CM9/AOKP not Samsung ROMs correct?
If so, that is normal. Currently those roms cannot match the speed of Samsung ones specially since the kernal I am using has an overclocked GPU.
I am a CM9 fan from my Captivate days but for the NOTE, it is still not on par sadly.
Running 4.0.4 Classic rom with Notecore v7 EX
This game lags terribly and heats up the phone so much near the camera area, its crazy...
Tested it out on my wives Ipad 2 and it runs like a dream, looks better and also sits in multitask area and opens again no problem, why the hell with a 1.6mhz dual core super machine can we not get it to run anywhere near as good as bloomin god I hate apple, but they always get it right
Is not optimized for android. Check the GS3 having the same lag. If that one with a quad core and faster GPU cannot handle it then you know is the game. I hope Gameloft fixes it soon though as the lag does take away from the fun :\
my CPU is ocd to 1.6 and GPU to 400mhz (notecore v7, cleanote 3.1 rom), still laggy as hell. spent the last hour to tweak the setting using chainfire 3d, trying different plugins. and it seems better, but maybe its just a placebo effect.
def, need an update for performance...
I dont even try with chainfire. For now, Notecore is as good as it gets. The only thing that made me smile was seeing the GS3 with the same issues...a little bit of hope I mean, it still plays fine but I rather wait and play it better...hopefully.
To be honest even my newly updated Lets Golf 3 lags like hell, even though im OC'd to 1.6 with Notecore, I suppose its down to the shear size of the screen the graphics are having to push too.
Not sure these huge 3D games are ever going to run well on our notes
Nova 3 , Mass Effect 3 , Real Racing 2, etc..all run super smooth. Have you tried those?
Also, is screen resolution not size that matters.
What ROM you using?
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Clean Note latest.
Aha, used to use clean note, was fantastic, will return to it
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Sweet. Post back if you can, to see if you got some improvement.
Tried Cleanote 3.1 and Classic also tried stock ICS and GB still all lag pretty bad...
Then I stumbled across this rom
AniDroid-N7000 ICS ROM
This game certainly runs the smoothest, with a few lags but not as bad as the others i have tried, also tested Lets golf and it runs superbly smooth, not sure what he has done with this ROM, but it works for me.
shaolin95 said:
Is not optimized for android. Check the GS3 having the same lag. If that one with a quad core and faster GPU cannot handle it then you know is the game. I hope Gameloft fixes it soon though as the lag does take away from the fun :\
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agreed. what dev's do is just port the game over to android instead of starting from scratch thus giving android devices a bad name if the game does not properly run on android platforms. A quad core SIII should be able to handle this game with no lags or whatsoever. The galaxy note is not far behind the SIII so we should be able to play the game smoothly, a few fps drops is acceptable
THUDUK said:
Tried Cleanote 3.1 and Classic also tried stock ICS and GB still all lag pretty bad...
Then I stumbled across this rom
AniDroid-N7000 ICS ROM
This game certainly runs the smoothest, with a few lags but not as bad as the others i have tried, also tested Lets golf and it runs superbly smooth, not sure what he has done with this ROM, but it works for me.
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Did you try the OCed kernel with Cleannote ?
I have tried that ROM you mentioned and the performance was not close to CleanNote with the OCed kernel in any of the highend games I tried before.
Its weird I tried Cleanote last night with OC Notecore EX ver 7 and this game ran exactly the same as when I tried it with Classic ROM with the same Notecore.
Now this morning i am testing AniDroid-N7000 ICS ROM and my findings are very much better, cant explain why, would love to know. I can actually play this game now and enjoy it, Ok its not quite as smooth and nice as the IPAD version but then thats not our Notes fault I guess, its down to the production of the game on Android, would love to hear others experiences with other roms.
Another point with Dead Trigger I was finding graphics set to high I would occasionally get screen freezes, but with the AniDroid rom it runs smooth, not had a screen freeze.
That is very odd indeed. I just played Dead Trigger for a while yesterday with the very high settings (Tegra 3) without a hiccup. In fact, that will be my next video
Gotta love how everyone's experience can be so different even with the same phones.
What OC settings do you use ?
I just leave Notecore defaults. Sometimes change to pegasusq maybe but everything else I leave as default for the OC kernel.

[Q] Horrible performance with latest CM10.1.0

Why do I get so terrible framerates specifically in UI with the latest CM10.1.0? CM10.1 had the same problem. CM10 worked much smoother for me but i didn't like gaming performance because we don't have good kernels for it. Google Play store has the worst laggs.. it's almost unusable.
My 3 year old phone can handle its CM10.1 much smoother than this dual core tablet.. why is that?
I'm talking about Tab 2 10.1''
Khallerz said:
Why do I get so terrible framerates specifically in UI with the latest CM10.1.0? CM10.1 had the same problem. CM10 worked much smoother for me but i didn't like gaming performance because we don't have good kernels for it. Google Play store has the worst laggs.. it's almost unusable.
My 3 year old phone can handle its CM10.1 much smoother than this dual core tablet.. why is that?
I'm talking about Tab 2 10.1''
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Wipe data/factory reset, wipe system, preload, cache, dalvik cache and reinstall cm 10.1.
I believe its an issue with Samsung and Touch Wiz.
I own a Gnote2 and the GS3, when using anything related to AOSP no matter if overclocking the CPU or GPU I still receive horrible frame rates on any heavy resource games like GTA3 or Vice city. Not even tolerable either and more embarrasing than anything. With the Note2 with a Quad core at 2ghz (overclocked) with ARM Mali-400 MP4 GPU should be blowing everything out of the water....
Only way I see a fully working CM rom is to build onto TWiz that way all the proper lib files and what not are present.
To be honest I really dont know just talking smack trying to figure this thing out.
Next phone possibly a Nexus device, that way I can get the total Google Experience with almost to no issues.
Rant rant ants pants
Thanks,
Sam
Khallerz said:
Why do I get so terrible framerates specifically in UI with the latest CM10.1.0? CM10.1 had the same problem. CM10 worked much smoother for me but i didn't like gaming performance because we don't have good kernels for it. Google Play store has the worst laggs.. it's almost unusable.
My 3 year old phone can handle its CM10.1 much smoother than this dual core tablet.. why is that?
I'm talking about Tab 2 10.1''
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Have you flashed any mods?
If not:
1.Flash stock JB 4.1.2 over ODIN
2.Install TWRP recovery
3.Download the cm10.1 rom and gapps
4.---IF YOU WANT download dholl kernel(its the best kernel for pure cm or cm based roms)-BOOTLOADER isnt locked on the tab,its unlocked completely when you buy it,only carrier locked versions may have locked bootloaders.
5.Install cm10.1 and gapps
5.Reboot and let the device stay untouched after booting for 5 minutes,so everything fits into place.
6.if you still experience little lags,go to developer options,and turn the animations off(they are useless,and consume the speed of the device)
And download Seeder entropy generator[FREE] from the xda forums(the version on market is payed,but they are the same :silly:
And try RAM manager-for games set to Hard gaming,and for every day use select balance.Thats it
7.Enjoy the dual-core!

[A700] Best performance

Hello guys!
Im addicted in playing heroes of order and chaos by gameloft. I got acer a700 for playing. Since i have got avg fps around 25-30, im looking for better performance.
What is best combo kernel+rom+ software for best gaming?
My tablet is running on stock 4.1.2 with custom kernel and im not satisficated with performance.
Guys plz help
Does advanced settings>power mode>high power, help any?
What framerates were you getting with stock?
Doesnt matter. I get on loeest setting in game around 25 fps in stress. Im pissed off since my galaxy note gets same framerate. Help me. Frame didnt changed with new oc kernel
tejp said:
Hello guys!
Im addicted in playing heroes of order and chaos by gameloft. I got acer a700 for playing. Since i have got avg fps around 25-30, im looking for better performance.
What is best combo kernel+rom+ software for best gaming?
My tablet is running on stock 4.1.2 with custom kernel and im not satisficated with performance.
Guys plz help
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How is your internet connection? This can drastically affect the games speed & smoothness. Try standing/sitting right at the router for a bit. See what happens. If that helps see if a wireless extender is in the offing. I got one for $15 shipped on eBay.
How fast is your internet? Cable can be a drag in a crowded neighborhood.
Also, if you have root, try uninstalling the Acer bloatware w/ Root App Delete or similar. Most of the Acer apps are duplicates of the Android ones anyways. Disable the Acer Ring too.
oc kernal for 10.1.2+, ?
Somewhere I read that JB/cm10.1.+ on the a700 has some extra hardware layers,
I think that slows ya down.
I wonder what the fps would of be on ICS
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oc kernal for 10.1.2+, ?
Somewhere I read that JB/cm10.1.+ on the a700 has some extra hardware layers,
I think that slows ya down.
I wonder what the fps would of be on ICS
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What do u mean with this kernel?
Would it be possible that someone will type how to install stock kernel?
Since kernel is only for stock roms im not able to install custom rom with it.
And btw Am I wrong becouse of feeling that this tablet is not so good for gaming?
Also i would like u to ask if the nexus 10 would be better for gaming?
I would be gr8full for fast replay.
Looking forward for answers
How is your internet connection? This can drastically affect the games speed & smoothness. Try standing/sitting right at the router for a bit. See what happens. If that helps see if a wireless extender is in the offing. I got one for $15 shipped on eBay.
How fast is your internet? Cable can be a drag in a crowded neighborhood.
Also, if you have root, try uninstalling the Acer bloatware w/ Root App Delete or similar. Most of the Acer apps are duplicates of the Android ones anyways. Disable the Acer Ring too.
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Nah . It is not the Internet fault. i have tested game on many net connections
Kiteman kernel v4.1 works with cm10.1.2 stable
A700 is not praised for its gpu , and slightly funky screen size.
I got one to only mess with cm10.1
The nexus 10 should be better with extra mem and better gpu.
My antutu gpu score is 1878
jamart3d said:
Kiteman kernel v4.1 works with cm10.1.2 stable
A700 is not praised for its gpu , and slightly funky screen size.
I got one to only mess with cm10.1
The nexus 10 should be better with extra mem and better gpu.
My antutu gpu score is 1878
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Ok so now i just need to install cm in the same way as they type in its guide and everything will work?
Can't say everything will work,
just saying there is a custom kernel available for cm10.1
Need to load it after loading rom.
I'm not sure it will help your fps issue much
What is your antutu gpu score?

[Q] TF300T - F2FS or ext4 when setting up with Kit Kat Kat Kiss

I have had my TF101 for just over three years, and had an opportunity to pick up the TF300T with dock pretty cheap. I'm planning to unlock and install Kit Kat Kat Kiss (Thanks TimDuru). I have read a bit about the F2FS being better than the ext4 setup on the TF300T.
Could some of you who have used both tell me what you think. Is it worth setting the tablet up with F2FS from the get go? Will I see noticeable improvements in operation day to day? I'm not really concerned with where the benchmark scores look, but much more with the day to day feel and usage.
Thanks in advance,
Donald
Dunno about Kat Kiss, but the tablet runs awesome with OmniROM, grimlock kernel and f2fs. The main problem of this tablet is cheap memory modules with horrible i/o speeds, it really bottlenecks the performance of the device and gives you hellish lag, so transition to f2fs will make your tablet noticeably snappier. It won't be ideal and totally butter-smooth anyway because thanks asus, but waaaaaay better than without it. So yes, I really do reccomend you to switch on f2fs as soon as you get the device
Thanks for the response. Actually was thinking of running a few benchmarks starting from stock ICS to stock jellybean both with ext4. After that root and ROM and repeat with f2fs. May be a few days till I get around to it.
Benchmarks are rubbish, they won't show you the real situation with performance. Although you can test i/o speeds on ext and f2fs, they should increase.
Also, I heard that tablet runs great with stock ICS but it's a bit of a pain in the ass to flash it.
"hellish lag"? Not seeing any hellish lag running KatKiss and ext4.
Depends on what you consider to be hellish You can make your tablet work just ok but for a device with a quad-core cpu overclockable up to 1.7Ghz it should work better. I remember tablet with stock 4.2 ROM giving me almost the same interface stutter as my old HTC Wildfire S with CM10. Now go to wikipedia and check out the hardware of the phone :silly:
Anyway, cheap ass memory really is the problem and there is nothing we can do about it. Just check your read-write speeds and compare them to other devices - they are low, disbalanced, and the memory performance can significantly drop over time.
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Depends on what you consider to be hellish You can make your tablet work just ok but for a device with a quad-core cpu overclockable up to 1.7Ghz it should work better. I remember tablet with stock 4.2 ROM giving me almost the same interface stutter as my old HTC Wildfire S with CM10. Now go to wikipedia and check out the hardware of the phone :silly:
Anyway, cheap ass memory really is the problem and there is nothing we can do about it. Just check your read-write speeds and compare them to other devices - they are low, disbalanced, and the memory performance can significantly drop over time.
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I don't think there's any issue with "cheap memory". It's the first time I've heard someone claim this for the TF300. If there is any issue, it's the fact Tegra 3 is old technology, and was never great to begin with. I have a stack of tablets home, and the closest one I have to the TF300 is the 2012 Nexus 7. The hardware is almost identical, but the TF300 easily beats in in Antutu when clocked at the same speed. The DDR3 in the TF300 is also faster than the DDR2 in the higher end TF201.
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I don't think there's any issue with "cheap memory". It's the first time I've heard someone claim this for the TF300. If there is any issue, it's the fact Tegra 3 is old technology, and was never great to begin with. I have a stack of tablets home, and the closest one I have to the TF300 is the 2012 Nexus 7. The hardware is almost identical, but the TF300 easily beats in in Antutu when clocked at the same speed. The DDR3 in the TF300 is also faster than the DDR2 in the higher end TF201.
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It's not about RAM, it's about internal flash memory. Google it, the problem affects transformer prime as well. Some links with more info:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...hmark-11-modern-devices-compared-in-13-tests/
http://jaredleonmorgan.blogspot.com/2013/08/upgrading-emmc-in-transformer-tf300t-to.html
http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...n/32988-tf300t-jb-4-1-1-oficial-slow-i-o.html
I'll post a comparsion between i/o speeds on N5 and tf300 a bit later
Edit: ok, take a look. Both tests were made on 4.4.4 ROMs, ART, deadline scheduler. The results without f2fs on tf300 were a bit worse back that time i was on ext4
http://i.imgur.com/OgomltN.png
http://i.imgur.com/ENQZpBY.png
Am I supposed to be surprised an N5 smokes the T300?
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Am I supposed to be surprised an N5 smokes the T300?
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Dude, this test only measures internal storage speed, not overall performance
No kidding, The N5' s memory bandwidth is many times faster than the TF300. It still has nothing to do with "cheap ass memory".
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No kidding, The N5' s memory bandwidth is many times faster than the TF300. It still has nothing to do with "cheap ass memory".
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So maybe you should check the links I posted before, where it was tested along with other devices with more similar specs? Gosh you are a stubborn guy
I'm stubborn? lol. You're the one going out of your way to prove and an old tablet was built with "cheap ass memory".
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I just try to prove my point of view with an actual information and tests, not just "I think so and I'm right"
anyway it's not the point of this thread and it's up to you to be ok with your tablet
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I just try to prove my point of view with an actual information and tests, not just "I think so and I'm right"
anyway it's not the point of this thread and it's up to you to be ok with your tablet
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What happened to, and I quote:" Benchmarks are rubbish, they won't show you the real situation with performance"? You can't pick and choose only to post them when they support your point of view. My "real situation and performance" is that I don't have the " hellish lag " you claim to have. I accept the tablet for what it is. Old hardware built with the disappointing Tegra 3 architecture.
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What happened to, and I quote:" Benchmarks are rubbish, they won't show you the real situation with performance"? You can't pick and choose only to post them when they support your point of view. My "real situation and performance" is that I don't have the " hellish lag " you claim to have. I accept the tablet for what it is. Old hardware built with the disappointing Tegra 3 architecture.
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Oh man sorry, about benchmarks. I meant stuff like antutu or whatever, when people tend to think that points in such apps directly show you the level of the device performance, although a rom with ~17000 points in antutu could have the same level of performance with ~12000 points rom on the same device. I tried to use the app that directly measures i/o speeds of the memory chips and nothing else and prove that the device really has the problem with it compared to other devices. Sorry for misunderstanding
I just hope that someone will find something useful about our arguing, peace! :silly:
I'm not arguing. I'm having fun,
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Interesting conversation that has come up from my question. I understand that the RAM is older and that some people have complained about the write speed. I suppose I was looking for more about how the ext4 versus F2FS perform and how people feel about it.
That being said, My TF300T was delivered yesterday while I was at work. I put a full charge on the tablet and on the dock. Once that was done I powered everything up. It was shipped with the 4.1 flavor of Jellybean, So I couldn't do any testing of the ICS as benchmarking. In looking up the ICS release specs, I found the Antutu score to be 10,271. I took the 4.2 update and ran a couple benchmarks on it before doing the fun stuff. The 4.2 score on my TF300T showed at 10,417. After that I unlocked, pushed the F2FS TWRP 2.7 to it as the recovery and then installed the KatKiss Kit Kat ROM along with the appropriate F2FS kernel and the Banks Mininal GAPPS. I ran the Antutu again after rebooting and wiping cache and Dalvik. I came up with a score of 18,512. Interestingly I had a friends TF300T at the house which is also running the KatKiss Kit Kat ROM using the ext4 formatting. Hers scored 18,677.
All of that being said, I understand the benchmarks don't tell the whole story. I know that the write speed can be an important comparison. I know that in my case the ext4 did score just slightly higher. In sitting with both tablets in front of me, the one with F2FS just felt more snappy/quicker to respond to commands. Apps when pressed at the same time seem to load a bit faster on the F2FS. I don't think it is a matter of the tablet with ext4 being more bogged down or so on. It was set up roughly a week before my new one arrived. both tablets have roughly the same apps loaded on them.
All in all so far I am very pleased with the move from the TF101 to the TF300T, and especially for the price. I know it's not the newest/latest/greatest tablet out there and I was ok with that when I made the decision to snag it. I like the quadcore processor and the additional on board storage space (my TF101 was the 16gb variety).
As I play with it more, I'll see if there are lags or other annoyances.
BTW, does anyone have the stock TF300T Asus widgets like the weather and email ones? I enjoyed having them on the TF101, though the weather never seemed to work quite right.
Thanks,
Donald
USCJustice said:
BTW, does anyone have the stock TF300T Asus widgets like the weather and email ones? I enjoyed having them on the TF101, though the weather never seemed to work quite right.
Thanks,
Donald
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You can try these, but they haven't been updated in a long time and I have no idea if they'll work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586517
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Thanks for the link. I will give them a try.

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