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Asphalt 5 performance

I just installed this game and I am really disappointed in the performance on my Nexus. I'm running the latest CM rom with 33.1 kernel and even when overclocked to 1133 the game gets unplayable in most spots...
Anyone has any thoughts on that ? I search around and Droid users seem to get better framerates. Is the Nexus GPU so bad after all ???

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I see what you are saying, but I don't find it excruciatingly laggy at all. Its pretty decent, but I do see the performance limits of the Nexus gpu. I also see the need for performance upgrades to the game itself. Other games go much smoother then this one (both are smooth though, just others are much smoother). Raging Thunder 1 and 2 are pretty beast on the nexus.
I don't find it a big problem at all. If anything, devs need to adapt for the nexus market

This is like the best to come to nexus I have a lot of the cars unlocked and get to play my music while I play. =) I dont see much lag on enoms with his oc/uv works great next update should be a bit faster.

Before I used Ivan's JIT this game was pretty choppy with long loading times, even with pershoot's ocuv. Now with Ivan's JIT and ocuv kernel, this game is super smooth with very fast loading times. If it can be optimized to run smoothly without JIT it would be even better.

I am also using CM's latest ROM and am getting pretty bad lag at times, I am thinking about going to Modaco's once the new version comes out. Is performance for this game really that different between ROM's?

Kutthoat5150 said:
I am also using CM's latest ROM and am getting pretty bad lag at times, I am thinking about going to Modaco's once the new version comes out. Is performance for this game really that different between ROM's?
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I don't think it's a ROM issue as much as it is a developer issue.

Using enom's rom and it plays brilliantly on my N1

Gameloft has admitted it needs to be tweaked for the N1. It's not optimized but still looks great. My wife has an iPhone and it looks fantastic on it.

I wish developers would make graphically pretty games for Android that aren't racing games. Seriously, how many do we really need?

denimjunkie82 said:
Before I used Ivan's JIT this game was pretty choppy with long loading times, even with pershoot's ocuv. Now with Ivan's JIT and ocuv kernel, this game is super smooth with very fast loading times. If it can be optimized to run smoothly without JIT it would be even better.
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Well I didn't buy the game to confirm that, but if it really runs faster with JIT it means it's written in java and it's going to run like crap anyway... In that case they don't need to optimise it, they need to rewrite it as a native app.

It is smooth but not extremely, yeah it stil need to tweak, as I notice it actually play extremely smooth in Motorola Droid (Milestone).
It still playable with decent speed just slightly lagging when your car bang, fly over, then you notice the lagging issue.

BlueScreenJunky said:
Well I didn't buy the game to confirm that, but if it really runs faster with JIT it means it's written in java and it's going to run like crap anyway... In that case they don't need to optimise it, they need to rewrite it as a native app.
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All "native apps" are run from within a java shell. Basically, each frame the java code has to call into the native code. The alternative would be essentially writing OpenGL from the ground up in the native code, although even then it'd still need to be called from an active java app and all controls, sound, etc, would need to be handled in java. There's simply no other way to write native apps in Android.

Yes, sorry, that's what I meant by "native app" (that's how kwaak3 works for example). I can be wrong but I think if only input and audio are handled by java, the use of a different virtual machine using JIT can't make such a difference...

BlueScreenJunky said:
Well I didn't buy the game to confirm that, but if it really runs faster with JIT it means it's written in java and it's going to run like crap anyway... In that case they don't need to optimise it, they need to rewrite it as a native app.
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I played the game while running JIT and it made zero difference. It was still laggy at times. No ROM will make a difference as it's not the software here that is the limiting factor but the GPU. The snapdragon has a great CPU but unfortunately a pretty poor GPU compared with other phones say the Droid. The Droid was much smoother and even smoother was the iPhone.
Gameloft needs to optimize this game keeping in mind the hardware specs for each device. Just my two cents.

Using Enomther rom, no lag whatsoever, plus you can overclock over 1 ghz...

Imperial.mack said:
Using Enomther rom, no lag whatsoever, plus you can overclock over 1 ghz...
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Interesting, with Enom's I always get lag. Good to hear that it works well for you.

Many people will probably have different views on what lag is, i get a lag when playing it and so will everyone else, some people may not notice it as much as others and in some cases it may occur less due to there actual set up but the ROM should not make a difference as it was not developed with the nexus one in mind, hence why it doesn't utilize the N1 as well as it utilizes the Moto

lolittle said:
Many people will probably have different views on what lag is, i get a lag when playing it and so will everyone else, some people may not notice it as much as others and in some cases it may occur less due to there actual set up but the ROM should not make a difference as it was not developed with the nexus one in mind, hence why it doesn't utilize the N1 as well as it utilizes the Moto
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Actually this game was developed for the iPhone it lags pretty bad on the Moto Droid as well.

I guess there is no game till now that has used N1's potential fully. Whats stopping game development on Android ??

faraz1992 said:
I guess there is no game till now that has used N1's potential fully. Whats stopping game development on Android ??
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The market. Not the "Android Market", but the market for heavily investing in optimizing a game. Every Android handset is different - different plug-ins, different hardware, different software, etc. If you want to design a great game that performs brilliantly for 2 dollars, you need to sell a LOT of copies of it. Hundreds of thousands or more. Well, only the Droid has even sold that many handsets, and you'll never get 20%-50% penetration into a market with just one application.
Sure, Asphalt will run on nearly anything, BUT, it isn't going to run as well as it does on the iPhone despite the inferior hardware on that device, simply because optimizing it for one platform in Android (except MAYBE the Droid) isn't economically efficient.
The iPhone's biggest advantage (though that is looking to be short-lived now...) is the absolute lack of platform fragmentation. Every single iPhone or iPod Touch can run 99.5% of the available applications, and run them well. Almost all of them are running exactly the same software (obviously, there are some kernel differences and baseband differences, but the userspace kit is almost exactly the same). And there are 80 million of them. A developer just needs to hope for 1 percent penetration to make a killing on even a cheap application.
Until Android can get rid of excessive fragmentation (to at least a reasonable extent), it will suffer in the game world compared to Apple's kit. If Android can get down to just one version on effectively everything, with one set of APIs to address graphics at high speed, it'll be too expensive to make something perform as well - unless you want to pay $30 for an Android game (and I sure won't do that...).

[Q] PSX4DROID V2 on Epic 4g :(

So I am having a horrible time with this one on this device I guess. I have DL'ed multiple Bios for the app and currently am sticking with 7502 and 1001 which seem to work for the most part. All my games are slower then the actual trial version or PSX4DROID Lite. I have tested FF7, FF8, FF9, Legend of Dragoon, Einhander, Chrono Cross, and my fav Xenogears and every one runs smoother and way faster with no slowdown on the Lite version but when using the paid version is slow slow slow. I have upped the cpu cycle, and messed with the fps and moved these both around from low to high and no difference in the games. The sound in the Lite version on all these games is bad but the gameplay is so much smoother and overall better, the sound in the paid version is spot on but the games lag. I am using the Samsung Galaxy S Epic 4G which should play these np since I hear from so many others it works great but not sure if its due to my phone? or is it something I'm doing wrong. I have searched the wide world of GOOGLE and found nothing to help. I have searched these forums as well and just haven't found any help with this. I really really really wana jam on some Xenogears or finally beat FF9 as I made it all the way to the end and never got to beat it back in the day.
This is my first Post and I would appreciate any and all advice you pros out there have for a noob such as me

Any assistance at all would be great

Nobody uses PSX4DROID V2 on an Epic 4g? Or does not have the same issues with slowdown like I do? I am not rooted and starting to wonder if thats the issue? Please Help

no one here really cares about that emuklator... v2 of psx4droid is slower than the old build. i bought both so i compare them each time theres an update for v2 and so far the old build is better in most ways especially when it comes to fps. the old build is just a lot more smoother especially for games such as ff9 and castlevania son.

I've tried running gta 2 on psx4droid but the cars and the character itself were missing and so it gave more fps (around 20) but now with v2 i can see everything (graphics are improved) but now the FPS fell down to approximately 15-12 but it is playable so i don't mind the update
Using a task killer won't harm so that you can close down extra things to free up memory then try running the game, hopefully it won't lag.

I'm on an evo 4g and I can say that the latest psx v2 make everything crawl. What worked for me was the first version of psx4droid v2 that was released, try searching the web and everything should run smooth, it does for me on the snapdragon so should fly with the hummingbird.
I also noticed that if u use app2sd it will affect the emulator since u are trying to run the game off your sd card like on my evo. So give it a try and all should be good.
Also I would stick with 1001 bios since that is what the focus of the port is.
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same issue with me mate, running stock and FF tactics will fluctuate in speeds, mostly on the slower side

I have the same problem on my x, I've given up with it.

I too get FPS problems with this crappy emulator on my DHD. I get about 35FPS in GT2 but it's still too laggy, this is on v2. v1.1 of PSX4DROID runs much much better.
Won't have to wait much longer to play PS1 games on Android
http://mobiputing.com/2011/01/fpsece-playstation-emulator-coming-to-android/

very useful information

N64oid!

This is a great Nintendo 64 emulator now available on the market!
Here's the link:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.androidemu.n64
For me, using an Xperia X10 and Advent Vega (Tegra 2) Banjo-Kazooie runs smoothly.
But Super Mario 64 runs too fast! I asked yongzh (the developer) to add a framelimiter, so hopefully it'll be implemented soon.
I'm amazed at this, especially after looking at how hard development of alternative N64 emulators has been.
E.g. http://forums.ngemu.com/misc-n64-discussion/139653-porting-mupen64plus-android.html

Nice! Says it's incompatible with my device (ZTE Blade) tough, no love for ARMv6?

have to try on my huawei u8800/ideos X5

that looks pretty impressive.
I wonder how it'll run on a Xoom...

I plays really good, I found mariokart to run a bit faster than it should and Killer Instinct was playing really well but the menu screen came out larger than it should. Lucky I remember what the options were.

Wow, Majora's Mask, on my SGS.. Oo And, it is too fast !! Desactivate frameskip helps, and it's more smooth, but sound keeps emulated too fast...
Updates will be great, results are really impressive !!
Screen is stretched, i know that Glide plugin on PC helps to do a true widescreen... Could be great to adapt it !

WOOHOOO!!!!!

90180360 said:
Nice! Says it's incompatible with my device (ZTE Blade) tough, no love for ARMv6?
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Same here on HTC legend...maybe there's a chance it gets compatible with our phones someday...fpse also was ARMv7 only at first...would be awesome.
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Lothaen said:
that looks pretty impressive.
I wonder how it'll run on a Xoom...
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I'll go try it out real quick, so far I've only used it on my HTC Droid Incredible and Droid X, works great on both of those.
Edit: It runs really smooth and looks pretty good, it seems like .n64 files run smoother than .z64 files anyone else noticed this?

Well legend of zelda oot run almost perfectly on my atrix except in the beginning cutscenes of the game the sound glitched a bit but the frame rate was still good. But when I tried to get the sword in the beginning the screen turned black but the scound is current still playing perfectly. I dont really care about the imperfections with this emulator I just can believe one finally got released for android and how well it works.
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Apparently when I went to get the sword in the beginning my screen went black but the sound still worked. Still the creators did an awesome job worth it.
Zelda oot:
I think it was a random glitch cause i am now at the duko tree and no lag so far.
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it happened again. Something is causing the video to go out and turn the screen black otherwise perfect frame rate for zelda oot
Super Mario Kart:
The game menu it self plays perfectly but when im try to keep the accelorator(forward movement) going, steering the kart and fire an object on the touch screen it seems to freak out. It makes it when i press A it only accelerates for a bit then stops then I have to repress a to start again.
1080 SnowBoarding(Love this game):
I tried playing 1080 snowboarding it ran perfectly till i tried playing a level then it just froze.
Goldeneye:
I just finished playing the first level of goldeneye on agent. It ran almost perfectly. There were a few spots of lag but over all goldeneye is not ment for this controller set up. But again there were no major hicups with game. I was able to complete a the first mission.

kuci06 said:
is there a way to contact the developer?
maybe he can answer our questions
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Ive sent him an email (his email address is in the market)
EDIT: He´s answered my mail and said that it would be possible to make it compatible on ARMv6 devices but he doesn´t wanna do it because he has tested it on his htc legend and said that it was very choppy and he doesn´t wanna get bad ratings in the market because of ppl who expect the emu to run at fullspeed on devices with insufficent hardware. So I guess we´re out of luck.
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anyone here also using their hd2 to play n64oid?
mines runs like 2-4 games perfectly but the rest the sound is horrible and it lags sometimes like starfox, mario kart, zelda oot & mm, etc... is it cause i have the first gen of snapdragon cpu??? i have to set the frameskip to 10 and autoframe skip to get good gameplay but only on a few.
never the less this is awesome i cant wait till after some more updates 1.1 is already out =D

What rom should i attach the game to? I have never heard of having to do this.
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kuci06 said:
disable sound, thats what making games laggy
I dont get it, a lot of people are complaining about laggy behavior, yet they are enabling everything... sound takes a lot of processing power
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ha im not a moron i have disabled sound and i know sound makes many games laggy (was using daedalus psp for a long time and realize that the first time i got it) i just wanted to know cause newer up to date phones like the samsung vibrant, galaxy s, etc run it better with less hic up i just wanted to know if anyone else realized this and wanted someone to clarify it
p.s. i wasnt complaining i was just curious curiousity and complaining are completely different please dont just start accusing

Banjo-Kazooie has some graphical glitches though it has always been a problematic game to emulate if memory serves me right. Also FPS could be better in many places despite the intense frameskip going on (HTC Vision at 1.5 GHz)

Yep, Banjo Kazpoie has some issues with graphics in emulation. But its still fully playable on my Fascinate, almost near full speed.
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ms_green said:
He´s answered my mail and said that it would be possible to make it compatible on ARMv6 devices but he doesn´t wanna do it because he has tested it on his htc legend and said that it was very choppy and he doesn´t wanna get bad ratings in the market because of ppl who expect the emu to run at fullspeed on devices with insufficent hardware. So I guess we´re out of luck.
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Thanks a lot for asking him! Let's hope he'll manage to make the emulator more efficient. Seeing how well FPse runs it's a shame...

Anyone using the wii classic pro controller with this? I can't seem to find key mappings that make sense for Goldeneye... Any suggestions?

Botero said:
Anyone using the wii classic pro controller with this? I can't seem to find key mappings that make sense for Goldeneye... Any suggestions?
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Those were the original controls:
You use the main analog stick to move Bond around, and you use the L button and the main analog stick combined to aim your weapon and lock the camera on a certain position. B is to reload, A to switch weapon, Left and Right C to Strafe, Up and Down C to look up or down, Z to use weapon, R is the same as L.
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Maybe B to ZL, A to ZR, C buttons to a,b,x,y, Z to R?
Or C buttons to the right analog stick, a to b, b to y? (Maybe Z to a, if it doesn't work well on R?)

very choppy on Nexus One playing Zelda oot.anyone know a good set up to run smoother than the pre setup?

How do I make GTA3 run smooth?

I am on stock 2.3.6. I installed 1.2 apk and it really lags alot.
Xperia play unrooted and stock seems to play it quite smoothly, nexus S is more powerful so surely it should run smooth??

I have the same problem and I also like to know how to fix it.. The game runs reaply badly for my usual gaming habits. I use Matrix kernel @ 1.46GHz and the latest CM9 nightly. I get really high bench scores for 4.0.3 and overall performance kicks the ass of my friends' stock Galaxy SII I-9100.
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Delete the audio files.

Firstly I would suggest posting this in the correct section for more responses - q&a. Second, perhaps check out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103284
Tegra 2 Games on the Nexus S
I've never tried it because I have yet to experience the problems you describe but perhaps it's worth a try.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes

Harbb said:
Delete the audio files.
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Whats the point then of playing?
Bruce lee roy said:
Firstly I would suggest posting this in the correct section for more responses - q&a. Second, perhaps check out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103284
Tegra 2 Games on the Nexus S
I've never tried it because I have yet to experience the problems you describe but perhaps it's worth a try.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes
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I have generally found the general section to be most responsive. That method you are saying is via root and I am not rooted.

I always played it on mute anyway, and after deleting the audio files i got a massive jump in performance (audio was being processed even with volume at 0). Personal preference, but a noticeable fps jump.

So I guess the game isnt optimized for powerVR?? It seems to run fine on adreno 205, this is disappointing.
I mainly want to play it for the nostalgic bit and the audio is really important part of it.

The nostalgia value of my GTA3 experience was with a sound bug that forced the rain to play constantly. Not really the highlight of the game for me
The sound on the Nexus S seems kind of delayed and i've noticed many games that slow down a little as sounds are meant to kick in. I don't know exactly why, maybe mediaserver isn't given good enough priority. This seems to be the same issue that plagued my GTA3 adventures though.

Gambler_3 said:
Whats the point then of playing?
I have generally found the general section to be most responsive. That method you are saying is via root and I am not rooted.
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perhaps being rooted is the reason I have yet to experience the problems you describe. I play gta and games which are more graphic intensive than gta with np.
I don't think the processor is to blame for your inability to play the game. The ns processors have proven to be more than capable of handling most processes. Rather, the stock software does not allow the hardware to reach its full potential. In other words, the nexus s is a peacock you; you've got to let it fly.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes

Bruce lee roy said:
perhaps being rooted is the reason I have yet to experience the problems you describe. I play gta and games which are more graphic intensive than gta with np.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes
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I havent experienced lag in any other game and I have played a few. Asphalt 6 runs smooth as well.
And btw my audio runs perfect and never stutters.
I saw youtube video of overclocked nexus S running GTA3 and even that had performance issues.

just install 1.3, i used to have major lag on 1.2 on my nexus s but on 1.3 i have no lag. Huge improvement!

Bruce lee roy said:
perhaps being rooted is the reason I have yet to experience the problems you describe. I play gta and games which are more graphic intensive than gta with np.
I don't think the processor is to blame for your inability to play the game. The ns processors have proven to be more than capable of handling most processes. Rather, the stock software does not allow the hardware to reach its full potential. In other words, the nexus s is a peacock you; you've got to let it fly.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes
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Peacocks don't fly

renaming the "audio" folder into "audio1" made the game much much smoother. i don't mind the missing sound. But isn't there a way to make it run even better? i still experience some massive lag problems...

Huge gain in performance by deleting the Audio folder. Thanks for the tip, now I can enjoy this game.
Controls take some getting to.
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guru2468 said:
I have the same problem and I also like to know how to fix it.. The game runs reaply badly for my usual gaming habits. I use Matrix kernel @ 1.46GHz and the latest CM9 nightly. I get really high bench scores for 4.0.3 and overall performance kicks the ass of my friends' stock Galaxy SII I-9100.
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If you honestly think that your quadrant score makes your phone with a single A8 cortex core faster than two A9 cores there is something seriously wrong with you. Software tweaks can make up to 1% difference in actual performance.
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migueldbr said:
just install 1.3, i used to have major lag on 1.2 on my nexus s but on 1.3 i have no lag. Huge improvement!
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Just did that and you got me excited as there was no lag in the opening cutscene. But it was back as soon as I started driving.
The sad part is I thought I wouldnt care about the game as the controls would be really bad but they arent that bad, it's very much playable but the performance is the issue.

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Xperia play unrooted and stock seems to play it quite smoothly, nexus S is more powerful so surely it should run smooth??
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Don't forget that the xperia play has a super fast graphics chip. That's why most of the time it will outdo may other newer phones with gaming in mind

Give this a try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22884431#post22884431
For the Galaxy S, but works on my nexus s. (5 FPS improvement)

jaju123 said:
If you honestly think that your quadrant score makes your phone with a single A8 cortex core faster than two A9 cores there is something seriously wrong with you. Software tweaks can make up to 1% difference in actual performance.
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I didn't say that the hardware is faster, I just sayed that the real world performance of my Nexus us better in this particular case. Also I sayed that my scores are high, but I didn't really relate that to making a significant difference...
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greenie25 said:
Don't forget that the xperia play has a super fast graphics chip. That's why most of the time it will outdo may other newer phones with gaming in mind
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Isn't our SGX540 faster? I would say the game is just well optimized for the Xperia Play. Our GPU is pretty ok, it's actually still built in to the Galaxy Nexus (although I think it is higher clocked in this newer phone
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Dungeon Hunter 4

OMG is this game laggy on this tablet. Is anyone else playing this game with no lag? If so what did you do. My Samsung S3 plays this game with zero lag. But I keep changing Roms and I have no idea how to save this game. Any help would be great... Thanks
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Runs smooth for me on balanced mode besides the characters walking animation not being smooth. Every time he takes two steps I feel a slight stop and go in the game.
Cromi 3.4.7 (jb4.1.1) with hunds kernel v2.2

Thx for the reply. Looks like I might need to root my tablet. Since the 4. 2 update this tablet is very laggy.
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05Warrior said:
OMG is this game laggy on this tablet. Is anyone else playing this game with no lag? If so what did you do. My Samsung S3 plays this game with zero lag. But I keep changing Roms and I have no idea how to save this game. Any help would be great... Thanks
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The tf700 is too weak for this game (and others...).

codeinish said:
The tf700 is too weak for this game (and others...).
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I don't think the tablet being too weak for games would be correct. This tablet has the cpu/gpu to run them. There is something else that is keeping games from having full compatibility or smoothness with this tablet. You can search and find theories from game developers being too lazy to properly code or there being an underlining issue with Tegra3 chips that Nvidia never addressed but was supposedly working on a patch for. More likely it's the high resolution of the screen which we all ready know causes a performance hit. I don't see that as being week since it is giving us a beautiful picture when using the tablet for various tasks. For those running a custom rom, is there the option to lower the resolution of the screen for extra performance?
To the original poster, not make it sound like you don't know what your tablet is doing, but are you running anything in the background or accidentally have battery saver set? I will try downloading this game and see what I get performance wise. I'm running a fresh stock install of 4.1 firmware.
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No problems for me running the game on stock firmware 4.1. Ran it in both performance and balanced mode.

Also im on cromi-x 4.5 with hunds 3.0.6 kernel today, running close to smooth with hunds kernel app that sets the cpu/gpu for games. Sadly i cant run the game on medium setting because the app wont save the settings after game relaunches
Edit: got it to change

fsured said:
I don't think the tablet being too weak for games would be correct. This tablet has the cpu/gpu to run them. There is something else that is keeping games from having full compatibility or smoothness with this tablet. You can search and find theories from game developers being too lazy to properly code or there being an underlining issue with Tegra3 chips that Nvidia never addressed but was supposedly working on a patch for. More likely it's the high resolution of the screen which we all ready know causes a performance hit. I don't see that as being week since it is giving us a beautiful picture when using the tablet for various tasks. For those running a custom rom, is there the option to lower the resolution of the screen for extra performance?
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I stated that the tf700 is too weak for this game.
I agree that the tf700 has got the potential to be a game perfomer, but unfortunately it ain't.
You elaborated the reasons for this and I think you're right.
Yet, we are not living in theories but in reality where game developers skip our device
(I tried to address some of them asking for a fix, but to no avail).
Here is an example of a correspondence I had with Get Set games inc.:
"Dear Dev,
My almost 2 year old daughter is mad about Mega Run (which she keep calling "Monkey Circles").
I am an old fan of Mega Run and Mega Jump too.
The issue is that the game's graphics are not optimised for the 10 inch screen of the Asus Infinity (TF700).
Therefore the graphics are a bit blurry.
I would appreciate it if you could help me find a solution for what I have described,
or maybe issue a version that will be optimised for our tf700's screen.
Hope my request will be considered since as I have written, we love your application.
Thanks with advance and keep up the good work.
REPLY:
Thanks for getting in contact with us and for the feedback. It is great to hear that you and your daughter have been enjoying Mega Run. We have just release Mega Run on Android, and with that release we chose to only have one set of graphics at a medium/high resolution. The reason we chose to do this is that most Android devices fit this resolution very well. In the future, we hope to have higher resolution graphics for tablets such as the Asus Infinity.
Sorry for the inconvenience,
Mike"
IMHO - this is not a standard machine... I should have learned this sooner (before I purchased it).
Anyways, the TF700 has it's strong areas: great device for playing all kinds of media and even some games.
The mSD slot is awesome and all in all I enjoy it.

It runs fairly well, actually. Frankly, it runs smoother than Skyrim ever did on my PC. (That game used to literally freeze every 2 steps to re-render the scene. Crappy coding from Bethesda... As per bloody usual.)
codeinish said:
Here is an example of a correspondence I had with Get Set games inc.:
"Dear Dev,
My almost 2 year old daughter is mad about Mega Run (which she keep calling "Monkey Circles").
I am an old fan of Mega Run and Mega Jump too.
The issue is that the game's graphics are not optimised for the 10 inch screen of the Asus Infinity (TF700).
Therefore the graphics are a bit blurry.
I would appreciate it if you could help me find a solution for what I have described,
or maybe issue a version that will be optimised for our tf700's screen.
Hope my request will be considered since as I have written, we love your application.
Thanks with advance and keep up the good work.
REPLY:
Thanks for getting in contact with us and for the feedback. It is great to hear that you and your daughter have been enjoying Mega Run. We have just release Mega Run on Android, and with that release we chose to only have one set of graphics at a medium/high resolution. The reason we chose to do this is that most Android devices fit this resolution very well. In the future, we hope to have higher resolution graphics for tablets such as the Asus Infinity.
Sorry for the inconvenience,
Mike"
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You could've known the game would be blurry. Games are made with the 'hyped' devices in mind: The Galaxy Tab and the Galaxy S3. Which both run 1280x800, as opposed to 'our' 1920x1200.. (Quite a significant size increase.)
Anything with a higher resolution is a HD version, and specifically has HD listed behind it. ('Angry Birds HD'.)
Give it +-six months. Then, the SGS4 and the Note 3 will be the top devices alongside the HTC One and the potential new Nexus. And developers will have no other choice but to finally make games and apps in HD.

ShadowLea said:
It runs fairly well, actually. Frankly, it runs smoother than Skyrim ever did on my PC. (That game used to literally freeze every 2 steps to re-render the scene. Crappy coding from Bethesda... As per bloody usual.)
You could've known the game would be blurry. Games are made with the 'hyped' devices in mind: The Galaxy Tab and the Galaxy S3. Which both run 1280x800, as opposed to 'our' 1920x1200.. (Quite a significant size increase.)
Anything with a higher resolution is a HD version, and specifically has HD listed behind it. ('Angry Birds HD'.)
Give it +-six months. Then, the SGS4 and the Note 3 will be the top devices alongside the HTC One and the potential new Nexus. And developers will have no other choice but to finally make games and apps in HD.
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I agree with you that eventually 1920x1080 will be a common resolution for Android devices, but I still believe Tegra 3 is too weak to run those games at full HD resolution (all Full HD devices I know have either a Snapdragon S4 Pro or Snapdragon 600 to power that many pixels). I have seen quite a few games that lag miserably on my tf700, even if it is optimized for Tegra. Example, Beach Buggy Blitz (running at max setting of this game is a big no-no on my tf700).
As for Skyrim, I really have no complaint about frame drop and stuttering, it runs quite smoothly on my laptop. Nevertheless, given the diversity of PC hardware, it could just be that I was lucky to have fully compatible hardware.

I don't agree : Dungeon Hunter 4 is very laggy on my tab and i am not playing that game anymore due to that issue. But i have played many hours to The Bard's Tale and it worked nearly perfectly (it would lag only when a lot of characters and huge effects, that means about 10 seconds every 4 hours) and bard's tale is imo more beautiful than dh4 and still it was developed in 2012 when hd screens were very rare. So imo the dh4 lag issue comes from poor design and programming.
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huy_lonewolf said:
I agree with you that eventually 1920x1080 will be a common resolution for Android devices, but I still believe Tegra 3 is too weak to run those games at full HD resolution (all Full HD devices I know have either a Snapdragon S4 Pro or Snapdragon 600 to power that many pixels). I have seen quite a few games that lag miserably on my tf700, even if it is optimized for Tegra. Example, Beach Buggy Blitz (running at max setting of this game is a big no-no on my tf700).
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It's primarily the I/O issue, not the Tegra 3.
The problem is that games are optimized for snapdragons because that's what the hyped, common-cattle owned devices (SGS3/4 & GT2) run.
SoulCraft THD: Perfectly.
SHADOWGUN THD: Perfectly.
Samurai II: Vengeance THD: Perfectly.
Puddle THD: Perfectly.
Zombie Driver THD: Perfectly.
Renaissance Blood THD: Runs well.
The Bard's Tale: Fine.
N.O.V.A. 3: Some issue with green images in main menu/intro, Game itself runs fine.
So no, it's not the Tegra 3. It's lazy developers and crap engines.
As for Skyrim, I really have no complaint about frame drop and stuttering, it runs quite smoothly on my laptop. Nevertheless, given the diversity of PC hardware, it could just be that I was lucky to have fully compatible hardware.
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It's since been fixed in the patches. The issue occured during the first 3 updates (including vanilla base.). At one point I had backwards flying dragons that spun around breathing fire in mid air and stopped every few seconds as the game froze and unfroze :laugh: The engine Skyrim runs on is 12 years old, and instead of using a clean version they retasked the Fallout one with all the coding still cluttering it.

The main fault in this tablet is the i/o. Everything else is perfectly big enough to run the screen. With such crappy i/o, the tablet cannot cache applications at a rate needed, especially for files made for Full HD screens. This can be solved with a B2R tpye script or Data2SD. With Data2SD, even on a pretty cheap card, the tablet runs much much smoother. This is why the browser on stock runs so terribly. The internal i/o cant cache it fast enough. So, the Tega 3 is more then enough of power, but the problem is the i/o, which can only even start to be tweaked by unlocking/rooting, but even then there is no fix.
Tylor
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Tylorw1 said:
The main fault in this tablet is the i/o. Everything else is perfectly big enough to run the screen. With such crappy i/o, the tablet cannot cache applications at a rate needed, especially for files made for Full HD screens.
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GPU performance has nothing to do with I/O.
I/O is slow for random writes, yes - but games usually don't write a lot to storage. The GPU is slow because it is simply not very powerful. See here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6036/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-tf700t-review/4
With good programming, it can drive the full HD screen with acceptable framerate (see Epic Citadel), but apparently not every engine is so well optimized.

codeinish said:
The tf700 is too weak for this game (and others...).
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I notice the Nook HD+ that also has a 1080p display seems to play games smoother than the 700. Performance is about in between the 700 and 300, with the 300 being better overall.
The 4470 gpu is more robust for higher def displays and has dual channel memory, but a dual core. I would have expected the net result to be a wash, but does seem the dual channel memory might be the difference.
For game emulators though that are cpu heavy like MAMEreloaded, the Nook is a little faster. Gets hot in the bottom right corner though.

horrible
Yeah i tried this game. Changed graphics settings in game to lowest and had performance mode on and it still lagged like crazy. Not really my kind of game to begin with so it didn't upset me too badly, but i would have expected more from such a high end tablet.

I have uninstalled the game today : too laggy and i still believe that its code is bad (bard's tale is so much smoother on my same tab)
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I know this is a bit of an old thread, I just not stumbled upon it. I've been using cromi-x for quite some time, and on earlier versions I didn't have much issue until I got into higher levels where more monsters generated, then it would lag briefly and go back to normal. As of lately I haven't even been able to play the game. I've played a few other games that seem to have similar features and get zero lag. Though I'm not a coder or developer, I feel that this is a issue with the game itself combined with i/o limitations of our tablet. SDBags has done some amazing work on his rom. I've tried all sorts of kernel and tweak combinations, none of which seem to correct the issue. To make the issue worse I was level 42 and lost my entire game and $40 worth of purchases that gameloft has yet to refund me. That, of course doesn't have anything to do with the laggy issue. I thought I would bump the thread to see if anyone else has come up with anything.